Do you think Islam is an existential threat to Western civilization?

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Let's just be honest, because it seems we have a number of members here who sort of dance around that idea without just coming out and saying it.

And if you do believe it is, what possible solution is there besides either shutting down all immigration or another world war?

Okay, just scanned this and nobody seems to have addressed the second part of my question. IE, if Islam is a threat to Western civilization, what to do about it?

Ben_Reilly wrote:Okay, just scanned this and nobody seems to have addressed the second part of my question. IE, if Islam is a threat to Western civilization, what to do about it?

1) People have answered, why not instead of offering up as per usual stalling tactics, with petty excuses, how about answer them.

2) I have stated Islam in its literal form conflicts with equality, as does Christainity and Judaism.

3) Most Christians and Jews are Secularists.

4) Most Muslims are Theocratic

5) So any Abrahamic faith in its literal form is a problem

Ben_Reilly wrote:Okay, just scanned this and nobody seems to have addressed the second part of my question. IE, if Islam is a threat to Western civilization, what to do about it?

Ensure that we tighten our borders
Not let fit, single, young men in without having seriously in-depth checks - genuine refugees should be families, women, children, elderly and frail
Get more intelligence teams scouring social media and Internet for any groups springing up
More surveillance and......?

I'm out of ideas as I dint know how you fight such an undercover and covert radical group.

What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

Amputation will solve the muzzy problem of this island, putting a plaster on it will only prolong our DANGEROUS plight.

THIS IS OUR ISLAND.

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Only just seen this and seconded.

Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

How exactly does that work, by the way? How do you define the British way of life, and who enforces which elements of a person's way of life are or are not British?

If British-born white people start doing things that aren't demonstrably rooted in British culture, does that mean they're no longer British?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

To be honest, as that is incitement to terrorism and illegal, no idea why you are allowing him a warning, especially as he is a known member of a group that does that kind of thing.

Sassy I didn't hear you say anything against Veya saying such things about the British.
Your biased knows no bounds, you know that??

It actually seems to go against your very ideology of what you claim for equality.

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Cass wrote:OP - no. All extremism whether religious or secular is evil.

As to NI, yes it was about religion and about being part if a free state or staying part of the UK.

Sorry buit feeling sorry for where a poster is wrong and trying to stick up for them is nobel but does not mean what you say is correct.
In facts its poor to say the least Cass.
Again show me the religious doctrines driving each side?
Show me the religious doctrine used to justify the violence by each side?
I mean what you are claiming for example was Catholic terrorism, with the IRA, which again many of the British soldiers who fought against the IRA were Catholic also.
Again this was about nationalism, where its beginnings certainly were born out of religion, by the time of the violene at the height of the IRA camapaign it had very little to do with religion at all nd i find it appalling that apologists continue to bring this up as a means of somehow defending Islamic terrorism, which is formed and born out of religious doctrine.
I mean the IRA worked with other terrorist organisations, which shows again it had very little to do with religion.
In fact many connections to the Ulster Volunteer force were from the Far right in the UK, groups like Combat 18.
Showing this was always about sectarian nationalist violence.
You may understanjd history very well, but do not spoil your repretation with posting poor claims, just to help a buddy out

I do not spoil my reputation on one post. I lived there twice during recent times, both times when there was no ceasefire. My husband served there. My eldest child was born there. I have plenty of books on the time period. I lived among the people. So yes, I do know what I am talking about thank you. Originally it started out for religious reasons back in the day and then had nationalism attached to it. I don't have the time, nor inclination to write down a factual history of Ireland and the IRA/INLA/UDA/Provos/ etc...because this is a chat forum and it has already been done .

The old saying is still applicable; One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. It just depends on each individual's point of view.

To me all violence/extremism is repugnant and does more harm than good to someone's campaign/revolution/whatever you want to call it. Apart from self-defense and protecting your family, nothing ever justifies harming another human being, even in times of war although that is a set of different circumstances.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

How exactly does that work, by the way? How do you define the British way of life, and who enforces which elements of a person's way of life are or are not British?

