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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:35 pm

The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

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Post by inmyopinion on Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:54 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

wow fancy quoting a paper that was founded on money from a slave trader.
Besides that i'm sure all the looted shops, killed people, smashed up property, terrified locals, mainly whites, are all very happy that it is only 1 in 10 who are causing the trouble.
less than 1 in 10 people are murderers, rapist or peado's so perhaps we should ignore them too.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:25 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

Where's the lie?

I've never seen anyone claim what percentage of these protests became violent

And this is sort of subjective. How do you judge what peaceful is?

Is like to know if the protests in Ft Worth were considered peaceful.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:29 pm

While I accept the fact that we have a police problem in this country, it's no consolation that 93% of arrests go off without anyone being harmed.

I'm thinking the widow and children of Daniel Shaver feel the same.

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Post by Didgee on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:39 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

Can you break down the statistical claim on this claim with figures and events?

There has been over a hundred days of protesting in Portland, where evidence shows that every single one resolved in some kind of violence

So what are their measures for what is violence?

How did they calculate what protests had violence?

How many protests that occurred?

I look forward to your response with data, as the link to the study never actually states how they came to this figure

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:23 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.

But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.

And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

I know. They are disrupters, who hang around and look for an opportunity to break the law. A sizable portion of them are RW'ers, like the Boogaloo Boys, attempting to accelerate a race war.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:58 pm

So I'm hearing, "why should the fact that the vast majority of BLM demonstrations are peaceful prevent me from calling it a violent, destructive movement?"

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Post by Maddog on Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:25 am

Ben Reilly wrote:So I'm hearing, "why should the fact that the vast majority of BLM demonstrations are peaceful prevent me from calling it a violent, destructive movement?"

Because the 10% that is destructive has torn up a great deal of other people's stuff.

It's like saying 90% of the Klan marches were peaceful. Pay no mind to the occasional church blown to bits.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:50 am

That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:57 am

Ben Reilly wrote:That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.
Again I am sure the owners of the stores, homes and individuals who have suffered loss, damage and harm are relieved it is such a small number but I doubt it.

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Post by Maddog on Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:33 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.

"Hey y'all, quit your bitching. 99,9% of y'all are arrested without incident".

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:21 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.

"Hey y'all, quit your bitching. 99,9% of y'all are arrested without incident".

Those are the RW Boogaloo Boys...and yes, the murderers are in custody.

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Post by Maddog on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:42 pm

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"Hey y'all, quit your bitching. 99,9% of y'all are arrested without incident".

Those are the RW Boogaloo Boys...and yes, the murderers are in custody.

No, that's what the blue lives matter crowd says. And yiu don't buy into it, nor should you. 1000 deaths in 10 million arrests is still too many.

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Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Those are the RW Boogaloo Boys...and yes, the murderers are in custody.

No, that's what the blue lives matter crowd says. And yiu don't buy into it, nor should you. 1000 deaths in 10 million arrests is still too many.  

The RW Boogaloo Boys are the only ones I know that have a platform of killing cops. More than 9 out of 10 Black Lives Matter demonstrations involved no violence or property crime, showing the right up as liars 2190311264

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Post by Maddog on Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 am

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Maddog wrote:

No, that's what the blue lives matter crowd says. And yiu don't buy into it, nor should you. 1000 deaths in 10 million arrests is still too many.  

The RW Boogaloo Boys are the only ones I know that have a platform of killing cops.  More than 9 out of 10 Black Lives Matter demonstrations involved no violence or property crime, showing the right up as liars 2190311264

We're talking about people killed by cops.

Focus dumbass.

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Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The RW Boogaloo Boys are the only ones I know that have a platform of killing cops.  More than 9 out of 10 Black Lives Matter demonstrations involved no violence or property crime, showing the right up as liars 2190311264

We're talking about people killed by cops.  

Focus dumbass.

But it's a small step to people who kill cops. Wink

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Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

We're talking about people killed by cops.  

