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Watch: Muslims show they're "Happy" to counter negative media portrayals
Watch: Muslims show they're "Happy" to counter negative media portrayals
A Muslim blog's joyful "Happy" video is going viral.
If you've not heard Pharrell's "Happy", then congratulations on your impressive isolation from popular culture. It's a massive song, arguably the song of summer 2013 and still popular enough to be a challenger for the song of summer 2014. Its video - with a bunch of happy people dancing and clapping in different locations around LA - is really easy to copy, so there are loads of tributes and parodies on YouTube (like this one, or this one, or this one).
The big viral hit on Twitter right now is the version done by Muslim blog The Honesty Policy, which features all kinds of Muslims jumping and dancing and clapping and generally being (you guessed it) happy. It's managed more than a quarter of a million hits in less than two days, and does a great job of showing that Muslims - contrary to how they're commonly portrayed in the media - are actually human, and quite enjoy enjoying themelsves. Who'd have thunk it?
In the words of the Honesty Policy:
To any youngster aspiring to be someone, this proves that our community is ready to mobilise together under a simple good intention. Despite our team remaining anonymous, which was REALLY shady, they put their trust in an intention. We have scholars, activists, celebrities, students, professionals, bloggers and everyday’ers all in one video. It is amazing how times have changed, and we really hope this project inspires others to pick up the mantle and showcase our community for the smiling wondrous people they are. Don’t be afraid to think outside the box. Of course a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into this, but watching the faces of those who watch it brighten up makes it all worth it.
We Brits have a bad rep for being a bit stiff, but this video proves otherwise. We are HAPPY. We are eclectic. We are cosmopolitan. Diverse. Creative. Fun. Outgoing. And everything you can think of.
This video is to show the world despite the negative press, stereotypes and discrimination we are burdened with we should respond with smiles and joy, not anger.
Depressingly, and unsurprisingly, there are a bunch of killjoys who think it's all a bit much, and that "proper" Muslims shouldn't be so silly and unserious. They can be found on Twitter, but we won't be linking to them here. We will, however, point out that Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad - the dean of the Cambridge Muslim College and an extremely influential academic of Islam (he's the red-headed guy at 0:41) - hasn't, contrary to the Shaam Post's "exclusive", said that he regrets appearing in it. He's issued a statement through The Honesty Policy saying: "I'm delighted to see the outcome of the Happy British Muslims video, which has unlocked a remarkable tide of goodwill around the world, and significantly tilted the image of Muslims among many sceptics. Islamophobes must be grinding their teeth to see Muslims of different races and age-groups united by happiness. No-one will produce a Sharia argument against jumping for joy!"
We haven't heard from Pharrell about what he thinks, but he cried with joy on Oprah after watching some fan-made videos, so it's probably a good guess that he'd approve.
http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2014/04/watch-Muslims-show-theyre-happy-counter-negative-media-portrayals
A Muslim blog's joyful "Happy" video is going viral.
If you've not heard Pharrell's "Happy", then congratulations on your impressive isolation from popular culture. It's a massive song, arguably the song of summer 2013 and still popular enough to be a challenger for the song of summer 2014. Its video - with a bunch of happy people dancing and clapping in different locations around LA - is really easy to copy, so there are loads of tributes and parodies on YouTube (like this one, or this one, or this one).
The big viral hit on Twitter right now is the version done by Muslim blog The Honesty Policy, which features all kinds of Muslims jumping and dancing and clapping and generally being (you guessed it) happy. It's managed more than a quarter of a million hits in less than two days, and does a great job of showing that Muslims - contrary to how they're commonly portrayed in the media - are actually human, and quite enjoy enjoying themelsves. Who'd have thunk it?
In the words of the Honesty Policy:
To any youngster aspiring to be someone, this proves that our community is ready to mobilise together under a simple good intention. Despite our team remaining anonymous, which was REALLY shady, they put their trust in an intention. We have scholars, activists, celebrities, students, professionals, bloggers and everyday’ers all in one video. It is amazing how times have changed, and we really hope this project inspires others to pick up the mantle and showcase our community for the smiling wondrous people they are. Don’t be afraid to think outside the box. Of course a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into this, but watching the faces of those who watch it brighten up makes it all worth it.
