Is flight MH370 in Diego Garcia?

First topic message reminder :

Malaysia Flight 370 has now been missing for 27 days, the March 8th date of disappearance drifting further and further away. This is particularly torturous and frustrating for those with family and loved ones aboard the missing Malaysia jet and has also led to wild speculation about what happened to Flight 370.

One of the passengers, Philip Wood, has been the focus of one of the more prominent alternative theories about the fate of Flight 370. While some see this as just another Flight 370 Conspiracy Theory, a text and picture reportedly from Philip Wood, have gained a lot of traction among bloggers, on Facebook, and around the web.

The story goes that Wood, a high level IBM executive who really was on Malaysia Flight 370, sent a text from his iPhone more than a week after Flight 370 disappeared. The text reportedly read:

“I have been held hostage by unknown military personnel after my flight was hijacked…I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone… I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly.”

Along with the text came a photo which, even though just a blacked out image, had lots of information attached that iPhone photos automatically include when taken. GPS coordinates of the phone’s location were most interesting and placed it, and presumably Woods, at a U.S. Naval Base on an island called Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1199399/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-search-new-leads-technology-and-theories-abound/#EPxlWFQZcXhXqpSz.99

lovedust wrote:
^ The one where he announced the investigation was criminal in nature

Lovey, where dear, I can't find anything about it.

Found this:

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- The investigation into Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is now classified as a criminal investigation, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing the Malaysian police chief.

Inspector General of Police Khalid Abu Bakar said authorities have already recorded more than 170 statements and will interview more people for the Flight 370 probe, the Journal said.

But Bakar cautioned that what happened with Flight 370 might still be unknown after the investigation.

He added that the investigation into the flight simulator in the pilot's house is still inconclusive. Authorities are awaiting an expert's report on the simulator, he said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/01/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

Sassy wrote:Found this:

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- The investigation into Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is now classified as a criminal investigation, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing the Malaysian police chief.

Inspector General of Police Khalid Abu Bakar said authorities have already recorded more than 170 statements and will interview more people for the Flight 370 probe, the Journal said.

But Bakar cautioned that what happened with Flight 370 might still be unknown after the investigation.

He added that the investigation into the flight simulator in the pilot's house is still inconclusive. Authorities are awaiting an expert's report on the simulator, he said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/01/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

That was a week ago......

Sorry.

Thought as you did the news meant as of now.......  

Oh, I wasn't wanting to give the impression it was a new development... Just saying I missed it when it came out.

lovedust wrote:
Oh, I wasn't wanting to give the impression it was a new development... Just saying I missed it when it came out.

You had us going there! lol

lovedust wrote:
Oh, I wasn't wanting to give the impression it was a new development... Just saying I missed it when it came out.

maybe a footnote to oneself if info is missed and then posted......  A date for link usefull..............  Not to mention starting with " Last week "  lol  I read or saw this.......

Apologies LD, caught me in the heat of the mo last night. No excuse from me but sorry........

gerber wrote:

lovedust wrote:
Oh, I wasn't wanting to give the impression it was a new development... Just saying I missed it when it came out.

maybe a footnote to oneself if info is missed and then posted......  A date for link usefull..............  Not to mention starting with " Last week "  lol  I read or saw this.......

I knew what she meant, gerbs.   Honest mistake.  She was catching up...doesn't occur to one to link if you think everyone else already knows.

Original Quill wrote:

gerber wrote:

maybe a footnote to oneself if info is missed and then posted......  A date for link usefull..............  Not to mention starting with " Last week "  lol  I read or saw this.......

I knew what she meant, gerbs.   Honest mistake.  She was catching up...doesn't occur to one to link if you think everyone else already knows.

Thanks Quill.

lovedust wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I knew what she meant, gerbs.   Honest mistake.  She was catching up...doesn't occur to one to link if you think everyone else already knows.

Thanks Quill.

 ::D::   A Timely Note to LD and Quill :
SOMETIMES some of our more dimwitted critics, who are all too often much too quick to try and show us just how clever they believe they can be with their wisecracks and smartarse remarks, prove to be their own worst enemies as they only end up showing off their own ignorance and stupidity !

As demonstrated here by a couple of those more thick-headed fringe posters' narkiness in their clumsily inappropriate and unwarranted extra comments targeted against LD above there..

