Here’s an Excellent Question to Ask People Who Are “Cleansing” or “Detoxing”

“[W]hen I ask them what they are trying to get rid of, they aren’t really sure,” said Dr. James H. Grendell, the chief of the division of gastroenterology, hepatology and nutrition at Winthrop-University Hospital in Mineola, N.Y. “I’ve yet to find someone who has specified a toxin they were hoping to be spared.”

Dr. Antoinette Saddler, a gastroenterologist at the George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences, agreed to read through one of many blog posts available online about cleansing. She said she was perplexed from the beginning.
A juice diet rests the stomach, [a post] claimed. “Why does the stomach need resting?” she asked.
She read further. Juices require less of the stomach’s digestive processing, it said. “Who said that was beneficial?” she said.
And then she got to the inevitable detox claim: Juicing “allows the body to have more of the resources it needs to support the phases of detoxification, and even to begin to help remove the cumulative toxins stored in the body.” “What does that even mean?” [Saddler] said. Exasperated, she stopped reading.

To say that drinking juice detoxifies the body isn’t quite the same as claiming leeches suck out poisons, but it’s fairly close.

eddie wrote:We all end up eating, out of pure habit, what we've been given as children.
Vegan and vegetarian children know no different, but the adults that decide to stop eating meat are a mystery to people that still eat meat, perhaps?

I don't know what the fascination is tbh. It's just food and all edible.

What's interesting is I'd imagine that vegetarian-born children almost NEVER eat meat yet a lot of meat-eating children often turn vegetarian when they're older?

Wonder what the stats are on that? Be interested

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh, and eating meat and shooting rabbits is a choice as well, so you're no more entitled to an opinion than vegans.

true...but since the vegan attacks me first in almost every instance.....i'm entitled to bite back...

and for a change us meat munchers have gone on the offensive...and it isnt liked one bit......

see just like the religious zealot the vegan wants to demonise and criticise...without getting it back
and when they do get it back thay play the victim card.....

Lord Foul wrote:

eddie wrote:We all end up eating, out of pure habit, what we've been given as children.
Vegan and vegetarian children know no different, but the adults that decide to stop eating meat are a mystery to people that still eat meat, perhaps?

I don't know what the fascination is tbh. It's just food and all edible.

What's interesting is I'd imagine that vegetarian-born children almost NEVER eat meat yet a lot of meat-eating children often turn vegetarian when they're older?

Wonder what the stats are on that? Be interested

wrong eddie...utterly wrong

see i REALLY...dont care if someone wants to chomp fungus protein all day every day..(quorn ...urgrghhhh)  thats their choice...fine


but f**k off with the childish emotive bunny murdering...which is funny on a forum ...but not when idiot politicians get involved...or bombs start being out under scientists cars..........

Lord Foul wrote:thats not the point...as wolfie pointed out quite adequately....

however you and others seem to "take their part".....

if ye caw wi t craws
ye'll be shot wi t craws....

as the saying goes........

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh, and eating meat and shooting rabbits is a choice as well, so you're no more entitled to an opinion than vegans.

true...but since the vegan attacks me first in almost every instance.....i'm entitled to bite back...

and for a change us meat munchers have gone on the offensive...and it isnt liked one bit......

see just like the religious zealot the vegan wants to demonise and criticise...without getting it back
and when they do get it back thay play the victim card.....

You really have caught Didgeitis - you're even dragging religion into it ...

Let's face it, it's the other way around on this forum - the militant atheists and militant ant-veganites are very hostile and aggressive.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

eddie wrote:We all end up eating, out of pure habit, what we've been given as children.
Vegan and vegetarian children know no different, but the adults that decide to stop eating meat are a mystery to people that still eat meat, perhaps?

I don't know what the fascination is tbh. It's just food and all edible.

What's interesting is I'd imagine that vegetarian-born children almost NEVER eat meat yet a lot of meat-eating children often turn vegetarian when they're older?

Wonder what the stats are on that? Be interested

wrong eddie...utterly wrong

see i REALLY...dont care if someone wants to chomp fungus protein all day every day..(quorn ...urgrghhhh)  thats their choice...fine


but f**k off with the childish emotive bunny murdering...which is funny on a forum ...but not when idiot politicians get involved...or bombs start being out under scientists cars..........

Oh please. You don't mind being childish about vegetarians do you? You just don't like the tables being turned much.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:thats not the point...as wolfie pointed out quite adequately....

however you and others seem to "take their part".....

if ye caw wi t craws
ye'll be shot wi t craws....

as the saying goes........

I think it is the point. On and on you and Wolfman go, and you expect everyone to bow down to you.

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You really have caught Didgeitis - you're even dragging religion into it ...

Let's face it, it's the other way around on this forum - the militant atheists and militant ant-veganites are very hostile and aggressive.

with good reason.....and yet...the ONLY weapon we have used is ridicule.....unlike vegans...

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I think it is the point. On and on you and Wolfman go, and you expect everyone to bow down to you.

isnt it rather the case, as is a common link through your threads, that you wish to post your points unchallenged?

eddie wrote:I don't call people bunny-munchers and if I do I'm joking
I don't have an issued with people eating meat, I'm not a devout animal-lover anyway. Mine is to do with taste. I simply don't like the taste of meat.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I think it is the point. On and on you and Wolfman go, and you expect everyone to bow down to you.

isnt it rather the case, as is a common link through your threads, that you wish to post your points unchallenged?

I think that applies more to you actually Victor.

Lord Foul wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I think that applies more to you actually Victor.

yeah yeah...

so why do you wail so much ALL the time...you tried it here ...simply becasue I compared ONE set of beleifs (veganism) with another (religion)

you tried the victim card......

when the reality is that both have their similarities, of behaviour and methodology....and the comparison is actually little to do with the tenets of a religion.
that it is about the fact that the psychology is much the same

Lord Foul wrote:do you REALLY want me to answer that????

Lord Foul wrote:well in as much as "religion" seems to be a "standard" by which much is measured...its difficult to imagine how one avoids it ....without becoming all "wordy"

i mean a concientious person

"religiously" follows the rules

a fanatical person follows his interest with "religious fervour"

etc etc etc ....

Lord Foul wrote:no excuse ...its a fact....

and comparing one fanaticism with another is also quite reasonable and fair.....It says nothing about the tenets of either....but says volumes about the psychology