We Brits have a bad rep for being a bit stiff, but this video proves otherwise. We are HAPPY. We are eclectic. We are cosmopolitan. Diverse. Creative. Fun. Outgoing. And everything you can think of.
This video is to show the world despite the negative press, stereotypes and discrimination we are burdened with we should respond with smiles and joy, not anger.
Depressingly, and unsurprisingly, there are a bunch of killjoys who think it's all a bit much, and that "proper" Muslims shouldn't be so silly and unserious. They can be found on Twitter, but we won't be linking to them here. We will, however, point out that Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad - the dean of the Cambridge Muslim College and an extremely influential academic of Islam (he's the red-headed guy at 0:41) - hasn't, contrary to the Shaam Post's "exclusive", said that he regrets appearing in it. He's issued a statement through The Honesty Policy saying: "I'm delighted to see the outcome of the Happy British Muslims video, which has unlocked a remarkable tide of goodwill around the world, and significantly tilted the image of Muslims among many sceptics. Islamophobes must be grinding their teeth to see Muslims of different races and age-groups united by happiness. No-one will produce a Sharia argument against jumping for joy!"
We haven't heard from Pharrell about what he thinks, but he cried with joy on Oprah after watching some fan-made videos, so it's probably a good guess that he'd approve.
http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2014/04/watch-Muslims-show-theyre-happy-counter-negative-media-portrayals
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I do believe that strictly speaking dancing and music is not allowed?
so these are not "proper" Muslims??
so these are not "proper" Muslims??
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Well, I've never known a Muslim yet who didn't sing and dance. The ones who think it is wrong are fundamentalists in the tiniest minority. Living with a Muslim family in Tunisia, they did nothing but sing and dance. The largest proportion of Muslims are in Indonesia and they are famous for their dances.
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In fact, out in Tunisia I got taught some arabic dancing, fun it was.
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Be careful in Tunisia Sassy - it's a Muslim country:
Local laws and customs
Local laws reflect the fact that Tunisia is an Islamic country. Respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they don’t offend, especially during the holy month of Ramadan or if you intend to visit religious areas.
In the coastal holiday resorts the dress code is very much like any European city or tourist area, although topless sunbathing on beaches may cause offence. If you’re visiting the main cities, religious sites or more remote areas of Tunisia, you should dress more modestly and avoid any articles of clothing which may cause offence.
Homosexuality is a criminal offence in Tunisia and sexual relations outside marriage are also punishable by law.
Avoid taking any photographs near sensitive political or military sites.
The FCO advise against all travel to the Chaambi Mountain National Park area.
Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since the events of the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in January 2011. The first democratic elections were held in 2011.
There have been some reports of fringe groups seeking to impose their interpretation of Islamic dress and behaviour on others through violence against individuals. While the primary target of these groups has been Tunisian nationals and businesses serving and selling alcohol outside the main tourist areas, this behaviour could affect foreigners.
Local laws and customs
Local laws reflect the fact that Tunisia is an Islamic country. Respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they don’t offend, especially during the holy month of Ramadan or if you intend to visit religious areas.
In the coastal holiday resorts the dress code is very much like any European city or tourist area, although topless sunbathing on beaches may cause offence. If you’re visiting the main cities, religious sites or more remote areas of Tunisia, you should dress more modestly and avoid any articles of clothing which may cause offence.
Homosexuality is a criminal offence in Tunisia and sexual relations outside marriage are also punishable by law.
Avoid taking any photographs near sensitive political or military sites.
The FCO advise against all travel to the Chaambi Mountain National Park area.
Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since the events of the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in January 2011. The first democratic elections were held in 2011.
There have been some reports of fringe groups seeking to impose their interpretation of Islamic dress and behaviour on others through violence against individuals. While the primary target of these groups has been Tunisian nationals and businesses serving and selling alcohol outside the main tourist areas, this behaviour could affect foreigners.
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Travelled all over Tunisia by myself, not in the tourist areas, lived with the family I knew in Kairouan and Lotfi the son of the family then travelled with me to Tunis. Was never treated with anything but respect and had a fantastic time. If my daughter hadn't have been so ill, would have carried on living out there.