NOT only out-of-order but also well out of their depth, on these issues over here in my backyard...   

Oh dear Bee, will you never stop.   Even Quill could see that we thought she had got new information.   As for 'in your back yard', are you so far behind the times that you didn't realise they can make instantaneous broadcasts from Australia these days, or haven't you caught up with that.   We often get information before you do.

Sassy wrote:
Oh dear Bee, will you never stop.   Even Quill could see that we thought she had got new information.   As for 'in your back yard', are you so far behind the times that you didn't realise they can make instantaneous broadcasts from Australia these days, or haven't you caught up with that.   We often get information before you do.

 ::lightsab:: 

GO FUCK YOURSELF, you ignorant shit-stirring bitch...

  

It's really pointless trying with you isn't it? Because you just carry on your foul mouthed rants. Really sad, because you used to be a nice bloke.

 :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-: 

SASSY once again only goes on to further prove just why she is so quickly earning such a reputation as an ignorant and know-nothing, nasty hearted and clueless, and always needing to slip in the last word, senile old harridan..    


EVEN THOUGH I have chosen not to even comment on proceedings on this topic for some days, Sassy still decided to make her all-too-obviously false claims against me ~ this time trying to claim that she magically knows so much more than me, simply through the always superior British media that she decides to listen to !!!       

I have to wonder just how Sassy can claim to know so much more than any Australians, when no Aussies have even posted any updates on here for some days now ?   

@ LD

Aplogisied but it seems to be too far up the page.

Caught me off balance last night. I am sorry.

i was being pedantic.

What the hell are you on Bee?   Sunstroke?   The whole world knows as much about this subject as Australians, not heard of satellite communications that TV stations use and broadcasts in real time?   Don't you get that they can broadcast from Australia practically instantaneously?  You have become one very weird man.

Lone Wolf wrote: :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-:   :-:cawg:-: 

SASSY once again only goes on to further prove just why she is so quickly earning such a reputation as an ignorant and know-nothing, nasty hearted and clueless, and always needing to slip in the last word, senile old harridan..    


EVEN THOUGH I have chosen not to even comment on proceedings on this topic for some days, Sassy still decided to make her all-too-obviously false claims against me ~ this time trying to claim that she magically knows so much more than me, simply through the always superior British media that she decides to listen to !!!       

I have to wonder just how Sassy can claim to know so much more than any Australians, when no Aussies have even posted any updates on here for some days now ?     

Bee ! do you realise what a sad  pup you are making yourself  out to be. vaya has  the respect of the whole forum, now why is that ? You're both saying similar things but one has respect and one derision, why is that ?

gerber wrote:@ LD

Aplogisied but it seems to be too far up the page.

Caught me off balance last night. I am sorry.

i was being pedantic.

Really Gerbs, you did nothing wrong. No apology necessary. x

Sassy wrote:It's really pointless trying with you isn't it?   Because you just carry on your foul mouthed rants.    Really sad, because you used to be a nice bloke.

What about Phils foul mouthed rants or is that OK because he was never nice?   

Nems wrote:

Sassy wrote:It's really pointless trying with you isn't it?   Because you just carry on your foul mouthed rants.    Really sad, because you used to be a nice bloke.

What about Phils foul mouthed rants or is that OK because he was never nice?   

Sigh! And now you are going to deny you said on here that you pm'd Quill because you were worried about Bee, which was because of his posts?

'Everyone Remains A Suspect' On Flight MH370
Malaysia's transport minister tells Sky News investigators are still working to discover what happened to the aircraft.
8:39pm UK, Thursday 10 April 2014



By Alistair Bunkall, Defence Correspondent, Kuala Lumpur

MI6, the CIA and Chinese intelligence officials are still trying to find out what happened to missing flight MH370, Sky News has been told.

Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's defence minister and acting transport minister, admitted that mistakes had been made in the way relatives had sometimes been treated.

But, during a lengthy interview, he defended his country's handling of what he described as an "unprecedented situation without benchmark".

Talking to Sky News in a Kuala Lumpur city centre hotel, he said the criminal investigation remains live.

"Everyone on board remains under suspicion as it stands," he said.

"As we look into the black box, we look into new facts. It isn't just MI6 involved in the investigation, it is Chinese intelligence, it's also the FBI.