Focus dumbass.

But it's a small step to people who kill cops. Wink

Focus.,

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:17 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

But it's a small step to people who kill cops. Wink

Focus.,

Foc-yer-selves.  I'm busy.

Wink

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:30 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.
Again I am sure the owners of the stores, homes and individuals who have suffered loss, damage and harm are relieved it is such a small number but I doubt it.

So let me teach you something - you can't be sure of something that you doubt.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:34 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:That's actually less than 7 percent. Not 10 percent.

And the study made no distinction between rallies in which violence or destruction was caused by BLM supporters and those in which it was caused by outside provacateurs.

"Hey y'all, quit your bitching. 99,9% of y'all are arrested without incident".

When 99.99999 percent of white people are arrested without incident, but only 99.9 percent of black people, they have something to complain about.

Stop moving the goalposts. This topic is about whether it's fair to call BLM a violent, destructive movement when so little violence or destruction is happening at its rallies. And I'm sure you already knew that.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:02 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Maddog wrote:

"Hey y'all, quit your bitching. 99,9% of y'all are arrested without incident".

When 99.99999 percent of white people are arrested without incident, but only 99.9 percent of black people, they have something to complain about.

Stop moving the goalposts. This topic is about whether it's fair to call BLM a violent, destructive movement when so little violence or destruction is happening at its rallies. And I'm sure you already knew that.

Is it fair to the 7% (assuming that figure isn't just pulled out of someone's ass) to call their marches non violent?

So 93% non violence at marches is success, but 99.99 during arrests isn't?

I compare and contrast absent bias to form opinions. It's what I do. Sorry.

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There are 10 million AR-15 type weapons in the US. 99.9% are never used in violence. Cant see why Joe would want to try and ban them.

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Maddog wrote:There are 10 million AR-15 type weapons in the US.  99.9% are never used in violence. Cant see why Joe would want to try and ban them.  

But enough of them are used in violence. And when they are, it's usually final.

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Maddog wrote:
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When 99.99999 percent of white people are arrested without incident, but only 99.9 percent of black people, they have something to complain about.

Stop moving the goalposts. This topic is about whether it's fair to call BLM a violent, destructive movement when so little violence or destruction is happening at its rallies. And I'm sure you already knew that.

Is it fair to the 7% (assuming that figure isn't just pulled out of someone's ass) to call their marches non violent?

Marches are not people, they are events. Most participants are well behaved. As with any group (southerners?) you find some lawbreakers. Those are as much a nuisance to the law-abiding marcher as to any by-stander or non-participant.

Police waste time and resources arresting by-standers and on-lookers (only to see them walk an hour later), when they should spend their money finding ways to focus on the lawbreakers.

There wouldn't be any talk about defunding the police, if they spent the money wisely.

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Post by inmyopinion on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:32 pm

Maddog wrote:There are 10 million AR-15 type weapons in the US.  99.9% are never used in violence. Cant see why Joe would want to try and ban them.  

they just want to disarm the public so they have control.
It's funny how when only a tiny percentage of blm members are violent we should not judge them all but we must disarm everyone because of a few idiots.

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Maddog wrote:There are 10 million AR-15 type weapons in the US.  99.9% are never used in violence. Cant see why Joe would want to try and ban them.  

But enough of them are used in violence.  And when they are, it's usually final.

Less than 7% so don't worry about them. They aren't a problem.

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Maddog wrote:
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But enough of them are used in violence.  And when they are, it's usually final.

Less than 7% so don't worry about them. They aren't a problem.  

Tell that to the dead people...start with their family.

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Post by inmyopinion on Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:00 pm

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Maddog wrote:

Less than 7% so don't worry about them. They aren't a problem.  

Tell that to the dead people...start with their family.

we should ban fast food, it kills more people.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:01 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Less than 7% so don't worry about them. They aren't a problem.  

Tell that to the dead people...start with their family.

And tell the 7% who lost a building or business, to get over it.

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