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Parents Charged With Killing Son In Church
A teenager is killed and his brother is seriously hurt in a so-called "counselling session" aimed at getting them to confess sins.
19:03, UK, Wednesday 14 October 2015
Bruce Leonard and his wife Deborah Leonard are charged in the beating death of their 19-year-old son
A couple have been charged with fatally beating their 19-year-old son in an apparent "counselling session" at a church in central New York
Bruce Leonard, 65, and 59-year-old Deborah Leonard are charged with first-degree manslaughter in the death of their son Lucas.
Four other members of the Word of Life Church in New Hartford were charged with assault for the attack that also left Lucas' younger brother, Christopher, seriously injured.
Authorities said the beatings were part of what parishioners referred to as a "counselling session".
David Morey, 26, of Utica Linda Morey, 54, are charged with felony second-degree assault
David Morey, 26, and Linda Morey, 54, pleaded not guilty to assault
New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said the teens were subjected to hours of physical punishment "in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness".
Investigators are still looking into what the supposed sins were, Chief Inserra said.
Officers responded to the church at about 12.30pm on Monday after family members brought Lucas to hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, are charged with felony second-degree assault
Sarah Ferguson, 33, and Joseph Irwin, 26, were also charged
State and local officials cordoned off the church and began interviewing parishioners.
Several children found inside were turned over to child welfare officials, police said.
Authorities said Lucas and Christopher suffered injuries to their abdomens, genitals, backs and thighs.
Christopher, 17, remains in hospital in serious condition, Chief Inserra told a news conference on Wednesday.
The teens' parents pleaded not guilty at their arraignment on Tuesday and are being held in Oneida County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bail each.
Lawyers for the couple declined to comment on the case.
David Morey, 26, Linda Morey, 54, Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, were ordered held on $50,000 bail. All four pleaded not guilty to a felony count of second-degree assault.
from "http://news.sky.com/story/1569536/parents-charged-with-killing-son-in-church"
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
Parents Charged With Killing Son In Church
A teenager is killed and his brother is seriously hurt in a so-called "counselling session" aimed at getting them to confess sins.
19:03, UK, Wednesday 14 October 2015
Bruce Leonard and his wife Deborah Leonard are charged in the beating death of their 19-year-old son
A couple have been charged with fatally beating their 19-year-old son in an apparent "counselling session" at a church in central New York
Bruce Leonard, 65, and 59-year-old Deborah Leonard are charged with first-degree manslaughter in the death of their son Lucas.
Four other members of the Word of Life Church in New Hartford were charged with assault for the attack that also left Lucas' younger brother, Christopher, seriously injured.
Authorities said the beatings were part of what parishioners referred to as a "counselling session".
David Morey, 26, of Utica Linda Morey, 54, are charged with felony second-degree assault
David Morey, 26, and Linda Morey, 54, pleaded not guilty to assault
New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said the teens were subjected to hours of physical punishment "in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness".
Investigators are still looking into what the supposed sins were, Chief Inserra said.
Officers responded to the church at about 12.30pm on Monday after family members brought Lucas to hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, are charged with felony second-degree assault
Sarah Ferguson, 33, and Joseph Irwin, 26, were also charged
State and local officials cordoned off the church and began interviewing parishioners.
Several children found inside were turned over to child welfare officials, police said.
Authorities said Lucas and Christopher suffered injuries to their abdomens, genitals, backs and thighs.
Christopher, 17, remains in hospital in serious condition, Chief Inserra told a news conference on Wednesday.
The teens' parents pleaded not guilty at their arraignment on Tuesday and are being held in Oneida County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bail each.
Lawyers for the couple declined to comment on the case.
David Morey, 26, Linda Morey, 54, Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, were ordered held on $50,000 bail. All four pleaded not guilty to a felony count of second-degree assault.
from "http://news.sky.com/story/1569536/parents-charged-with-killing-son-in-church"
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
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smelly-bandit wrote:my english is prefect walter, my typing is dodgy
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:Cuchulain wrote:Well when as seen religion is so damaging to people, where it makes them do things they would otheriwse not do, then most rational people will question why people need to follow such backward beliefs.