"I've asked them to re-intensify their investigations, just as we did with the radar data."

On what work MI6 has helped with, he explained: "The whole passenger manifest, the FBI looked at the simulator, that will all come out later.

"I find it difficult to say more without jeopardising the investigation. The truth will prevail."

The Malaysian government has been criticised by the media and international onlookers over the last five weeks.

It has certainly been an event the likes of which the country has never experienced before. Mr Hussein admitted lessons had been learned.

"I'm not saying MAS (Malaysia Airlines) handled it perfectly," he said.

"We have to deal with family members who are trying to grapple with it. And sometimes people are not sensitive, including the Malaysian government, including MAS."

He insisted the Chinese relatives who demonstrated outside the Malaysian Embassy in Beijing, and then later in Kuala Lumpur, did not represent all the family members:

"I know there are families who are really not happy with how things are going and we try to manage it," he said.

"But at the same time there is also the other side of the coin where other people have been dealing with their grief in a different way."

"I can only do my best. I can only tell you what I know. But the problem with the families is that the one question they want to know I don't have the answers to just yet, which is: Where are their loved ones? Where is the plane?"

It remains unclear who will take possession of the black box once it is found.

It could be the Malaysian government, the American National Transportation Board, British Air Accident Investigations Branch, or perhaps a multi-national group.

But the belief is that the Australians have found the location of the missing plane, although they are yet to retrieve any wreckage.

"I think it is the black box and I hope it is the black box, but if not I will still not give up," Mr Hussein said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1240589/everyone-remains-a-suspect-on-flight-mh370

The nuclear-powered submarine HMS Tireless is on its way to the area where possible signals from the black box recorder of the missing flight MH370 have been detected, Sky sources say.

The ship HMS Echo arrived in the search zone in the Indian Ocean a few hours ago and will help the Australian naval ship Ocean Shield, which detected four previous pings, and Haixun 01, a Chinese ship.

After dropping sound-locating buoys into the ocean, an Australian Navy P-3 Orion aircraft detected another potential signal on Thursday afternoon in the same area pings were heard on Saturday.

http://news.sky.com/story/1240227/british-nuclear-sub-joins-missing-plane-hunt

Lot of effort still going on.

Sassy wrote:

Nems wrote:

What about Phils foul mouthed rants or is that OK because he was never nice?   

Sigh!   And now you are going to deny you said on here that you pm'd Quill because you were worried about Bee, which was because of his posts?

I was worried about Bee because he seemed to be angry at some of the posts made instead of treating them with the contempt they deserve.
Why would I deny that? Im not the liar

 

DESPITE Sassy being the main source of lies, misinformations and misleads on these Malaysian Airline threads, she still keeps on trying to blame others for her own regular little miss-steps...

EVEN when those others maybe haven't posted any 'updates' in here for a couple of days..

(AS IF the more observant members on here aren't already quite well aware of Sassy and Stephen's tricky manoeuvres..) !   

Nems wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Sigh!   And now you are going to deny you said on here that you pm'd Quill because you were worried about Bee, which was because of his posts?

I was worried about Bee because he seemed to be angry at some of the posts made instead of treating them with the contempt they deserve.
Why would I deny that? Im not the liar

He wasn't angry at some posts, he was making unprovoked attacks on all and sundry and you know it. You're not the liar? That will be why you denied how Quill attacked you on Speak was it until Stephen remarked on it? You are not only a liar, but your bore with it. Now, can I suggest you lubricate your tongue with a few bottles ready to lick Quill again.

Lone Wolf wrote: 

DESPITE Sassy being the main source of lies, misinformations and misleads on these Malaysian Airline threads, she still keeps on trying to blame others for her own regular little miss-steps...

EVEN when those others maybe haven't posted any 'updates' in here for a couple of days..

(AS IF the more observant members on here aren't already quite well aware of Sassy and Stephen's tricky manoeuvres..) !    

You are totally mad Bee, lost it, marbles gone, strumming your bottom lip. It's such a shame. There have been no mis-steps, only in the vacuum you refer to as a brain.

