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More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Guest Thu May 19, 2016 10:20 am
More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home, research suggests, yet the UK has taken a tiny handful of people compared to other wealthy countries like Canada.
The UK came third after China and Germany in Amnesty International’s ranking of how accepting countries are of refugees, which shows anti-refugee rhetoric and policies are wildly “out of step” with public opinion, the charity says.
Britain has committed to taking 20,000 Syrian refugees by 2020, less than a quarter of the number that it should based on the size of its economy, according to Oxfam which called the figure “shocking”.
The British effort pales in comparison to Canada, which just took in 25,000 people in just four months.
That includes the family of the drowned toddler Alan Kurdi, who were welcomed in joyful scenes in Vancouver in December.
Amnesty’s first Refugees Welcome Index, carried out by consultancy GlobeScan, questioned more than 27,000 people across 27 countries about their acceptance of refugees.
It found Russia, Indonesia and Thailand were the countries least welcoming, while Canada, Australia and Spain ranked highly, just behind the UK:
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Each country is ranked out of 100 based on how accepting they are of refugees, where 0 means all respondents would refuse refugees entry, and 100 means all respondents would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home.
David Cameron blocked plans to take 3,000 unaccompanied child refugees already registered in Europe, but was forced to U-turn after pressure from his own MPs and charities.
In comparison, the Canadian government has a website titled #WelcomeRefugees, letting citizens track incoming flights arriving with refugees on board, so they can help them settle in.
Welcoming refugees with “open hearts” is “the Canadian way” says the site, which advises businesses that they should help by “donating money, items and services, and hiring refugees.”
The Canadian site has a counter showing how many Syrian refugees have arrived there (now over 27,190). It tracks asylum applications in progress and counts how many text messages have been sent to ask refugees if they are interested in coming to Canada, as well as how many Syrians have asked about moving to Canada at a UN centre.
“Resettling refugees is a proud and important part of Canada’s humanitarian tradition,” the Canandian refugee site says. Its resettlement programme was launched after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took office in November 2015. It planned to take 25,000 people in two months, and managed it in four.
Maryam Monsef, Canada’s Minister of Democratic Institutions said: “Welcoming 25,000 refugees in such a short period of time is a shining example of the welcoming spirit of Canadians.
“Throughout the country, we have seen communities – large and small – embrace newcomers as only Canadians could. This is making a tangible difference in the lives of so many.”
Most Brits in the Amnesty research said they would gladly welcome refugees into their area, while 29% even said they would accept refugees into their own home.
And 70% of those surveyed think the UK government should do more to help people fleeing war and persecution.
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Canadian immigration minister John McCallum gives a teddy bear to a young Syrian girl.
Kate Allen, Director of Amnesty International UK, said the findings showed the UK was “overwhelmingly supportive of refugees” and that the government was “out of step with reality”.
“Local organisations are campaigning for their councils to take in refugee families, grassroots groups are collecting supplies for Calais or organising fundraising comedy or music nights and individuals have been heading as far as Greece to volunteer in refugee camps,” she said.
“The survey reveals that anti-refugee political rhetoric is out of step with reality.”
According to Oxfam, the UK and other wealthy nations have resettled less than 2% of Syrian refugees escaping the ongoing civil war.
In 2015 a UNHCR report showed that the poorest countries were caring for most of the world’s refugees. Turkey has taken in more than any country, and is home to over 1.9 million Syrians fleeing violence and instability, while there are thought to be 1.5 million refugees in Lebanon - making one in four people in the country a refugee.
Israel is the only country sharing a border with Syria that has not taken in any refugees from the country, though it has given humanitarian aid and medical treatment to more than 1,000 people.
Pakistan has hosted the most refugees from any area for 22 of the last 36 years according to UNHCR data, but comes in second place to Turkey today. Most refugees in Pakistan are Afghans, who made up the largest proportion of the world’s refugees until Syrian people overtook them in January 2015.
Globally, four out of five people in the survey sad they would welcome refugees into their country “with open arms”.
Nearly a third (32%) said they would accept refugees in their neighbourhood while half (47%) would accept refugees in their city, town or village.
One in 10 would take refugees into their home, ranging from 46% in China down to 1% in Russia.
In 20 of the 27 countries, more than 75% of respondents said they would let refugees in their country. Just 17% said they would refuse refugees entry to their country.
Russia was the only country in which more than a third of people said they would deny refugees access (61%).