If British-born white people start doing things that aren't demonstrably rooted in British culture, does that mean they're no longer British?

If he means learn the language and not expect the UK to change everything for one set of people, then he's right.

The Jewish don't expect to change the way the country works
Nor the Hindus
Nor the Sikhs

Etc etc

eddie wrote:Sassy I didn't hear you say anything against Veya saying such things about the British.
Your biased knows no bounds, you know that??

It actually seems to go against your very ideology of what you claim for equality.

I have never heard veya call for anyone to blow things up, and doing so is illegal.

eddie wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

How exactly does that work, by the way? How do you define the British way of life, and who enforces which elements of a person's way of life are or are not British?

If British-born white people start doing things that aren't demonstrably rooted in British culture, does that mean they're no longer British?

If he means learn the language and not expect the UK to change everything for one set of people, then he's right.

The Jewish don't expect to change the way the country works
Nor the Hindus
Nor the Sikhs

Etc etc

Jews have Beth din courts and meat the same as halal, Sikhs are allowed to carry the knives that are part of their religion and don't have to wear helmets on motorbikes and can wear their turbans in the armed forces.

Erm yes? And Muslims wear burkhas and I wholeheartedly have backed their right to do so.

That's not what I was talking about is it?

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:Sassy I didn't hear you say anything against Veya saying such things about the British.
Your biased knows no bounds, you know that??

It actually seems to go against your very ideology of what you claim for equality.

I have never heard veya call for anyone to blow things up, and doing so is illegal.

You "miss" a lot of things, sassy.

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:

I have never heard veya call for anyone to blow things up, and doing so is illegal.

You "miss" a lot of things, sassy.

No I don't. If he did please show me where. I read virtually every post on here, doesn't take long after all.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Isn't it strange how you said fuck all to Veya when he said that 80% of Brits should be killed.

Veya wished 80% of British to be killed!!!


But stormee... don't lower yourself to his level by saying things like that above!

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:Sassy I didn't hear you say anything against Veya saying such things about the British.
Your biased knows no bounds, you know that??

It actually seems to go against your very ideology of what you claim for equality.

I have never heard veya call for anyone to blow things up, and doing so is illegal.

I should think that killing 80% of the British population would also probably be illegal.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Isn't it strange how you said fuck all to Veya when he said that 80% of Brits should be killed.

When?

I'm really tired of the double standards on this site. Veya regularly incites hatred against Brits and/or the English, and the mods say fuck all about it.

Then Veya said he would punch Tommy's head in if he was standing in front of him. Ben said nothing about that.

Cass wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Sorry buit feeling sorry for where a poster is wrong and trying to stick up for them is nobel but does not mean what you say is correct.
In facts its poor to say the least Cass.
Again show me the religious doctrines driving each side?
Show me the religious doctrine used to justify the violence by each side?
I mean what you are claiming for example was Catholic terrorism, with the IRA, which again many of the British soldiers who fought against the IRA were Catholic also.
Again this was about nationalism, where its beginnings certainly were born out of religion, by the time of the violene at the height of the IRA camapaign it had very little to do with religion at all nd i find it appalling that apologists continue to bring this up as a means of somehow defending Islamic terrorism, which is formed and born out of religious doctrine.
I mean the IRA worked with other terrorist organisations, which shows again it had very little to do with religion.
In fact many connections to the Ulster Volunteer force were from the Far right in the UK, groups like Combat 18.
Showing this was always about sectarian nationalist violence.
You may understanjd history very well, but do not spoil your repretation with posting poor claims, just to help a buddy out

I do not spoil my reputation on one post. I lived there twice during recent times, both times when there was no ceasefire. My husband served there. My eldest child was born there. I have plenty of books on the time period. I lived among the people. So yes, I do know what I am talking about thank you. Originally it started out for religious reasons back in the day and then had nationalism attached to it. I don't have the time, nor inclination to write down a factual history of Ireland and the IRA/INLA/UDA/Provos/ etc...because this is a chat forum and it has already been done .