Sassy wrote:

Nems wrote:

I was worried about Bee because he seemed to be angry at some of the posts made instead of treating them with the contempt they deserve.
Why would I deny that? Im not the liar

He wasn't angry at some posts, he was making unprovoked attacks on all and sundry and you know it.   You're not the liar?   That will be why you denied how Quill attacked you on Speak was it until Stephen remarked on it?     You are not only a liar, but your bore with it.   Now, can I suggest you lubricate your tongue with a few bottles ready to lick Quill again.

What are you on about now ya mad old bat?
I have never denied having a fall out with Quill just because we dont live each moment on here doesn't mean we didn't sort it out.
As for your comments about licking Quill, again your lack of self awareness is staggering. Do you read what you post to Irn?
Im glad Im boring you, perhaps you could stick me back on ignore and attention seek using some else.
Ta muchly

Oh bless, you most definitely did deny you had a fall out with Quill:

Me Strange, so did you until Quill attacked you, as did Bee. I'm so sorry for you, keep taking the Rennies, you might have to move on to something stronger soon.

You No, that is senseless blether Im afraid 

I really feel sorry for you, having to remember when you lie and when you don't must be so difficult, and it's no good asking Quill how to do it, he's useless.   If you can't see the difference between agreeing with someone politically and what you do with Quill you are further gone than I thought.   And attention seeking is what you are doing all the time with your shit stirring tactics.   I'm not going to stick you on ignore, watching you stir shows me how thankful I should be for finding out who you really are.   Go down some more bottles, might get you through.

Sassy, since you are going on and on about me, let me just say for the record.

Nems and I get along just fine. Whatever fictions you want to write/overblow in the past, frankly don't matter. You are just being nasty.

And stephen just wants to play pile-on with the sassy-posse. He never has anything of substance to add to anything.

Now, perhaps we can get back to flight 370.

    


Go back to your fantasies Quill, then we can see all your mistakes.

Original Quill wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Found this on Wiki Answers to explain what would happen to the plane:

Well if the plane was at cruising altitude, no one would survive as the ocean is hard as concrete when you hit it at over 500 mph from 30,000 feet. Look up Alaska Airlines that crashed in the Pacific a few years ago outside of LA. They literally plummted from cruising altitude nose first into the ocean. The only thing left of the plane were tiny shards.
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081230090602AA1gLMj

And that is about what would happen when the fuel ran out.   Add to that the action of the sea for a month, and the fact the fuel had run out so no oil, in any case a sea like that would break up a small oil slick within days, if not hours.

Not quite, sass.  Alaska Airlines flight 261 was a mechanical failure of a unique aircraft design.  The MD-80 has a horizontal tail stabilizer at the top of the tail.  Like this:



It rotated according to a large internal screw, causing the piece to go up and down.  The screw went off the track and stuck at the top, causing the horizontal stabilizer to freeze and force the aircraft into a direct vertical dive.  It went vertically into the sea.  I have flown that flight many times...believe me, I paid attention.

A 777 has entirely different flight dynamics.  A Boeing 777 would descend with a much less severe glide ratio, meaning it would hit the water more like the US Air flight that went into the Hudson River.

Of course, with Flight 1549 Captain Sullenberger was alive and pulled the nose of his A-320 up at the last second, creating a softer glide.  Nevertheless, that is 180-degrees different from the way Flight 261 went into the drink.

But why are we talking about this?  I think the whole south Indian Ocean ditch is a ruse from the beginning.  They will never find the aircraft down there.

Quill, I'm interested to know how you come to that conclusion on a flameout on a Boeing 777 that is set on auto-pilot when that happens.
Using the fuel imbalance process to correct an engin flameout on just one engine requires pilot intervention and as both engines never run at the same fuel consumption levels one is going to flamout before the other. If one engine flames out then the auto pilot would correct the trim to compensate for the loss of power and when the second one flames out then the TAC system would disengage and the auto pilot would kick out leaving the trim set at the compensating levels resulting in the aircraft being  aerodynamically unstable meaning a probably spiral descent into the ocean.

A landing similar to the one that happened on the Hudson river is almost impossible without the controls being handled by a pilot.

Anyway. Is this plane in Diego or not?   

Not lol

eddie wrote:Anyway. Is this plane in Diego or not?   

