Choosing Benefits Over Working

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A single mother of eight children who has decided to quit her 16 hour-a-week job because it's 'too hard' has caused backlash after she shared her dreams of saving for a boob job.
Furious viewers watching her appearance on This Morning took to Twitter to blast the 33-year-old, from Birmingham, for choosing benefits over working as a carer and not having her priorities straight.


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Do you agree that this woman sis right to choose benefits instead of working?

I wonder how many different daddiz farthud her kidz?

Is she right to want to spend money she has or will have on a breast enlargement?

HoratioTarr wrote:

scrat wrote:
Liar! You jump in to the Nazis defence on every thread, you even defended his sexist comments so low is your own self esteem.

Major is a pusher of hatred because he is an anti British neo Nazi, a traitor that would sell us out to any foreign Nazi dictator, I tend to remember that.

Why should we let him get away with pretending he is anything else!

You rant on about Neo Nazi's and intolerance, and yet here you are being highly intolerant yourself.   Syl's entitled to her opinion, just as you are and doesn't deserve to be ranted at with such spleen.   She's not a liar, either.  

Thanks HT. I didn't sink to answer him...the mans a fool.

Raggamuffin wrote:

scrat wrote:
The topic is should we tolerate repeating BNP propaganda, this thread is doing the rounds, it is hate speak, it denigrates the poor and it masks the reality of poverty in Britain today.

I think it should be treated for what it is!

I think those who post it should be treated for what they are and those who defend it exposed for what they are.

No, the topic is about choosing benefits over working. Did you wander into the wrong thread?

No the topic is about why should we discuss neo Nazi far right extremist propaganda that is posted again and again and again as hate speak spam!,,, and you said you didn't post here because of me yet you're being abusive, goading to the full and replying to all my posts or did you come back because TC has threatened to ban me today!

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

You rant on about Neo Nazi's and intolerance, and yet here you are being highly intolerant yourself.   Syl's entitled to her opinion, just as you are and doesn't deserve to be ranted at with such spleen.   She's not a liar, either.  

Thanks HT. I didn't sink to answer him...the mans a fool.

I'm the first one to start on Major and his idiotic posts, but I'm sick to death of hearing people rant on like this about Right Wingers and Neo Nazis and calling people liars just because they don't share the same opinion. It's unimaginative, dull and fucking boring.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Syl wrote:

Thanks HT. I didn't sink to answer him...the mans a fool.

I'm the first one to start on Major and his idiotic posts, but I'm sick to death of hearing people rant on like this about Right Wingers and Neo Nazis and calling people liars just because they don't share the same opinion.   It's unimaginative, dull and fucking boring.

Hear hear.
Half the time these people are playing to the crowd anyway.

scrat wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No, the topic is about choosing benefits over working. Did you wander into the wrong thread?

No the topic is about why should we discuss neo Nazi far right extremist propaganda that is posted again and again and again as hate speak spam!,,, and you said you didn't post here because of me yet you're being abusive, goading to the full and replying to all my posts or did you come back because TC has threatened to ban me today!

I didn't see him threaten to ban you. I saw him give you a final warning though. You should be grateful that his final warning wasn't actually final. I would have binned you weeks ago.

I think a lot of people are bored with your disruption and your obsession with the "far right" and nazis. Change the record.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Syl wrote:

Thanks HT. I didn't sink to answer him...the mans a fool.

I'm the first one to start on Major and his idiotic posts, but I'm sick to death of hearing people rant on like this about Right Wingers and Neo Nazis and calling people liars just because they don't share the same opinion.   It's unimaginative, dull and fucking boring.

Your defence of Major has been noted, only Nazis defended Nazism, my people, the British people fought and defeated Nazism, and today we must expose Nazism, expose Nazis and those who support them because as we all know it's on the rise again.

Give no Quarter to Nazis!

Scrat, have you actually made one comment about the actual story at all, or even about benefits? All you've done is complain about other posters all over this thread.

Raggamuffin wrote:Scrat, have you actually made one comment about the actual story at all, or even about benefits? All you've done is complain about other posters all over this thread.

My comment on which I've commented about half a dozen times is the fact that this thread was posted a few weeks ago, it's a BNP standard issue bash the poor propaganda, it bares no resemblance to the reality and not one of you far right folk will convince me it's anything else but Nazi propaganda because that was my assessment and comment the first time round when special Eds regretted posting it, in a few weeks time you might post it and I'll simply comment on the same subject matter in the same manner, again.

Don't post BNP propaganda and I won't reply to it!

he has no intent to debate

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scrat wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Scrat, have you actually made one comment about the actual story at all, or even about benefits? All you've done is complain about other posters all over this thread.

My comment on which I've commented about half a dozen times is the fact that this thread was posted a few weeks ago, it's a BNP standard issue bash the poor propaganda, it bares no resemblance to the reality and not one of you far right folk will convince me it's anything else but Nazi propaganda because that was my assessment and comment the first time round when special Eds regretted posting it, in a few weeks time you might post it and I'll simply comment on the same subject matter in the same manner, again.

