Germany shocked by Cologne New Year gang assaults on women

Raggamuffin wrote:There was no need for the Homer Simpson thing. Some people do start duplicate threads on here, so it's polite to just link to the first one, unless you think someone is doing it on purpose of course.

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm just laughing about how many posts this thread has now got, which bumps it right up the list, while your one is still languishing at the bottom!!!





Most amusing!!!

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm just laughing about how many posts this thread has now got, which bumps it right up the list, while your one is still languishing at the bottom!!!





Most amusing!!!

lol Without actually commenting on the actual topic

Score, at least mine had a comment on the topic

Seriously cannot stop laughing, what with you still unable to move on and Rags trying to pontificate over what is polite, as if she is the forums politest poster.

Makes for a Priceless thread

Raggamuffin wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

lol Without actually commenting on the actual topic

Score, at least mine had a comment on the topic

Seriously cannot stop laughing, what with you still unable to move on and Rags trying to pontificate over what is polite, as if she is the forums politest poster.

Makes for a Priceless thread

Well I am

Tommy Monk wrote:REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year’s Eve

Just five arrests have been made by German police after central Cologne was transformed into a war-zone on New Year’s Eve, as an estimated 1,000 migrants celebrated by launching fireworks into crowds and sexually assaulting German women caught up in the chaos.

The sordid details of the horrifying sexual assaults and attacks made against ordinary Germans by large gangs of migrants in Cologne in the early hours of Friday morning are just now emerging.

Far from a small number of sex assaults reported to have been made by German speaking men in initial reports on New Year’s Day, dozens of women are now reported to have been molested and “raped”, while dozens more men have been assaulted and robbed.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/04/revealed-1000-migrants-brawl-rape-sexually-assault-steal-one-german-train-station-new-years-eve/




Police in Germany are investigating an alarming series of sexual assaults on women trying to celebrate the New Year by large groups of single men “of Arab or North African appearance”.

Authorities in the city of Cologne are to hold a crisis meeting on Tuesday after police described a group of some 1,000 men who took over the area around the main station on New Year’s Eve.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12082366/German-women-report-string-of-sexual-assaults-by-Arab-and-North-African-men.html




And here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046




I bet Germans are loving Merkel right now...!?

Ben_Reilly wrote:Interesting perspective -- 1 in 31 U.S. adults is under some form of correctional control (i.e. in prison, on probation or on parole) for criminal offenses.

If the figure of roughly 1,000 young men holds up, that means that only one of every 800 refugees Germany has taken in were involved in this.

Your collective reaction is the sort of thing that makes people not take the right seriously.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Interesting perspective -- 1 in 31 U.S. adults is under some form of correctional control (i.e. in prison, on probation or on parole) for criminal offenses.

If the figure of roughly 1,000 young men holds up, that means that only one of every 800 refugees Germany has taken in were involved in this.

Your collective reaction is the sort of thing that makes people not take the right seriously.

It's got nothing to do with the "right". It's nice to see that you treat this kind of thing so lightly and use it to score some kind of silly point.

Also, only two people other than you have commented on the actual story.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Interesting perspective -- 1 in 31 U.S. adults is under some form of correctional control (i.e. in prison, on probation or on parole) for criminal offenses.

If the figure of roughly 1,000 young men holds up, that means that only one of every 800 refugees Germany has taken in were involved in this.

Your collective reaction is the sort of thing that makes people not take the right seriously.

It's got nothing to do with the "right". It's nice to see that you treat this kind of thing so lightly and use it to score some kind of silly point.

Also, only two people other than you have commented on the actual story.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's got nothing to do with the "right". It's nice to see that you treat this kind of thing so lightly and use it to score some kind of silly point.

Also, only two people other than you have commented on the actual story.

What am I supposed to say? "Gosh, that's awful. You shouldn't do that." Those are the obvious sentiments and I don't think you should have to say them in order not to come across as approving of these deeds.

What I won't say is, "I bet Germany regrets taking in all those desperate families now!" 1,000 of them don't get to speak for the whole, I'd think anyone with half a brain (or heart) would understand that.

Lord Foul wrote:this was...predictable

and there will be more

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:this was...predictable

and there will be more

Wouldn't you predict that within a population of 800,000, there would be at least 1,000 or so criminals? What a stupid observation.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:this was...predictable

and there will be more

Wouldn't you predict that within a population of 800,000, there would be at least 1,000 or so criminals? What a stupid observation.

It's not just general criminal behaviour though is it? It wasn't spread out over time, and it involved crimes against women in particular in a couple of particular areas. If 80 women had been targeted in one area in the US in one day, wouldn't you be concerned?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not just general criminal behaviour though is it? It wasn't spread out over time, and it involved crimes against women in particular in a couple of particular areas. If 80 women had been targeted in one area in the US in one day, wouldn't you be concerned?

Eighty women are raped every hour in New York City!

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not just general criminal behaviour though is it? It wasn't spread out over time, and it involved crimes against women in particular in a couple of particular areas. If 80 women had been targeted in one area in the US in one day, wouldn't you be concerned?

Eighty women are raped every hour in New York City!

All in one place?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

All in one place?

I have to correct myself on that claim, actually (the lesson -- don't ever trust the Google summary of a site). However, in the U.S. as a whole, a woman is assaulted every nine seconds: http://www.ncadv.org/learn/statistics

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not just general criminal behaviour though is it? It wasn't spread out over time, and it involved crimes against women in particular in a couple of particular areas. If 80 women had been targeted in one area in the US in one day, wouldn't you be concerned?

Eighty women are raped every hour in New York City!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Eighty women are raped every hour in New York City!

Would that be almost exclusively being white women raped by blacks by any chance..?

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

All in one place?

I have to correct myself on that claim, actually (the lesson -- don't ever trust the Google summary of a site). However, in the U.S. as a whole, a woman is assaulted every nine seconds: http://www.ncadv.org/learn/statistics

But by a gang a thousand strong on one night in one place?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

But by a gang a thousand strong on one night in one place?

I'm not saying ignore it. I'm saying, don't make this into a reason not to accept the other 799,000 refugees.

Let's imagine Germany's refugee population was a single city. Would you deport a city of 800,000 residents because 1,000 of them went on a crime spree one night?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not just general criminal behaviour though is it? It wasn't spread out over time, and it involved crimes against women in particular in a couple of particular areas. If 80 women had been targeted in one area in the US in one day, wouldn't you be concerned?

Eighty women are raped every hour in New York City!

Would that be almost exclusively being white women raped by blacks by any chance..?

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

But by a gang a thousand strong on one night in one place?

I'm not saying ignore it. I'm saying, don't make this into a reason not to accept the other 799,000 refugees.

Let's imagine Germany's refugee population was a single city. Would you deport a city of 800,000 residents because 1,000 of them went on a crime spree one night?

Where have I stated not accept refugees?
My point is on how many people were let in without any form of checks, which is clearly now effecting Germany to their own failings here.
Would I deport all 1000 of these involved in this incident if they were claiming refugee statusn?
They would be on the next planes out of the country without a shadow of doubt

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Where have I stated not accept refugees?
My point is on how many people were let in without any form of checks, which is clearly now effecting Germany to their own failings here.
Would I deport all 1000 of these involved in this incident if they were claiming refugee statusn?
They would be on the next planes out of the country without a shadow of doubt

I was responding to the comments that suggested Germany should regret taking in refugees.