Well according to this its in Afghanistan   

http://rtlec.co.uk/russian-intelligence-claims-mh370-passengers-alive-in-secret-location/

Well as the CIA, MI6 and the Chinese Intelligence services are working on this together, they are probably looking into all the reports, and so far they are still pouring more resources into finding the black box. And as the majority of the passengers were Chinese, I think they would make sure to investigate every lead they get.

harvesmom wrote:

eddie wrote:Anyway. Is this plane in Diego or not?   

Well according to this its in Afghanistan   

http://rtlec.co.uk/russian-intelligence-claims-mh370-passengers-alive-in-secret-location/

Good evening

That links perfectly with a thread re the blood moons, the Ukrainians and Putin......

Food for thought.

Love the post. ta much

The US could soon verify it, it's not supposed to be in a hanger, another report says it has a broken wing.   The US have loads of drones there they could send to look, the report in another paper specifies the area.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=145330&frid=31&seccatid=91&cid=31&fromval=1

They could even use satellite scanning to look for it.

With at least three countries intelligence services on the case I can't see them overlooking it.

Very interesting though Harves.

gerber wrote:

harvesmom wrote:

Well according to this its in Afghanistan   

http://rtlec.co.uk/russian-intelligence-claims-mh370-passengers-alive-in-secret-location/

Good evening

That links perfectly with a thread re the blood moons, the Ukrainians and Putin......

Food for thought.

Love the post.  ta much

Evening Gerber,

I know we will get called conspiracy theorists lol, why is why I just threw this link in in passing, but to my mind there may well be something in it, if it has landed somewhere rather than lost at sea this seems more likely than Diego Garcia.

Sassy wrote:Well as the CIA, MI6 and the Chinese Intelligence  services are working on this together, they are probably looking into all the reports, and so far they are still pouring more resources into finding the black box.   And as the majority of the passengers were Chinese, I think they would make sure to investigate every lead they get.

Could not agree more.

But would any one of those offices wish to supply daily public bulletins to the public.................

Come on, we all know the answer to that....... Not on your Nelly. The wishy washy public services can do that......And we want them to send all snoopers of the scent. Australian media is doing a fine job and telling the world what it needs to know...........

Tie me Kangaroo down sport..

Sassy wrote:The US could soon verify it, it's not supposed to be in a hanger, another report says it has a broken wing.   The US have loads of drones there they could send to look, the report in another paper specifies the area.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=145330&frid=31&seccatid=91&cid=31&fromval=1

They could even use satellite scanning to look for it.

With at least three countries intelligence services on the case I can't see them overlooking it.

Very interesting though Harves.

Thanks for that link Sassy, I had googled but couldn't find any more info which is why I hadn't posted it before, the original link just came up on my facebook feed but I don't know how reliable it is.

gerber wrote:

Sassy wrote:Well as the CIA, MI6 and the Chinese Intelligence  services are working on this together, they are probably looking into all the reports, and so far they are still pouring more resources into finding the black box.   And as the majority of the passengers were Chinese, I think they would make sure to investigate every lead they get.

Could not agree more.

But would any one of those offices wish to supply daily public bulletins to the public.................  

Come on, we all know the answer to that.......  Not on your Nelly.  The wishy washy public services can do that......And we want them to send all snoopers of the scent.  Australian media is doing a fine job and telling the world what it needs to know...........

Tie me Kangaroo down sport..

Of course they wouldn't tell the public Gerbs, I agree, but would they let their governments spend millions of pound on equipment, ships, plans, submarines, man power etc? They would get them to tone it down and say, look chaps, can't let on two much, but you're spending money for nothing, keep doing something to allay the fears while we investigate, but it ain't there so don't spend so much.

harvesmom wrote:

Sassy wrote:The US could soon verify it, it's not supposed to be in a hanger, another report says it has a broken wing.   The US have loads of drones there they could send to look, the report in another paper specifies the area.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=145330&frid=31&seccatid=91&cid=31&fromval=1

They could even use satellite scanning to look for it.

With at least three countries intelligence services on the case I can't see them overlooking it.

Very interesting though Harves.

Thanks for that link Sassy, I had googled but couldn't find any more info which is why I hadn't posted it before, the original link just came up on my facebook feed but I don't know how reliable it is.

I just googled 'is malaysian aircraft in Afghanisatan' lol

harvesmom wrote:

gerber wrote:

Good evening

That links perfectly with a thread re the blood moons, the Ukrainians and Putin......