I mean lets face it, the reason that many people do believe is they are shit scared of death and if nothing follows. Fear drives them to believe in the most ridiculous things. The reality is for too long religion has been given a free pass to dictate and force its views onto peoples lives. Well not anymore, it should be a personal belief and nothing more.
And yet you're constantly banging on about it , and if its a personal belief then why not leave us who do believe alone ??
You're constantly banging on about beliefs and lifestyles you don't agree with. Why don't you leave them alone?
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Ben_Reilly wrote:Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
And yet you're constantly banging on about it , and if its a personal belief then why not leave us who do believe alone ??
You're constantly banging on about beliefs and lifestyles you don't agree with. Why don't you leave them alone?
because those beliefs and lifestyles negativley affect ME.
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smelly-bandit wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
And yet you're constantly banging on about it , and if its a personal belief then why not leave us who do believe alone ??
You're constantly banging on about beliefs and lifestyles you don't agree with. Why don't you leave them alone?
because those beliefs and lifestyles negativley affect ME.
Really? How do gay people or Muslims (the only two things they ever seem to talk about) negatively affect you?
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because those beliefs and lifestyles negativley affect ME.
Really? How do gay people or Muslims (the only two things they ever seem to talk about) negatively affect you?
gays affect me by the erosion of the tradition values - marriage between man and woman, husband and wife - terms im no longer allowed to use for fear of being arrested for homophobic hate crimes
Muslims of course affect me, every time i fly i now have to take off my shoes because of some Muslim
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smelly-bandit wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:smelly-bandit wrote:
because those beliefs and lifestyles negativley affect ME.
Really? How do gay people or Muslims (the only two things they ever seem to talk about) negatively affect you?
gays affect me by the erosion of the tradition values - marriage between man and woman, husband and wife - terms im no longer allowed to use for fear of being arrested for homophobic hate crimes
Muslims of course affect me, every time i fly i now have to take off my shoes because of some Muslim
So what you're really saying with the thing about gay people is that you want everyone to pretend your bigotry is OK. And you should understand that the shoes-off-in-the-airport policy was created by people who are a lot like you -- unreasonably fearful of Muslims.
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Shoe's off was created by people like Smelly, I thought it was because some Muslim scum had explosive in his shoes. Get your facts right.
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nicko wrote:Shoe's off was created by people like Smelly, I thought it was because some Muslim scum had explosive in his shoes. Get your facts right.
Ben likes to blame everyone except the actual perpetrator.
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Raggamuffin wrote:nicko wrote:Shoe's off was created by people like Smelly, I thought it was because some Muslim scum had explosive in his shoes. Get your facts right.
Ben likes to blame everyone except the actual perpetrator.
Just like you want to dodge your own obligations. In America we call those people, deadbeats.
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Ben likes to blame everyone except the actual perpetrator.
Just like you want to dodge your own obligations. In America we call those people, deadbeats.
I don't have obligations to anyone. You probably have though - give back all that stuff you stole.
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What "obligations"are we dodging?
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nicko wrote:Shoe's off was created by people like Smelly, I thought it was because some Muslim scum had explosive in his shoes. Get your facts right.
Was that the only way to deal with the possibility that someone would put a bomb in their shoe? Of course it wasn't.
Why are some risks acceptable while others aren't? Why don't we require everyone to pass a breathalizer before they can start their car?
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Ben_Reilly wrote:nicko wrote:Shoe's off was created by people like Smelly, I thought it was because some Muslim scum had explosive in his shoes. Get your facts right.
Was that the only way to deal with the possibility that someone would put a bomb in their shoe? Of course it wasn't.
Why are some risks acceptable while others aren't? Why don't we require everyone to pass a breathalizer before they can start their car?
What would be the best way to deal with the possibility that someone who might put a bomb in their shoe then?
Besides, Muslims like taking their shoes off - well the do in mosques anyway.
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nicko wrote:What "obligations"are we dodging?
The obligation to give away anything you worked for so that Quill's black mates can have them.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Just like you want to dodge your own obligations. In America we call those people, deadbeats.
I don't have obligations to anyone. You probably have though - give back all that stuff you stole.
You sound like a Wall Street investor...perhaps Bernard Madoff: What's mine is mine and what's your's is mine, too.
