Muslim Kicked Off Bus

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:46 pm

For Looking Shifty.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6793971/National-Express-race-row-passenger-Driver-asked-me-to-get-off-because-Im-a-Muslim-and-I-felt-humiliated.html

Better be safe than sorry.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:50 pm

That's utterly contemptible. Carry on doing Daesh's work for them.

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:50 pm

Hmmm. I can understand people being worried, and I can completely understand his upset!

Not sure the best way this could've played out to keep everyone happy?

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:53 pm

There was some guy who had to get off a tube train - I saw that story when Sassy linked to the video about the roof falling.

http://linkis.com/www.standard.co.uk/n/FQn0i

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:53 pm

Yep, loads of people stood up for him, I saw it too. I'm really glad they did.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:55 pm

eddie wrote:Hmmm. I can understand people being worried, and I can completely understand his upset!

Not sure the best way this could've played out to keep everyone happy?

Why do you have to keep everyone happy, why not stand up for what is right and tell the woman who complained to go to hell.

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:57 pm

So, you have a bus load of passengers, several express dissatisfaction, says he looked shifty, what else could the driver do? he took the easiest option at the time.

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:58 pm

Some people are frightened. They read about these random attacks, and they're afraid they might be next.

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:59 pm

Anyway, there's a disagreement about the reason he was told to leave.

A spokesman for National Express said: "We categorically deny an incident in which a passenger was asked to leave one of our coaches was in any way discriminatory.

"The gentleman concerned boarded with excess luggage which became an issue for a number of our other customers.

"He refused to put the excess luggage in the hold when requested, was abusive towards our staff and walked out of the station.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:59 pm

Oh right, so if I look at a priest and says he scares me it will be ok to chuck him off a bus?

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:00 pm

sassy wrote:Yep, loads of people stood up for him, I saw it too. I'm really glad they did.

Sassy, to me you come across as totally anti British and pro anything which is not good for this island which was once ours.
Why are you so bitter towards this country?

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:00 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Anyway, there's a disagreement about the reason he was told to leave.

A spokesman for National Express said: "We categorically deny an incident in which a passenger was asked to leave one of our coaches was in any way discriminatory.

"The gentleman concerned boarded with excess luggage which became an issue for a number of our other customers.

"He refused to put the excess luggage in the hold when requested, was abusive towards our staff and walked out of the station.

And other passengers have said it was bullshit, the bus was half empty and other people had luggage on seats.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:02 pm

Stormee wrote:
sassy wrote:Yep, loads of people stood up for him, I saw it too. I'm really glad they did.

Sassy, to me you come across as totally anti British and pro anything which is not good for this island which was once ours.
Why are you so bitter towards this country?

Knew you'd get to that, as I said your act doesn't fool me. Being anti racist is being pro British, those people were British as well.

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:02 pm

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:Hmmm. I can understand people being worried, and I can completely understand his upset!

Not sure the best way this could've played out to keep everyone happy?

Why do you have to keep everyone happy, why not stand up for what is right and tell the woman who complained to go to hell.

Eddie and others are entitled to make their chosen comments, you do, all the time.
Not everyone is the same.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:04 pm

Stormee wrote:
sassy wrote:

Why do you have to keep everyone happy, why not stand up for what is right and tell the woman who complained to go to hell.

Eddie and others are entitled to make their chosen comments, you do, all the time.
Not everyone is the same.

I was replying to Eddie saying, how could it have been played out to keep everyone happy.

Life is not about keeping people happy is they are doing the wrong thing. And it's about making sure you do the right thing.

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:08 pm

having read that

he couldnt be "playing the victim card could he"

of course the reasons given by nat express MUST be a lie mustnt they?

on the other hand....he does look a bit erm....fierce

and finally of course

just supposing he HAD been let on and booom....

of course the appologists would then be out in force wringing their hands and clucking about "how terrible it was and all that ...but tough shit

and a couple of survivors were able to say that PC has just killed a bus full of people????

dont ask me for an answer....

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:12 pm

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:Hmmm. I can understand people being worried, and I can completely understand his upset!

Not sure the best way this could've played out to keep everyone happy?

Why do you have to keep everyone happy, why not stand up for what is right and tell the woman who complained to go to hell.

Sorry sassy but if I were in that bus and I thought he looked dodgy (define dodgy? it's different for everyone) and he was carrying three rucksacks I may have felt uncomfortable

Lots of people feel this way and say nothing

Say the people on the bus on 7/7 had felt uncomfortable and said nothing ?
We all know what happened there don't we???

It's ok to be PC but if I'm worried some fucker is gong to blow me up, I'll speak up!!

You don't live in a high risk area so you can feel cosy sass....the vibe is different in different parts of the country

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:12 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:

Eddie and others are entitled to make their chosen comments, you do, all the time.
Not everyone is the same.

I was replying to Eddie saying, how could it have been played out to keep everyone happy.