The old saying is still applicable; One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. It just depends on each individual's point of view.

To me all violence/extremism is repugnant and does more harm than good to someone's campaign/revolution/whatever you want to call it. Apart from self-defense and protecting your family, nothing ever justifies harming another human being, even in times of war although that is a set of different circumstances.

Look lets stop woth the claims to experince as nobody is going to have had this effect their family as it has done to mine, based on what I know of the people have said on here. Family members were murdered by the IRA, I have Irish family that supported them also. So I saw both sides to this ugly conflict
Religion had little to do with this.
So going off what people have done without understanding the conflict as you surely do not understand is poor to say the least.
You then side track even more with "one man's terrorist"
This is about the religious implications of this conflict, of which you have so side tracked, you have not even now spoken of those supposed religious connections, you claim this conflict was all about. You made the claims, now attempt top back out and there simnply is only one reason, you know you are wrong, in fact we both know you are wrong.
Your reputation just went down yet another notch

Try again

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

How exactly does that work, by the way? How do you define the British way of life, and who enforces which elements of a person's way of life are or are not British?

If British-born white people start doing things that aren't demonstrably rooted in British culture, does that mean they're no longer British?

What has skin colour got to do with this?

Being British is a concept, not something genetic, but we have laws here, so is it wrong for wanting people that come heere to respect those laws, the well being of others and their equality?
How would you feel if some Far right immigrants from say Lithuania, wanted to move in next door to you and then started to verbally abuse Mexicans and blacks?
Are you telling me, you would be fine with that, or wish they respected people if they come to the US?

Raggamuffin wrote:Then Veya said he would punch Tommy's head in if he was standing in front of him. Ben said nothing about that.

And flea keeper said he wanted to inflict physical violence on me too...!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Then Veya said he would punch Tommy's head in if he was standing in front of him. Ben said nothing about that.

And flea keeper said he wanted to inflict physical violence on me too...!

And you just can't understand why ...

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

How exactly does that work, by the way? How do you define the British way of life, and who enforces which elements of a person's way of life are or are not British?

If British-born white people start doing things that aren't demonstrably rooted in British culture, does that mean they're no longer British?

What has skin colour got to do with this?

Being British is a concept, not something genetic, but we have laws here, so is it wrong for wanting people that come heere to respect those laws, the well being of others and their equality?
How would you feel if some Far right immigrants from say Lithuania, wanted to move in next door to you and then started to verbally abuse Mexicans and blacks?
Are you telling me, you would be fine with that, or wish they respected people if they come to the US?

I was talking to Stormee and trying to communicate with him on his level. Your input isn't needed.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:



What has skin colour got to do with this?

Being British is a concept, not something genetic, but we have laws here, so is it wrong for wanting people that come heere to respect those laws, the well being of others and their equality?
How would you feel if some Far right immigrants from say Lithuania, wanted to move in next door to you and then started to verbally abuse Mexicans and blacks?
Are you telling me, you would be fine with that, or wish they respected people if they come to the US?

I was talking to Stormee and trying to communicate with him on his level. Your input isn't needed.

Which translates as you cannot answer.
He has a point, even if born from a prejduice view, the principle is still a valid point in regards to people who come here and then conflict and clash with the well being and equality of others.
Hence my example, which you shy away from answering.
How are you ever going to instill to make people of prejudice understand reason when as seen by your repoly above its is formed from prejudice itself towards stormee?
So my input is very needed, whether you like it or not

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


And flea keeper said he wanted to inflict physical violence on me too...!

And you just can't understand why ...

It was after I said there were plant species in Canada that require fires to reproduce and survive...

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Isn't it strange how you said fuck all to Veya when he said that 80% of Brits should be killed.

I just said the same thing to sassy but she didn't see it.

