Missouri mulls law to require parents to be notified before their kids are taught evolution

by Ben Reilly Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:11 am

First topic message reminder :

Reeks of insecurity in one's beliefs to me:

In what may be the first of its kind, a proposed bill in Missouri would require that parents be notified when evolution is being taught to their children at school. They could then pull them from the class. Critics say the bill would "eviscerate" the teaching of biology.

The bill is being sponsored by State Rep. Rick Brattin (R), and it had its first public hearing on February 13th, 2014. Though many anti-evolution proposals are currently being considered across the United States, this one appears to be the only bill — and perhaps the first — that actually mandates parental notification when evolution is being taught to their children.

http://io9.com/missouri-bill-would-have-parents-alerted-when-evolution-1526816104

by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:56 pm

says the amoeba looking at the fish........

by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:00 pm

victorismyhero wrote:says the amoeba looking at the fish........

hey if you see yourself as an amoeba go ahead but i think it's getting a long way ahead of yourself.... Smile

by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:04 pm

no i rather see you as the amoeba HF...YOURS is the small world....there are a lot less of "you" than there are of "us"

by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:05 pm

victorismyhero wrote:no i rather see you as the amoeba HF...YOURS is the small world....there are a lot less of "you" than there are of "us"

lol there is only one of me, are you referring to id's or something else.. Smile

by veya_victaous Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:50 pm

victorismyhero wrote:no i rather see you as the amoeba HF...YOURS is the small world....there are a lot less of "you" than there are of "us"

Yes, thankfully most of us are against punching babies in the head Unlike the Evil HF and his little band of violent terrorist worshipping Monotheists.
Anyone that would wilfully teach lies is evil. Jesus didn’t know any better (it is like 2000 years ago) but to continue to Lie in the face of knowledge is not only stupid but evil and it holds our species back.

by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:53 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:no i rather see you as the amoeba HF...YOURS is the small world....there are a lot less of "you" than there are of "us"

Yes, thankfully most of us are against punching babies in the head Unlike the Evil HF and his little band of violent terrorist worshipping Monotheists.
Anyone that would wilfully teach lies is evil. Jesus didn’t know any better (it is like 2000 years ago) but to continue to Lie in the face of knowledge is not only stupid but evil and it holds our species back.

ok not only have you lost the plot, i'm not sure you have ever been anywhere near it..lol Smile

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:11 am

@HF
people that want to teach fairy tales as fact hold back the species. You want to have people that believe a magic sky giant made everything and Deny the Multiple sources Evidence of Evolution, that is needed for the vast majority of our medication to work.

You may as well be punching babies in the head father. In the world when your magic sky giant ruled

mortality of the children was very high: 15-20% in first year and 30% to the age of 20 years

http://www.medievaltimes.info/medieval-life-and-society/children-in-the-middle-ages/
In the world where Science is Accepted as the source of truth, a Secular nation like Australia has an infant mortality rate of 0.4%
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/mortality-rate-infant-per-1-000-live-births-wb-data.html

SO Science and the study of evolution saves 29 out of 30 babies that God would let die. SO People like you that want to stop Sciences progress and take us back to when God killed all these babies are Monsters. So to compare your position to Punching babies in the head is being generous because you actually want over 30 times the amount of babies to die before they reach 1 year old.

And Jesus was nailed to a cross for being a Terrorist with ARMED followers. And I doubt he forgives people that are so fond of dead babies they perpetuate a Lies. Regardless of what the Mortals in your Church tell you.

by Guest Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:14 am

veya_victaous wrote:@HF
people that want to teach fairy tales as fact hold back the species. You want to have people that believe a magic sky giant made everything and Deny the Multiple sources Evidence of Evolution, that is needed for the vast majority of our medication to work.

You may as well be punching babies in the head father. In the world when your magic sky giant ruled
mortality of the children was very high: 15-20% in first year and 30% to the age of 20 years
http://www.medievaltimes.info/medieval-life-and-society/children-in-the-middle-ages/
In the world where Science is Accepted as the source of truth, a Secular nation like Australia has an infant mortality rate of 0.4%
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/mortality-rate-infant-per-1-000-live-births-wb-data.html

SO Science and the study of evolution saves 29 out of 30 babies that God would let die. SO People like you that want to stop Sciences progress and take us back to when God killed all these babies are Monsters. So to compare your position to Punching babies in the head is being generous because you actually want over 30 times the amount of babies to die before they reach 1 year old.