BTW, it's called cheating. He's in a prison in N. Carolina now.
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I don't have obligations to anyone. You probably have though - give back all that stuff you stole.
You sound like a Wall Street investor...perhaps Bernard Madoff: What's mine is mine and what's your's is mine, too.
What's mine is mine, and you can keep your grubby, namby-pamby, leftie hands off it.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Original Quill wrote:
You sound like a Wall Street investor...perhaps Bernard Madoff: What's mine is mine and what's your's is mine, too.
What's mine is mine, and you can keep your grubby, namby-pamby, leftie hands off it.
Adjectives??? FFS...you too?
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Whats wrong with adjectives they describe you to a "T"
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The trouble with lefties is that they can't wait to steal from those who worked for what they have and give it to someone who didn't lift a finger.
They justify it by teaching the person who didn't lift a finger that it's not their fault they didn't lift a finger, and that it's the fault of the person who they want to steal from - the person who actually worked for what they have, and put in the effort to get qualifications and experience.
They justify it by teaching the person who didn't lift a finger that it's not their fault they didn't lift a finger, and that it's the fault of the person who they want to steal from - the person who actually worked for what they have, and put in the effort to get qualifications and experience.
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gays affect me by the erosion of the tradition values - marriage between man and woman, husband and wife - terms im no longer allowed to use for fear of being arrested for homophobic hate crimes
Muslims of course affect me, every time i fly i now have to take off my shoes because of some Muslim
So what you're really saying with the thing about gay people is that you want everyone to pretend your bigotry is OK. And you should understand that the shoes-off-in-the-airport policy was created by people who are a lot like you -- unreasonably fearful of Muslims.
so im a bigot because i believe that HUSBAND can marry his WIFE instead of being force to delcare his /herself as "partner" marrying a "partner" so as not to be considered a bigot
are you married ben??
did you marry your wife or did you marry a random "partner"??
if youre not married yet, the you had better forget about marrying a wife and get used to marrying a partner.
and the shoes-off-in-the-airport policy may have been created by security experts but it was INSPIRED by Muslims.
you asked how gays and Muslim affect me, and i told you, dont try and justify it away because the bottom line is that you are affected in the same ways.
you may not care about it, but you are still affected by it.
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Raggamuffin wrote:The trouble with lefties is that they can't wait to steal from those who worked for what they have and give it to someone who didn't lift a finger.
They justify it by teaching the person who didn't lift a finger that it's not their fault they didn't lift a finger, and that it's the fault of the person who they want to steal from - the person who actually worked for what they have, and put in the effort to get qualifications and experience.
FGS, what did Englishmen do when they instituted slavery? What are you doing with your sudden theory of auto-individualism? You are just coming up with arguments for how you took out a loan (obligation), and now like a deadbeat you want to default.
You're the Bernie Madoff...you're the lazy oaf who stole from others, and now can't make restitution.
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Stormee wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:The trouble with lefties is that they can't wait to steal from those who worked for what they have and give it to someone who didn't lift a finger.
They justify it by teaching the person who didn't lift a finger that it's not their fault they didn't lift a finger, and that it's the fault of the person who they want to steal from - the person who actually worked for what they have, and put in the effort to get qualifications and experience.
That is the plain truth, Ragga.
The multitudes of lefties on forums will not like that.
Lefties are me me me and jealous types in general.
Then again lefties can be righties on some things and vice versa.
Lefties are horrible people. They don't believe in personal effort or responsibility, and they're just waiting in the wings to steal what others have worked for. They usually fail, thank goodness, and then they whine about that too.
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Original Quill wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:The trouble with lefties is that they can't wait to steal from those who worked for what they have and give it to someone who didn't lift a finger.
They justify it by teaching the person who didn't lift a finger that it's not their fault they didn't lift a finger, and that it's the fault of the person who they want to steal from - the person who actually worked for what they have, and put in the effort to get qualifications and experience.
FGS, what did Englishmen do when they instituted slavery? What are you doing with your sudden theory of auto-individualism? You are just coming up with arguments for how you took out a loan (obligation), and now like a deadbeat you want to default.
