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Leaflets in south London mosque calling for the killing of 'ahmadis'
Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
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The silence is deafening here about this...!!!
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What silence? There's not much to say really.
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Tommy Monk wrote:
The silence is deafening here about this...!!!
Sorry, didn't notice this before -- but you're right. Do you think it would be best to launch a huge police operation to figure out who's made terroristic threats against these poor Muslims? They have a right to full protection by the government, do they not?
Bravo, Tommy -- that's showing real compassion. Take an alien or three
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After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
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Does this mean they are fighting about which version of Islam is the right one now?Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
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Aaaaand you'd assume that the trustee is a "lying twat" because ______________!Tommy Monk wrote:Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
Please feel free to fill in the blank with any factual data that you can provide - proving that the TRUSTEE would indeed be lying
Frankly, dear Tommy...given the ability of pond scrum suckers to: 'stir the pot' / 'instigate some heinous feud' / 'feel the compulsion to force a inner faith dispute' ...it's highly plausible that this could be generated by an outside source or an oppositional group wanting ALL OF THEM TO VACATE!
Crap just like that happens quite often over here; and I'm secure in the deep feeling that the hate groups over here aren't those rare idiot-savants that had the 'ORIGINAL IDEA' of planning false information...just to ignite the fuse!
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Miffs2 wrote:Does this mean they are fighting about which version of Islam is the right one now?Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
Nothing new... been going on for a while now... about 1400 years...
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4EVER2 wrote:Aaaaand you'd assume that the trustee is a "lying twat" because ______________!Tommy Monk wrote:Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
Please feel free to fill in the blank with any factual data that you can provide - proving that the TRUSTEE would indeed be lying
Frankly, dear Tommy...given the ability of pond scrum suckers to: 'stir the pot' / 'instigate some heinous feud' / 'feel the compulsion to force a inner faith dispute' ...it's highly plausible that this could be generated by an outside source or an oppositional group wanting ALL OF THEM TO VACATE!
Crap just like that happens quite often over here; and I'm secure in the deep feeling that the hate groups over here aren't those rare idiot-savants that had the 'ORIGINAL IDEA' of planning false information...just to ignite the fuse!
EDL/Britain First etc etc, quite likely.
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4EVER2 wrote:Aaaaand you'd assume that the trustee is a "lying twat" because ______________!Tommy Monk wrote:Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
Please feel free to fill in the blank with any factual data that you can provide - proving that the TRUSTEE would indeed be lying
Frankly, dear Tommy...given the ability of pond scrum suckers to: 'stir the pot' / 'instigate some heinous feud' / 'feel the compulsion to force a inner faith dispute' ...it's highly plausible that this could be generated by an outside source or an oppositional group wanting ALL OF THEM TO VACATE!
Crap just like that happens quite often over here; and I'm secure in the deep feeling that the hate groups over here aren't those rare idiot-savants that had the 'ORIGINAL IDEA' of planning false information...just to ignite the fuse!
Waffle...
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Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
Wow, looking to protect Muslims, coming out as firmly against privatization ... ? You've become quite the lefty, Tommy!
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Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
good and agree.
there is issues within islam but the answer is not a discriminatory law or to demonise their whole communtiy, as those that will be our best allies in fighting fundmentalism in Islam will be moderate Muslims.
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When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for not being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
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Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for now being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
And you were there when the pamphlets were being printed - you were there when they were delivered - you were part of the entire process
So you've become certifiable that this horrid paper work is to be believed...
because
Don't you have ANY OTHER hobbies...that would be better vested with your energies?
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4EVER2 wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for now being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
And you were there when the pamphlets were being printed - you were there when they were delivered - you were part of the entire process
So you've become certifiable that this horrid paper work is to be believed...
because
Don't you have ANY OTHER hobbies...that would be better vested with your energies?
Well they are not denying they exist are they or that they were in the Mosque
It may help if you read the article
"We have not published any pamphlet of that kind. This is nothing to do with our mosque. Someone might have put it there and taken from there with malicious intentions," he added.