Life is not about keeping people happy is they are doing the wrong thing. And it's about making sure you do the right thing.

Your view of the right thing can be different to others, who is to say who is right.

You are wrong to be so Anti British in my book, why do you hate us so much? That is my view, Sassy

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:13 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:

Eddie and others are entitled to make their chosen comments, you do, all the time.
Not everyone is the same.

I was replying to Eddie saying, how could it have been played out to keep everyone happy.

Life is not about keeping people happy is they are doing the wrong thing. And it's about making sure you do the right thing.

and what, sassy, is the right thing ?

mmmm?

if he had have gone booom,and killed 50 passengers what would be right then ?

oh I know the apologists would be out in force wringing their hands and crying their crocodile tears and at the same time shouting down anyone, even victims that dared to dissent,
and saying how terrible it was...tough shit

but ...what would be right eh?

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:16 pm

Heaven knows what was hidden in his turbine and beard.
They love to play the victim because it usually gives them the upper hand and plenty compo for hurt feelings.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:16 pm

Stormee wrote:
sassy wrote:

I was replying to Eddie saying, how could it have been played out to keep everyone happy.

Life is not about keeping people happy is they are doing the wrong thing. And it's about making sure you do the right thing.

Your view of the right thing can be different to others, who is to say who is right.

You are wrong to be so Anti British in my book, why do you hate us so much? That is my view, Sassy

Yea yea yea, any one who isn't a racist tosser is anti British in your book, I happen to think the British people are better than that. Now trot off back to Flap.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:17 pm

Stormee wrote:Heaven knows what was hidden in his turbine and beard.
They love to play the victim because it usually gives them the upper hand and plenty compo for hurt feelings.

Muslims don't wear turbans, no wonder your lot tried to burn down a Sikh Temple Rolling Eyes

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:17 pm

Will we ever know if this courageous driver saved lives or not, what was in his luggage?????????

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:18 pm

Keep it up, placing you exactly now.

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:20 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:Heaven knows what was hidden in his turbine and beard.
They love to play the victim because it usually gives them the upper hand and plenty compo for hurt feelings.

Muslims don't wear turbans, no wonder your lot tried to burn down a Sikh Temple

If I had of called him a raghead you would have gone berserk.

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:20 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:Hmmm. I can understand people being worried, and I can completely understand his upset!

Not sure the best way this could've played out to keep everyone happy?

Why do you have to keep everyone happy, why not stand up for what is right and tell the woman who complained to go to hell.

Sorry sassy but if I were in that bus and I thought he looked dodgy (define dodgy? it's different for everyone) and he was carrying three rucksacks I may have felt uncomfortable

Lots of people feel this way and say nothing

Say the people on the bus on 7/7 had felt uncomfortable and said nothing ?
We all know what happened there don't we???

It's ok to be PC but if I'm worried some fucker is gong to blow me up, I'll speak up!!

You don't live in a high risk area so you can feel cosy sass....the vibe is different in different parts of the country

I can't help thinking of the passengers on that bus on 7/7 in London.
Did any of them feel suspicious? Say nothing and died?

Like I say, different parts of the country have a different vibe.

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:21 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:

Your view of the right thing can be different to others, who is to say who is right.

You are wrong to be so Anti British in my book, why do you hate us so much? That is my view, Sassy

Yea yea yea, any one who isn't a racist tosser is anti British in your book, I happen to think the British people are better than that. Now trot off back to Flap.

I don't think Stormee is a member of Flap.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yea yea yea, any one who isn't a racist tosser is anti British in your book, I happen to think the British people are better than that. Now trot off back to Flap.

I don't think Stormee is a member of Flap.

Well I do.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:24 pm

Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers.

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:24 pm

Stormee knows Syl from another forum
I thought they came from a forum none of us have been on?
Could be wrong but don't care either way tbh

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:24 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't think Stormee is a member of Flap.

Well I do.

Well you're wrong. You should stop this silliness. I've known Stormee on forums for years, and he's not who you appear to think he is.

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:25 pm

eddie wrote:Stormee knows Syl from another forum
I thought they came from a forum none of us have been on?
Could be wrong but don't care either way tbh

I also know Syl from another forum, and yes, she does know Stormee, as do I.

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:26 pm

Fair enough rags
I don't care who they are or were

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:27 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers.

Bumped to get the debate on track as who cares where and if posters come from, as neither cause any trouble here and thus are welcome no matter their views

Right back to the debate

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:30 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers.

Bumped to get the debate on track as who cares where and if posters come from, as neither cause any trouble here and thus are welcome no matter their views

Right back to the debate

You really do have delusions of grandeur don't you. Reading the other thread, it's not the only thing you have delusions about. Go and take a long running jump off a short peir into a very deep sea and mind your own business. I don't take orders from the likes of you, never have and never will.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:31 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers

Bumped to get the debate on track as who cares where and if posters come from, as neither cause any trouble here and thus are welcome no matter their views

Right back to the debate

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:31 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers.