Food for thought.

Love the post.  ta much

Evening Gerber,

I know we will get called conspiracy theorists lol, why is why I just threw this link in in passing, but to my mind there may well be something in it, if it has  landed somewhere rather than lost at sea this seems more likely than Diego Garcia.

I agree

Me for one does not think it is down in the ocean. Too easy. And the one area not looked at as far as the media the internet or blogs are concerned is where you have pointed the finger..... The smoke screen gets thicker but the internet gets cuter. Wherever it is IMO is a place where communication is either non existent due to the Geography or has been made impossible due to technology...

I am bonkers btw....

Sassy wrote:

gerber wrote:

Could not agree more.

But would any one of those offices wish to supply daily public bulletins to the public.................  

Come on, we all know the answer to that.......  Not on your Nelly.  The wishy washy public services can do that......And we want them to send all snoopers of the scent.  Australian media is doing a fine job and telling the world what it needs to know...........

Tie me Kangaroo down sport..

Of course they wouldn't tell the public Gerbs, I agree, but would they let their governments spend millions of pound on equipment, ships, plans, submarines, man power etc?   They would get them to tone it down and say, look chaps, can't let on two much, but you're spending money for nothing, keep doing something to allay the fears while we investigate, but it ain't there so don't spend so much.

Pre the twin towers, no................. now yes....

gerber wrote:

harvesmom wrote:

Evening Gerber,

I know we will get called conspiracy theorists lol, why is why I just threw this link in in passing, but to my mind there may well be something in it, if it has  landed somewhere rather than lost at sea this seems more likely than Diego Garcia.

I agree

Me for one does not think it is down in the ocean.   Too easy.  And the one area not looked at as far as the media the internet or blogs are concerned is where you have pointed the finger.....   The smoke screen gets thicker but the internet gets cuter.  Wherever it is IMO is a place where communication is either non existent due to the Geography or has been made impossible due to technology...

I am bonkers btw....

No Gerbs, you're not, honest injun (with fingers crossed behind back)     

And on that note, I'm for bed, night, see what tomorrow brings.

Is there possibly a hostage situation where they are asking for a political situation to be resolved and no media involved, hence a big cover up to ensure passengers safety? Off the wall I know but... OK i'm as bonkers as you Gerber!

harvesmom wrote:Is there possibly a hostage situation where they are asking for a political situation to be resolved and no media involved, hence a big cover up to ensure passengers safety? Off the wall I know but...  OK i'm as bonkers as you Gerber!

Yes you are. Sorry to have to tell you.

To many big IT scientists on board, too much secrecy, too much throwing off the scent. Too much money!



The whole thing smells. Last week many blogs on the internet web - theory etc, this week non.

i have no doubt that this thread is also being followed if not logged.... The sudden silence from the sites is questionable.


The closure of sites, the lack of communication is weird....


More is known,

See you in Gulag 13

XX

gerber wrote:

harvesmom wrote:Is there possibly a hostage situation where they are asking for a political situation to be resolved and no media involved, hence a big cover up to ensure passengers safety? Off the wall I know but...  OK i'm as bonkers as you Gerber!

Yes you are.  Sorry to have to tell you.  

To many big IT scientists on board, too much secrecy, too much throwing off the scent.  Too much money!



The whole thing smells.  Last week many blogs on the internet web  -  theory etc, this week non.

i have no doubt that this thread is also being followed if not logged....  The sudden silence from the  sites is questionable.


The closure of sites, the lack of communication is weird....


More is known,

See you in  Gulag 13

XX

Flippin heck, that's it you scare the life out of me    Me and the dog are off to bed, if the Russians are watching, Edds started it OK?? That's EDDIE. Not me >>>>>>>>>>>

harvesmom wrote:

gerber wrote:

Yes you are.  Sorry to have to tell you.  

To many big IT scientists on board, too much secrecy, too much throwing off the scent.  Too much money!



The whole thing smells.  Last week many blogs on the internet web  -  theory etc, this week non.

i have no doubt that this thread is also being followed if not logged....  The sudden silence from the  sites is questionable.


The closure of sites, the lack of communication is weird....


