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Colds, flu and other nasty lurgies...have you had any yet?
I ask because I woke up yesterday feeling like s**t.
I blame sitting in the Dr's waiting room (and it wasnt even me who needed to see him) I swear Dr's waitings rooms and planes are the two best places to catch something horrendous.
I blame sitting in the Dr's waiting room (and it wasnt even me who needed to see him) I swear Dr's waitings rooms and planes are the two best places to catch something horrendous.
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No I won't have a flu jab , my mother won't have one either , every year she has had a flu jab she has been really ill, so the past 2 years she refused and never got sick .
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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:No I won't have a flu jab , my mother won't have one either , every year she has had a flu jab she has been really ill, so the past 2 years she refused and never got sick .
I hear a lot of people say the same, but medics insist the flu jab cant give you flu, it can make you feel unwell though.
I had the jab over a week ago, tbh I dont think it's that that has made me ill....I sat in the Dr's waiting room with someone a couple of days ago and I think I caught something then.
Throat feels like I have swallowed barbed wire, earache and stuffed up nose, plus for some reason my left leg wont work....but thats probably unconnected....I just thought I would mention it now I am on a roll.
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Not had flu in near 5 years now.
I put this down to the yearly flu jabs that I have for over a decade.
I get the odd sniffle cold, but not headache, shivering, feeling weak etc.
Just a runny nose
I put this down to the yearly flu jabs that I have for over a decade.
I get the odd sniffle cold, but not headache, shivering, feeling weak etc.
Just a runny nose
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I think I have only had the flu three times in my life.Didge wrote:Not had flu in near 5 years now.
I put this down to the yearly flu jabs that I have for over a decade.
I get the odd sniffle cold, but not headache, shivering, feeling weak etc.
Just a runny nose
It amuses me when people say they have the flu yet they are going about their daily business.
Flu stops you in your tracks, you literally feel like you are dying and feel so bad you dont even care.
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I think I have only had the flu three times in my life.Didge wrote:Not had flu in near 5 years now.
I put this down to the yearly flu jabs that I have for over a decade.
I get the odd sniffle cold, but not headache, shivering, feeling weak etc.
Just a runny nose
It amuses me when people say they have the flu yet they are going about their daily business.
Flu stops you in your tracks, you literally feel like you are dying and feel so bad you dont even care.
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We had the flu in January it was a bad one we both got bronchitis , took weeks to get over it , but we think it was because we had a very serious traumatic family tragedy , the stress of that was terrible.
I've just got over a really horrible cold virus .
I've just got over a really horrible cold virus .
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Syl wrote:I think I have only had the flu three times in my life.Didge wrote:Not had flu in near 5 years now.
I put this down to the yearly flu jabs that I have for over a decade.
I get the odd sniffle cold, but not headache, shivering, feeling weak etc.
Just a runny nose
It amuses me when people say they have the flu yet they are going about their daily business.
Flu stops you in your tracks, you literally feel like you are dying and feel so bad you dont even care.
They generally just have a cold and not the flu. Its easy to see why people confused them. As they are both respiratory illnesses, but have different causes. Flus are loads worse than colds. So those saying they can handle flu are talking bollocks, as like you say. "liar, liar, pants on fire"
This is why when people have the opportunity to have a flu jab they should do so each year. As flu viruses mutate and having yearly jabs, helps build up ressistance to them. People bemoan having them, as they have a minute dose of the actual virus in them. Its the very purpose to do so, so the body learns to adpat to help deal with said viruses.
If anyone is over 40, or has lung conditions, its a must they should have them Syl
Like I say, its help keep flu at bay for me, for some time now
Happy days
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I agree and hope you stay well Didge.Didge wrote:Syl wrote:
I think I have only had the flu three times in my life.
It amuses me when people say they have the flu yet they are going about their daily business.
Flu stops you in your tracks, you literally feel like you are dying and feel so bad you dont even care.
They generally just have a cold and not the flu. Its easy to see why people confused them. As they are both respiratory illnesses, but have different causes. Flus are loads worse than colds. So those saying they can handle flu are talking bollocks, as like you say. "liar, liar, pants on fire"
This is why when people have the opportunity to have a flu jab they should do so each year. As flu viruses mutate and having yearly jabs, helps build up ressistance to them. People bemoan having them, as they have a minute dose of the actual virus in them. Its the very purpose to do so, so the body learns to adpat to help deal with said viruses.
If anyone is over 40, or has lung conditions, its a must they should have them Syl
Like I say, its help keep flu at bay for me, for some time now
Happy days
I started having the flu jab 20 years ago when I cared for my mum....I have it now because I am entitled to it because of my great age.
