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Re: A real nasty MP
Consorts with the IRA, goes to Hammas terrorist funeral, wants to abolish our Royal Family, wants to scrap our Nuclear option, wants to reduce our military ,wants to nationalise everything, we know who that is don't we ?
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I can counter every smear against the Tories with an even worse one about Labour Andy !
So don't waste your time !
So don't waste your time !
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Clearly you are Davies's biggest fan.
I can see why. You just hate everything decent in society.
I can see why. You just hate everything decent in society.
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nicko wrote:I can counter every smear against the Tories with an even worse one about Labour Andy !
So don't waste your time !
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What "smear", nicko...
All those people are doing is making his voting record more widely known..
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Re: A real nasty MP
Davies is the sort of Tory MP that has done most damage to the party. Most of them are not like him, thank God.
I still choose to cast my vote in favour of the candidate that I consider will be the best for my community.
I am just glad Davies never contented my constituency.
I still choose to cast my vote in favour of the candidate that I consider will be the best for my community.
I am just glad Davies never contented my constituency.
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Any link as to where this actual meme comes from, as in an actual story?
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Re: A real nasty MP
I'd take this with a grain of salt. I've been checking it against Wikipedia, and for one example:
Now, that's not necessarily anti-gay marriage in my book, unless he just used that as an excuse.
In 2013, Davies voted against same-sex marriage because the bill did not allow for opposite-sex civil partnerships. In an interview with the BBC Two programme Daily Politics, Davies stated his reasoning for voting against it was "You can have civil partnerships and marriage for gay people. You can only have marriage for heterosexuals. It's not equality."
Now, that's not necessarily anti-gay marriage in my book, unless he just used that as an excuse.
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And Ben, Wiki is no longer a reliable sourse for factual information.
Google is a great source of facts.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11816/philip_davies/shipley/votes
Google is a great source of facts.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11816/philip_davies/shipley/votes
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How Philip Davies voted on Social Issues #
Consistently voted against equal gay rights
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0 votes for, 10 votes against, 2 absences, between 2008–2019
Consistently voted against smoking bans
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0 votes for, 8 votes against, between 2006–2015
Consistently voted against allowing marriage between two people of same sex
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0 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2014–2019
Almost always voted against laws to promote equality and human rights
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1 vote for, 15 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2019
Voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life
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0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2015
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How Philip Davies voted on Foreign Policy and Defence #
Generally voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas
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3 votes for, 2 votes against, 2 absences, between 2013–2015
Consistently voted for investigations into the Iraq war
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9 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2006–2016
Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system
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7 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2007–2016
Almost always voted against more EU integration
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10 votes for, 106 votes against, 1 abstention, 24 absences, between 2010–2019
Almost always voted for a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU
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9 votes for, 0 votes against, 4 absences, between 2008–2016
Almost always voted against strengthening the Military Covenant
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1 vote for, 3 votes against, between 2010–2012
Generally voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
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1 vote for, 13 votes against, 4 absences, between 2016–2019
Almost always voted against UK membership of the EU
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0 votes for, 21 votes against, 3 absences, between 2016–2019
Generally voted for military action against ISIL (Daesh)
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2 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2014–2015
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How Philip Davies voted on Welfare and Benefits #
Consistently voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")
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16 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2012–2018
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
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0 votes for, 5 votes against, in 2013
Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
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0 votes for, 13 votes against, 2 absences, between 2011–2016
Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support
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4 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2012
Consistently voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
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49 votes for, 0 votes against, 4 absences, between 2012–2016
Almost always voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed
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0 votes for, 8 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2014
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How Philip Davies voted on Taxation and Employment #
Consistently voted for raising the threshold at which people start to pay income tax
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27 votes for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, between 2011–2018
Almost always voted for increasing the rate of VAT
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18 votes for, 4 votes against, 1 abstention, 4 absences, between 2010–2019
Generally voted for higher taxes on alcoholic drinks
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13 votes for, 5 votes against, 4 absences, between 2010–2017
Generally voted for higher taxes on plane tickets
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8 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2013–2017
Generally voted for lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles
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6 votes for, 7 votes against, 3 absences, between 2010–2013
Consistently voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000
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0 votes for, 12 votes against, between 2012–2015
Generally voted for encouraging occupational pensions
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3 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2010–2011
Generally voted against automatic enrolment in occupational pensions
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1 vote for, 1 vote against, in 2010
Almost always voted against a banker’s bonus tax
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0 votes for, 15 votes against, 3 absences, between 2011–2015
Voted a mixture of for and against higher taxes on banks
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6 votes for, 9 votes against, between 2011–2018
Almost always voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)
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0 votes for, 3 votes against, 1 absence, in 2013
Has never voted on allowing employees to exchange some employment rights for shares in the company they work for
Generally voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
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7 votes for, 0 votes against, 5 absences, between 2008–2017
Voted a mixture of for and against reducing capital gains tax
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3 votes for, 1 vote against, 5 absences, between 2010–2016
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How Philip Davies voted on Business and the Economy #
Almost always voted for reducing the rate of corporation tax
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21 votes for, 1 vote against, 4 absences, between 2010–2016
Generally voted for measures to reduce tax avoidance
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5 votes for, 3 votes against, 4 absences, between 2013–2018
Voted a mixture of for and against stronger tax incentives for companies to invest in assets
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7 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2010–2014
Almost always voted against new high speed rail infrastructure
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0 votes for, 6 votes against, 2 absences, between 2013–2019
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How Philip Davies voted on Health #
Generally voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS
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0 votes for, 4 votes against, 3 absences, between 2011–2012
Generally voted for reforming the NHS so GPs buy services on behalf of their patients
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4 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2011–2012
Consistently voted against smoking bans
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0 votes for, 8 votes against, between 2006–2015
Voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life
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0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2015
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How Philip Davies voted on Education #
Generally voted for greater autonomy for schools
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11 votes for, 0 votes against, 11 absences, between 2006–2014
Voted against raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year
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0 votes for, 1 vote against, in 2010
Consistently voted for academy schools
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10 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016
Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education
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2 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2011
Generally voted against university tuition fees
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2 votes for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2017
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How Philip Davies voted on Constitutional Reform #
Generally voted for reducing central government funding of local government
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4 votes for, 2 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2019
Generally voted against an equal number of electors per parliamentary constituency
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0 votes for, 5 votes against, 6 absences, between 2010–2016
Generally voted against fewer MPs in the House of Commons
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0 votes for, 6 votes against, 2 absences, between 2010–2016
Has never voted on a transparent Parliament
Almost always voted against a more proportional system for electing MPs
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0 votes for, 5 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2016
Generally voted against a wholly elected House of Lords
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3 votes for, 6 votes against, between 2007–2016
Almost always voted for local councils keeping money raised from taxes on business premises in their areas
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5 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2012–2019
Almost always voted against greater restrictions on campaigning by third parties, such as charities, during elections
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2 votes for, 10 votes against, between 2013–2016
Consistently voted against fixed periods between parliamentary elections
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0 votes for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2010–2014
Generally voted against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords
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2 votes for, 1 vote against, between 2007–2016
Generally voted against transferring more powers to the Welsh Assembly
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2 votes for, 15 votes against, 14 absences, between 2014–2018
Generally voted against transferring more powers to the Scottish Parliament
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3 votes for, 29 votes against, 13 absences, between 2011–2018
Generally voted against more powers for local councils
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14 votes for, 23 votes against, 14 absences, between 2011–2018
Consistently voted for a veto for MPs from England, Wales and Northern Ireland over laws specifically impacting their part of the UK
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3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2015
Consistently voted against a lower voting age
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0 votes for, 6 votes against, between 2005–2016
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How Philip Davies voted on Home Affairs #
Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system
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9 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2006–2016
Consistently voted against allowing ministers to intervene in inquests
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0 votes for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2008–2009
Consistently voted against introducing ID cards
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0 votes for, 14 votes against, between 2005–2006
Voted a mixture of for and against the introduction of elected Police and Crime Commissioners
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3 votes for, 1 vote against, 4 absences, between 2010–2012
Voted a mixture of for and against requiring the mass retention of information about communications
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2 votes for, 2 votes against, 4 absences, between 2009–2016
Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules
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9 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2016
Has never voted on mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities
Voted for merging police and fire services under Police and Crime Commissioners
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1 vote for, 0 votes against, 2 absences, in 2016
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How Philip Davies voted on Environmental Issues #
Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change
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5 votes for, 14 votes against, 1 abstention, 7 absences, between 2008–2019
Generally voted for lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles
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6 votes for, 7 votes against, 3 absences, between 2010–2013
Consistently voted for selling England’s state owned forests
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2 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2011
Generally voted for higher taxes on plane tickets
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8 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2013–2017
Generally voted against financial incentives for low carbon emission electricity generation methods
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1 vote for, 4 votes against, 1 absence, between 2011–2018
Generally voted for culling badgers to tackle bovine tuberculosis
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2 votes for, 1 vote against, 1 absence, between 2012–2014
Voted a mixture of for and against greater regulation of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) to extract shale gas
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2 votes for, 2 votes against, in 2015
Almost always voted against new high speed rail infrastructure
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0 votes for, 6 votes against, 2 absences, between 2013–2019
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How Philip Davies voted on Transport #
Consistently voted against greater public control of bus services
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0 votes for, 2 votes against, 1 absence, in 2016
Consistently voted against slowing the rise in rail fares
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0 votes for, 5 votes against, in 2013
Generally voted for lower taxes on fuel for motor vehicles
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6 votes for, 7 votes against, 3 absences, between 2010–2013
Generally voted for higher taxes on plane tickets
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8 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2013–2017
Consistently voted against a publicly owned railway system
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0 votes for, 3 votes against, 1 absence, in 2016
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How Philip Davies voted on Housing #
Consistently voted for phasing out secure tenancies for life
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5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2015–2016
Almost always voted for charging a market rent to high earners renting a council home
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4 votes for, 0 votes against, 1 absence, between 2015–2016
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How Philip Davies voted on Miscellaneous Topics #
Generally voted against greater regulation of gambling
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3 votes for, 6 votes against, 2 absences, between 2005–2014
Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments
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5 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2010
Generally voted against Labour's anti-terrorism laws
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5 votes for, 15 votes against, 4 absences, between 2005–2010
Consistently voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail
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5 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2009–2011
Voted a mixture of for and against requiring pub companies to offer pub landlords rent-only leases
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2 votes for, 2 votes against, between 2014–2016
Generally voted for restricting the scope of legal aid
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8 votes for, 2 votes against, 2 absences, between 2011–2014
Consistently voted for allowing national security sensitive evidence to be put before courts in secret sessions
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7 votes for, 0 votes against, between 2012–2013
Generally voted against a statutory register of lobbyists
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1 vote for, 4 votes against, in 2013
Generally voted for limits on success fees paid to lawyers in no-win no fee cases
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3 votes for, 0 votes against, 3 absences, between 2011–2013
Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents
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0 votes for, 6 votes against, between 2014–2018
Generally voted for the policies included in the 2010 Conservative - Liberal Democrat Coalition Agreement
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Re: A real nasty MP
He isn't just a bastard.