More is known,

See you in  Gulag 13

XX

Flippin heck, that's it you scare the life out of me    Me and the dog are off to bed, if the Russians are watching, Edds started it OK?? That's EDDIE. Not me >>>>>>>>>>>

And we all know where Edds is................. Don't we..... Train dog , hit with pillow...... Dog knows where Edds s....

Me............ off to Mexico, if you wish to join me flying out of Orley airport tomorrow. see you there xx Edds will be on plane btw.. as will Sassy but have yet to let her know who will tell Sm, and the LD not forgetting JD, VOD, HF, Grumphy og. Cass but will need her supersonicbroomstick.. tess , Aussy Wasp , Mrs Slocum, Fat boy slim, Cockylekie, Didgerdoo, Hunky munky David, Elixadoolittle,,,,,,Old fashioned Pen and Ink, the Horsey brusher, the darlect vectra, not forgetting lunchmoneypocketspender Harvrsmoon... Everyone just be there or be square

Dougie will be Captain and will be in control of the cockpit............... safe landing peeps!

C'mere gerbs....gonna clobber you with my broomstick xxxxx

As to the OP? no it is not.

I did at first think like harvest as to a hostage situation and the Chinese weren't telling but after watching last few nights I do believe its at the bottom of the ocean where they have located the pings.

Poor poor families -may they get some closure soon

Cass wrote:C'mere gerbs....gonna clobber you with my broomstick xxxxx

As to the OP? no it is not.

I did at first think like harvest as to a hostage situation and the Chinese weren't telling but after watching last few nights I do believe its at the bottom of the ocean where they have located the pings.

Poor poor families -may they get some closure soon

no still not sure. For the families............. Mixed, hope they are for closure, but .... Me is an Enid Blyton collector, Noddy being my fav of all time but then there is the Secret Seven....

And then again Swallows and Amozens, we can all remember those.. Today Walter Ransome has been disclosed as a Russian spy..... Lake Windermere the hallowed ground of childhood.... reds under the bed.....

And we are all saying yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyy the plane ran out of fuel, crashed into the deepest of all seas with the topology and vulcanology that with ultimately ensure nothing is ever found.....

Irn Bru wrote:Quill, I'm interested to know how you come to that conclusion on a flameout on a Boeing 777 that is set on auto-pilot when that happens.
Using the fuel imbalance process to correct an engin flameout on just one engine requires pilot intervention and as both engines never run at the same fuel consumption levels one is going to flamout before the other. If one engine flames out then the auto pilot would correct the trim to compensate for the loss of power and when the second one flames out then the TAC system would disengage and the auto pilot would kick out leaving the trim set at the compensating levels resulting in the aircraft being  aerodynamically unstable meaning a probably spiral descent into the ocean.

A landing similar to the one that happened on the Hudson river is almost impossible without the controls being handled by a pilot.

I tell you why I say that.  The MD-80, though bought out by Boeing, is actually a McDonnell-Douglas design.  (MD=McDonnell Douglas)   It  is atypical of the Boeing designs.  The MD-80, former DC-9, is a delicately designed aircraft, depending more on wing stability.  It has a beautiful wing that anchors the aircraft, and the tail stabilizers are simply for guidance, up down, left right.  But if anything goes wrong with those tail stabilizers, the airframe is erratic.  You can't control an aircraft with a single axis.

 The first job I had out of high school was as a computer programmer for North American Aiviation in Los Angeles, so I learned the basics if not the sophisticated details.  The Boeing aircraft is a much more stable airframe.  Beginning with the B-29, Boeing built heavy airframes relying mostly on stability and steady flight under minimal control.

Their jet series began with the 707.  It has gone through the 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, and now the 787, with the same basic stability.  They have gotten a lot bigger, and their power plants have gotten a lot more powerful.  But the basic aircraft remains the same: built for steady flight, natural passive glide ratio, and even balance.

The Boeing aircraft is like the German Mark IV tank: heavy, steady and reliable.  It has been the same throughout the whole 7-series.  The 777 is the new fly-by-wire technology, same as the F-117, but it is built upon the same old reliable airframe.  Its electronics would compensate for flight corrections due to a flame-out, but the air frame would remain steady and even.

That plane doesn't go into the drink head first.  No matter what you do with it, if it's left on autopilot it has a natural easy glide ratio...and goes down belly first.