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A young boy runs through a field carrying a Canadian flag, the sun lit behind him as the country’s red and white national colors flap in the wind. Above the photo, large text reads, “Welcome to Canada,” with the Arabic transliteration below: Ahlan wa sahlan. “Welcome.”



This is the cover of Thursday’s Toronto Star, Canada’s largest-circulation newspaper, as the country prepares to welcome the first tranche of Syrian refugees in the newly elected Liberal government’s resettlement program. The front-page photo is accompanied by a heartfelt editorial welcoming the freshly arrived Syrians and briefing them on life in Canada.




“You’ll find the place a little bigger than Damascus or Aleppo, and a whole lot chillier. But friendly for all that. We’re a city that cherishes its diversity; it’s our strength,” reads the editorial. “It’s been a long trek, but you are no longer refugees. Your days of being strangers in a strange land are over.”


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who plans to meet the refugees as they arrive, told the House of Commons on Wednesday that the first plane carrying more than 160 refugees was expected to land from Beirut at 9:15 p.m. Eastern Thursday at Toronto’s international airport. A second plane is scheduled to carry more refugees from Beirut to Montreal on Saturday.


“Resettling refugees demonstrates our commitment to Canadians, and to the world, that Canada understands that we can and must do more,” Trudeau said during the question period in Parliament.



Trudeau’s government committed to resettling 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of February next year, with 10,000 set to arrive by the end of this year. Canadian Immigration Minister John McCallum told reporters at a news conference Wednesday that 11,932 refugee applications were already being processed in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey — the three countries with the largest populations of Syrian refugees. In preparation for the influx of newcomers, temporary processing centers have been set up at airports in Montreal and Toronto as Canadian authorities transition refugees into permanent housing across the country.



The first wave of Canada’s resettlement program comes as anti-Muslim rhetoric continues to rise in the United States in the wake of terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, California. On Monday, real estate mogul and Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump proposed “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”


Trump’s comments have been met with both outcry and support in America and mark a major political shift as the nature of Islam, and Muslims in general, becomes one of the domineering topics of the U.S. election cycle so far. A new poll released Wednesday by the Washington-based Brookings Institution found that “American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan.” According to the poll’s findings, 67 percent of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, contrasted with only 41 percent of Republicans. When asked about Islam in general, 51 percent of Democrats view the religion favorably, compared to 27 percent of Republicans.



Canadians generally have more positive views. Polls in September found that three-quarters of Canadians wanted to accept more refugees into the country. However, a November poll conducted after the Paris attacks and the announcement of the Liberal government’s new policy saw a drop in support, with 51 percent opposing Ottawa’s measures.



Trudeau had made the 25,000-refugee target an important element of his campaign platform as early as last March and doubled down as Canada’s October election approached. Former Prime Minister Stephen Harper of the Conservative Party had maintained a hard line on Syria refugees, claiming national security was more important than the humanitarian crisis. However, popular sentiment began to shift after the photo of a dead Syrian toddler, who had washed ashore in Turkey as his family began to make their way to Canada, grabbed international headlines in September. Yet Harper did not change his tone, deriding the use of the niqab, or Islamic face veil, during a debate and railing against the dangers of Muslim immigration. Trudeau and other Harper critics seized upon this, describing the Conservative leader’s statements as un-Canadian.



In the wake of the Paris attacks that killed 130, the Trudeau government has slowed — but not discarded — the refugee policy that originally planned to bring 25,000 Syrians to Canada by Jan. 1, 2016.


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Yay for Justin Trudeau!!!!!!!

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:07 am

pfft the cure is in the hands of the surrounding community showing them the freedom that is secularism.
That the 'new' community they have joined is better than the one they left....

Muslims are not an issue in your country anyway, it is Brits that are the problem, they have an issue with the fact that Muslims exist in the UK at all. And they are vocal about that fact and  quite frankly I cant see how anyone cannot expect the very limited animosity British Muslims show towards after they get treated they way they do by British society.

You lot just are going "we have tried nothing and were all out of ideas it's hopeless" and on scale of things there is not even problems in the UK, that couldn't be solved with a little bit of entrepreneurial spirit and innovation. the one and only problem is you need more money, and the UK seems to prefer to spend time blaming various groups of citizens for the money spent rather than earning more.
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:22 am

thing is veya..I'm not interested in their lives, thats for them to live

and i would resent anyone pokeing around in mine....I'm not one of those noisy incredibly irritating nosey buggers that has to know what everyone else is up to

if I was ever to need help with something I'd ask

if anyone asked me for help I would if I could...even abdul up the road

like when sone eighbours just over the road went on holidayy
they have a lot of pets...

the pet sitter they had (a professional set up) finished the friday night before...as they were due back on the saturday.....they were seriously delayed in france

so they phoned me

I got no keys

break in if you have to says him

now as it was no "breaking" was needed

an illicit set of picklocks and the knowlege of how to use them gained many years ago, along with the code of their security system soon had the job in hand...and I found the spare keys the pet sitter had used in the internal letter box...

so for the next 3 days I looked after their menagerie...

no probs.....

and you know what...no one around looked askance at me clearly "picking" the lock...