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And unfortunately the wonderful video showing young English people dancing has come under attack from the older Muslims - even the BBC Asian Network gave them a voice (god knows why) - well, they would, wouldn't they?
The group admits it expected "a backlash" from some quarters, but the feel-good project seems to have struck a chord with the majority of the 300,000 viewers so far on YouTube, with Tweets and Facebook messages of support from celebrities, MPs and the wider public.
That hasn't stopped a vocal minority attacking the project as haram (an Arabic term meaning sinful), though, and yesterday the BBC Asian Network held a vigorous debate asking whether the video was halal (an action that is permissible to engage in).
One high-profile contributor to the video is Timothy Winter (he's the chap pictured above holding an "I'm happy" sign), who in the Muslim community is more commonly known as Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad. He's one of country's foremost Muslim theologians and lectures at Cambridge University.
Within days of the video first appearing online, a post appeared on Muslim news website Shaam Post claiming that the academic had distanced himself from the video and labelled it improper.
I hope the participants remain safe.
The group admits it expected "a backlash" from some quarters, but the feel-good project seems to have struck a chord with the majority of the 300,000 viewers so far on YouTube, with Tweets and Facebook messages of support from celebrities, MPs and the wider public.
That hasn't stopped a vocal minority attacking the project as haram (an Arabic term meaning sinful), though, and yesterday the BBC Asian Network held a vigorous debate asking whether the video was halal (an action that is permissible to engage in).
One high-profile contributor to the video is Timothy Winter (he's the chap pictured above holding an "I'm happy" sign), who in the Muslim community is more commonly known as Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad. He's one of country's foremost Muslim theologians and lectures at Cambridge University.
Within days of the video first appearing online, a post appeared on Muslim news website Shaam Post claiming that the academic had distanced himself from the video and labelled it improper.
I hope the participants remain safe.
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Sassy wrote:Travelled all over Tunisia by myself, not in the tourist areas, lived with the family I knew in Kairouan and Lotfi the son of the family then travelled with me to Tunis. Was never treated with anything but respect and had a fantastic time. If my daughter hadn't have been so ill, would have carried on living out there.
Yes, you keep on telling us that you've travelled to all these Muslim places, have been invited in to their mosques etc...
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BigAndy9 wrote:Be careful in Tunisia Sassy - it's a Muslim country:
Local laws and customs
Local laws reflect the fact that Tunisia is an Islamic country. Respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they don’t offend, especially during the holy month of Ramadan or if you intend to visit religious areas.
In the coastal holiday resorts the dress code is very much like any European city or tourist area, although topless sunbathing on beaches may cause offence. If you’re visiting the main cities, religious sites or more remote areas of Tunisia, you should dress more modestly and avoid any articles of clothing which may cause offence.
Homosexuality is a criminal offence in Tunisia and sexual relations outside marriage are also punishable by law.
Avoid taking any photographs near sensitive political or military sites.
The FCO advise against all travel to the Chaambi Mountain National Park area.
Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since the events of the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in January 2011. The first democratic elections were held in 2011.
There have been some reports of fringe groups seeking to impose their interpretation of Islamic dress and behaviour on others through violence against individuals. While the primary target of these groups has been Tunisian nationals and businesses serving and selling alcohol outside the main tourist areas, this behaviour could affect foreigners.
Well....The fat RW fuck Dean (admin of flop) he has an anti Muslim site, and he and his cohorts, the impotent RW fuck Duuuurham (fires blanks) and the other, small prick RW imbecile Hughjardon (he only ever used that tag because he can't get a huge hardon) ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::
....Well that site is still up and running!
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Sassy, I think you should delete the thread - you could be putting the participants lives at risk by posting it.
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BigAndy9 wrote:Sassy wrote:Travelled all over Tunisia by myself, not in the tourist areas, lived with the family I knew in Kairouan and Lotfi the son of the family then travelled with me to Tunis. Was never treated with anything but respect and had a fantastic time. If my daughter hadn't have been so ill, would have carried on living out there.
Yes, you keep on telling us that you've travelled to all these Muslim places, have been invited in to their mosques etc...
Well there you go, got a pic of me, Lotfi and his Mum who I still correspond with.
