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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:54 am

Slovakia’s Prime Minister has warned that the country will fight against immigration from Muslim countries to prevent attacks such as the Paris shooting and Cologne sexual assaults, it has been reported.
Prime Minister Robert Fico made the comments while declaring that multi-culturalism is “a fiction.”
He told reporters that he would resist the European Commission’s plan for mandatory quotas to share 120,000 asylum seekers among the EU’s member states. He said: “Not only are we refusing mandatory quotas, we will never make a voluntary decision that would lead to formation of a united Muslim community in Slovakia. 
“Multi-culturalism is a fiction. Once you let migrants in, you can face such problems”, he said referring to the Paris shootings in November and the recent allegations of mass sexual assaults in Cologne.


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:44 pm

I very much doubt they will be able to do any such stance, unless they left the EU, even then they would have a hard time doing so.
Its wrong to discrminate against people on any level, no matter if Muslim.
What should happen is that people are properly vetted.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:00 pm

Yes they have the right idea aright!

There was once a part of Serbia that let huge numbers of Muslim Albanians in... then when there was enough Muslims there, the Muslims started kicking off and said that it was theirs and claimed independence... they then ransacked and destroyed churches...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes they have the right idea aright!

There was once a part of Serbia that let huge numbers of Muslim Albanians in... then when there was enough Muslims there,  the Muslims started kicking off and said that it was theirs and claimed independence... they then ransacked and destroyed churches...


Your history is so poor its beyond belief.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:17 pm

It is a matter of national security to keep out hostile invaders.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:20 pm

Kosavo....

http://1389blog.com/2015/01/02/150-orthodox-monasteries-and-churches-destroyed-by-kosovar-albanian-Muslims/
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:22 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is a matter of national security to keep out hostile invaders.


Wow nothing to back up your previous fabrication then?

Its the duty of any nation to keep out hostile invaders, but many Muslims are not hostile invaders.
If you take the approach to keep out extremists, this rule should aplly to any extremists, whether racist, religious, homophobic etc.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:24 pm

That includes all Muslims then as they are all three!!!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:25 pm

Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide. The International Court of Justice, cleared the Republic of Serbia of direct involvement in genocide, but found that it had failed to prevent mass killings, rapes, and ethnic cleansing. The war crimes were usually carried out on ethnic and religious grounds and were primarily directed against civilians (Albanians, Croats, Bosniaks). Several United Nations bodies have judged that the aim of these war crimes in various wars was to create an ethnically pure Serbian state, or "Greater Serbia", encompassing Serbia as well as the Serb-populated areas in former Yugoslavia.After the wars in the 1990s, many senior military and political leaders were convicted of war crimes, some of them are still on trial, such as Vojislav Šešelj and Radovan Karadžić. Others, including Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić were not apprehended by Serbian authorities until 2011, but are now on trial.



The Tribunal claimed that about 170,000 Croats were expelled from territories Serbian forces sought to control.[32][33] Rebel Croatian Serbs' forces together with Serbian military and paramilitary forces[6] committed numerous war crimes and massacres in Republic of Croatia:

  • Baćin massacre
  • Bruška massacre
  • Dalj massacre (led by notorious war criminal Arkan)
  • Erdut massacre
  • Lovas massacre
  • Saborsko massacre
  • Široka Kula massacre
  • Škabrnja massacre
  • Voćin massacre
  • Vukovar massacre

There were also prison camps, where Croatian prisoners of war and civilians were kept by Serbian authorities.

  • Begejci camp (Logor Begejci) in Begejci near Zrenjanin, Serbia.
  • Sremska Mitrovica camp in Sremska Mitrovica, Serbia.
  • Stajićevo camp (Logor Stajićevo) in Stajićevo near Zrenjanin.

According to Croatian Association of Prisoners in Serbian Concentration Camps, a total of 8,000 Croatian civilians and Prisoners of war (a large number after the fall of Vukovar) went through Serb prison camps such as Sremska Mitrovica camp, Stajićevo camp, Niš camp and many others where many were heavily abused and tortured. A total of 300 people never returned from them.[citation needed] A total of 4570 camp inmates have started legal action against former Serbia and Montenegro (now Serbia) for torture and abuse in the camps.[34]
According to Croatia's lawsuit against Yugoslavia (later Serbia) in front of the International Court of Justice, 590 cities and villages were damaged and 35 entirely razed to the ground, three national parks, five natural parks and 19 park cultural monuments were damaged while 171,000 housing units (about 10 percent of the entire housing capacity of the country) were destroyed or damaged in Croatia during the war. About three million landmines were left by the warring fractions that blocked about 300,000 hectares of arable land.[35]
In its verdict against Ante Gotovina, the ICTY for the first time concluded that the War in Croatia was an international armed conflict since the military of Serbian Krajina acted as an extension to Serbia's military.



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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:That includes all Muslims then as they are all three!!!