And Jesus was nailed to a cross for being a Terrorist with ARMED followers. And I doubt he forgives people that are so fond of dead babies they perpetuate a Lies. Regardless of what the Mortals in your Church tell you.

if evolution is your choice of religion carry on, if you want to trust what men have guessed good for you... Smile

by Guest Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:29 pm

heaveniy father wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:idiot, you know damn well what i mean....

I never know what you mean, you seem to have your own little world...

://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/:

by Eilzel Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:55 pm

heaveniy father wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:@HF
people that want to teach fairy tales as fact hold back the species. You want to have people that believe a magic sky giant made everything and Deny the Multiple sources Evidence of Evolution, that is needed for the vast majority of our medication to work.

You may as well be punching babies in the head father. In the world when your magic sky giant ruled

http://www.medievaltimes.info/medieval-life-and-society/children-in-the-middle-ages/
In the world where Science is Accepted as the source of truth, a Secular nation like Australia has an infant mortality rate of 0.4%
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/mortality-rate-infant-per-1-000-live-births-wb-data.html

SO Science and the study of evolution saves 29 out of 30 babies that God would let die. SO People like you that want to stop Sciences progress and take us back to when God killed all these babies are Monsters. So to compare your position to Punching babies in the head is being generous because you actually want over 30 times the amount of babies to die before they reach 1 year old.

And Jesus was nailed to a cross for being a Terrorist with ARMED followers. And I doubt he forgives people that are so fond of dead babies they perpetuate a Lies. Regardless of what the Mortals in your Church tell you.

if evolution is your choice of religion carry on, if you want to trust what men have guessed good for you...

Evolution is not a religion; unless you can explain exactly how it is, I'll assume you are just a nonesense spouting idiot.

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:27 pm

@HF
Evolution is not a religion
BUT if it was it has already cured More Diseases than God
It saves more people every year through direct intervention than god has every saved through direct intervention.

Vaccines Derived from the Theory of evolution Save Apporx. per year:
Smallpox 5.0 million
Diphtheria 223,000
Whooping cough 630,000
Measles 1.6 million
Neonatal tetanus 0.7 million
Hepatitis B 0.4 million
Tuberculosis 0.2 million
Polio (cases of lifelong paralysis) 550,000

by Ben Reilly Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:40 pm

veya_victaous wrote:@HF
Evolution is not a religion
BUT if it was it has already cured More Diseases than God
It saves more people every year through direct intervention than god has every saved through direct intervention.

Vaccines Derived from the Theory of evolution Save Apporx. per year:
Smallpox 5.0 million
Diphtheria 223,000
Whooping cough 630,000
Measles 1.6 million
Neonatal tetanus 0.7 million
Hepatitis B 0.4 million
Tuberculosis 0.2 million
Polio (cases of lifelong paralysis) 550,000

You know how I know evolution is not a religion?

Because if scientists came up with convincing evidence overturning evolution, the people who accept it now would stop accepting it. ::D::

by Guest Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:14 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:@HF
Evolution is not a religion
BUT if it was it has already cured More Diseases than God
It saves more people every year through direct intervention than god has every saved through direct intervention.

Vaccines Derived from the Theory of evolution Save Apporx. per year:
Smallpox 5.0 million
Diphtheria 223,000
Whooping cough 630,000
Measles 1.6 million
Neonatal tetanus 0.7 million
Hepatitis B 0.4 million
Tuberculosis 0.2 million
Polio (cases of lifelong paralysis) 550,000

You know how I know evolution is not a religion?

Because if scientists came up with convincing evidence overturning evolution, the people who accept it now would stop accepting it. ::D::

Do you know how I know evolution is a religion??

Because the scientists who accept it won't ever try to find evidence to overturn it, and they sure as don't accept any challenges to their theories

by Guest Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:20 pm

well said SB it is a religion accepted by faith ..

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:58 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

You know how I know evolution is not a religion?