Amnesty is calling on leaders at the World Humanitarian Summit in Istanbul next week to commit to a permanent system for sharing the responsibility for refugees. The charity is asking governments to resettle 1.2 million refugees by the end of 2017 - far more than the 100,000 per year that are being taken annually.
Even that many would be less than a tenth of the 19.5 million refugees in the world today.
Allen from Amnesty International said the UK government could go to the World Humanitarian Summit a “confident that British citizens are ready and willing to welcome refugees, not only into the country, but also into their neighbourhoods and even their homes.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/refugees-welcome-index-amnesty-which-countries-have-taken-most_uk_573cc73fe4b0328a838bdb67?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK%2BPolitics§ion=uk_politics
There are literally thousands of people at grassroots level helping, collecting, campaigning, going to Calais and Greece to help and I'm very glad that this research shows they are the MAJORITY in the country.
The UK came third after China and Germany in Amnesty International’s ranking of how accepting countries are of refugees, which shows anti-refugee rhetoric and policies are wildly “out of step” with public opinion, the charity says.
Britain has committed to taking 20,000 Syrian refugees by 2020, less than a quarter of the number that it should based on the size of its economy, according to Oxfam which called the figure “shocking”.
The British effort pales in comparison to Canada, which just took in 25,000 people in just four months.
That includes the family of the drowned toddler Alan Kurdi, who were welcomed in joyful scenes in Vancouver in December.
Amnesty’s first Refugees Welcome Index, carried out by consultancy GlobeScan, questioned more than 27,000 people across 27 countries about their acceptance of refugees.
It found Russia, Indonesia and Thailand were the countries least welcoming, while Canada, Australia and Spain ranked highly, just behind the UK:
Amnesty
Each country is ranked out of 100 based on how accepting they are of refugees, where 0 means all respondents would refuse refugees entry, and 100 means all respondents would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home.
David Cameron blocked plans to take 3,000 unaccompanied child refugees already registered in Europe, but was forced to U-turn after pressure from his own MPs and charities.
In comparison, the Canadian government has a website titled #WelcomeRefugees, letting citizens track incoming flights arriving with refugees on board, so they can help them settle in.
Welcoming refugees with “open hearts” is “the Canadian way” says the site, which advises businesses that they should help by “donating money, items and services, and hiring refugees.”
The Canadian site has a counter showing how many Syrian refugees have arrived there (now over 27,190). It tracks asylum applications in progress and counts how many text messages have been sent to ask refugees if they are interested in coming to Canada, as well as how many Syrians have asked about moving to Canada at a UN centre.
“Resettling refugees is a proud and important part of Canada’s humanitarian tradition,” the Canandian refugee site says. Its resettlement programme was launched after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took office in November 2015. It planned to take 25,000 people in two months, and managed it in four.
Maryam Monsef, Canada’s Minister of Democratic Institutions said: “Welcoming 25,000 refugees in such a short period of time is a shining example of the welcoming spirit of Canadians.
“Throughout the country, we have seen communities – large and small – embrace newcomers as only Canadians could. This is making a tangible difference in the lives of so many.”
Most Brits in the Amnesty research said they would gladly welcome refugees into their area, while 29% even said they would accept refugees into their own home.
And 70% of those surveyed think the UK government should do more to help people fleeing war and persecution.
Government of Canada
Canadian immigration minister John McCallum gives a teddy bear to a young Syrian girl.
Kate Allen, Director of Amnesty International UK, said the findings showed the UK was “overwhelmingly supportive of refugees” and that the government was “out of step with reality”.
“Local organisations are campaigning for their councils to take in refugee families, grassroots groups are collecting supplies for Calais or organising fundraising comedy or music nights and individuals have been heading as far as Greece to volunteer in refugee camps,” she said.
“The survey reveals that anti-refugee political rhetoric is out of step with reality.”
According to Oxfam, the UK and other wealthy nations have resettled less than 2% of Syrian refugees escaping the ongoing civil war.
In 2015 a UNHCR report showed that the poorest countries were caring for most of the world’s refugees. Turkey has taken in more than any country, and is home to over 1.9 million Syrians fleeing violence and instability, while there are thought to be 1.5 million refugees in Lebanon - making one in four people in the country a refugee.
Israel is the only country sharing a border with Syria that has not taken in any refugees from the country, though it has given humanitarian aid and medical treatment to more than 1,000 people.
Pakistan has hosted the most refugees from any area for 22 of the last 36 years according to UNHCR data, but comes in second place to Turkey today. Most refugees in Pakistan are Afghans, who made up the largest proportion of the world’s refugees until Syrian people overtook them in January 2015.