No it does not include all Muslims and to cast them is absurd.
What you promote id discrmination based off a prejudice.
Which by your track record is of no surprise.
Countries should bar those who have extremist views, whether religious, political, racial etc

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:30 pm

That includes Islam and it's followers again Dodge! !!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:34 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:That includes Islam and it's followers again Dodge! !!


Wrong as if you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:45 pm

Muslims back inequality... especially against non Muslims, women and homosexuals...


Plus it could be easily argued that it's the homosexuals who are the extremists... as they themselves are of the extreme belief that what they do is right against all normal and natural thought and common sense!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Muslims back inequality... especially against non Muslims,  women and homosexuals...


Plus it could be easily argued that it's the homosexuals who are the extremists... as they themselves are of the extreme belief that what they do is right against all normal and natural thought and common sense!


Try again

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:49 pm

See my last post...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:50 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:See my last post...


That does not answer whether you back inequality

Try again

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:52 pm

Muslims back inequality...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:53 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Muslims back inequality...


You mean Islam, Christianity, Judaism back inequality, as not all believers of these faiths back inequality, which still is you avoiding answering the question, as I want to know whether you do.

Try again

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:45 pm

Muslims back inequality...


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:48 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Muslims back inequality...




I want to know if you do, its not difficult to answer, either you say yes or no.

Try again

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:55 pm

You said...

"Countries should bar those who have extremist views, whether religious, political, racial etc"

Muslims have those views...


 

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:59 pm

For goodness sake, how difficult is it for you to answer a simple question?

Again not all believers will back prejudiced views in their faiths, which it seems you cannot understand or grasp. Also believeing in these fairy tales does not mean they are extremists o hold extremist views.

Now stop being pathetic and answer the question

6th time asked

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:03 pm

I back the end to mass immigration and the removal of foreign criminals and others who are a national security risk...


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:05 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I back the end to mass immigration and the removal of foreign criminals and others who are a national security risk...



7th time asking

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:08 pm

I refer you to the answer I gave some moments ago...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:10 pm

8th time asking

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:18 pm

What has that got to do with the op or anything I've said?


It is the Muslims who hold extreme views and inequality against non Muslims, women, and homosexuals!!!



And going by your earlier statement that I quoted a couple posts ago... they should definitely be barred entry!!!
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9th time asking

If you back inequality you then back people being able to discrminate against you.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:51 pm

Oh dear .. it looks like Dodge is broken...


Stop spamming or you will be reported!


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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:54 pm

This is not really news. It was reported last summer that Slovakia would not take Muslim refugees. They said that before Merkel opened the doors to Germany, and they made no secret of it, so they've been pretty upfront about it.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Oh dear .. it looks like Dodge is broken...


Stop spamming or you will be reported!


Laughing


Well as seen as per usual you refuse to answer a question which will continue until you do answer  Laughing

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Is that what you believe?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:24 pm

It is a privilege for a country to allow someone in... not discrimination if they don't.


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:33 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is a privilege for a country to allow someone in... not discrimination if they don't.



11th time asking

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Post by Victorismyhero Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Muslims back inequality... especially against non Muslims,  women and homosexuals...


Plus it could be easily argued that it's the homosexuals who are the extremists... as they themselves are of the extreme belief that what they do is right against all normal and natural thought and common sense!


which is absolute non sense ...and you have been skinned times on this...you just keep reapeating it ..like the BBC ....more repeats than a chillie dinner

but which in ANY case...has got f**k all to do with you
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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:48 pm

I think that people have to accept that not everyone has the same views as them, and if the people in Slovakia don't want Muslims there, they will resist any move to force them to take them. It's all very well talking about equality and discrimination, but many people are tribal - that's how communities form in the first place, and it's why so many "birds of a feather" stick together.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:53 pm

So many people on here are totally heartless ... Sad
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Ben_Reilly wrote:So many people on here are totally heartless ... Sad

Just realistic really ...
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:54 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:So many people on here are totally heartless ... Sad

Just realistic really ...

Or at least, that's what they tell themselves.
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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:56 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Just realistic really ...

Or at least, that's what they tell themselves.

So what do you want people on here to do about it? The people in Slovakia will make up their own minds. It might have an effect on the EU eventually because some countries feel they're being forced into a situation they don't want to be in. That's the real issue isn't it?
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Or at least, that's what they tell themselves.

So what do you want people on here to do about it? The people in Slovakia will make up their own minds. It might have an effect on the EU eventually because some countries feel they're being forced into a situation they don't want to be in. That's the real issue isn't it?


As they are part of the EU, they would have to abide with current EU laws, which does not allow for such backward inequality. If they choose to discrminate, it could cost the country dear in what the rest of the EU may do, if they blatantly become a prejudiced and discrminatory nation.

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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:26 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So what do you want people on here to do about it? The people in Slovakia will make up their own minds. It might have an effect on the EU eventually because some countries feel they're being forced into a situation they don't want to be in. That's the real issue isn't it?