Because if scientists came up with convincing evidence overturning evolution, the people who accept it now would stop accepting it. ::D::

Do you know how I know evolution is a religion??

Because the scientists who accept it won't ever try to find evidence to overturn it, and they sure as don't accept any challenges to their theories

Yes they do, there has been numerous shifts in the specific of DNA function (part of Evolutionary theory) the Ideas are still evolving but the Stuff you are denying we are 99.9999% on. Which enzyme causes which effect and how do we manipulate them is where we are at know. You suggestion is slike saying. A Mechanic will never prove cars Cannot ever Drive. Obviously he wont he has the tools to fix it and see them drive all the time. So obviosuly Scince is not going to disprove something that is correct and the basis of many working tools that they use everyday. Because we are beyond the point of asking is this right we are now asking how do we use it.... You are Seriously like 50 years behind the times the last decade has seen massive leaps in the TOOLS we use to Manipulate Evolution. to deny it at this point is like denying cars exist.

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:34 am

And what part of evolution encompasses a belief ayatem that expects you to live your life a certain way? What part of evolution involves a supreme being or conciousness that watches over us? What part of evolution transcends the natural world? What part of evolution helps comfort you with answers to the question of life after death?

Evolution isn't religion. If all that religion is is faith then someone who has 'faith' in their partner is therefore religious? Those who have faith in winning the lottery are following some religion we have 't named yet? And how many people are folliwing some divine concept when they say, "I believe I cam get this job!"

Evolution is not a religion.

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:37 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Do you know how I know evolution is a religion??

Because the scientists who accept it won't ever try to find evidence to overturn it, and they sure as don't accept any challenges to their theories

Yes they do, there has been numerous shifts in the specific of DNA function (part of Evolutionary theory) the Ideas are still evolving but the Stuff you are denying we are 99.9999% on. Which enzyme causes which effect and how do we manipulate them is where we are at know. You suggestion is slike saying. A Mechanic will never prove cars Cannot ever Drive. Obviously he wont he has the tools to fix it and see them drive all the time. So obviosuly Scince is not going to disprove something that is correct and the basis of many working tools that they use everyday. Because we are beyond the point of asking is this right we are now asking how do we use it.... You are Seriously like 50 years behind the times the last decade has seen massive leaps in the TOOLS we use to Manipulate Evolution. to deny it at this point is like denying cars exist.

99.99999% isn't 100% is it??

so you're basing your BELIEF on FAITH

when you have 100% we can talk about disproving gods existence, until then you're following a pipe dream like the rest of us

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:41 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

Yes they do, there has been numerous shifts in the specific of DNA function (part of Evolutionary theory) the Ideas are still evolving but the Stuff you are denying we are 99.9999% on. Which enzyme causes which effect and how do we manipulate them is where we are at know. You suggestion is slike saying. A Mechanic will never prove cars Cannot ever Drive. Obviously he wont he has the tools to fix it and see them drive all the time. So obviosuly Scince is not going to disprove something that is correct and the basis of many working tools that they use everyday. Because we are beyond the point of asking is this right we are now asking how do we use it.... You are Seriously like 50 years behind the times the last decade has seen massive leaps in the TOOLS we use to Manipulate Evolution. to deny it at this point is like denying cars exist.

99.99999% isn't 100% is it??

so you're basing your BELIEF on FAITH

when you have 100% we can talk about disproving gods existence, until then you're following a pipe dream like the rest of us

Why do you need evolution to be right to only debate the existence of a deity?

You do not, evolution is just a theory on how life has evolved, you can still argue against the concept of the religious clearly defined deities in the works as flawed, a contradiction, illogical etc. I never knew you had to prove evolution just to disprove a clearly defined deity now, maybe you can explain why you do?

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:58 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

99.99999% isn't 100% is it??

so you're basing your BELIEF on FAITH

when you have 100% we can talk about disproving gods existence, until then you're following a pipe dream like the rest of us

Why do you need evolution to be right to only debate the existence of a deity?

You do not, evolution is just a theory on how life has evolved, you can still argue against the concept of the religious clearly defined deities in the works as flawed, a contradiction, illogical etc. I never knew you had to prove evolution just to disprove a clearly defined deity now, maybe you can explain why you do?

the topic is about being allowed to opt out of evolution lessons, to be honest i think you should be able too...evolution is just about human evolution really well it was...

evolution is clearly flawed yet reinvents itself...