You're the Bernie Madoff...you're the lazy oaf who stole from others, and now can't make restitution.
If you bought your fake degree with money you stole, deal with your own guilt instead of deflecting.
Did you steal that castle in Scotland too?
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Raggamuffin wrote:Original Quill wrote:
FGS, what did Englishmen do when they instituted slavery? What are you doing with your sudden theory of auto-individualism? You are just coming up with arguments for how you took out a loan (obligation), and now like a deadbeat you want to default.
You're the Bernie Madoff...you're the lazy oaf who stole from others, and now can't make restitution.
If you bought your fake degree with money you stole, deal with your own guilt instead of deflecting.
Did you steal that castle in Scotland too?
Don't be juvenile, Raggs. If I'm getting to you, leave off.
It's not about me. Nor is it about you. I'm only speaking about you because you've made yourself the example, with your posh education and xlnt London job.
We began speaking about populations...and the sociology of education. Let's keep our eye on that subject.
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If you bought your fake degree with money you stole, deal with your own guilt instead of deflecting.
Did you steal that castle in Scotland too?
Don't be juvenile, Raggs. If I'm getting to you, leave off.
It's not about me. Nor is it about you. I'm only speaking about you because you've made yourself the example, with your posh education and xlnt London job.
We began speaking about populations...and the sociology of education. Let's keep our eye on that subject.
It's me who seems to be getting to you Quill.
Are you jealous of my education Quill? Are you jealous that I worked in London? Anyone can go and work in London, and anyone can pay attention at school, and at least attempt to get A Levels and go to college. The fact that you can't admit that I worked for those things just confirms your namby-pamby leftie attitude that I must have been "given" them.
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Tell me Quill - you claim to be a lawyer. Did you not have to have qualifications? Did you have to work for those qualifications, or did you steal them from a black person?
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Hi Smelly. Quoting you from the previous page: 'Stardesk for a person so interested in religious theology ,you seem almost completely ignorant of religious theology.'
What I'm interested in is facts and knowledge. It's too late now but tomorrow I'll prove to you that what I have said is true, that Islam and Christianity have the same roots, otherwise why would the Koran have the same stories as Christians?
For those of you here who are interested in facts, borrow, perhaps from your local Library, a copy of the Koran. All you'll need to do is read down the index, for there you will see events and characters as protrayed in the Bible. Read, research, and study, don't just stand there on your soapbox shouting out what you believe. These days people have the opportunity to gain more knowledge, and so do you.
Sorry for that criticizm but it's a fact, knowledge helps people move forward through life, open the door to things they previously thought impossible.
Anyway, enough waffle, I'll prove my point sometime tomorrow.
What I'm interested in is facts and knowledge. It's too late now but tomorrow I'll prove to you that what I have said is true, that Islam and Christianity have the same roots, otherwise why would the Koran have the same stories as Christians?
For those of you here who are interested in facts, borrow, perhaps from your local Library, a copy of the Koran. All you'll need to do is read down the index, for there you will see events and characters as protrayed in the Bible. Read, research, and study, don't just stand there on your soapbox shouting out what you believe. These days people have the opportunity to gain more knowledge, and so do you.
Sorry for that criticizm but it's a fact, knowledge helps people move forward through life, open the door to things they previously thought impossible.
Anyway, enough waffle, I'll prove my point sometime tomorrow.
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I look forward to tomorrow ,you had best come armed , I grow tired of humoring you .
I look forward to tomorrow ,you had best come armed , I grow tired of humoring you .
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Plagiarism stardesk...?
A violent barbarian claims to be the voice of god while carrying out evil, and told a few stories he had heard to try to bolster up his claims...!?
And you think that gives any legitimacy...?
A violent barbarian claims to be the voice of god while carrying out evil, and told a few stories he had heard to try to bolster up his claims...!?
And you think that gives any legitimacy...?
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Raggamuffin wrote:Tell me Quill - you claim to be a lawyer. Did you not have to have qualifications? Did you have to work for those qualifications, or did you steal them from a black person?
Well...that lowered the level.
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I look forward to tomorrow ,you had best come armed , I grow tired of humoring you .