I dont think it's ever made me ill....this thing I have now is not caused by the jab, it's just the time of year when lots of horrible germs are doing the rounds.
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Thats the thing that scares me most Vod, when it goes to your chest and turns into bronchitis, that happened to me once and I was off work for over a month, I truly felt like I was dying.Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:We had the flu in January it was a bad one we both got bronchitis , took weeks to get over it , but we think it was because we had a very serious traumatic family tragedy , the stress of that was terrible.
I've just got over a really horrible cold virus .
I'm sorry you had it so rough in January, stress can seriously weaken our bodies and make us susceptible to illness, Good to hear you are feeling better now. x
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Syl wrote:I agree and hope you stay well Didge.Didge wrote:
They generally just have a cold and not the flu. Its easy to see why people confused them. As they are both respiratory illnesses, but have different causes. Flus are loads worse than colds. So those saying they can handle flu are talking bollocks, as like you say. "liar, liar, pants on fire"
This is why when people have the opportunity to have a flu jab they should do so each year. As flu viruses mutate and having yearly jabs, helps build up ressistance to them. People bemoan having them, as they have a minute dose of the actual virus in them. Its the very purpose to do so, so the body learns to adpat to help deal with said viruses.
If anyone is over 40, or has lung conditions, its a must they should have them Syl
Like I say, its help keep flu at bay for me, for some time now
Happy days
I started having the flu jab 20 years ago when I cared for my mum....I have it now because I am entitled to it because of my great age.
I dont think it's ever made me ill....this thing I have now is not caused by the jab, it's just the time of year when lots of horrible germs are doing the rounds.
Maybe you have sadly contracted something near impossible for a woman to contract?
Man flu
Its a severe strain, that makes men, utter whimps and pathetic. With constant whinning and feeling like they are at deaths door...
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Man flue is not permitted now, the correct term is,
Person Flue !
Person Flue !
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Sadly men cannot buy Mansize tissues anymore whether they have man flu or not......tissues now have to be gender neutral.
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nicko wrote:Man flue is not permitted now, the correct term is,
Person Flue !
lol, but in reality, there is some science to this mate
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/evidence-based-living/201801/is-man-flu-real-phenomenon
It seems, women tend to be tougher more on the inside than men
Which I put down to them through the ages having to raise children and being exposed more to these symptoms
It hardened them more and made them more resilient than men to illness. Where no doubt there is some evolutionary bases to this. As its more important that many women survive than men. You only need a few men, to help copulate with women, to help reproduce. The more women around, the more chances, that population will survive.
Pure conjecture, I admit, but there you go
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Anyway....Im going back to bed I feel so rough.
Have a good day all. x
Have a good day all. x
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Syl wrote:Sadly men cannot buy Mansize tissues anymore whether they have man flu or not......tissues now have to be gender neutral.
To be honest that argument on man size is silly to me Syl
Most things come in sizes already, from small, medium, large and extra large
What is man size anywhere?
In height?
Width?
On average men are certainly taller and broader, and its a real biological difference between men and women, but and its a big but.
So what, that they have changed the name to make it more universal
Its not really a big deal and do not see this as PC
I mean, can you imagine women buying clothes that stated man size?
So all they are doing is making the sizes more in line with just about everything else that is sold in sizes
Unless you think we should change clothes sizes to add, man size for women?
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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:No I won't have a flu jab , my mother won't have one either , every year she has had a flu jab she has been really ill, so the past 2 years she refused and never got sick .
I won't either. Last time I had one, I was really ill. Haven't had flu since.
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HoratioTarr wrote:Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:No I won't have a flu jab , my mother won't have one either , every year she has had a flu jab she has been really ill, so the past 2 years she refused and never got sick .
I won't either. Last time I had one, I was really ill. Haven't had flu since.
Then you have either an amasing evolutionary immune system or like Dib story. Its highly unbelievable
Considering you actually had the jab, have you considered, it was because of this, that you have not had bad flu since?
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HoratioTarr wrote:Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:No I won't have a flu jab , my mother won't have one either , every year she has had a flu jab she has been really ill, so the past 2 years she refused and never got sick .
I won't either. Last time I had one, I was really ill. Haven't had flu since.
I've been having flu jabs for years, firstly because my late wife was asthmatic and later because I'm diabetic. They've never had the slightest bad effect, I'm glad to say.
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Fred Moletrousers wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
I won't either. Last time I had one, I was really ill. Haven't had flu since.