MUST ADMIT, THIS IS INTERESTING.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:Stormee knows Syl from another forum
I thought they came from a forum none of us have been on?
Could be wrong but don't care either way tbh

I also know Syl from another forum, and yes, she does know Stormee, as do I.

Don't care where you know him from, that doesn't preclude him from posting on Flap.

He's acting.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:33 pm

Stormee wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Look a good way to see if he is dodgy would be to ask him to sing a pop/dance/reggae/soul etc song, as those with extreme views think such music is a sin.
Surely if he is not an islamist he will like music and be able to sing a soing easily. Thos with extreme views would not know any western music.
If it was me, if its going to happen it will happen and would not question unless the following.
One thing I learnt fropm years ago at Bank of America is that suicide bombers, will be in many cases be clean shaven for a start, a they shave off their body hair. They will be like in a trance of deep thought and prayer and will no doubt in many cases be perspiring.

So was it right to judge the man based on his looks?
No, if anything he would have been a safe bet with the beard.
It helps if people researched more into what islamic terrorists do in preparition before such an attack. I ma just saying you are going hedge more on the side of safety with what you would perceive as a jihadi looking terrorist and through stupidity you allow on the clean shaven, eyes in the distance, well dressed suicide bomber.

This is going to be the case and is the case with many suicide bombers.

MUST ADMIT, THIS IS INTERESTING.

Its not always the case Strome, but in many cases of terrorist attacks they have been clean shaven, eyes in the distance sweating etc, even mumbling prayer under their breath

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:33 pm

given that so many of these extremists interpret the quoran with such liberty

I dont think they would consider doing anything to pass a test as being sinful, as long as it helped them achieve their aim.

after all islam says killing one man (unjustly) is as bad as killing the whole of man....it doesnt seem to stop them does it?

besides expecting a Muslim to pass a "test" before baosrding a bus etc would be seen as jsust as discriminatory

and I for one aint prepared to "sing for my ride" in the name of equality

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:35 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Stormee wrote:

MUST ADMIT, THIS IS INTERESTING.

Its not always the case Strome, but in many cases of terrorist attacks they have been clean shaven, eyes in the distance sweating etc, even mumbling prayer under their breath

in which case it is NO guide at all...

and eyes in the distance and sweating could just as well be a dose of flu

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:36 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I also know Syl from another forum, and yes, she does know Stormee, as do I.

Don't care where you know him from, that doesn't preclude him from posting on Flap.

He's acting.

He might post on Flap but he's not "from" Flap. Just get on with debating the subject instead of trying to guess who posters are.

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:36 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Stormee wrote:

MUST ADMIT, THIS IS INTERESTING.

Its not always the case Strome, but in many cases of terrorist attacks they have been clean shaven, eyes in the distance sweating etc, even mumbling prayer under their breath

in which case it is NO guide at all...

and eyes in the distance and sweating could just as well be a dose of flu

Man flu

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:37 pm

Lord Foul wrote:given that so many of these extremists interpret the quoran with such liberty

I dont think they would consider doing anything to pass a test as being sinful, as long as it helped them achieve their aim.

after all islam says killing one man (unjustly) is as bad as killing the whole of man....it doesnt seem to stop them does it?

besides expecting a Muslim to pass a "test" before baosrding a bus etc would be seen as jsust as discriminatory

and I for one aint prepared to "sing for my ride" in the name of equality

lol you could ask to see his privates, as they would shave or trim that to, in prepartion for the after life.
Again the last thing a suicide bomber is going to do, is draw attention to himself, so what again you would perceive to be a suicide bomber would unlikely be the case.
Just saying there are certain things they do to prepare for the after life.
I agree such checks would be discrminating.

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:39 pm

and i most certainly aint hangin percy out for inspection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:42 pm

Lord Foul wrote:and i most certainly aint hangin percy out for inspection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welll lets face it, if he got a hard on on whilst expecting looking at you, I would say you were as safe as houses mate.

Laughing

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:47 pm

hmmm...then again......

by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:47 pm

Lord Foul wrote:hmmm...then again......

Innocent until proven guilty isn't PC, it’s moral. You don't violate human rights just because some people are scared.

by veya_victaous Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:58 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:hmmm...then again......

Innocent until proven guilty isn't PC, it’s moral. You don't violate human rights just because some people are scared.

It Appears Cowardice is highly Valued in England
those that Speak the most about Preserving English Values
Also Display Cowardice of the highest Caliber
So I guess they must go together
Suspect

by Victorismyhero Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:10 am

perhaps you two colonial twerps should learn to understand english humour

my comment hmmm...then again .....was aimed at the post above

and if you dont understand the sense of it tough, but you are BOTH wrong in your assumed meaning you applied to it....

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