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:06 pm

heavenly father wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Why do you need evolution to be right to only debate the existence of a deity?

You do not, evolution is just a theory on how life has evolved, you can still argue against the concept of the religious clearly defined deities in the works as flawed, a contradiction, illogical etc. I never knew you had to prove evolution just to disprove a clearly defined deity now, maybe you can explain why you do?

the topic is about being allowed to opt out of evolution lessons, to be honest i think you should be able too...evolution is just about human evolution really well it was...

evolution is clearly flawed yet reinvents itself...

Why should they be able to opt out learning a theory? That shows they are scared of that theory, as what harm is there in learning that theory as much as teaching religions in school?

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:16 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

the topic is about being allowed to opt out of evolution lessons, to be honest i think you should be able too...evolution is just about human evolution really well it was...

evolution is clearly flawed yet reinvents itself...

Why should they be able to opt out learning a theory? That shows they are scared of that theory, as what harm is there in learning that theory as much as teaching religions in school?

so why can religion be opted out of...?? are they scared of religion, why not teach creationism in science when talking about the planet and life are they scared of teaching that??

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:28 pm

heavenly father wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Why should they be able to opt out learning a theory? That shows they are scared of that theory, as what harm is there in learning that theory as much as teaching religions in school?

so why can religion be opted out of...?? are they scared of religion, why not teach creationism in science when talking about the planet and life are they scared of teaching that??

Over here is not the case at all, is part of the curriculum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_education_in_primary_and_secondary_education

I think people should learn religion to see the dangers themselves of crack pots who devised idiotic notions about deities.
So again you never answered my points, why opt out of learning a theory on life?
The only reason is because religious hardcore are scared of learning a far better concept to the origins of life, they this fear what is being taught could be right

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:32 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

so why can religion be opted out of...?? are they scared of religion, why not teach creationism in science when talking about the planet and life are they scared of teaching that??

Over here is not the case at all, is part of the curriculum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_education_in_primary_and_secondary_education

I think people should learn religion to see the dangers themselves of crack pots who devised idiotic notions about deities.
So again you never answered my points, why opt out of learning a theory on life?
The only reason is because religious hardcore are scared of learning a far better concept to the origins of life, they this fear what is being taught could be right

that's odd i think the that crack pots should not be allowed to brainwash our kids with unproven notions such as evolution... Smile

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:35 pm

heavenly father wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Over here is not the case at all, is part of the curriculum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_education_in_primary_and_secondary_education

I think people should learn religion to see the dangers themselves of crack pots who devised idiotic notions about deities.
So again you never answered my points, why opt out of learning a theory on life?
The only reason is because religious hardcore are scared of learning a far better concept to the origins of life, they this fear what is being taught could be right

that's odd i think the that crack pots should not be allowed to brainwash our kids with unproven notions such as evolution...

Well being as evolution does not make people kill, how is it crackpot, yet religious balderdash certainly has people kill not only within the works, it even has the deity commit genocide and then people today use this to justify killing themselves.

Sorry did you say crackpot, because that is what religions are

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:38 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

that's odd i think the that crack pots should not be allowed to brainwash our kids with unproven notions such as evolution...

Well being as evolution does not make people kill, how is it crackpot, yet religious balderdash certainly has people kill not only within the works, it even has the deity commit genocide and then people today use this to justify killing themselves.

Sorry did you say crackpot, because that is what religions are

nope crackpots are ones who waste their time teaching kids what is not supportable by facts..but hey thats my opinion...

and does evolution kill, yes it does if it stops people believing... Smile

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:43 pm

heavenly father wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Well being as evolution does not make people kill, how is it crackpot, yet religious balderdash certainly has people kill not only within the works, it even has the deity commit genocide and then people today use this to justify killing themselves.

Sorry did you say crackpot, because that is what religions are

nope crackpots are ones who waste their time teaching kids what is not supportable by facts..but hey thats my opinion...

and does evolution kill, yes it does if it stops people believing...