I've been having flu jabs for years, firstly because my late wife was asthmatic and later because I'm diabetic. They've never had the slightest bad effect, I'm glad to say.
I rest my case
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Didge wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
I won't either. Last time I had one, I was really ill. Haven't had flu since.
Then you have either an amasing evolutionary immune system or like Dib story. Its highly unbelievable
Considering you actually had the jab, have you considered, it was because of this, that you have not had bad flu since?
The flu jab is only valuable for the flu (or more than one flu) that the medics have judged to be the strains that are likely to hit that particular year, so I doubt HT's jab from years gone by would still be protecting her. Different flu strains need different vacines.
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Syl wrote:Didge wrote:
Then you have either an amasing evolutionary immune system or like Dib story. Its highly unbelievable
Considering you actually had the jab, have you considered, it was because of this, that you have not had bad flu since?
The flu jab is only valuable for the flu (or more than one flu) that the medics have judged to be the strains that are likely to hit that particular year, so I doubt HT's jab from years gone by would still be protecting her. Different flu strains need different vacines.
Bullshit
Do you know why?
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Oh, Why?
I've had a flu jab for the last three years and last year a pneumonia jab, last May I had flu, went to bed for a week and didn't care what else went on took a while to get my strength back. There were four strains of flu around last year, one of which wasn't in the jab or so I was told by the medics also the pneumonia jab isn't thought much of so many people had pneumonia this year as well (and sepsis for that matter).
I've had a flu jab for the last three years and last year a pneumonia jab, last May I had flu, went to bed for a week and didn't care what else went on took a while to get my strength back. There were four strains of flu around last year, one of which wasn't in the jab or so I was told by the medics also the pneumonia jab isn't thought much of so many people had pneumonia this year as well (and sepsis for that matter).
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I had pneumonia recently, so I'm having a flu jab this year for the first time.
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Vintage wrote:Oh, Why?
I've had a flu jab for the last three years and last year a pneumonia jab, last May I had flu, went to bed for a week and didn't care what else went on took a while to get my strength back. There were four strains of flu around last year, one of which wasn't in the jab or so I was told by the medics also the pneumonia jab isn't thought much of so many people had pneumonia this year as well (and sepsis for that matter).
I would disagree and would say you had mild pneumonia. Colds, flu and pneumonia are all very similar
They all effect the respiratory system and pneumonia is not contained by flu jabs. So who ever you talked to, is talking bullshit vintage and I simple do not believe what you are saying. Eiether they lied to you, or you are lying
There is no jab for pneumonia for a simple reason and do you know what that is?
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Didge wrote:Vintage wrote:Oh, Why?
I've had a flu jab for the last three years and last year a pneumonia jab, last May I had flu, went to bed for a week and didn't care what else went on took a while to get my strength back. There were four strains of flu around last year, one of which wasn't in the jab or so I was told by the medics also the pneumonia jab isn't thought much of so many people had pneumonia this year as well (and sepsis for that matter).
I would disagree and would say you had mild pneumonia. Colds, flu and pneumonia are all very similar
They all effect the respiratory system and pneumonia is not contained by flu jabs. So who ever you talked to, is talking bullshit vintage and I simple do not believe what you are saying. Eiether they lied to you, or you are lying
There is no jab for pneumonia for a simple reason and do you know what that is?
There is a jab for viral pneumonia. However, a lot of pneumonia is caused by bacteria so a jab wouldn't work.
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why not raggs....tetanus is caused by a bacteria....yet you can get an anti tetanus jab
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Lord Foul wrote:why not raggs....tetanus is caused by a bacteria....yet you can get an anti tetanus jab
Thank you for exaplining
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Lord Foul wrote:why not raggs....tetanus is caused by a bacteria....yet you can get an anti tetanus jab
Oooh, apparently you can get a jab for bacterial pneumonia.
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Didge wrote:Lord Foul wrote:why not raggs....tetanus is caused by a bacteria....yet you can get an anti tetanus jab
Thank you for exaplining
You just said there is no jab for pneumonia, but there is.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Lord Foul wrote:why not raggs....tetanus is caused by a bacteria....yet you can get an anti tetanus jab
Oooh, apparently you can get a jab for bacterial pneumonia.
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and didge ther IS an anti pneumonia jab
Pneumococcal vaccine
The pneumococcal vaccine protects against serious and potentially fatal pneumococcal infections. It's also known as the "pneumo jab" or pneumonia vaccine.