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Catman wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:Be careful in Tunisia Sassy - it's a Muslim country:
Local laws and customs
Local laws reflect the fact that Tunisia is an Islamic country. Respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they don’t offend, especially during the holy month of Ramadan or if you intend to visit religious areas.
In the coastal holiday resorts the dress code is very much like any European city or tourist area, although topless sunbathing on beaches may cause offence. If you’re visiting the main cities, religious sites or more remote areas of Tunisia, you should dress more modestly and avoid any articles of clothing which may cause offence.
Homosexuality is a criminal offence in Tunisia and sexual relations outside marriage are also punishable by law.
Avoid taking any photographs near sensitive political or military sites.
The FCO advise against all travel to the Chaambi Mountain National Park area.
Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since the events of the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in January 2011. The first democratic elections were held in 2011.
There have been some reports of fringe groups seeking to impose their interpretation of Islamic dress and behaviour on others through violence against individuals. While the primary target of these groups has been Tunisian nationals and businesses serving and selling alcohol outside the main tourist areas, this behaviour could affect foreigners.
Well....The fat RW fuck Dean (admin of flop) he has an anti Muslim site, and he and his cohorts, the impotent RW fuck Duuuurham (fires blanks) and the other, small prick RW imbecile Hughjardon (he only ever used that tag because he can't get a huge hardon) ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::
....Well that site is still up and running!
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
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Sassy wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:
Yes, you keep on telling us that you've travelled to all these Muslim places, have been invited in to their mosques etc...
Well there you go, got a pic of me, Lotfi and his Mum who I still correspond with.
I am currently residing in the Muslim enclave of West Midlands - I know that spot very well Sassy.
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BigAndy9 wrote:Catman wrote:
Well....The fat RW fuck Dean (admin of flop) he has an anti Muslim site, and he and his cohorts, the impotent RW fuck Duuuurham (fires blanks) and the other, small prick RW imbecile Hughjardon (he only ever used that tag because he can't get a huge hardon) ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::
....Well that site is still up and running!
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
I think that you'll find that the fat fuck Dean (mail order bride in tow) is running a website, and isn't expressing his full views on things, bit like Victorisafuckingcuntagain, he never showed his full colours until SF went tits up!
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Sassy, a few thoughts on the thread - it's a little sad that to prove a point they got a few young Muslims to smile and dance, and it hasn't exactly been well received.
Second - I've been looking at a whole host of sites after asking the question - "is dancing and singing ok in Islam" - it doesn't look good to be honest.
One example:
"Music is audio pornography today, that's what it is. Its explicit, it's shameless, it's vulgar, it takes your sense of humanity away from you." {Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan..} Music is haraam in Islaam,in all of it's shapes and forms. This was the aqeedah of the Sahabas and of the people following Sahabas. Daff is the only instrument allowed, but it has some limitations. It should be simple daff, not those with metallic plates attached to them. Daff is only to be used under certain conditions, and it is allowed only for women, not for men. It is allowed during Eid days, wedding days and during wars. In very simple manner, without exaggeration and damaging the hudoods. Allaah says in Chapter Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning): “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6] The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (Radi'Allaahu Anhu) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari,21/40). Not that Ibn Abbas Radi'Allaahu Anhu was a sahaabi, a student of Prophet {Sallallaahu-Alaiyhi-WaSallam}. He understood what was right. Allaah {S.w.t} says (interpretation of the meaning): “[Allaah {S.w.t} said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with yourvoice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64] It was narrated that Mujaahid (May Allaah have mercy on him) said: “And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice” – his voice [the voice of Iblees/ Shaytaan] is singing and falsehood. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)? And you laugh at it and weep not, Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)” [al-Najm 53:59-61] Ibn Abbas {Radi'Allaahu-Anhu} said regarding this verse that: “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements means “singing”, Abdullah ibn Mas'ud (Radi'Allaahu Anhu) narrated that Apostle of Allaah (S.a.w) said: Singing produces hypocrisy in the heart (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book No. 41, Hadith No. 4909 )
Second - I've been looking at a whole host of sites after asking the question - "is dancing and singing ok in Islam" - it doesn't look good to be honest.