He a real nasty bastard.
He a real nasty bastard.
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Andy wrote:And Ben, Wiki is no longer a reliable sourse for factual information.
Google is a great source of facts.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11816/philip_davies/shipley/votes
They did cite their source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/legalising-same-sex-marriage-discriminates-against-straight-people-tory-mp-philip-davies-claims-a6717981.html
Re: A real nasty MP
Andy wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/02/is-philip-davies-fit-to-be-an-mp
He sounds like a cartoon character. It's like a script writer was challenged to create the most extreme caricature of a conservative politician possible.
Esther Mcvey is in lurrve with him. There's a surprise.
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eddie wrote:Any link as to where this actual meme comes from, as in an actual story?
This is the problem with memes such as this, isn't it? They are circulated by an organisation or individual to promote a particular agenda or attempted discreditation, with the express intention that they will be multiplied through the social media, eventually changing or at least influencing attitudes on a large scale.
They are little more than caricatures or cartoons and in most cases any wordage attached to them is presented as actual fact when, in many if not most cases, it is nothing more than either personal or corporate opinion. Accuracy and balance rarely exist.
It's why I ignore them, either here or elsewhere. So far as I'm concerned they are nothing more than regurgitated spam.
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Then don't read them. Many find them a real concern. As they say, no smoke without fire.
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Andy wrote:Then don't read them. Many find them a real concern. As they say, no smoke without fire.
With so many of them it is difficult not to see them; it is just that I do not actually bother reading them. Their main objective is to influence thought without the message being questioned too closely.
Goebbels adopted much the same tactic.
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Andy wrote:Then don't read them. Many find them a real concern. As they say, no smoke without fire.
I hope you remember that when it’s something you don’t agree with....
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I buy the Sun every day, and the Mail on Sunday, so suck it up Buttercup. Do you find much of interest in the DAILY WORKER ?
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nicko wrote:I buy the Sun every day, and the Mail on Sunday, so suck it up Buttercup. Do you find much of interest in the DAILY WORKER ?
Well colour me surprised
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I suppose it's a start for an illiterate grunt like Rambo. The Beano comes next. Then progress to Topsy and Tim.
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You keep taking the piss out of my Military service shows just what a slimy little sperm you are. I would love to see you after just one enemy engagement,then again I wouldn't see you, you'd be running away or crouched up a corner sobbing for your Mommy !
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Andy/ Quill, I will not reply to any of your posts again, I don't need to ,you both show yourselves up as a pair of Pillocks ,so i'm not needed to confirm it !
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nicko wrote:Andy/ Quill, I will not reply to any of your posts again, I don't need to ,you both show yourselves up as a pair of Pillocks ,so i'm not needed to confirm it !
No point being on a debate forum if you take that view.
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and no reason for our lefty cretins to once again berate an ex serviceman for his time spent.
I have had enough of it and not just because its nicko...
one more "baby killer" comment quill and I'm banning you....you ofc will say "because of your views" which is naturally idiotic nonsensical victim card playing. it is because you are deliberately flaming and trying to drive off another poster with whom you have got a beef of some sort and in concert with ANDY.
lefty pack behaviour.
I have had enough of it and not just because its nicko...
one more "baby killer" comment quill and I'm banning you....you ofc will say "because of your views" which is naturally idiotic nonsensical victim card playing. it is because you are deliberately flaming and trying to drive off another poster with whom you have got a beef of some sort and in concert with ANDY.
lefty pack behaviour.
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Andy...you are getting out of order once again, playing your little minded mean spirited game...
once again the instigator of abuse
I'm telling you also to stop it...NOW.
once again the instigator of abuse
I'm telling you also to stop it...NOW.
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