Snipers take down Police in apparent 'revenge' for Mudering Black men

DALLAS police have confirmed the alleged snipers who were reportedly involved in the Dallas shooting are now in custody.

“The person of interest whose picture has been circulated just turned himself in,” the DPD confirmed.

“Another alleged suspect was in a shootout with Dallas SWAT officers. That suspect is also in custody. A suspicious package was discovered near this suspect’s location.

“The package is being secured by DPD bomb squad.”

Earlier, authorities released an image of one of the suspected snipers on the run from authorities as another officer was confirmed dead. That brings the death toll up to four.

They tweeted the image of the man with the caption “please help us find him”, but other reports suggest that man is in fact not the sniper.
It came during the chaos in Dallas as at least 11 police officers were shot in a protest over two recent fatal police shootings of black men.

Dallas Police Department Chief David Brown confirmed that 11 officers were shot by two snipers in downtown Dallas. Four are dead, three are critical, and two are in surgery.

Brown also warned: “We also believe these suspects have threatened to plant a bomb in the downtown area.”

“Tonight it appears that two snipers shot (11) police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally,” Brown said.

“Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time.”

Fox News reports the survivors are in a “grave condition”.

The shooting took place in downtown Dallas just before the end of the rally, at about 8.45pm.

It is unknown if any civilians were injured in the shooting.

Ben Reilly wrote:Same here. And may I add this is just another reason to avoid Dallas like the plague ...

eddie wrote:Why do they think that there's bombs involved?
This was a spur of the moment thing surely?

Are they trying to make us believe that these people, who are just protesters with guns, sat and made a bloody bomb??

Jackanory.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:Why do they think that there's bombs involved?
This was a spur of the moment thing surely?

Are they trying to make us believe that these people, who are just protesters with guns, sat and made a bloody bomb??

Jackanory.

Just protesters with guns? They were real guns you know, and they've murdered several police officers.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Just protesters with guns? They were real guns you know, and they've murdered several police officers.

Sorry I was going quick don't let my main point pas you by.....

Why would they have made bombs? Makes no sense.
Guns are quick, "grab one, let's go and make some noise!"

Bombs??? Sounds rubbish.

eddie wrote:Rags, I wasn't making light of it and I'm not sounding flippant.

My only point is, bombs sound a bit like a mad-up story to me

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:Rags, I wasn't making light of it and I'm not sounding flippant.

My only point is, bombs sound a bit like a mad-up story to me

As I just said, one of the snipers said there were bombs. Do you think they should ignore that?

Do you really think those people just woke up and decided to go and shoot a load of police officers? They have murdered them in cold blood eddie - you don't seem to be grasping that.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

As I just said, one of the snipers said there were bombs. Do you think they should ignore that?

Do you really think those people just woke up and decided to go and shoot a load of police officers? They have murdered them in cold blood eddie - you don't seem to be grasping that.

I thought this was in response to the murdered man? Forget it. I just think they wouldn't have sat and made bombs. It was just a wondering.

Ben Reilly wrote:Same here. And may I add this is just another reason to avoid Dallas like the plague ...

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:

I thought this was in response to the murdered man? Forget it. I just think they wouldn't have sat and made bombs. It was just a wondering.

It hasn't been established that the man was murdered yet. It's interesting that you haven't referred to the shooting of the police officers as murders though.

The incidents where the black men were shot only happened a couple of days ago. Do you really think this sniper attack wasn't planned before that, and that they were just waiting for an opportunity?

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It hasn't been established that the man was murdered yet. It's interesting that you haven't referred to the shooting of the police officers as murders though.

The incidents where the black men were shot only happened a couple of days ago. Do you really think this sniper attack wasn't planned before that, and that they were just waiting for an opportunity?

We've been training men in Afghanistan and Iraq to become proficient in the art of sniper-craft.  I shouldn't imagine that it would require too much advance time to engineer this.  They are skilled in selecting vantage points, proper ammo, and even communications, which can be bought at any Radio Shack.  One or two days would be sufficient.

Its an absolute tragedy that no one can rise above and see the inevitable.  We see retaliatory shooting in the terrorist arena.  We see in in the gang arena.  We could easily have seen it in the situation of many police killings of black men.  How long ago was Michael Brown shot in Ferguson, Mo?  August 19, 2014?  How many police shootings since then?