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Cass wrote:

I do not spoil my reputation on one post. I lived there twice during recent times, both times when there was no ceasefire. My husband served there. My eldest child was born there. I have plenty of books on the time period. I lived among the people. So yes, I do know what I am talking about thank you. Originally it started out for religious reasons back in the day and then had nationalism attached to it. I don't have the time, nor inclination to write down a factual history of Ireland and the IRA/INLA/UDA/Provos/ etc...because this is a chat forum and it has already been done .

The old saying is still applicable; One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. It just depends on each individual's point of view.

To me all violence/extremism is repugnant and does more harm than good to someone's campaign/revolution/whatever you want to call it. Apart from self-defense and protecting your family, nothing ever justifies harming another human being, even in times of war although that is a set of different circumstances.

Look lets stop woth the claims to experince as nobody is going to have had this effect their family as it has done to mine, based on what I know of the people have said on here. Family members were murdered by the IRA, I have Irish family that supported them also. So I saw both sides to this ugly conflict
Religion had little to do with this.
So going off what people have done without understanding the conflict as you surely do not understand is poor to say the least.
You then side track even more with "one man's terrorist"
This is about the religious implications of this conflict, of which you have so side tracked, you have not even now spoken of those supposed religious connections, you claim this conflict was all about. You made the claims, now attempt top back out and there simnply is only one reason, you know you are wrong, in fact we both know you are wrong.
Your reputation just went down yet another notch

Try again

Do you honestly think that I really care about my reputation on a chat forum? Then you don't know me very well do you.

Until you can be a civilized debater instead of throwing out implied insults and my trying to "back out", I won't be discussing this or any other issue with you.

If it makes you feel good to think you have some how "won" over me, then fill your boots.

Later Didge

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


And flea keeper said he wanted to inflict physical violence on me too...!

And you just can't understand why ...

It was after I said there were plant species in Canada that require fires to reproduce and survive...

No, it wasn't. It was your online persona, from your vile avatar to the vile hatred, dashed with a heaping helping of ignorance and stupidity, that you post here.

Cass wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:

Look lets stop woth the claims to experince as nobody is going to have had this effect their family as it has done to mine, based on what I know of the people have said on here. Family members were murdered by the IRA, I have Irish family that supported them also. So I saw both sides to this ugly conflict
Religion had little to do with this.
So going off what people have done without understanding the conflict as you surely do not understand is poor to say the least.
You then side track even more with "one man's terrorist"
This is about the religious implications of this conflict, of which you have so side tracked, you have not even now spoken of those supposed religious connections, you claim this conflict was all about. You made the claims, now attempt top back out and there simnply is only one reason, you know you are wrong, in fact we both know you are wrong.
Your reputation just went down yet another notch

Try again

Do you honestly think that I really care about my reputation on a chat forum? Then you don't know me very well do you.

Until you can be a civilized debater instead of throwing out implied insults and my trying to "back out", I won't be discussing this or any other issue with you.

If it makes you feel good to think you have some how "won" over me, then fill your boots.

Later Didge

In other words yet again a copout

If you post claims, you cannot back up, then just say so, the above has to be the worst excuse going for now two further posts you failed to back your poor claim.
Again this has zero to do with winning, which further proves how much some of you poster talk behind the scenes, with such an infantile claim, as the same claim exactly has been made now by 3 of you very good friends, in just a couple of days, funny that.

Is about speaking the truth, where you in fact , you made a dishonest claim.
Civility is reserved for those who are honest
At least I am speaking honestly, so why not ask yourself why you were not on this history?
You may not want to discuss further things with me, but if you continue to post up leftist apologist bullshit, I shall give it the treatment it certainly deserves

So enjoy

FGS Didge it's pretty hard to upset Cass and yet you managed it. You were rude to her for no reason.

And I can assure you, I, for one, don't speak about you to cass away from this forum.
We have so much more to chat about

eddie wrote:FGS Didge it's pretty hard to upset Cass and yet you managed it. You were rude to her for no reason.