Pneumococcal infections are caused by the bacterium Streptococcus pneumoniae and can lead to pneumonia, septicaemia (a kind of blood poisoning) and meningitis. At their worst, they can cause permanent brain damage, or even kill.
Who should have the pneumococcal vaccine?
A pneumococcal infection can affect anyone. However, some people are at higher risk of serious illness and can be given the pneumococcal vaccination on the NHS. These include:
babies
adults aged 65 or over
children and adults with certain long-term health conditions, such as a serious heart or kidney condition
FROM https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pneumococcal-vaccination/
Pneumococcal vaccine
The pneumococcal vaccine protects against serious and potentially fatal pneumococcal infections. It's also known as the "pneumo jab" or pneumonia vaccine.
Pneumococcal infections are caused by the bacterium Streptococcus pneumoniae and can lead to pneumonia, septicaemia (a kind of blood poisoning) and meningitis. At their worst, they can cause permanent brain damage, or even kill.
Who should have the pneumococcal vaccine?
A pneumococcal infection can affect anyone. However, some people are at higher risk of serious illness and can be given the pneumococcal vaccination on the NHS. These include:
babies
adults aged 65 or over
children and adults with certain long-term health conditions, such as a serious heart or kidney condition
FROM https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pneumococcal-vaccination/
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Anyway, a jab against pneumonia only works if you get the type that the jab gives you immunity against.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Didge wrote:
Thank you for exaplining
You just said there is no jab for pneumonia, but there is.
Is there an effective preventive jab for pneumonia?
One word
Bullshit
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viral pneumonia is less deadly and somewhat rarer than pneumococcal pneumonia and is a syndrome rather than a specific disease (so is in fact a complication of having any one of a number of viruses...including flu)
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Lord Foul wrote:and didge ther IS an anti pneumonia jab
Pneumococcal vaccine
The pneumococcal vaccine protects against serious and potentially fatal pneumococcal infections. It's also known as the "pneumo jab" or pneumonia vaccine.
Pneumococcal infections are caused by the bacterium Streptococcus pneumoniae and can lead to pneumonia, septicaemia (a kind of blood poisoning) and meningitis. At their worst, they can cause permanent brain damage, or even kill.
Who should have the pneumococcal vaccine?
A pneumococcal infection can affect anyone. However, some people are at higher risk of serious illness and can be given the pneumococcal vaccination on the NHS. These include:
babies
adults aged 65 or over
children and adults with certain long-term health conditions, such as a serious heart or kidney condition
FROM https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pneumococcal-vaccination/
Again I say, an effective jab for pneumonia
How effecrive is the above?
I suggest you and Rags, actually see how effective the above is?
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Didge wrote:Vintage wrote:Oh, Why?
I've had a flu jab for the last three years and last year a pneumonia jab, last May I had flu, went to bed for a week and didn't care what else went on took a while to get my strength back. There were four strains of flu around last year, one of which wasn't in the jab or so I was told by the medics also the pneumonia jab isn't thought much of so many people had pneumonia this year as well (and sepsis for that matter).
I would disagree and would say you had mild pneumonia. Colds, flu and pneumonia are all very similar
They all effect the respiratory system and pneumonia is not contained by flu jabs. So who ever you talked to, is talking bullshit vintage and I simple do not believe what you are saying. Eiether they lied to you, or you are lying
There is no jab for pneumonia for a simple reason and do you know what that is?
Do you want to retract that last sentence now?
Colds, flu, and pneunomia aren't really similar. They share some symptoms but they're caused by different viruses, and in the case of pneumonia, it's often a bacterial infection. Don't forget the parainfluenza virus either - that can give someone pneumonia and also cold-like symptoms.
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the pneumo jab will protect you aginst strep pneumonia, but not against viral pneumonia...for that you would need to vaccinate against the specific viral agent...
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Raggamuffin wrote:Didge wrote:
I would disagree and would say you had mild pneumonia. Colds, flu and pneumonia are all very similar
They all effect the respiratory system and pneumonia is not contained by flu jabs. So who ever you talked to, is talking bullshit vintage and I simple do not believe what you are saying. Eiether they lied to you, or you are lying
There is no jab for pneumonia for a simple reason and do you know what that is?
Do you want to retract that last sentence now?
Colds, flu, and pneunomia aren't really similar. They share some symptoms but they're caused by different viruses, and in the case of pneumonia, it's often a bacterial infection. Don't forget the parainfluenza virus either - that can give someone pneumonia and also cold-like symptoms.
No I do not want to detract, as they are all very similar
So if they share different symptoms, they are similar are they not?