One example:
"Music is audio pornography today, that's what it is. Its explicit, it's shameless, it's vulgar, it takes your sense of humanity away from you." {Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan..} Music is haraam in Islaam,in all of it's shapes and forms. This was the aqeedah of the Sahabas and of the people following Sahabas. Daff is the only instrument allowed, but it has some limitations. It should be simple daff, not those with metallic plates attached to them. Daff is only to be used under certain conditions, and it is allowed only for women, not for men. It is allowed during Eid days, wedding days and during wars. In very simple manner, without exaggeration and damaging the hudoods. Allaah says in Chapter Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning): “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6] The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (Radi'Allaahu Anhu) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari,21/40). Not that Ibn Abbas Radi'Allaahu Anhu was a sahaabi, a student of Prophet {Sallallaahu-Alaiyhi-WaSallam}. He understood what was right. Allaah {S.w.t} says (interpretation of the meaning): “[Allaah {S.w.t} said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with yourvoice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64] It was narrated that Mujaahid (May Allaah have mercy on him) said: “And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice” – his voice [the voice of Iblees/ Shaytaan] is singing and falsehood. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)? And you laugh at it and weep not, Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)” [al-Najm 53:59-61] Ibn Abbas {Radi'Allaahu-Anhu} said regarding this verse that: “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements means “singing”, Abdullah ibn Mas'ud (Radi'Allaahu Anhu) narrated that Apostle of Allaah (S.a.w) said: Singing produces hypocrisy in the heart (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book No. 41, Hadith No. 4909 )
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BigAndy9 wrote:Sassy wrote:
Well there you go, got a pic of me, Lotfi and his Mum who I still correspond with.
I am currently residing in the Muslim enclave of West Midlands - I know that spot very well Sassy.
Of course you do Andy
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Here's the accepted halal version:
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You obviously didn't watch them, they are both the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBXzWQ9LiRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBXzWQ9LiRA
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Sassy wrote:You obviously didn't watch them, they are both the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBXzWQ9LiRA
What are both the same, you pleb?
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The two 'happy' vids you pleb.
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Sassy wrote:The two 'happy' vids you pleb.
No, the one you put up has been deemed haram and puts the participants' lives at risk.
I put up the more acceptable one (to real Muslims).
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Don't be ridiculous. Muslims all over the world dance, always have, always will. For crying out loud go and get a shag and stop inflicting your misery on us.
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Sassy wrote:Don't be ridiculous. Muslims all over the world dance, always have, always will. For crying out loud go and get a shag and stop inflicting your misery on us.
Now Sassy - I've given my views - I like the videos. To me it's just a bunch of people acting for a video.
What you don't like is me giving other peoples' views, right? You're a little shocked maybe?
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Your nuts. Do you think I don't know the views of Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims? And the fact that 9/10s of them are in Saudi Arabia and most Muslims think they are nuts too.
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Any way, even if you can't get a cuddle, I can, so goodnight, blessed be.
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victorisnotamused wrote:I do believe that strictly speaking dancing and music is not allowed?
so these are not "proper" Muslims??
I'm sure you are Correct
I'll dig up the supporting documentation and find out what it actually says
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Sassy wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:
Yes, you keep on telling us that you've travelled to all these Muslim places, have been invited in to their mosques etc...
Well there you go, got a pic of me, Lotfi and his Mum who I still correspond with.
You look like a man hating lesbian dyke sassy
A proper leftwing witch
And that fence post mallet you call a face can be used to exorcise demons
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Music and dancing is good for everyone of any religion IMO, so if Muslims ignore that "rule" about not dancing, it's quite understandable.
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smelly_bandit wrote:Sassy wrote:
Well there you go, got a pic of me, Lotfi and his Mum who I still correspond with.
You look like a man hating lesbian dyke sassy
A proper leftwing witch
And that fence post mallet you call a face can be used to exorcise demons
Dear me, so you claim you are not homophobic and yet use stereotypes to how lesbians look now and use a derogatory word for Lesbians.