As they are part of the EU, they would have to abide with current EU laws, which does not allow for such backward inequality. If they choose to discrminate, it could cost the country dear in what the rest of the EU may do, if they blatantly become a prejudiced and discrminatory nation.

Other countries are also rebelling a bit. You can't expect all members of an organisation to agree all the time. They have given their reasons, and they're sticking to them.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:29 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:


As they are part of the EU, they would have to abide with current EU laws, which does not allow for such backward inequality. If they choose to discrminate, it could cost the country dear in what the rest of the EU may do, if they blatantly become a prejudiced and discrminatory nation.

Other countries are also rebelling a bit. You can't expect all members of an organisation to agree all the time. They have given their reasons, and they're sticking to them.


These countries and the EU is based on upholding equality, so to go against this would be at comeplete odds with the EU and this nation is small and very reliant on help from other EU nations. So if they want to turn their nation into a European Siberia, then on their heads be it, as it will be the people of Slovakia who will end up suffering based off a very poor prejudiced decsision made. To be honest its all hot air with an election coming up to gain votes, as I doubt they would even attempt to go through with it

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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:32 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Other countries are also rebelling a bit. You can't expect all members of an organisation to agree all the time. They have given their reasons, and they're sticking to them.


These countries and the EU is based on upholding equality, so to go against this would be at comeplete odds with the EU and this nation is small and very reliant on help from other EU nations. So if they want to turn their nation into a European Siberia, then on their heads be it, as it will be the people of Slovakia who will end up suffering based off a very poor prejudiced decsision made. To be honest its all hot air with an election coming up to gain votes, as I doubt they would even attempt to go through with it

We'll see. They may well get support from countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, and Romania.

I don't think countries should be forced to do things they don't want to do - that's just bullying. Of course the Germans love the quota thing - because they invited them all in and now they have problems.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:34 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:


These countries and the EU is based on upholding equality, so to go against this would be at comeplete odds with the EU and this nation is small and very reliant on help from other EU nations. So if they want to turn their nation into a European Siberia, then on their heads be it, as it will be the people of Slovakia who will end up suffering based off a very poor prejudiced decsision made. To be honest its all hot air with an election coming up to gain votes, as I doubt they would even attempt to go through with it

We'll see. They may well get support from countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, and Romania.

I don't think countries should be forced to do things they don't want to do - that's just bullying. Of course the Germans love the quota thing - because they invited them all in and now they have problems.


Forced?
They cannot pick and chose what equality laws they have, you either back equality or you are against it.
No nation should discrminate based off a fear, that is just pathetic. What should happen is a far better vetting system.

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Post by Victorismyhero Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:35 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:So many people on here are totally heartless ... Sad

not really, we are just a tad concerned with the assylum seekers concept of gratitude, as demonstrated in cologne and elsewhere....
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:36 pm

The EU was supposed to be about trade between countries... not control of them!!!


The answer is simple... return all the Africans to the African union to deal with and mid eastern to the Arab league to deal with.


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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:36 pm

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We'll see. They may well get support from countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, and Romania.

I don't think countries should be forced to do things they don't want to do - that's just bullying. Of course the Germans love the quota thing - because they invited them all in and now they have problems.


Forced?
They cannot pick and chose what equality laws they have, you either back equality or you are against it.
No nation should discrminate based off a fear, that is just pathetic. What should happen is a far better vetting system.

How else would you describe it? Slovakia don't want all those Muslim refugees, but they will be forced to take them unless they can win the court case.

If a nation wants to discriminate because of fear, that's up to them.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:38 pm

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Forced?
They cannot pick and chose what equality laws they have, you either back equality or you are against it.
No nation should discrminate based off a fear, that is just pathetic. What should happen is a far better vetting system.

How else would you describe it? Slovakia don't want all those Muslim refugees, but they will be forced to take them unless they can win the court case.

If a nation wants to discriminate because of fear, that's up to them.


Every nation has to play a part in helping and they are not being asked to take in the amounts that other nations are doing. They are behaving like children to be honest, so no a nation should not discrminate based off a fear, that is wrong on every level, as when you open up the door to discrminate, then other areas become discriminated against.
We are living in the 21st century, not the 19th anymore

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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:42 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

How else would you describe it? Slovakia don't want all those Muslim refugees, but they will be forced to take them unless they can win the court case.

If a nation wants to discriminate because of fear, that's up to them.


Every nation has to play a part in helping and they are not being asked to take in the amounts that other nations are doing. They are behaving like children to be honest, so no a nation should not discrminate based off a fear, that is wrong on every level, as when you open up the door to discrminate, then other areas become discriminated against.
We are living in the 21st century, not the 19th anymore

I think it's wrong to force a nation to do something they don't feel comfortable about. They are afraid because they've seen what's happened in other countries, and you'll see - nothing will be done about any of it. Nobody will be sent back to a war zone even though they were given a chance and they blew it.
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