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Post by Brutus on Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

Cummings just appointed Andrew Sabisky as deputy prime minister, following a recruitment drive for 'weird' candidates.
Sabisky is certainly weird.
Claims blacks have a lower IQ than whites and pubescent girls should have compulsory contraception.
Women  athletes are similar to paralympians.
He advocates eugenics. (Look it up)
He has a bucket load more bizarre policies, awaiting Prime Minister Cummings approval.
Looks like he is a bit of beserk far right winger.
Read about it here.

No 10 refuses to comment on PM's views of racial IQ

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/no-10-refuses-to-comment-on-pms-views-of-racial-iq?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:37 pm



The results are by countries... Not races...


Stop waffling!



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Post by Original Quill on Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The results are by countries... Not races...

Stop waffling!

Where do you think races come from?

Tom, you're not clever enough to play coy.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:27 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

The results are by countries... Not races...

Stop waffling!

Where do you think races come from?

Tom, you're not clever enough to play coy.


But... "we're all the same"... aren't we...!?


And the results show Oriental countries scoring higher than white European countries... So... Am I being racist and/or anti white European by telling this truth...!?



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Post by Original Quill on Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:58 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Where do you think races come from?

Tom, you're not clever enough to play coy.

But... "we're all the same"... aren't we...!?

Normatively? Or, factually?

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:42 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Where do you think races come from?

Tom, you're not clever enough to play coy.


But... "we're all the same"... aren't we...!?


And the results show Oriental countries scoring higher than white European countries... So... Am I being racist and/or anti white European by telling this truth...!?



Flawed argument for a number of reasons reasons

First of all its the average by countries. Where many countries hold different ethnic groups

Second, there is 7 Asian countries in the top ten and 25 European countries in the top 10

Third within this top 10 is a variance of only ten

Fourth the actual highest ethnic groups are the Jews and Chinese

Fifth the levels of IQ have been consistently rising at a rate higher in third world countries than in the developed countries year by year. In other words, many countries that are developing are coming to an equal level of IQ with the rest of the world that is developed. They are not quite there yet, but as seen with more access to education. It significantly raises the level of IQ

Most of all, being as we know there is only one biological race. None of this can be down to factors of race. This is even more clear when you look back in the past at how even in the west and Asia, the average levels of IQ were lower. They have risen higher through the countries development over time and will continue to rise over many years

At the end of the day IQ is not a good indicator of intelligence. All this shows is where there is a tradition of parents instilling a belief in children to work and excel. The number is ever so slightly higher

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:50 am

Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


But... "we're all the same"... aren't we...!?


And the results show Oriental countries scoring higher than white European countries... So... Am I being racist and/or anti white European by telling this truth...!?



Flawed argument for a number of reasons reasons

First of all its the average by countries. Where many countries hold different ethnic groups

Second, there is 7 Asian countries in the top ten and 25 European countries in the top 10

Third within this top 10 is a variance of only ten

Fourth the actual highest ethnic groups are the Jews and Chinese

Fifth the levels of IQ have been consistently rising at a rate higher in third world countries than in the developed countries year by year. In other words, many countries that are developing are coming to an equal level of IQ with the rest of the world that is developed. They are not quite there yet, but as seen with more access to education. It significantly raises the level of IQ

Most of all, being as we know there is only one biological race. None of this can be down to factors of race. This is even more clear when you look back in the past at how even in the west and Asia, the average levels of IQ were lower. They have risen higher through the countries development over time and will continue to rise over many years

At the end of the day IQ is not a good indicator of intelligence. All this shows is where there is a tradition of parents instilling a belief in children to work and excel. The number is ever so slightly higher




So... that's 32 countries in the top 10 then...!?


What a twat!!!


lol!



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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:15 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Flawed argument for a number of reasons reasons

First of all its the average by countries. Where many countries hold different ethnic groups

Second, there is 7 Asian countries in the top ten and 25 European countries in the top 10

Third within this top 10 is a variance of only ten

Fourth the actual highest ethnic groups are the Jews and Chinese

Fifth the levels of IQ have been consistently rising at a rate higher in third world countries than in the developed countries year by year. In other words, many countries that are developing are coming to an equal level of IQ with the rest of the world that is developed. They are not quite there yet, but as seen with more access to education. It significantly raises the level of IQ

Most of all, being as we know there is only one biological race. None of this can be down to factors of race. This is even more clear when you look back in the past at how even in the west and Asia, the average levels of IQ were lower. They have risen higher through the countries development over time and will continue to rise over many years

At the end of the day IQ is not a good indicator of intelligence. All this shows is where there is a tradition of parents instilling a belief in children to work and excel. The number is ever so slightly higher




So... that's 32 countries in the top 10 then...!?


What a twat!!!


lol!



Really, did you not go off Asian compared to European?