Hilarious, you just argued that teaching religions is lunacy, as relgiions are not supported by facts

://?roflmao?/:

:/pwn://:

So now teaching evolution kills, how exactly?

DOH

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:55 pm

One topic I never get involved in is religion. A quick look to see what I'm missing confirms I'm doing the right thing.

Utterly ridiculous. Lol

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:56 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:One topic I never get involved in is religion. A quick look to see what I'm missing confirms I'm doing the right thing.

Utterly ridiculous. Lol

Yes your post was utterly ridiculous and pointless to the debate

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:59 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:One topic I never get involved in is religion. A quick look to see what I'm missing confirms I'm doing the right thing.

Utterly ridiculous. Lol

Yes your post was utterly ridiculous and pointless to the debate

Spot on didge, how rude of me.

I'LL join in now.

There is a powerful being watching over us.

No there isn't.

Yes there is and he has angels and performs magic!

Lol

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:05 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Yes your post was utterly ridiculous and pointless to the debate

Spot on didge, how rude of me.

I'LL join in now.

There is a powerful being watching over us.

No there isn't.

Yes there is and he has angels and performs magic!

Lol

Now that me me laugh

lol!

Not as much though as HF saying only crackpots teach things not supported by facts, which is what religion is.

Have to go but this has been fun

Smile

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:06 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Yes your post was utterly ridiculous and pointless to the debate

Spot on didge, how rude of me.

I'LL join in now.

There is a powerful being watching over us.

don't make pointless posts andy that's didge's job...

No there isn't.

Yes there is and he has angels and performs magic!

Lol

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:37 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

the topic is about being allowed to opt out of evolution lessons, to be honest i think you should be able too...evolution is just about human evolution really well it was...

evolution is clearly flawed yet reinvents itself...

Why should they be able to opt out learning a theory? That shows they are scared of that theory, as what harm is there in learning that theory as much as teaching religions in school?

do you believe that children should be taught creationism??

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:49 pm

Ok smelly, we can only be 99.99999% sure of many things but we don't say that we have 'faith' Henry VIII had Anne Boleyn executed (you weren't THERE) or that Muslim extremists were responsible for 9/11 (there are other theories) or that man walked on the moon (again there are conspiracy claims)- we don't say with have 'faith' all the above are true because all available evidence says they are; we know those things are true.

The same is true of evolution. And it STILL wouldn't be a religion since it tocks of none of the boxes of what a religion actually is- however broadly you define religion as a concept.

Religions on the other hand involve inexplicable claims and assertions which are supernatural; further, since all but one religion (or none) MUST be false then it is far more understable a child be taken out of classes teaching what are mostly lies than being denied knowledge of the scientific fact of evolution.

That said I do believe kids should learn about different religions. Firstly so they learn to question them but also to learn to respect the beliefs of others Smile

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:53 pm

Eilzel wrote:Ok smelly, we can only be 99.99999% sure of many things but we don't say that we have 'faith' Henry VIII had Anne Boleyn executed (you weren't THERE) or that Muslim extremists were responsible for 9/11 (there are other theories) or that man walked on the moon (again there are conspiracy claims)- we don't say with have 'faith' all the above are true because all available evidence says they are; we know those things are true.

The same is true of evolution. And it STILL wouldn't be a religion since it tocks of none of the boxes of what a religion actually is- however broadly you define religion as a concept.

Religions on the other hand involve inexplicable claims and assertions which are supernatural; further, since all but one religion (or none) MUST be false then it is far more understable a child be taken out of classes teaching what are mostly lies than being denied knowledge of the scientific fact of evolution.

That said I do believe kids should learn about different religions. Firstly so they learn to question them but also to learn to respect the beliefs of others

of course evolution is a religion you accept it on faith especially those who have no way of testing the theory for themselves.. Smile

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:56 pm

Religion is not just faith; so you are wrong.

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:14 pm

Eilzel wrote:Religion is not just faith; so you are wrong.

the key to religion is faith and you accept evolution in faith... Smile

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:39 pm

heavenly father wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Religion is not just faith; so you are wrong.

the key to religion is faith and you accept evolution in faith...

As I said above, I accept evolution as I accept the fact man has landed on the moon and Islamists were responsible for 9/11- even though I can only be 99.999999% sure of those things.