Don't post BNP propaganda and I won't reply to it!

You'd bang on about nazis in an empty room, or on a forum even if nobody ever posted.

You're not replying to anything, you're just posting your own bigoted propaganda.

Major wrote:The thread is taken from the Daily Mail but I watched her on TV yesterday morning, she was virtually sticking 2 fingers up to the tax payers of our island.

She said she is in training to be a mechanic, I assumed she meant car mechanic.
She does not look strong enough to be a car mechanic.

Where are the daddiz of the children?

Did she have all the kids with one man?

HOW EXACTLY does someone get off working and get benefits without a valid reason?


The haranguing of Miss Ragga is totally unfair, unjustified and a lie, it must not be allowed IMO as she has not posted anything wrong, but certainly added to the thread, as usual.

She a reality "star", paid to do this stuff for money - you were duped.

Lord Foul wrote:he has no intent to debate

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So when is a warning actually final? Are you just letting him carry on for entertainment?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:he has no intent to debate

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So when is a warning actually final? Are you just letting him carry on for entertainment?

She has no intent to debate

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scrat wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

So when is a warning actually final? Are you just letting him carry on for entertainment?

She has no intent to debate

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It's clear to anyone who reads the forum that she does debate and you just whinge.

What is it with a minority of people on here... they cant work  out that just because some posters dont hate the same people they do, they must be liars and extreme right nazis?

Seems to me that the people who constantly talk about hatred...are the very ones eaten up by it.

Syl wrote:

scrat wrote:
She has no intent to debate

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It's clear to anyone who reads the forum that she does debate and you just whinge.

What is it with a minority of people on here... they cant work  out that just because some posters dont hate the same people they do, they must be liars and extreme right nazis?

Seems to me that the people who constantly talk about hatred...are the very ones eaten up by it.

Go to her first post, then report back to me!

Syl wrote:

scrat wrote:
She has no intent to debate

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It's clear to anyone who reads the forum that she does debate and you just whinge.

What is it with a minority of people on here... they cant work  out that just because some posters dont hate the same people they do, they must be liars and extreme right nazis?

Seems to me that the people who constantly talk about hatred...are the very ones eaten up by it.

But the Major, for one, is a racist - are we supposed to pretend that he isn't?

Well he's got his way hasn't he? He's disrupted this thread.

Still, there's not much more to say. People shouldn't be benefit scroungers if they can work, and that's about it.

Very little fraud in the benefits system - so not a major concern.

Ziz wrote:

Very little fraud in the benefits system - so not a major concern.

I'm not talking about fraud in the usual sense of the word.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Very little fraud in the benefits system - so not a major concern.

I'm not talking about fraud in the usual sense of the word.

But it is fraud - if they cannot work they will be claiming ESA.

Ziz wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm not talking about fraud in the usual sense of the word.

But it is fraud - if they cannot work they will be claiming ESA.

So do you think the woman's benefits should be cut or stopped then? After all, she gave up a job for no good reason.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ziz wrote:

But it is fraud - if they cannot work they will be claiming ESA.

So do you think the woman's benefits should be cut or stopped then? After all, she gave up a job for no good reason.

This woman is a professional "reality" star who is paid for her media appearances, so your question is moot - the bulk of her benefits comes from child allowance for her 8 kids - about 500 quid a week I believe. JSA is about £57 - relative tealeaves,.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

It's clear to anyone who reads the forum that she does debate and you just whinge.

What is it with a minority of people on here... they cant work  out that just because some posters dont hate the same people they do, they must be liars and extreme right nazis?

Seems to me that the people who constantly talk about hatred...are the very ones eaten up by it.

But the Major, for one, is a racist - are we supposed to pretend that he isn't?

Are we supposed to pretend that you are not that which you are?

Major wrote:

Ziz wrote:

But the Major, for one, is a racist - are we supposed to pretend that he isn't?

Are we supposed to pretend that you are not that which you are?

No, Major - by all means spill the beans.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

It's clear to anyone who reads the forum that she does debate and you just whinge.

What is it with a minority of people on here... they cant work  out that just because some posters dont hate the same people they do, they must be liars and extreme right nazis?

Seems to me that the people who constantly talk about hatred...are the very ones eaten up by it.

But the Major, for one, is a racist - are we supposed to pretend that he isn't?

You are supposed to discuss the topic....even the perfume topic earlier descended into pathetic name calling (Scrat again) ...surely it's possible to discuss the post not the poster on SOME threads instead of all them turning out the same way.

Ziz wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

So do you think the woman's benefits should be cut or stopped then? After all, she gave up a job for no good reason.

This woman is a professional "reality" star who is paid for her media appearances, so your question is moot - the bulk of her benefits comes from child allowance for her 8 kids - about 500 quid a week I believe. JSA is about £57 - relative tealeaves,.