Globally, four out of five people in the survey sad they would welcome refugees into their country “with open arms”.
Nearly a third (32%) said they would accept refugees in their neighbourhood while half (47%) would accept refugees in their city, town or village.
One in 10 would take refugees into their home, ranging from 46% in China down to 1% in Russia.
In 20 of the 27 countries, more than 75% of respondents said they would let refugees in their country. Just 17% said they would refuse refugees entry to their country.
Russia was the only country in which more than a third of people said they would deny refugees access (61%).
Amnesty is calling on leaders at the World Humanitarian Summit in Istanbul next week to commit to a permanent system for sharing the responsibility for refugees. The charity is asking governments to resettle 1.2 million refugees by the end of 2017 - far more than the 100,000 per year that are being taken annually.
Even that many would be less than a tenth of the 19.5 million refugees in the world today.
Allen from Amnesty International said the UK government could go to the World Humanitarian Summit a “confident that British citizens are ready and willing to welcome refugees, not only into the country, but also into their neighbourhoods and even their homes.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/refugees-welcome-index-amnesty-which-countries-have-taken-most_uk_573cc73fe4b0328a838bdb67?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK%2BPolitics§ion=uk_politics
There are literally thousands of people at grassroots level helping, collecting, campaigning, going to Calais and Greece to help and I'm very glad that this research shows they are the MAJORITY in the country.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by nicko Thu May 19, 2016 10:47 am
I would have welcomed some migrants into Britain untill i saw how they behaved in Germany and other countries, now i'm not sure.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Syl Thu May 19, 2016 1:36 pm
I do wonder who answers these polls and whether they are actually telling the truth or not.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 1:44 pm
Firstly, let's not compare with Canada which is a HUGE country compared to us!!
Secondly, that's very nice to hear, that we have so many kind people but as someone pointed out - are they telling the truth? I mean, would they take in a teenage boy if they had young daughters, for example?
I'd take in a child, but grown people? No.
Secondly, that's very nice to hear, that we have so many kind people but as someone pointed out - are they telling the truth? I mean, would they take in a teenage boy if they had young daughters, for example?
I'd take in a child, but grown people? No.
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by nicko Thu May 19, 2016 1:47 pm
Some of these so called "children" are 6ft tall and shave once a day!
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by HoratioTarr Thu May 19, 2016 2:10 pm
nicko wrote:Some of these so called "children" are 6ft tall and shave once a day!
And have 'sexual emergencies' when it suits them.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Guest Thu May 19, 2016 3:39 pm
Gee, if all of us just couldn't find them useful...say like that country Turkey - that puts all of their tent city children to work in those factories making shoes!Amnesty is calling on leaders at the World Humanitarian Summit in Istanbul next week to commit to a permanent system for sharing the responsibility for refugees. The charity is asking governments to resettle 1.2 million refugees by the end of 2017 - far more than the 100,000 per year that are being taken annually.
WOW, just think of the labor force that you all are ignoring - {yes, that was sarcastic for those that need to be told}
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Original Quill Thu May 19, 2016 5:16 pm
Stormee wrote:How is it then that EVERY whitee I talk to is AGAINST refugees to here, no one wants them and certainly NOT in their own homes.
I told you, you need some new friends, stormee. Hanging out at that pool hall can't be good.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Raggamuffin Thu May 19, 2016 5:20 pm
Original Quill wrote:Stormee wrote:How is it then that EVERY whitee I talk to is AGAINST refugees to here, no one wants them and certainly NOT in their own homes.
I told you, you need some new friends, stormee. Hanging out at that pool hall can't be good.
There's nothing wrong with pool halls - we need more of them.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Syl Thu May 19, 2016 5:29 pm
Original Quill wrote:Stormee wrote:How is it then that EVERY whitee I talk to is AGAINST refugees to here, no one wants them and certainly NOT in their own homes.
I told you, you need some new friends, stormee. Hanging out at that pool hall can't be good.
I wonder how many people who say they would be happy to have refugees living in their homes actually have.
I wonder if they have enlisted themselves to be available when a new group arrive,
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by Raggamuffin Thu May 19, 2016 5:41 pm
I bet they wouldn't offer them a room in their house. Most people don't have room. Even if they have a spare room, it's bound to be full of junk.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Original Quill Thu May 19, 2016 5:45 pm
Syl wrote:Original Quill wrote:
I told you, you need some new friends, stormee. Hanging out at that pool hall can't be good.
