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Post by Original Quill Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:20 pm

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(ORDER LIST: 592 U.S.)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2020

ORDER IN PENDING CASE


20A98 KELLY, MIKE, ET AL. V. PENNSYLVANIA, ET AL.

The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.

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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:35 pm

This thread is supposed to be about the post-election fray by Republicans, in the Courts, to overturn the will of the people.  This issue is far more important than petty personal attacks by cuckie.

Back on point:

Bloomberg wrote:Trump’s Wisconsin Election Suit Dismissed by Federal Judge

By Erik Larson
December 12, 2020

A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump threw out a lawsuit filed by his campaign in Wisconsin that sought to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory in the battleground state.

The suit against Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers and other state officials was dismissed with prejudice on Saturday by U.S. District Judge Brett Ludwig, who heard arguments Thursday from Trump campaign attorneys claiming the state’s mail-in voting procedures during the coronavirus pandemic were put in place illegally.

The president “has not proved that defendants violated his rights under the Electors Clause. To the contrary, the record shows Wisconsin’s Presidential Electors are being determined in the very manner directed by the Legislature, as required by Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution,” wrote Ludwig, who took up his current post in September.

The judge said Trump’s argument that disagreements over the conduct of an election by state officials created a federal claim is contrary to the Constitution and “common sense.”

If Trump were correct, “any disappointed loser in a presidential election, able to hire a team of clever lawyers, could flag claimed deviations from the election rules and cast doubt on the election results,” the judge said. “This would risk turning every presidential election into a federal court lawsuit over the Electors Clause.”

‘Ordinary Disputes’

While Trump’s arguments about the conduct of the election weren’t frivolous, “when they are cleared of their rhetoric, they consist of little more than ordinary disputes over statutory construction,” the judge wrote in a 23-page order. “Plaintiff’s Electors Clause claims fail as a matter of law and fact.”

Ludwig added that “for the first time in the nation’s history, a candidate that has lost an election for president based on the popular vote is trying to use federal law to challenge the results of a statewide popular election.”

Trump’s campaign filed the Wisconsin suit Dec. 2, nearly a month after the election he lost to Biden by about 7 million votes nationwide and by an identical margin in the Electoral College to Trump’s 2016 win over Hillary Clinton.

He filed similar claims around the same time in the Wisconsin Supreme Court trying to invalidate results in the state’s two largest counties, Milwaukee and Dane [where proponderence of blacks live], which lean Democratic. The state high court rejected the case, saying the campaign needed to re-file in county courts.

No Credible Evidence

The decision for what rules to use for elections are issues that the state legislature has expressly entrusted to the Wisconsin Election Commission, said Ludwig.

Dozens of suits by the Trump campaign and its allies have failed in courts across the country, while federal judges in Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia have dismissed related lawsuits filed by ex-Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell. She claims Biden’s win is the result of a vast conspiracy involving voting machines tainted by Venezuelan software being hacked by China and Iran. None of the suits have produced credible evidence of voter fraud.

Trump and his supporters on Friday night were thwarted in their Hail-Mary petition filed directly in the U.S. Supreme Court by the state of Texas, seeking to block Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia from participating in the Electoral College vote.

In an effectively unanimous order, the top court rejected the lawsuit Trump had called “the big one,” clearing the path for Joe Biden to become the 46th president. The order ensures the states involved can cast their votes for Biden in the Electoral College on Monday.

"Voting machines tainted by Venezuelan software being hacked by China and Iran???"  Trump's MO is to discredit real truth, by making up absurd analogies that couldn't be true.  Often, he flips the timing (false allegations beforehand), knowing that the story will come out.  He wants to taint the story, and thus get the jump on truth.

It's an advanced exercise in oratory, logic and mass psychology, most likely crafted in Russian laboratories (such as the notorious Internet Research Association (IRA), in St. Petersburg).  Trump, only a puppet (but an important one), is being directed by Vladimir Putin, former head of the KGB in Soviet days...who likely finances and controls such laboratories.

The beginning of the story is found in, Harding, Luke, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017); that story is subsequently picked up in vol. II, of the official Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election, where no less than ten incidents or scenarios are thoroughly investigated.

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Post by Maddog Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:55 pm

Trump won in 2016 and people claimed fraud.
Biden won in 2020 and different people claimed fraud.

Unfortunately, these two groups of people, while equally ignorant, represent the majority in the US and I'm stuck with their nonsense.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:03 pm

Maddog wrote:Trump won in 2016 and people claimed fraud.
Biden won in 2020 and different people claimed fraud.  

Unfortunately, these two groups of people, while equally ignorant, represent the majority in the US and I'm stuck with their  nonsense.  

False equivalency.

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Post by Maddog Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:14 pm

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Maddog wrote:Trump won in 2016 and people claimed fraud.
Biden won in 2020 and different people claimed fraud.  

Unfortunately, these two groups of people, while equally ignorant, represent the majority in the US and I'm stuck with their  nonsense.  

False equivalency.

That's because you are one of the ignorant group members I'm talking about.

Like 6 years olds in the back seat of a car. "I didn't do it, Sally did".
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Post by JulesV Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:33 pm

As for "Draining the swamp"?   Shocked  You're kidding me?


He packed the swamp chockablock with greedy stinking pigs pig pig pig   -standing room only!  They had only their own self interest at heart.


The best example is this hog - an avaricious Billionairess who did nothing for the local people,  except grow rich & fat on the back of the biggest tragedy to hit America  - the global pandemic.

As a politician  she had unlimited access to inside information of course, and she used this information to make instant decisions about buying and selling stocks and literally made tens of millions overnight.

Everytime there was a secret gov't meeting to discuss decisions about the pandemic - such as new contracts for medical supplies, or lockdown of local businesses - she reacted by making immediate changes to her empire.


Slime ! > >


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Post by Maddog Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:42 pm

JulesV wrote:As for "Draining the swamp"?   Shocked  You're kidding me?


He packed the swamp chockablock with greedy stinking pigs  pig pig pig   -standing room only!  They had only their own self interest at heart.


The best example is this hog - an avaricious Billionairess who did nothing for the local people,  except grow rich & fat on the back of the biggest tragedy to hit America  - the global pandemic.

As a politician  she had unlimited access to inside information of course, and she used this information to make instant decisions about buying and selling stocks and literally made tens of millions overnight.

Everytime there was a secret gov't meeting to discuss decisions about the pandemic - such as new contracts for medical supplies, or lockdown of local businesses - she reacted by making immediate changes to her empire.


Slime ! > >


Yeah, well he lost. Cool
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:54 pm

The Senate races in Georgia are still going.

Los Angeles Times wrote:As a rare duo runoff election for two Senate seats unfolds in Georgia, Warnock and Ossoff have essentially become running mates, their fates tied together as they try to persuade voters to send them — not the two Republican incumbent Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler — to Washington.

Both Perdue and Loeffler are being investigated for insider trading.

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