And I can assure you, I, for one, don't speak about you to cass away from this forum.
We have so much more to chat about

I could care less, I hate when people are dishonest and she was dishonest

Well its funny how you came in so quick to defend again
Eddie, I am not stupid and I know people speak behind my back and to be honest, so what, itys just insulting that they try to hide it

Also, two years ago when I needed a friend after being her friend so many times for her. She ignored a private email, when I could have done with some friendship back.
I guess the friendship was only one way, so you live and learn

I don't know about your private relationship with Cass I'm only saying that she and I have never discussed you.
Anything I say, I'd say to you. You know that.

You were rude and she didn't deserve it IMO

eddie wrote:I don't know about your private relationship with Cass I'm only saying that she and I have never discussed you.
Anything I say, I'd say to you. You know that.

You were rude and she didn't deserve it IMO

She was dishonest claiming it was a huge religious connection and again that part you ignore.

Says it all really, she is bog enough to be here, then she should be adult enough to take hrash criticism, which from what I can see, she never can

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It was after I said there were plant species in Canada that require fires to reproduce and survive...

No, it wasn't. It was your online persona, from your vile avatar to the vile hatred, dashed with a heaping helping of ignorance and stupidity, that you post here.

I'll tell you what. Should the Brits you don't like just leave? You just blamed Tommy for Veya's outburst, and you clearly hate the English as much as he does.

Fuck you.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It was after I said there were plant species in Canada that require fires to reproduce and survive...

No, it wasn't. It was your online persona, from your vile avatar to the vile hatred, dashed with a heaping helping of ignorance and stupidity, that you post here.

The green was from me.   Why do we allow racist avatars?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Syl wrote:

It was still mostly the Catholics against the Protestants though.
Knee cappings were often done if one side fraternised with the other.

YOU'RE  deliberately lying through your bigoted teeth,  Syl...

Pure and simple..

Ooooh...three insulting posts directed at me on the trot....something has obviously rattled your cage.

I dont lie and I am not a  bigot. I talk from my own experience, (do you?) and when Manchester was bombed many of  the RC community clubs celebrated.....NO protestants were allowed anywhere near them, not that anyone with a brain wanted to go.

The bigger picture may have been to get the Brits out of Ireland, but within smaller communities the hatred was also centred round religion.
Tough if you cant accept that.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Stormee wrote:What to do about it, the answer is to get rid of them from our island and blow up their mosques for starters.
Anyone coming to OUR island MUST sign up to our way of life and live it.

OK, here's the deal, Stormee. If you advocate blowing up mosques, or something else like that, on this site again, I'm going to ban you permanently. This is the last warning.

Isn't it strange how you said fuck all to Veya when he said that 80% of Brits should be killed.

I just said the same thing to sassy but she didn't see it.

Well, I gotta say it....

Its funny how the proponents of the left gain collective blindness and tolerance of threats of violence and EVEN manage to take a stance supporting implied terrorism, let alone lesser but still vile "name calling"...when it suits THEIR agenda.

lets face it

one certain poster has

labeled someone a "nonce" (with all that implies) and has STILL not seen fit to appologise...

another has labelled someone a "baby killer" (but I bet wouldnt have the balls to say it to the face a SERVING member of the armed forces)
that same has made racially loaded and terrorism supporting comments against US...as a nation
and has threatened (though obviously he cant ) physical violence against posters

yet those same lefties are some of the first to whine when the boot is on the other foot....

pot...kettle black...comes to mind....

Now I TRY to be fair....

and as it happens I agree with ben warning stormee over the blowing up of mosques....thats NOT acceptable

BUT.....I find it a poor situation when other mods can blatantly do the same...with impunity.....because they are mods

perhaps its just me......but shouldnt the mods just be that little bit better than that??

opinion is one thing.....how you express that is another altogether....

telling Tommy he has the brains of a zabriskan fonteema is one thing...threatening to punch his lights out is another entirely....