I wonder how many people who say they would be happy to have refugees living in their homes actually have.
I wonder if they have enlisted themselves to be available when a new group arrive,
Americans, who are used to centuries of extensive immigration, take small notice. With each wave there are whispers about shanty Irish, greezy Italians, and big, dumb Swedes, but it never gets raised to the political level like you guys get.
The extraordinary notice that Brits take shows Brits are simply unaccustomed to having foreigners around, anywhere. What amazes me is how quickly y'all sexualize and criminalize them. That's usually reserved for the extreme cases.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Syl Thu May 19, 2016 6:07 pm
Original Quill wrote:Syl wrote:
I wonder how many people who say they would be happy to have refugees living in their homes actually have.
I wonder if they have enlisted themselves to be available when a new group arrive,
Americans, who are used to centuries of extensive immigration, take small notice. With each wave there are whispers about shanty Irish, greezy Italians, and big, dumb Swedes, but it never gets raised to the political level like you guys get.
The extraordinary notice that Brits take shows Brits are simply unaccustomed to having foreigners around, anywhere. What amazes me is how quickly y'all sexualize and criminalize them. That's usually reserved for the extreme cases.
I'm not sure if you have ever been to Britain Quill...if you have did you stay in a sleepy hamlet and never venture out to the towns and cities?
We have free movement within the EU....you don't even offer it to your next door neighbours.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Syl Thu May 19, 2016 6:10 pm
And to answer the question would I welcome a refugee in my home....nope.
My adult son has returned home and that's bad enough.
My adult son has returned home and that's bad enough.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Ben Reilly Thu May 19, 2016 6:44 pm
nicko wrote:I would have welcomed some migrants into Britain untill i saw how they behaved in Germany and other countries, now i'm not sure.
Did all, or the vast majority, behave like that?
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by Original Quill Thu May 19, 2016 6:49 pm
Syl wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Americans, who are used to centuries of extensive immigration, take small notice. With each wave there are whispers about shanty Irish, greezy Italians, and big, dumb Swedes, but it never gets raised to the political level like you guys get.
The extraordinary notice that Brits take shows Brits are simply unaccustomed to having foreigners around, anywhere. What amazes me is how quickly y'all sexualize and criminalize them. That's usually reserved for the extreme cases.
I'm not sure if you have ever been to Britain Quill...if you have did you stay in a sleepy hamlet and never venture out to the towns and cities?
We have free movement within the EU....you don't even offer it to your next door neighbours.
Yes, I've lived in Britain. I've been to many, if not most towns and cities. And I've been in the little hamlets.
As I say, America has a much different persona than Britain, or even the Commonwealth. We speak something of the same language, and that's all. So the expectation that America is a bunch of junior Brits running around, however that may apply to the Commonwealth countries, has no truth to it regarding America.
When I see the difference in attitudes--and this immigration issue is a case in point--I shake my head 'yes', and say Yup. Oceans to cross...
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by Ben Reilly Thu May 19, 2016 6:53 pm
Syl wrote:Original Quill wrote:Syl wrote:
I wonder how many people who say they would be happy to have refugees living in their homes actually have.
I wonder if they have enlisted themselves to be available when a new group arrive,
Americans, who are used to centuries of extensive immigration, take small notice. With each wave there are whispers about shanty Irish, greezy Italians, and big, dumb Swedes, but it never gets raised to the political level like you guys get.
The extraordinary notice that Brits take shows Brits are simply unaccustomed to having foreigners around, anywhere. What amazes me is how quickly y'all sexualize and criminalize them. That's usually reserved for the extreme cases.
I'm not sure if you have ever been to Britain Quill...if you have did you stay in a sleepy hamlet and never venture out to the towns and cities?
We have free movement within the EU....you don't even offer it to your next door neighbours.
Doesn't exactly stop them, though
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 7:05 pm
Bullshit op.
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by Ben Reilly Thu May 19, 2016 7:41 pm
Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit op.
Ah yes, the "I don't agree with this so it must be bullshit" argument. Really sound logic there.
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 7:41 pm
Syl wrote:And to answer the question would I welcome a refugee in my home....nope.
My adult son has returned home and that's bad enough.
enough said!
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 7:45 pm
Ben_Reilly wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit op.
Ah yes, the "I don't agree with this so it must be bullshit" argument. Really sound logic there.
It's what people do here to my posts all the time...
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by Ben Reilly Thu May 19, 2016 7:46 pm
Tommy Monk wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit op.
Ah yes, the "I don't agree with this so it must be bullshit" argument. Really sound logic there.