Whoops
Oh dear, exposed again
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BigAndy9 wrote:Catman wrote:
Well....The fat RW fuck Dean (admin of flop) he has an anti Muslim site, and he and his cohorts, the impotent RW fuck Duuuurham (fires blanks) and the other, small prick RW imbecile Hughjardon (he only ever used that tag because he can't get a huge hardon) ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::
....Well that site is still up and running!
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
Only Catman can describe someone who's married to a Muslim woman as an anti-Muslim!
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Tesstacious wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
Only Catman can describe someone who's married to a Muslim woman as an anti-Muslim!
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
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Sassy wrote:Tesstacious wrote:
Only Catman can describe someone who's married to a Muslim woman as an anti-Muslim!
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
He doesn't allow racism.
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Sassy wrote:Tesstacious wrote:
Only Catman can describe someone who's married to a Muslim woman as an anti-Muslim!
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
Sorry that is poor to say, he stands against many anti-Muslims claims and racism all the time and racism has nothing to do with her being Muslim. I may not agree with Dean, but he allows any debate, where he does not draw the line is with any type of abuse thrown, but then he is misguided to believe we all have free speech, when we do not, as we have laws rightly so that protect people from those abusing freedom of speech.
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That's true didge.
Others may slag Muslims off - that has nothing to do with Flip himself.
As I've said - he's pro-Muslim and a Tory (left wing).
Others may slag Muslims off - that has nothing to do with Flip himself.
As I've said - he's pro-Muslim and a Tory (left wing).
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BigAndy9 wrote:Catman wrote:
Well....The fat RW fuck Dean (admin of flop) he has an anti Muslim site, and he and his cohorts, the impotent RW fuck Duuuurham (fires blanks) and the other, small prick RW imbecile Hughjardon (he only ever used that tag because he can't get a huge hardon) ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::
....Well that site is still up and running!
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
Left wing Tory?
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Sorry you are at times clueless Andy
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Didge wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:
I think you'll find that FlipMeister is extremely pro Muslim and extremely liberal - he's also a left wing Tory.
Left wing Tory?
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Sorry you are at times clueless Andy
The Conservative Party are middle-to-left, the same as Labour and Lib Dem.
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BigAndy9 wrote:Didge wrote:
Left wing Tory?
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Sorry you are at times clueless Andy
The Conservative Party are middle-to-left, the same as Labour and Lib Dem.
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Really, they are center right Andy.
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Didge wrote:Sassy wrote:
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
Sorry that is poor to say, he stands against many anti-Muslims claims and racism all the time and racism has nothing to do with her being Muslim. I may not agree with Dean, but he allows any debate, where he does not draw the line is with any type of abuse thrown, but then he is misguided to believe we all have free speech, when we do not, as we have laws rightly so that protect people from those abusing freedom of speech.
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
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Tesstacious wrote:Didge wrote:
Sorry that is poor to say, he stands against many anti-Muslims claims and racism all the time and racism has nothing to do with her being Muslim. I may not agree with Dean, but he allows any debate, where he does not draw the line is with any type of abuse thrown, but then he is misguided to believe we all have free speech, when we do not, as we have laws rightly so that protect people from those abusing freedom of speech.
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
WTF, sorry are you even placing that on a par with the likes of allakaka stating n---er, bumchummery etc?
Behave Tess, Catman is an idiot I agree and what he says is no better than yourself with your anti Muslims views, as nobody stops any of the views about Muslims here either, so stop talking babble, but this site is far more tolerant in its view than Flap allows
Again you live under an illusion if you think you have free speech as nobody has had free speech, as free speech has limitation and rightly so because people are so irresponsible with free speech
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Didge wrote:Tesstacious wrote:
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
WTF, sorry are you even placing that on a par with the likes of allakaka stating n---er, bumchummery etc?
Behave Tess, Catman is an idiot I agree and what he says is no better than yourself with your anti Muslims views, as nobody stops any of the views about Muslims here either, so stop talking babble, but this site is far more tolerant in its view than Flap allows
Again you live under an illusion if you think you have free speech as nobody has had free speech, as free speech has limitation and rightly so because people are so irresponsible with free speech
Behave?!! You've been reading the koran too much I think!
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Tesstacious wrote:Didge wrote:
WTF, sorry are you even placing that on a par with the likes of allakaka stating n---er, bumchummery etc?