This is why we have the Geneva convention.  Because, if you torture or execute their guys, they will come back and torture and execute your guys.  It's called retaliation.  You figure, every time a cop shoots a black man, he has just killed a police officer as well.  That's the way retaliation works.  

Civilized society should be able to rise above this.  Especially, the police departments around the nation should be aware of this...why do we spend all this money studying crime, if they can't come to this one fundamental truth?

We seem to want to preserve 'revenge' as an element of our society.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It hasn't been established that the man was murdered yet. It's interesting that you haven't referred to the shooting of the police officers as murders though.

The incidents where the black men were shot only happened a couple of days ago. Do you really think this sniper attack wasn't planned before that, and that they were just waiting for an opportunity?

We've been training men in Afghanistan and Iraq to become proficient in the art of sniper-craft.  I shouldn't imagine that it would require too much advance time to engineer this.  They are skilled in selecting vantage points, proper ammo, and even communications, which can be bought at any Radio Shack.  One or two days would be sufficient.

Its an absolute tragedy that no one can rise above and see the inevitable.  We see retaliatory shooting in the terrorist arena.  We see in in the gang arena.  We could easily have seen it in the situation of many police killings of black men.  How long ago was Michael Brown shot in Ferguson, Mo?  August 19, 2014?  How many police shootings since then?

This is why we have the Geneva convention.  Because, if you torture or execute their guys, they will come back and torture and execute your guys.  It's called retaliation.  You figure, every time a cop shoots a black man, he has just killed a police officer as well.  That's the way retaliation works.  

Civilized society should be able to rise above this.  Especially, the police departments around the nation should be aware of this...why do we spend all this money studying crime, if they can't come to this one fundamental truth?

We seem to want to preserve 'revenge' as an element of our society.

sassy wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

We've been training men in Afghanistan and Iraq to become proficient in the art of sniper-craft.  I shouldn't imagine that it would require too much advance time to engineer this.  They are skilled in selecting vantage points, proper ammo, and even communications, which can be bought at any Radio Shack.  One or two days would be sufficient.

Its an absolute tragedy that no one can rise above and see the inevitable.  We see retaliatory shooting in the terrorist arena.  We see in in the gang arena.  We could easily have seen it in the situation of many police killings of black men.  How long ago was Michael Brown shot in Ferguson, Mo?  August 19, 2014?  How many police shootings since then?

This is why we have the Geneva convention.  Because, if you torture or execute their guys, they will come back and torture and execute your guys.  It's called retaliation.  You figure, every time a cop shoots a black man, he has just killed a police officer as well.  That's the way retaliation works.  

Civilized society should be able to rise above this.  Especially, the police departments around the nation should be aware of this...why do we spend all this money studying crime, if they can't come to this one fundamental truth?

We seem to want to preserve 'revenge' as an element of our society.

Have a greenie.   I think back to the Mafia and their family feuds that went on for years and years when so many died.   You would have thought that by now the police training would have changed after all the demonstrations last year when citizens were shot.   Did they think people would just carry on marching and they could continue to shoot with impunity?   At some point the line gets crossed if the behavious that causes the fury doesn't stop.   No, of course they shouldn't be shooting police officers.  No, police officers shouldn't be shooting citizens going about their business, and they shouldn't be shooting them even if they have done something wrong if they are overpowered and on the ground, or running away so they are shot in the back etc etc.  The police are breaking the law just as much doing that.  FGS, when is someone going to take control of the situation?

Original Quill wrote:Ty sass...and back at ya.  It's particularly galling when you think that police are being paid to stop this kind of thing.  Yet, here we go again in Baton Rouge and Minneapolis.  And some innocent Dallas cop has to pay the price.

The cop in Minneapolis is on "administrative leave'.  Do you know what that means?  He is receiving a paid vacation at taxpayer's expense, for murdering a citizen.  Next thing you know, the City will be paying for a beachfront condo in Florida for him.  

If he were a black civilian, and he had done the same thing, he would be held in jail on a 'no bond' status.  Paid vacation...  hee-sus kreest.  

eddie wrote:Well just to make it clear....I never did!