Even the above is so bad trying to gogglre and understand something you have no idea on, now I am going to rip the shit out of you
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Lord Foul wrote:the pneumo jab will protect you aginst strep pneumonia, but not against viral pneumonia...for that you would need to vaccinate against the specific viral agent...
Exactly and why Rags has no idea what she is talking about
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from the same NHS web site
More than 90 different strains of the pneumococcal bacterium have been identified, although only 8 to 10 of them cause the most serious infections.
The childhood vaccine (PCV) protects against 13 strains of the pneumococcal bacterium, while the adult vaccine (PPV) protects against 23 strains.
The pneumococcal vaccine is thought to be around 50-70% effective at preventing pneumococcal disease.
Both the PPV and the PCV are inactivated or "killed" vaccines and don't contain any live organisms. They can't cause the disease against which they protect.
For someone in the "at risk" group I'd say thats better than nowt at all.........
More than 90 different strains of the pneumococcal bacterium have been identified, although only 8 to 10 of them cause the most serious infections.
The childhood vaccine (PCV) protects against 13 strains of the pneumococcal bacterium, while the adult vaccine (PPV) protects against 23 strains.
The pneumococcal vaccine is thought to be around 50-70% effective at preventing pneumococcal disease.
Both the PPV and the PCV are inactivated or "killed" vaccines and don't contain any live organisms. They can't cause the disease against which they protect.
For someone in the "at risk" group I'd say thats better than nowt at all.........
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Didge...just because things share similar symptoms dont mean they ARE similar
I mean I could chop you leg off with an axe
or it could be chopped off in a motor accident....
the symptoms would be similar but they aint the same........
I mean I could chop you leg off with an axe
or it could be chopped off in a motor accident....
the symptoms would be similar but they aint the same........
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Didge wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Do you want to retract that last sentence now?
Colds, flu, and pneunomia aren't really similar. They share some symptoms but they're caused by different viruses, and in the case of pneumonia, it's often a bacterial infection. Don't forget the parainfluenza virus either - that can give someone pneumonia and also cold-like symptoms.
No I do not want to detract, as they are all very similar
So if they share different symptoms, they are similar are they not?
Even the above is so bad trying to gogglre and understand something you have no idea on, now I am going to rip the shit out of you
One doesn't normally end up in hospital with a cold though does one? The flu and pneumonia are more serious than a cold. Do you understand that different illnesses are caused by different viruses and/or bacteria?
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Lord Foul wrote:Didge...just because things share similar symptoms dont mean they ARE similar
I mean I could chop you leg off with an axe
or it could be chopped off in a motor accident....
the symptoms would be similar but they aint the same........
Exactly. It's like saying that all arthritis is the same.
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Its some defense, but only protections of 13-20 between kids and adults out of 90?
Its why we should hold our hats off to those biological scientists mate
Its why we should hold our hats off to those biological scientists mate
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Lord Foul wrote:Didge...just because things share similar symptoms dont mean they ARE similar
I mean I could chop you leg off with an axe
or it could be chopped off in a motor accident....
the symptoms would be similar but they aint the same........
Are you seriousl making that similarity on viruses?
based on colds and flu?
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Raggamuffin wrote:Didge wrote:
No I do not want to detract, as they are all very similar
So if they share different symptoms, they are similar are they not?
Even the above is so bad trying to gogglre and understand something you have no idea on, now I am going to rip the shit out of you
One doesn't normally end up in hospital with a cold though does one? The flu and pneumonia are more serious than a cold. Do you understand that different illnesses are caused by different viruses and/or bacteria?
Do you actually know the figures of people that dies each year of colds?
You seriously have no idea on this, but its good, you are actually learning from me and Victor
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Having a cold or flu can make you more vulnerable to getting an secondary bacterial infection. This is why people should stay at home when they have a viral infection - and also to prevent them passing it to others.
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Re: Colds, flu and other nasty lurgies...have you had any yet?
Didge wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
One doesn't normally end up in hospital with a cold though does one? The flu and pneumonia are more serious than a cold. Do you understand that different illnesses are caused by different viruses and/or bacteria?
Do you actually know the figures of people that dies each year of colds?
You seriously have no idea on this, but its good, you are actually learning from me and Victor
They don't generally die of colds, they generally die of secondary infections or sepsis.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Having a cold or flu can make you more vulnerable to getting an secondary bacterial infection. This is why people should stay at home when they have a viral infection - and also to prevent them passing it to others.
That is the same with many viral infections, especially towards people that have weakned immune systems. Like peopel that are under going chemo.
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