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4EVER2 wrote:Aaaaand you'd assume that the trustee is a "lying twat" because ______________!Tommy Monk wrote:Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.
Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.
The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".
A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35928848
Yes of course they were you lying twat!!!
Please feel free to fill in the blank with any factual data that you can provide - proving that the TRUSTEE would indeed be lying
Frankly, dear Tommy...given the ability of pond scrum suckers to: 'stir the pot' / 'instigate some heinous feud' / 'feel the compulsion to force a inner faith dispute' ...it's highly plausible that this could be generated by an outside source or an oppositional group wanting ALL OF THEM TO VACATE!
Crap just like that happens quite often over here; and I'm secure in the deep feeling that the hate groups over here aren't those rare idiot-savants that had the 'ORIGINAL IDEA' of planning false information...just to ignite the fuse!
I do find your propensity to use just about every key on the fucking keyboard in one message highly irritating.
Thought I'd get that off my chest.
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Didgy-Dooo...
And you'd be better served if you were able to stay involved with the entire discussion and knew what Tommy and I had discussed previously ---
Or continue to impale yourself so efficiently with your own petard...it's quite amusing how well you do that!
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veya_victaous wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
good and agree.
there is issues within islam but the answer is not a discriminatory law or to demonise their whole communtiy, as those that will be our best allies in fighting fundmentalism in Islam will be moderate Muslims.
You reckon?
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HoratioTarr wrote:4EVER2 wrote:
Aaaaand you'd assume that the trustee is a "lying twat" because ______________!
Please feel free to fill in the blank with any factual data that you can provide - proving that the TRUSTEE would indeed be lying
Frankly, dear Tommy...given the ability of pond scrum suckers to: 'stir the pot' / 'instigate some heinous feud' / 'feel the compulsion to force a inner faith dispute' ...it's highly plausible that this could be generated by an outside source or an oppositional group wanting ALL OF THEM TO VACATE!
Crap just like that happens quite often over here; and I'm secure in the deep feeling that the hate groups over here aren't those rare idiot-savants that had the 'ORIGINAL IDEA' of planning false information...just to ignite the fuse!
I do find your propensity to use just about every key on the fucking keyboard in one message highly irritating.
Thought I'd get that off my chest.
Thought I'd get that off of my chest too!
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4EVER2 wrote:And you'd be better served if you were able to stay involved with the entire discussion and knew what Tommy and I had discussed previously ---
Or continue to impale yourself so efficiently with your own petard...it's quite amusing how well you do that!
You'll find the expression is 'hoist by your own petard'. A petard being a small bomb...it might be rather tricky to try and impale oneself on a globular object.
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Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
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Tommy Monk wrote:Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
Aren't you assuming that YOU know who/what/how they arrived at the mosque?
A petard is a small bomb used for blowing up gates and walls when breaching fortifications. It is of French origin and dates back to the 16th century. A typical petard was a conical or rectangular metal device containing 2–3 kg of gunpowder, with a slow match for a fuse.
And when it's shoved up ones one butt {anal track} then the self-inflicted one will not only get a RAISE out of the petard --- it becomes a impaled object should the fuse malfunction! It's a phrase - just far nicer then telling someone that they are a "FUCKWIT" LOL
Happy to clarify for you HT...but that's only because you've called me 'Aspberger' once upon a time! Now have you nothing better to do then
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Isn't that for the police to investigate ..!?
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Tommy Monk wrote:Isn't that for the police to investigate ..!?
And your pushing this 'STILL' because
Have you contacted the local authorities and inquired about your concern? Seriously, Tommy if this has caused you such great annoyance then it behooves you to follow up --- find out what can be done.
Frankly, it serves no purpose to get upset out here about a lack of rejoinders on this topic --- I can't help you --- I live over in America.
I don't agree with anyone trashing a religious site, PERIOD.
And something this ugly would possibly fall into a 'HATE CRIME' by the very definition of the word here in America...but I do not know what laws you have where you live!
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Nobody has trashed a religious site... it is the religious site that is displaying leaflets calling for the murder of others...