It's what people do here to my posts all the time...
Poor Tommy, he doesn't get the difference between baseless opinion and concrete evidence ...
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 7:48 pm
Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit op.
Explain please?
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 7:59 pm
Yawn...
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 8:07 pm
Oh yes. I see your point now.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:07 pm
hmmm where do we start with this peice of politicing
so you invite one into your home and give him a room....(note it has to be "give"...not "rent")
so not having a rent agreement your are now stuck with him.....you have just effectivly given him his "squatters rights"
how long before the "demands"...
some where to pray...5 times a day....
get rid of your pets
like it or not DOGS ARE "haram"
and cats not much better
a seperate fridge ...that of course you must a)provide and b) find room for
and NO pork products in your kitchen unless there are seperate utensils
your young daughters virginity
and then when you have had enough and chuck em out.....
the lefties will scream "wacist" at you...and if you have been fooloish enough to video said demands you will be labeled wacist AND bigot.....
and then will prosecute you on the impudent immigrants behalf due to the first point I mentioned.....
and YES...we all know its "only a few" pfft....but how do you know???
or is this yet another "chance" the lefties wish everyone ELSE to take....while they sit in their ivory towers grinning like the simpering simians they are?????
so you invite one into your home and give him a room....(note it has to be "give"...not "rent")
so not having a rent agreement your are now stuck with him.....you have just effectivly given him his "squatters rights"
how long before the "demands"...
some where to pray...5 times a day....
get rid of your pets
like it or not DOGS ARE "haram"
and cats not much better
a seperate fridge ...that of course you must a)provide and b) find room for
and NO pork products in your kitchen unless there are seperate utensils
your young daughters virginity
and then when you have had enough and chuck em out.....
the lefties will scream "wacist" at you...and if you have been fooloish enough to video said demands you will be labeled wacist AND bigot.....
and then will prosecute you on the impudent immigrants behalf due to the first point I mentioned.....
and YES...we all know its "only a few" pfft....but how do you know???
or is this yet another "chance" the lefties wish everyone ELSE to take....while they sit in their ivory towers grinning like the simpering simians they are?????
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:13 pm
oh...and did I forget ...you must of course tear down any symbols of your Beliefs in case it "offends" them
god help the devout christian with a crucifix on display in their living rooom
or worse still a pagan with the 5 pointed star
and whats that you say....you and your son play world of warcraft...that game of witchcraft...that will stop it.................. "offends" me to be under the same roof as that.....
god help the devout christian with a crucifix on display in their living rooom
or worse still a pagan with the 5 pointed star
and whats that you say....you and your son play world of warcraft...that game of witchcraft...that will stop it.................. "offends" me to be under the same roof as that.....
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 8:16 pm
Vic I'm pretty sure that any child you would "adopt" wouldn't be demanding anything like that.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:21 pm
Eddie...the O/P id NOT on about CHILDREN...it mentions ONLY "refugees"
the talk of children is a sop for the stupid based on something camergoon said/promised
they always use children...to push their ultimate aim....then it will turn out to be something different.....
the talk of children is a sop for the stupid based on something camergoon said/promised
they always use children...to push their ultimate aim....then it will turn out to be something different.....
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 8:22 pm
Well I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't just accept a strange man in to their homes, so I can't see that idea getting off the ground.
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by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:26 pm
and...have you thought about the complications with children...
you would one supposes HAVE to facilitate their growing up in THEIR faith....think about that and digest it....
compulsary islam education for the host compulsary mosque attendance if only to keep an eye on the kids...
the great care you would have to take not to say or do anything that might by even the greatest stretch of te immagination be considered as "leading them away " from the "true " faith
besides which I am now helping MY kids raise THEIR kids.....I dont have time for any cukoos .....
you would one supposes HAVE to facilitate their growing up in THEIR faith....think about that and digest it....
compulsary islam education for the host compulsary mosque attendance if only to keep an eye on the kids...
the great care you would have to take not to say or do anything that might by even the greatest stretch of te immagination be considered as "leading them away " from the "true " faith
besides which I am now helping MY kids raise THEIR kids.....I dont have time for any cukoos .....
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:26 pm
eddie wrote:Well I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't just accept a strange man in to their homes, so I can't see that idea getting off the ground.
Judging by the O/P it seems the lefty's expect us all to do so....
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:28 pm
another reason to make sure labour never get a sniff of power whilst the current bunch of semi evolved simians are in charge
give em a year in charge and it will be compulsarary....
give em a year in charge and it will be compulsarary....