Lord Foul wrote:

eddie wrote:

I just said the same thing to sassy but she didn't see it.

Well, I gotta say it....

Its funny how the proponents of the left gain collective blindness and tolerance of threats of violence and EVEN manage to take a stance supporting implied terrorism, let alone lesser but still vile "name calling"...when it suits THEIR agenda.

lets face it

one certain poster has

labeled  someone a "nonce" (with all that implies) and has STILL not seen fit to appologise...

another has labelled someone a "baby killer" (but I bet wouldnt have the balls to say it to the face a SERVING member of the armed forces)
that same has made racially loaded and terrorism supporting comments against US...as a nation
and has threatened (though obviously he cant ) physical violence against posters

yet those same lefties are some of the first to whine when the boot is on the other foot....

pot...kettle black...comes to mind....

Now I TRY to be fair....

and as it happens I agree with ben warning stormee over the blowing up of mosques....thats NOT acceptable

BUT.....I find it a poor situation when other mods can blatantly do the same...with impunity.....because they are mods

perhaps its just me......but shouldnt the mods just be that little bit better than that??

opinion is one thing.....how you express that is another altogether....

telling Tommy he has the brains of a zabriskan fonteema is one thing...threatening to punch his lights out is another entirely....

I've asked three times for someone to show me where, because I don't remember seeing it, and my memory is bloody good, but I have been away a lot.

go look for yourself....I'm not rakeing back however many pages.....and it isnt like its just ONE post either.....

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Paul Ettinger wrote:



What has skin colour got to do with this?

Being British is a concept, not something genetic, but we have laws here, so is it wrong for wanting people that come heere to respect those laws, the well being of others and their equality?
How would you feel if some Far right immigrants from say Lithuania, wanted to move in next door to you and then started to verbally abuse Mexicans and blacks?
Are you telling me, you would be fine with that, or wish they respected people if they come to the US?

I was talking to Stormee and trying to communicate with him on his level. Your input isn't needed.

Why do you seem to assume that all Brits are white? We have many ethnic people who are proud to be British also and see themselves as British.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

No, it wasn't. It was your online persona, from your vile avatar to the vile hatred, dashed with a heaping helping of ignorance and stupidity, that you post here.

I'll tell you what. Should the Brits you don't like just leave? You just blamed Tommy for Veya's outburst, and you clearly hate the English as much as he does.

Fuck you.

I was thinking that also. There's quite a few Brits on here.

It was in the basement with some other posts that shouldn't have been put there...


I asked eddie to move the non abusive posts back to the main forum for public view...


That became the global warming thread...


Don't know what happened to the other abusive and threatening and racist stuff from veya and flea keeper...

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


It was after I said there were plant species in Canada that require fires to reproduce and survive...

No, it wasn't. It was your online persona, from your vile avatar to the vile hatred, dashed with a heaping helping of ignorance and stupidity, that you post here.

If you think his avatar is unacceptable, why don't you take it down?

Ben_Reilly wrote:Okay, just scanned this and nobody seems to have addressed the second part of my question. IE, if Islam is a threat to Western civilization, what to do about it?

OK - OK...could you get this mental picture;
A newbie {pretend they are of the Islamic faith} wandered in here and noticed the poll - started reading the posts and between the votes and to this point --- became so horrified about the angst and vitriolic insanity around here directed at each other, that they thought they'd need protection from all US! 

 

HoratioTarr wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

I was talking to Stormee and trying to communicate with him on his level. Your input isn't needed.

Why do you seem to assume that all Brits are white?   We have many ethnic people who are proud to be British also and see themselves as British.

Good post!!!


They are also seen as being British!!!


And I'm proud to stand with them as a fellow Brit!!!


As the British identity is more far reaching and widespread than national boundaries... it transcends plenty of those as if they aren't even there... it also goes so much deeper than external physical appearances... it makes colour of skin a superfluous comparative... as it is more of a consciousness... a state of mind... a collective way of thinking...