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Tommy Monk wrote:Nobody has trashed a religious site... it is the religious site that is displaying leaflets calling for the murder of others...
And you'd be privy to that 'CRIME STOPPING INFO' because ???
You've already solved this and you've not chosen to explain what you discovered? You are very - very speedy for a 'under cover law enforcement' human; care to share your methods
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I suggest you read the op...
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Gee Whiz...I soooo enjoy chasing your comments in this continual circle but it does grow irksome; So yet again let me repeat my self!Tommy Monk wrote:Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
I HAVE READ THE ARTICLE AND YOU KEEP MOVING THE GOAL POSTS...sadly this seems a method of yours but we are all very unique in our methods of open communication!!!
So, who were the "PEOPLE" that did the supposed crime?
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Are you saying that the printing and displaying of leaflets inciting murder/genocide of another religious minority is not a crime...!!!???
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HoratioTarr wrote:veya_victaous wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:After the recent murder of this 'ahmahdi' man...?
http://news.sky.com/story/1674024/murdered-shopkeeper-disrespected-islam
Of course I think this is a serious/national security issue and deserves the same level of attention as others!!!
good and agree.
there is issues within islam but the answer is not a discriminatory law or to demonise their whole communtiy, as those that will be our best allies in fighting fundmentalism in Islam will be moderate Muslims.
You reckon?
Yes HT, they are.
Don’t that the Epic failure that is the Uk be any representation for the wider world,
Most peoples are not as innately incompetent as the European.
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Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for not being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
Yes tommy you do understand that is like the Christians that say people will go to Hell if they support Gay marriage.
These people are fundmentalists because they are more concerned about what some else is doing instead of making sure they are doing good.... like the 'new athiests' or Westboro church.
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veya_victaous wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for not being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
Yes tommy you do understand that is like the Christians that say people will go to Hell if they support Gay marriage.
These people are fundmentalists because they are more concerned about what some else is doing instead of making sure they are doing good.... like the 'new athiests' or Westboro church.
LOL I remember the minister preaching to us at Sunday School that if we are not good christians then we will go to the burning fire
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veya_victaous wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for not being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
Yes tommy you do understand that is like the Christians that say people will go to Hell if they support Gay marriage.
These people are fundmentalists because they are more concerned about what some else is doing instead of making sure they are doing good.... like the 'new athiests' or Westboro church.
No it is not.
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Tommy Monk wrote:veya_victaous wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:When you have leaflets openly displayed in a mosque calling for the death of others for not being the 'right' kind of Muslim. ..
Yes tommy you do understand that is like the Christians that say people will go to Hell if they support Gay marriage.
These people are fundmentalists because they are more concerned about what some else is doing instead of making sure they are doing good.... like the 'new athiests' or Westboro church.
No it is not.
Ok say New athiest aren't doing it YET
but give didge some time to make the signs
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Tommy Monk wrote:Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
You haven't explained the plot. Nor who the bad guys are, nor what the motive is???
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Original Quill wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
You haven't explained the plot. Nor who the bad guys are, nor what the motive is???
It's possible there's a link to the murder of Asad Shah, the shopkeeper who was murdered by another Muslim. Mr Shah was an Ahmadi Muslim, and his murderer has indicated that he didn't approve of that. If there's no direct link, it could indicate the rise of some kind of sectarian problem.
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Original Quill wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Shouldn't people be getting prosecuted for these leaflets inciting murder...!?
You haven't explained the plot. Nor who the bad guys are, nor what the motive is???
Trying reading the op...
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Tommy Monk wrote:Original Quill wrote:
You haven't explained the plot. Nor who the bad guys are, nor what the motive is???
Trying reading the op...
Try reading my post:
No plot is mentioned.
No bad guys are identified.
No motive is specified.
The OP is a monumental dearth of information. What do you propose we do? Release some white doves?
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Stormee wrote:All mosques on our island should, ball & chained then bulldozed, those who harbour criminal activity should first be fined £mega.
Not original. Henry VIII did that to all Roman Catholic monasteries in 1534. Been there, done that.