£500 a week? Child benefit isn't that much, even for eight children.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

But the Major, for one, is a racist - are we supposed to pretend that he isn't?

You are supposed to discuss the topic....even the perfume topic earlier descended into pathetic name calling (Scrat again) ...surely it's possible to discuss the post not the poster on SOME threads instead of all them turning out the same way.

Should be possible - but the problem of disruption goes far beyond scrat.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

You are supposed to discuss the topic....even the perfume topic earlier descended into pathetic name calling (Scrat again) ...surely it's possible to discuss the post not the poster on SOME threads instead of all them turning out the same way.

Should be possible - but the problem of disruption goes far beyond scrat.

True...you're here.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ziz wrote:

This woman is a professional "reality" star who is paid for her media appearances, so your question is moot - the bulk of her benefits comes from child allowance for her 8 kids - about 500 quid a week I believe. JSA is about £57 - relative tealeaves,.

£500 a week? Child benefit isn't that much, even for eight children.

Is it not?

Yes, I've just checked - I thought it was more generous.

I must have been thinking of politicians's lunch allowance.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Should be possible - but the problem of disruption goes far beyond scrat.

True...you're here.

And you.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ziz wrote:

This woman is a professional "reality" star who is paid for her media appearances, so your question is moot - the bulk of her benefits comes from child allowance for her 8 kids - about 500 quid a week I believe. JSA is about £57 - relative tealeaves,.

£500 a week? Child benefit isn't that much, even for eight children.

Ty was the one to break all these benefits down and explain them..
Child tax credits. working tax credits (though she doesn't do much of that) child benefit, free this and that......having eight kids is a good little earner.

Syl wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

£500 a week? Child benefit isn't that much, even for eight children.

Ty was the one to break all these benefits down.
Child tax credoits. working tax credits (though she doesn't do much of that) child benefits, free this and that......having eight kids is a good little earner.

Anywhere near the 500 quid I claimed?

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

Ty was the one to break all these benefits down.
Child tax credoits. working tax credits (though she doesn't do much of that) child benefits, free this and that......having eight kids is a good little earner.

Anywhere near the 500 quid I claimed?

Pass...I have no idea.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

True...you're here.

And you.

Difference being I'm not a troll.

She's clearly getting far too much in benefits if she can just give up her job.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

And you.

Difference being I'm not a troll.

And yet this post of yours proves otherwise.

Raggamuffin wrote:She's clearly getting far too much in benefits if she can just give up her job.

Her job now is appearing on TV and in the media and winding up the gullible - much more lucrative.

Ziz wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:She's clearly getting far too much in benefits if she can just give up her job.

Her job now is appearing on TV and in the media and winding up the gullible - much more lucrative.

I have no idea why people watch those ghastly morning programmes. I stopped years ago. They're full of trash.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Her job now is appearing on TV and in the media and winding up the gullible - much more lucrative.

I have no idea why people watch those ghastly morning programmes. I stopped years ago. They're full of trash.

Daytime TV is depressing for all number of reasons - mindlessness being the foremost.

Daytime TV is filled with ads for various charities....I find that pretty depressing.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

Difference being I'm not a troll.

And yet this post of yours proves otherwise.  

Our definition of 'troll' obviously varies.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

And yet this post of yours proves otherwise.  

Our definition of 'troll' obviously varies.

I define "troll" as:

"someone who accuses others of trolling in order to deflect from their own underhand disruption and deflection".  

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

Our definition of 'troll' obviously varies.

I define "troll" as:

"someone who accuses others of trolling in order to deflect from their own underhand disruption and deflection".  

I thought it was an ugly cave dwelling creature who likes to goad.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

I define "troll" as:

"someone who accuses others of trolling in order to deflect from their own underhand disruption and deflection".  

I thought it was an ugly cave dwelling creature who likes to goad.

No - your thinking of bridge toll collectors.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

I thought it was an ugly cave dwelling creature who likes to goad.

No - your thinking of bridge toll collectors.

Nope...I'm sure the real trolls stay hidden, usually behind a keyboard living in a cave, or the modern equivalent....a house.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

No - your thinking of bridge toll collectors.

Nope...I'm sure the real trolls stay hidden, usually behind a keyboard living in a cave, or the modern equivalent....a house.

Well - you're the expert.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

Nope...I'm sure the real trolls stay hidden, usually behind a keyboard living in a cave, or the modern equivalent....a house.

Well - you're the expert.

That's true...I have seen loads of them. For eg...I have posted alongside your good self on and off for several years.

Syl wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Well - you're the expert.

That's true...I have seen loads of them. For eg...I have posted alongside your good self on and off for several years.

More off than on I think.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

That's true...I have seen loads of them. For eg...I have posted alongside your good self on and off for several years.

More off than on I think.

Well I sometimes need a break from trolls, so you may be right.
Off to cook a meal for family get together....have a good one. x

Ziz wrote:

Major wrote:


Are we supposed to pretend that you are not that which you are?

No, Major - by all means spill the beans.

Cat got your tongue, Major?