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:28 pm
and even if they havnt said anything like that...its best not to give em the chance.....
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 8:31 pm
Vic its pretty hard to comment on what would be expected of a family if they took on a refugee child, becasue we simply don't know.
I'm pretty certain though, you'd raise them according to your own rules and lifestyle.
I'm pretty certain though, you'd raise them according to your own rules and lifestyle.
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 8:34 pm
The poll in op is complete rubbish.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:39 pm
eddie wrote:Vic its pretty hard to comment on what would be expected of a family if they took on a refugee child, becasue we simply don't know.
I'm pretty certain though, you'd raise them according to your own rules and lifestyle.
what are the rules on fostering......THAT YOU RAISE THE CHILD IN ITS OWN FAITH........AFAIK.......
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 8:42 pm
Lord Foul wrote:eddie wrote:Vic its pretty hard to comment on what would be expected of a family if they took on a refugee child, becasue we simply don't know.
I'm pretty certain though, you'd raise them according to your own rules and lifestyle.
what are the rules on fostering......THAT YOU RAISE THE CHILD IN ITS OWN FAITH........AFAIK.......
It would more be, "allow them the freedom to practice their own faith" which wouldn't mean you'd have to change your name to Father Mohammed and turn your front room into a mosque.
And, you could adopt any child, and they could decide to become Muslim.
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 8:46 pm
With the amount of Muslims in the world... they could easily take all of the 'refugees'...
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 8:55 pm
eddie wrote:Lord Foul wrote:eddie wrote:Vic its pretty hard to comment on what would be expected of a family if they took on a refugee child, becasue we simply don't know.
I'm pretty certain though, you'd raise them according to your own rules and lifestyle.
what are the rules on fostering......THAT YOU RAISE THE CHILD IN ITS OWN FAITH........AFAIK.......
It would more be, "allow them the freedom to practice their own faith" which wouldn't mean you'd have to change your name to Father Mohammed and turn your front room into a mosque.
but you WOULD have to provide a seperate fridge...not have pork and get rid of your pets.....AND you would end up with the local iman taking an undue interest in your doings....
And, you could adopt any child, and they could decide to become Muslim.
true.....but then the odds of that are to say the least remote....my kids by my first marriage were supposed to have been catholic...(as was my ex (may she turn into a toad)) funnt but they are both pagans...one wiccan and one a druid...
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 9:07 pm
No you would NOT have to change your fridges and not buy pork etc etc - you can allow them to practice their own faith but you don't have to go to any massive extremes - compromise yes, like if your daughter turns vegan, you'd set aside a shelf in the fridge.
You have it all twisted out of context.
You have it all twisted out of context.
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 19, 2016 9:14 pm
Tommy Monk wrote:With the amount of Muslims in the world... they could easily take all of the 'refugees'...
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 9:17 pm
not really eddie...
Dogs ARE "haram" dirty and impure
Im sure ther have been kerfuffles about seperate fridges cos Muslims want seperate places away from the devils food....even seperate microwaves....
Its almost certain you would end up "offending" someone.....dont forget they would be being "educated" into how to control you at their local mosque.....
Dogs ARE "haram" dirty and impure
Im sure ther have been kerfuffles about seperate fridges cos Muslims want seperate places away from the devils food....even seperate microwaves....
Its almost certain you would end up "offending" someone.....dont forget they would be being "educated" into how to control you at their local mosque.....
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by eddie Thu May 19, 2016 9:20 pm
Not if they were just children Vic! You're talking about things only an adult/older teen would question.
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Re: More than three quarters of Brits would accept refugees into their neighbourhood or home
by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 9:23 pm
and...for the second time...this is not (speifically) about kids....and particularly not about "young kids"
the definition of kids in this context includes stroppy self opinionated teens....sod that ORDINARY stropy self opinionated teens are BAD...religious stroppy self opinionated teens....no way .....
AND.....as said Im busy enough helping raise the kids of MY kids without taking in a cuckoo
the definition of kids in this context includes stroppy self opinionated teens....sod that ORDINARY stropy self opinionated teens are BAD...religious stroppy self opinionated teens....no way .....
AND.....as said Im busy enough helping raise the kids of MY kids without taking in a cuckoo
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by Victorismyhero Thu May 19, 2016 9:25 pm
Well...whatever eddie.....you can count me as a refusenik niet, non, nein, NO,
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by Ben Reilly Thu May 19, 2016 10:10 pm
Damn, Vic, you're really being a Chicken Little today ...
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