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Original Quill wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
Trying reading the op...
Try reading my post:
No plot is mentioned.
No bad guys are identified.
No motive is specified.
The OP is a monumental dearth of information. What do you propose we do? Release some white doves?
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Toaha Qureshi is not an accomplished spinner.
Listen if you like to the trustee of the mosque in Stockwell, south London, from 24 minutes into this BBC investigative report.
You will hear Mr Qureshi claim that the mosque’s connection to the anti-Ahmadi Pakistani group Khatm-e-Nubuwwat is limited to some “guidance” and “literature”. There is “no other link”. “No other link”? Really? Qureshi is challenged by the BBC about a Khatm meeting at his mosque in 2015. He says he did not know about the meeting. He was “on holiday” during the summer, and maybe it happened then.
Here’s the poster for a Khatm meeting at the mosque in December 2015. Mehmoud ul-Hassan, an imam at the mosque, is listed as host and “Director of Khatme Nubuwat Stockwell”.
Qureshi goes on to insist that Khatm is not “a hate organisation”.
So, on top of the meeting in Mr Qureshi’s mosque, what about the “kill Ahmadis” leaflets found by the BBC in the mosque earlier this month? The answer is low and essentially amounts to further incitement to hatred. Qureshi suggests that Ahmadis, possibly working for the BBC, planted the leaflets. In fact, hatred charges in Pakistan are fabricated by Ahmadis in order to gain refuge in the UK, you see. Qureshi also denies that Khatm wants Ahmadis to be killed. The truth is that Mr Qureshi’s mosque is very closely connected to Khatm, from ideology to agitation against Ahmadis. The doctrine does demand death for Ahmadis. It’s nice to see this man finally taken apart in the media.
Mind you, none of this was all that hard to figure out. “Khatme” is written on the mosque’s entrance. A bit of a clue there!
Or simply look up the man’s record. According to this Pakistani news report, Qureshi was so incensed by a diplomat speaking up for Ahmadis that he called for him to stand trial. For blasphemy and treason, no less.
Tooting imam Sulaiman Ghani is another reliable indicator for extremism in south London. Sure enough, here he is visiting and backing the Stockwell Khatm crew in 2015. The video caption on his Facebook post reads:
Such a hope seems to be misplaced.
Quite misplaced.
http://hurryupharry.org/2016/04/12/toaha-qureshi-meets-auntie/
Listen if you like to the trustee of the mosque in Stockwell, south London, from 24 minutes into this BBC investigative report.
You will hear Mr Qureshi claim that the mosque’s connection to the anti-Ahmadi Pakistani group Khatm-e-Nubuwwat is limited to some “guidance” and “literature”. There is “no other link”. “No other link”? Really? Qureshi is challenged by the BBC about a Khatm meeting at his mosque in 2015. He says he did not know about the meeting. He was “on holiday” during the summer, and maybe it happened then.
Here’s the poster for a Khatm meeting at the mosque in December 2015. Mehmoud ul-Hassan, an imam at the mosque, is listed as host and “Director of Khatme Nubuwat Stockwell”.
Qureshi goes on to insist that Khatm is not “a hate organisation”.
So, on top of the meeting in Mr Qureshi’s mosque, what about the “kill Ahmadis” leaflets found by the BBC in the mosque earlier this month? The answer is low and essentially amounts to further incitement to hatred. Qureshi suggests that Ahmadis, possibly working for the BBC, planted the leaflets. In fact, hatred charges in Pakistan are fabricated by Ahmadis in order to gain refuge in the UK, you see. Qureshi also denies that Khatm wants Ahmadis to be killed. The truth is that Mr Qureshi’s mosque is very closely connected to Khatm, from ideology to agitation against Ahmadis. The doctrine does demand death for Ahmadis. It’s nice to see this man finally taken apart in the media.
Mind you, none of this was all that hard to figure out. “Khatme” is written on the mosque’s entrance. A bit of a clue there!