Do you think it is religious to believe man has landed on the moon?

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:41 pm

evolution is not fact, it is full of blooming great holes, you are accepting it by faith as your religion....

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:57 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

the key to religion is faith and you accept evolution in faith...

As I said above, I accept evolution as I accept the fact man has landed on the moon and Islamists were responsible for 9/11- even though I can only be 99.999999% sure of those things.

Do you think it is religious to believe man has landed on the moon?

You're wrong about 9/11 it wasn't "Islamists" it was Muslims

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:00 pm

heavenly father wrote:evolution is not fact, it is full of blooming great holes, you are accepting it by faith as your religion....

So you do think believing men walked on the moon is like believing in a religion- fucking weird.

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:01 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenly father wrote:evolution is not fact, it is full of blooming great holes, you are accepting it by faith as your religion....

So you do think believing men walked on the moon is like believing in a religion- fucking weird.

lol...your words not mine.. Smile

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:03 pm

heavenly father wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

So you do think believing men walked on the moon is like believing in a religion- fucking weird.

lol...your words not mine..

You didn't respond in a negative- so I can only assume the positive.

And if you just repeat that faith (as in the kind of 'faith' I have man walked on the moon 'ie: certainty based on clear evidence) is religion; then that is what you are saying.

Which is dumb but then I'm not the one scared to answer questions knowing what my answer implies.

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:07 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

lol...your words not mine..

You didn't respond in a negative- so I can only assume the positive.

And if you just repeat that faith (as in the kind of 'faith' I have man walked on the moon 'ie: certainty based on clear evidence) is religion; then that is what you are saying.

Which is dumb but then I'm not the one scared to answer questions knowing what my answer implies.

you stick to your religion of evolution the idea you came from an ape is about right.. Smile

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:10 pm

heavenly father wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

You didn't respond in a negative- so I can only assume the positive.

And if you just repeat that faith (as in the kind of 'faith' I have man walked on the moon 'ie: certainty based on clear evidence) is religion; then that is what you are saying.

Which is dumb but then I'm not the one scared to answer questions knowing what my answer implies.

you stick to your religion of evolution the idea you came from an ape is about right..

Again it isn't a religion unless you also admit the other things I listed are also religions- which unless you are stupider than I give you credit for, you do not.

I will stick to knowing evolution is true however- as do all people of even a shred of intelligence Smile

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:15 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

you stick to your religion of evolution the idea you came from an ape is about right..

Again it isn't a religion unless you also admit the other things I listed are also religions- which unless you are stupider than I give you credit for, you do not.

I will stick to knowing evolution is true however- as do all people of even a shred of intelligence

evolution is your religion you accept it by faith, the only difference is you put your trust in men, mind you that seems to be a life choice for you... Smile

by Eilzel Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:26 pm

heavenly father wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Again it isn't a religion unless you also admit the other things I listed are also religions- which unless you are stupider than I give you credit for, you do not.

I will stick to knowing evolution is true however- as do all people of even a shred of intelligence

evolution is your religion you accept it by faith, the only difference is you put your trust in men, mind you that seems to be a life choice for you...

Hilarious... so you accept those other things as faith too- if you can't answer directly don't worry, I understand, this has got boring anyway.

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:34 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:

Why should they be able to opt out learning a theory? That shows they are scared of that theory, as what harm is there in learning that theory as much as teaching religions in school?

do you believe that children should be taught creationism??

They already are and have been for centuries or were you never taught God created everything?

DOH

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:36 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

As I said above, I accept evolution as I accept the fact man has landed on the moon and Islamists were responsible for 9/11- even though I can only be 99.999999% sure of those things.

Do you think it is religious to believe man has landed on the moon?

You're wrong about 9/11 it wasn't "Islamists" it was Muslims

al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a global militant Islamist and takfiri organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:53 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

do you believe that children should be taught creationism??

They already are and have been for centuries or were you never taught God created everything?

DOH

so you don't have a problem with it?

by Guest Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:55 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

You're wrong about 9/11 it wasn't "Islamists" it was Muslims

al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a global militant Islamist and takfiri organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

was osama bin laden a Muslim??

yes

case closed

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