Tommy Monk wrote:
But... "we're all the same"... aren't we...!?
And the results show Oriental countries scoring higher than white European countries... So... Am I being racist and/or anti white European by telling this truth...!?



Nice attempt playing a bluff hand Tommy

I easily saw though it and I see you avoided every point made and just come back with insults. After being weighed, measured and left found wanting

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:01 am

So there's 7 Asian countries in the top 10 and 25 European countries in the top 10...!!!???


That's 32 countries you bell end!!!


How can you have 32 countries in top 10 you idiot!!!???



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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So there's 7 Asian countries in the top 10 and 25 European countries in the top 10...!!!???


That's 32 countries you bell end!!!


How can you have 32 countries in top 10 you idiot!!!???



Yes 32 countries ranked in the top ten

lol would you like me to show you why?

Or would you like to check and see yourself before I embarrass you yet again?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:34 pm

Top ten is... Er... 10 you dumb ass!!!

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:12 pm

Rank:

1: Hong Kong 
IQ Average:  108

1: Singapore
IQ Average:  108

Would you look at that, two countries ranked number 1.

Why do you think that is Tommy?

Or would you like me to dumb this down for you?

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:14 pm

5 European countries are ranked at 7, with the same average IQ of 100.

They are the UK, Austria, Luxemburg, Netherlands and Norway

This is of course using your link Tommy

https://new-iq-test.com/iq-by-country/

Doh

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:41 pm



So... now you think the IQ averages scorse per country are correct...!?


What do you think about all the countries with low average scores...?


There are 30 countries shown with average IQ of 70 and under...!


I found this quote about low IQ...


"An IQ under 70 represents the score of a person with an intellectual disability. At 65, a person generally will need various kinds of support during their lifetime. In the US, there are group homes where such people can live relatively independently. This is a great thing for all involved."






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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:46 pm

And...


"The vast majority of people in the United States have I.Q.s between 80 and 120, with an I.Q. of 100 considered average. To be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an I.Q. below 70-75, i.e. significantly below average. If a person scores below 70 on a properly administered and scored I.Q."



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Post by Brutus on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:02 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:And...


"The vast majority of people in the United States have I.Q.s between 80 and 120, with an I.Q. of 100 considered average. To be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an I.Q. below 70-75, i.e. significantly below average. If a person scores below 70 on a properly administered and scored I.Q."



You have just provided first hand evidence that people such as yourself with an IQ lower than 80 can still read and write, albeit most of it hogwash , fake news and gobbledygook.
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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:06 pm

So Tommy, where is Sierra Leone, what color are its people, and how could they be as smart as Lithuanians (and a point behind the Irish) if your racialist theory is correct?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:13 pm

Brutus wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:And...


"The vast majority of people in the United States have I.Q.s between 80 and 120, with an I.Q. of 100 considered average. To be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an I.Q. below 70-75, i.e. significantly below average. If a person scores below 70 on a properly administered and scored I.Q."



You have just provided first hand evidence that people such as yourself with an IQ lower than 80 can still read and write, albeit most of it hogwash , fake news and gobbledygook.


I scored 140 actually...



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Post by Original Quill on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:15 pm

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:30 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:So Tommy, where is Sierra Leone, what color are its people, and how could they be as smart as Lithuanians (and a point behind the Irish) if your racialist theory is correct?



I have read that the Sierra Leone figure is considered to be fudged by some bloke called Richard Lynn. . and incorrect...


Other studies suggest that the true average IQ figure is much lower...



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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:32 pm

Kenya and Nigeria are fairly up there as well, I suppose all the figures are fudged? There's no actually intelligent black person in the world, eh?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:36 pm

Eritrea, too. Smarter than light-skinned Algerians, on average. HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?????????????

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:54 pm

Also, if the Sierra Leone data was fudged, it's highly doubtful that it was done so by Lynn. I'd forgotten his name, but I just refreshed my memory, and he is one of those racialists who believes that the smartest races are East Asian, followed by Europeans, and all other races are of subpar intelligence.

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Post by eddie on Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:55 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:So Tommy, where is Sierra Leone, what color are its people, and how could they be as smart as Lithuanians (and a point behind the Irish) if your racialist theory is correct?



I have read that the Sierra Leone figure is considered to be fudged by some bloke called Richard Lynn. . and incorrect...


Other studies suggest that the true average IQ figure is much lower...



So the study you provided has a false report, a “fudged figure”, yet you are posting the study as correct?

Jesus. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

So... now you think the IQ averages scorse per country are correct...!?

What do you think about all the countries with low average scores...?

There are 30 countries shown with average IQ of 70 and under...!

I found this quote about low IQ...

"An IQ under 70 represents the score of a person with an intellectual disability. At 65, a person generally will need various kinds of support during their lifetime. In the US, there are group homes where such people can live relatively independently. This is a great thing for all involved."






Where did I ever state they were correct?