Or simply look up the man’s record. According to this Pakistani news report, Qureshi was so incensed by a diplomat speaking up for Ahmadis that he called for him to stand trial. For blasphemy and treason, no less.
Or see the latest accounts of Aalami Majilise Tahaffuze Khatme Nubuwwat, the registered British charity where Mr Qureshi is a trustee who signs official documents. They include this note:Renowned London-based intellectual Toaha Qureshi (Member British Empire) has said that the statement of Wajid Shamsul Hassan, former Pakistani envoy to UK, in which he dubbed Pakistani parliament’s unanimous decision to declare Qadianis non-Muslim wrong, is condemnable and he should be tried under blasphemy and treason from constitution laws.
That’s this Khatm lot, represented by an “overseas office” at Mr Qureshi’s mosque. On the website you will find ream upon ream of brutal hatred. A sample– see how just Islam is with “apostates”:9) Associated Organisations
Aalami Majilise Tahaffuze Khatme Nubuwwat
Hazoori Bagh Road
Multan Pakistan
Charity is registered in Pakistan.
Ahmadis, however, do not merit even the three days granted to an “apostate” to choose Islam or death. No, they are “dualist infidels” who deserve no mercy. The trouble is that the Pakistani government is too weak when it comes to “Qadiyanis” (a pejorative term for Ahmadis). Those annoying Jews and Christians are in the way as well.Why do then people disapprove of punishing a person who rebels against Allah’s Prophet (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and say: Do not put him to death! Islam does concede three days’ grace to enable the apostate to remove his doubts and come back into the Islamic fold. If he begs for mercy or repents, Shari’at grants him his life back. But if he is adamant and refuses to renounce his apostasy then Allah’s sacred soil must be cleaned of his foul existence.
In addition, we have been here before. From a BBC report in 2011:DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APOSTATE AND DUALIST-INFIDEL:
Shari’at enjoins upon us to preach to the apostate. If he as a result of preaching, undertakes penitence (‘Tauba’), he will save himself from capital punishment but this does not apply to a dualist-infidel. There is another saying from Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa, and one from Imam Ahmad, (Allah’s blessings on them all), that penitence (‘Tauba’) of a dualist-infidel is not acceptable because he has committed the crime of dualist infidelity (Zindaqa), i.e., he applied false coating of Islam over his ‘Kufr.’
I repeat, he has sold pork as mutton and wine as ‘Zam-Zam.’ This is a crime which is not excusable and is certainly punishable with capital sentence.
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CONCESSIONAL TREATMENT OF QADIYANI BY Muslims
By Law of Shari’at, they should be awarded capital sentence because they are Dualist-infidels ;’Zindiq’), calling Islam ‘Kufr’ and ‘Kufr’ Islam.
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But the Government of Pakistan has given them a concession. The qadiyani occupy high posts and offices in Government administration and .public services. In spite of these concessions, they appeal to the United Nations and to the Courts of Jews and Christians, clamouring that the Pakistan Government has snatched their rights.
Uh huh.Leaflets circulating in Pakistan calling for the murder of members of the Ahmadi Muslim sect directed readers to a website naming Stockwell Mosque.
The website mentioned on the leaflets in turn advised people with queries to contact the mosque in Stockwell.
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Angry trustees at the mosque said its name had been misused and it had no links to the Pakistani organisation.
Trustee Toaha Qureshi said: “We don’t have any linkage with this organisation which is promoting hate.”
Tooting imam Sulaiman Ghani is another reliable indicator for extremism in south London. Sure enough, here he is visiting and backing the Stockwell Khatm crew in 2015. The video caption on his Facebook post reads:
Now you might hope prominent and important locals had been working against Qureshi and his mosque for many years. After all, south London has long been at the heart of anti-Ahmadi campaigns in this country, right out in the open.“Our visit to the Khatme Nabuwwat Centre in Stockwell. It is our duty to help and support the effort in safeguarding and protecting our Imaan, a fundamental belief of our Deen.”
Such a hope seems to be misplaced.
Quite misplaced.
http://hurryupharry.org/2016/04/12/toaha-qureshi-meets-auntie/
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