Behave Tess, Catman is an idiot I agree and what he says is no better than yourself with your anti Muslims views, as nobody stops any of the views about Muslims here either, so stop talking babble, but this site is far more tolerant in its view than Flap allows
Again you live under an illusion if you think you have free speech as nobody has had free speech, as free speech has limitation and rightly so because people are so irresponsible with free speech
Behave?!! You've been reading the koran too much I think!
Thanks for just proving my point, in regards to your anti Muslim views.
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Yes when you stop and speak out about some of the very anti homosexual posts, ethnic minorities etc, then I might give your view some valid reasoning, otherwise it is nothing more than hypocritical babble. That is why Catman is an idiot/hypocrite too for also insulting Christians
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Tesstacious wrote:Didge wrote:
Sorry that is poor to say, he stands against many anti-Muslims claims and racism all the time and racism has nothing to do with her being Muslim. I may not agree with Dean, but he allows any debate, where he does not draw the line is with any type of abuse thrown, but then he is misguided to believe we all have free speech, when we do not, as we have laws rightly so that protect people from those abusing freedom of speech.
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
It's a fucking news story from the Daily Mirror you stupid cow, so you are against certain news stories being posted if you don't agree with them, you RW fascist scum?
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Catman wrote:Tesstacious wrote:
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
It's a fucking news story from the Daily Mirror you stupid cow, so you are against certain news stories being posted if you don't agree with them, you RW fascist scum?
Grow up for goodness sake, you have made some childish prejudice view points against Christians which is also wrong
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Oh really - the Daily Mirror referred to them as "Christian shits" did they? Care to show me that bit?Catman wrote:Tesstacious wrote:
As opposed to here, where Catman can post anti-Christian threads calling them "Christian shits" and abuse female posters - seems free speech only applies to a chosen few.
It's a fucking news story from the Daily Mirror you stupid cow, so you are against certain news stories being posted if you don't agree with them, you RW fascist scum?
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Do you still fail to see what I mean folks?, religion sadly is the source of too much trouble...ok it's people who do the warring , but religion is probably one of the most controversial issues."
And sorry to be so James Blunt , but all for what ?...
Something/someone which may or may not even exist?
Madness...
We should be pulling together as human beings first and foremost and not let beliefs in ' Gods' divide us.
And sorry to be so James Blunt , but all for what ?...
Something/someone which may or may not even exist?
Madness...
We should be pulling together as human beings first and foremost and not let beliefs in ' Gods' divide us.
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you are a nasty little shit catman, you have no respect for women.if you want to post crude remarks to the ladies it shows what a filthy little turd you are .Leave the ladies alone,if you want to post shit like that make it to me you coward.
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Only Catman can describe someone who's married to a Muslim woman as an anti-Muslim!
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
It's called free speech sassy!
He runs a forum and you're allowed to say what you like on there.
She probably understands - like SM does - that people can have views, it isn't about licking arse.
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The video shows real Muslims having proper fun same as most people do. Certainly when I was in Egypt there was plenty of dancing and music and singing
And naturally there are fundamentalist killjoys; but then fundamentalists from all religion tend to be devoid of the ability to have fun...
It is sad that dumb people having dumb stereotypes mean that some people think this is required to make a point though
And naturally there are fundamentalist killjoys; but then fundamentalists from all religion tend to be devoid of the ability to have fun...
It is sad that dumb people having dumb stereotypes mean that some people think this is required to make a point though
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eddie wrote:Sassy wrote:
Frankly, he doesn't seem to have the least respect for her with the crap and racism he allows. I hope she never sees it, she'd probably be horrified.
It's called free speech sassy!
He runs a forum and you're allowed to say what you like on there.
She probably understands - like SM does - that people can have views, it isn't about licking arse.
Why do you think SM isn't on there any more?
My OH is a Scot. Say I started a forum and there was thread after thread being really vile and racially abusive about Scots. Out of respect for him I'd stop it. Sorry, but I consider by allowing the continuous filth about Muslims that Dean allows he is showing his wife absolutely no respect at all. If his wife were English and the threads were speaking about the English the same way, I'd say the same thing. It's not just one or two threads, it's continuous.
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