I went off your link and as seen you could not admit your error it seems

As to your questions, thy were answered in my first reply to you

Here they are again

Flawed argument for a number of reasons reasons

First of all its the average by countries. Where many countries hold different ethnic groups

Second, there is 7 Asian countries in the top ten and 25 European countries in the top 10

Third within this top 10 is a variance of only ten

Fourth the actual highest ethnic groups are the Jews and Chinese

Fifth the levels of IQ have been consistently rising at a rate higher in third world countries than in the developed countries year by year. In other words, many countries that are developing are coming to an equal level of IQ with the rest of the world that is developed. They are not quite there yet, but as seen with more access to education. It significantly raises the level of IQ

Most of all, being as we know there is only one biological race. None of this can be down to factors of race. This is even more clear when you look back in the past at how even in the west and Asia, the average levels of IQ were lower. They have risen higher through the countries development over time and will continue to rise over many years

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:11 pm

Thanks, Didge. As common sense dictates, if the races were that different, we wouldn't be able to interbreed, or mixed-race children would show weaknesses that children of one race would not.

In fact, mixed-race people often are above average in health, suggesting that mixing genes from diverse populations is a good thing. Scientists have suggested that we may even be attracted to accents different from our own in part because it's a signal that the person has genes that are quite different from our own.

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:14 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Thanks, Didge. As common sense dictates, if the races were that different, we wouldn't be able to interbreed, or mixed-race children would show weaknesses that children of one race would not.

In fact, mixed-race people often are above average in health, suggesting that mixing genes from diverse populations is a good thing. Scientists have suggested that we may even be attracted to accents different from our own in part because it's a signal that the person has genes that are quite different from our own.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:58 pm



The Sierra Leone figure quoted in that list is widely disputed... the average IQ for Sierra Leone is widely believed to be around 64... And Nigeria 69...


And I notice that didge says "Jews" are scored high... but maybe he just means Israel which is about 75% Jewish population...



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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:29 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The Sierra Leone figure quoted in that list is widely disputed... the average IQ for Sierra Leone is widely believed to be around 64... And Nigeria 69...


And I notice that didge says "Jews" are scored high... but maybe he just means Israel which is about 75% Jewish population...



So again, as eddie said, you're basing your argument on a list that you don't even trust. So ... ?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:30 pm

Also, as an aside, you come across as having done an awful lot of research into the average IQs of African nations, which strikes me as a bit weird (and telling).

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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:38 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The Sierra Leone figure quoted in that list is widely disputed... the average IQ for Sierra Leone is widely believed to be around 64... And Nigeria 69...


And I notice that didge says "Jews" are scored high... but maybe he just means Israel which is about 75% Jewish population...



I mean Ashkenazi Jews, one of several ethnic Jewish groups who live globally. Israel is made up of a number of ethnic Jewish groups

Studies show the average IQ ranges between 107 and 115. The lowest range 107 is only one below those ranked 1 on your link.


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Post by Thorin on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:40 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

The Sierra Leone figure quoted in that list is widely disputed... the average IQ for Sierra Leone is widely believed to be around 64... And Nigeria 69...


And I notice that didge says "Jews" are scored high... but maybe he just means Israel which is about 75% Jewish population...



So again, as eddie said, you're basing your argument on a list that you don't even trust. So ... ?

Indeed, kind of odd to use really

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Post by eddie on Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:58 pm

Thorin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

The Sierra Leone figure quoted in that list is widely disputed... the average IQ for Sierra Leone is widely believed to be around 64... And Nigeria 69...


And I notice that didge says "Jews" are scored high... but maybe he just means Israel which is about 75% Jewish population...



So again, as eddie said, you're basing your argument on a list that you don't even trust. So ... ?

Indeed, kind of odd to use really

Yeah really.

“Here’s a study to prove my point but part of the study is false”.

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Post by Maddog on Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:09 pm

Texans have a higher IQ than the other 49 states. Especially when Ben is in the UK. Shocked



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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:05 am






I have merely posted up some of the data/info that there is on average IQ by country...


I haven't actually made any posts about my personal opinion on any of it...


But it has been interesting... and most amusing... to see the lengths some will go in order to uphold the lefty politically correct agenda driven line on it all... and refusal to acknowledge even the slightest possibility of any black countries having low iq, while having no problem with seeming to accept the findings of Oriental and white European countries having high IQ averages...



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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:42 am

Tommy Monk wrote:I have merely posted up some of the data/info that there is on average IQ by country...

I haven't actually made any posts about my personal opinion on any of it...

But it has been interesting... and most amusing... to see the lengths some will go in order to uphold the lefty politically correct agenda driven line on it all... and refusal to acknowledge even the slightest possibility of any black countries having low iq, while having no problem with seeming to accept the findings of Oriental and white European countries having high IQ averages...

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:42 am

Start a thread and I'll post something there...



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