Raggamuffin wrote:You're excusing the murder of five police officers - no surprise there. This isn't retaliation, it's murder - let's call it what it is. Don't blame one cop for the death of another.

Raggamuffin wrote:

sassy wrote:


Have a greenie.   I think back to the Mafia and their family feuds that went on for years and years when so many died.   You would have thought that by now the police training would have changed after all the demonstrations last year when citizens were shot.   Did they think people would just carry on marching and they could continue to shoot with impunity?   At some point the line gets crossed if the behavious that causes the fury doesn't stop.   No, of course they shouldn't be shooting police officers.  No, police officers shouldn't be shooting citizens going about their business, and they shouldn't be shooting them even if they have done something wrong if they are overpowered and on the ground, or running away so they are shot in the back etc etc.  The police are breaking the law just as much doing that.  FGS, when is someone going to take control of the situation?

Have a red for that post which is blatantly lacking in empathy for the officers who were killed and their families. Didn't you accuse me of having no empathy? Well look at yourself ...

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:You're excusing the murder of five police officers - no surprise there. This isn't retaliation, it's murder - let's call it what it is. Don't blame one cop for the death of another.

No, you are to blame, Raggs.  Your sentiment is what is perpetuating the murders.  You are down in the mud hurling insults at the other side, when the moral people are trying to rise above and stop this madness.

When are you going to learn that revenge begets revenge.  There are so many examples...the Hatfields and McCoy's are an excellent example.  For a century these two families along the West Virginia–Kentucky border killed each other for revenge.  Nothing got any better...it was just one murder after another.  And that's what you have here.  It's insane.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Have a red for that post which is blatantly lacking in empathy for the officers who were killed and their families. Didn't you accuse me of having no empathy? Well look at yourself ...

You missed the bit where I said they should not have been shot.   However, if someone had been shooting and killing your family one by one over the years, wouldn't there be a point when you said, enough, and started fighting back?   The policemen killed were probably not the kind that would have shot someone in the first place, and the fact that they have paid for the crimes of their comrades who have got away with it over the years is horrifying.   But now is the time to stop things getting worse, look at the reasons for all the killings that have been happening and actually fucking DO SOMETHING before the situation gets out of control - because without really strong action, it will get out of control.

Raggamuffin wrote:Of course Quill and Sassy will be screaming all over the forum when the police get even tougher and shoot more people before they get shot themselves - as long as it's not a white person they shoot of course. If it's a white person they'll just shrug.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

No, you are to blame, Raggs.  Your sentiment is what is perpetuating the murders.  You are down in the mud hurling insults at the other side, when the moral people are trying to rise above and stop this madness.

When are you going to learn that revenge begets revenge.  There are so many examples...the Hatfields and McCoy's are an excellent example.  For a century these two families along the West Virginia–Kentucky border killed each other for revenge.  Nothing got any better...it was just one murder after another.  And that's what you have here.  It's insane.

Wow! You're actually blaming me for the murder of five police officers. Now I know you've lost touch with reality. How about you have a bit of empathy for the victims instead of excusing the perpetrators? I guess you think that the victims of 9/11 deserved what they got, or maybe the victims of 7/7.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Of course Quill and Sassy will be screaming all over the forum when the police get even tougher and shoot more people before they get shot themselves - as long as it's not a white person they shoot of course. If it's a white person they'll just shrug.

FGS, try using your brain.   That is exactly the why the root cause needs to be dealt with NOW!

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Wow! You're actually blaming me for the murder of five police officers. Now I know you've lost touch with reality. How about you have a bit of empathy for the victims instead of excusing the perpetrators? I guess you think that the victims of 9/11 deserved what they got, or maybe the victims of 7/7.

Actually, yes...though it is your sentiment--rampant among the masses--that the answer is revenge, that is at fault.  How you justify that is beyond me.

I have much empathy for the victims--all innocent.  One in Baton Rouge, one in Minneapolis and five in Dallas.  All dead, and the deed done by your pronouncement of tit-for-tat.

Raggamuffin wrote:Of course Quill and Sassy will be screaming all over the forum when the police get even tougher and shoot more people before they get shot themselves - as long as it's not a white person they shoot of course. If it's a white person they'll just shrug.