why..because every one in the village actually knows me quite well...i dont know 90% of them but THEY know me

for a particular and very good reason....

and I have a good "rep"
a pillock pillar of the community I am...apparantly. Due to the fact i spent 4 years on my spare time as scientific advisor and one of two liason officers to the "fight the land fill committee" we had to create to fight of one of those filthy things which was proposed only 200M from one of our schools....

we won..hands down

AND we were able to force the removal of two senior council staff for taking backhanders

I have good eyes, ears and a penchant for carrying covert recording devices.... Welcome to Canada, Where the Prime Minister Meets Refugees at the Airport - Page 3 202592697 unfortunately the evidence we obtained wasnt quite up to the standard needed to be able to get a prosecution, but it was sufficient to embarass the council into "moving them on" so to speak.

a good time all round Laughing

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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:30 am

veya_victaous wrote:pfft the cure is in the hands of the surrounding community showing them the freedom that is secularism.


yeah right ..just try getting one of the uptight buggers down the local.....


That the 'new' community they have joined is better than the one they left....

Muslims are not an issue in your country anyway, it is Brits that are the problem, they have an issue with the fact that Muslims exist in the UK at all. And they are vocal about that fact and  quite frankly I cant see how anyone cannot expect the very limited animosity British Muslims show towards after they get treated they way they do by British society.

You lot just are going "we have tried nothing and were all out of ideas it's hopeless" and on scale of things there is not even problems in the UK, that couldn't be solved with a little bit of entrepreneurial spirit and innovation. the one and only problem is you need more money, and the UK seems to prefer to spend time blaming various groups of citizens for the money spent rather than earning more.

money doesnt solve the fact that  they have and will again harrass our girls on a night out
it doesnt solve the problem that there are areas where certainly gays dare not go

and it wont solve the BIGGEST problem which is implementing what would be YOUR answer to that...which would doubtless be to have a gang of lads follow the girls and kick seven bells out of em (which I also think is a damn fine solution)

and that problem is that the lefty luvvies would be up in arms screaming race hate.....

add to that the fact that the luvvies and the nutcase faction of the Muslims have cooked up this "radicalisation nonsense" between them and now got it firmly embedded in the psyche of those Muslims so inclined

they would do everything to cast the ensuing rumpus as an attack on Muslims by whiteys

and shout how by protecting our girls we were radicalising them even more.....



and everything to hide/disguise/ minimise the real fact that it was due to the Muslims trouble makers harassing the girls....

add to that that the POLICE cant/wont do anything about such harrasment, until and unless something serious happens...and then we cant trust them to act properly


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the problem YOU have veya is that you dont live here , you have sod all idea of what is going on,have absolutely bugger all idea of what has happened historically and you have even less idea of the barriers that stand in the way of any sensible solution....
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Post by veya_victaous Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:57 am

I cant really relate to the harassment of females as 'Shelias' are the most fearsome dangerous creature that lives down under
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I don't need to live somewhere to see when someone is being an asshat. it doesn't take much to see that a lot of the issues stem from the locals hostility towards migrants. 
so they have been forced to group together because of unreasonable hostility to individuals due to nothing but them being migrants, creating these migrant Ghettos where Migrant Hostility towards locals breeds.


Also you don't need the lads, you have police the issue in ALL these cases is the LAW that exists hasn't been applied because of cowardice.
Now this PC wankerism that the UK is Still Practicing doesn't work in the manner you fools are trying, it doesn't mean you cant say something for fear of offending. it is that you treat Individuals like Individuals. which means if an Individual breaks the law they are arrested their religion is NOT TAKEN into account at all, as that what is Required by Secularist Ideals, to which our nations are devoted.
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:01 am

now we are getting somewhere...

IF what you are saying is that we need a good shaking up, then I'd agree....we need a bloody revolution....
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Post by veya_victaous Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:17 am

I must admit the Left in Britain seem to be 'wandering the wilderness' when it comes to leadership and direction.

mind you our left are pretty weak with exception of the Greens which are one of the few parties to be consistent with their policies. Australian Labour has always been Union based but Unions are not so relevant anymore as those working conditions have been legislated.
greens is this weird mix of Affluent Inner city types and Rural Conservationists, so you have the Yuppy and the Swagman  (Bush hermit scratch ) on the same team.
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Post by Original Quill Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:26 am

veya_victaous wrote:I must admit the Left in Britain seem to be 'wandering the wilderness' when it comes to leadership and direction.

I have to agree. In pre-Blair days they were a lively lot, and in the front of the progressive movement. I can't figure out whether they are cowed, or are they just tired?

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Post by nicko Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:46 am

It's nether, their just real good lefty's.
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:36 am

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veya_victaous wrote:I must admit the Left in Britain seem to be 'wandering the wilderness' when it comes to leadership and direction.

I have to agree.  In pre-Blair days they were a lively lot, and in the front of the progressive movement.  I can't figure out whether they are cowed, or are they just tired?

Much to our disgust, Blair turned us into 'Tory lite'.  Not anymore.  Many of the Greens are now joining us again. 

Veya, policies that the Greens had taken over have now come back to the Labour party and people are still joining hand over fist.

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