You are upset, smells. I rarely see you dripping with such sweat. You always try to be so suave and airy...almost 'devil may care'.
Let me remind you...anger is a useless emotion.
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stardesk wrote:Hi Smelly. Quoting you from the previous page: 'Stardesk for a person so interested in religious theology ,you seem almost completely ignorant of religious theology.'
What I'm interested in is facts and knowledge. It's too late now but tomorrow I'll prove to you that what I have said is true, that Islam and Christianity have the same roots, otherwise why would the Koran have the same stories as Christians?
For those of you here who are interested in facts, borrow, perhaps from your local Library, a copy of the Koran. All you'll need to do is read down the index, for there you will see events and characters as protrayed in the Bible. Read, research, and study, don't just stand there on your soapbox shouting out what you believe. These days people have the opportunity to gain more knowledge, and so do you.
Sorry for that criticizm but it's a fact, knowledge helps people move forward through life, open the door to things they previously thought impossible.
Anyway, enough waffle, I'll prove my point sometime tomorrow.
hell yeah
that what makes TM and Smelly so funny they obviously have not read it. You can look at that of contents and see that they obviously have never opened a Koran
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Tommy Monk wrote:Plagiarism stardesk...?
A violent barbarian claims to be the voice of god while carrying out evil, and told a few stories he had heard to try to bolster up his claims...!?
And you think that gives any legitimacy...?
lol
King James Bible is literally and openly a selective translation that is several centuries younger than Koran
YOUR BIBLE the one written in English is the plagiarism by the Fact IT DIDN'T EXIST 500 years ago let alone 1300 years ago when the Koran was written
King James's Bible is used as the name for the 1611 translation
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veya_victaous wrote:stardesk wrote:Hi Smelly. Quoting you from the previous page: 'Stardesk for a person so interested in religious theology ,you seem almost completely ignorant of religious theology.'
What I'm interested in is facts and knowledge. It's too late now but tomorrow I'll prove to you that what I have said is true, that Islam and Christianity have the same roots, otherwise why would the Koran have the same stories as Christians?
For those of you here who are interested in facts, borrow, perhaps from your local Library, a copy of the Koran. All you'll need to do is read down the index, for there you will see events and characters as protrayed in the Bible. Read, research, and study, don't just stand there on your soapbox shouting out what you believe. These days people have the opportunity to gain more knowledge, and so do you.
Sorry for that criticizm but it's a fact, knowledge helps people move forward through life, open the door to things they previously thought impossible.
Anyway, enough waffle, I'll prove my point sometime tomorrow.
hell yeah
that what makes TM and Smelly so funny they obviously have not read it. You can look at that of contents and see that they obviously have never opened a Koran
As if you have.
I'm still waiting for you or anyone else for that matter to share your vast knowledge with us.
Tell us all about it
Come on veyva share some similarities
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Vaya and Quill live in their own little cocooned world, they know fuck all about what goes on out side it.
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smelly-bandit wrote:veya_victaous wrote:
hell yeah
that what makes TM and Smelly so funny they obviously have not read it. You can look at that of contents and see that they obviously have never opened a Koran
As if you have.
I'm still waiting for you or anyone else for that matter to share your vast knowledge with us.
Tell us all about it
Come on veyva share some similarities
You yourself don't know either Smelly!
You haven't read the Quran so I really don't know why you think you have any authority over Veya in this matter!
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nicko wrote:Vaya and Quill live in their own little cocooned world, they know fuck all about what goes on out side it.
It's easy to catch them out
All you have to do is ask them a question about it and watch them fold
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
Fucking hilarious, unreliable stories found in both books being argued over whether they were plagerized or not. I mean there is countless characters from the Quran in the Bible, the stories differ s and have adapted some what, but it leaves smelly with a huge problem
Well if they were not plagerized, smelly must think Allah exists and did pass on his words to Muhammad, so which is it?
Well if they were not plagerized, smelly must think Allah exists and did pass on his words to Muhammad, so which is it?
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SEXY MAMA wrote:smelly-bandit wrote:
As if you have.
I'm still waiting for you or anyone else for that matter to share your vast knowledge with us.
Tell us all about it
Come on veyva share some similarities
You yourself don't know either Smelly!
You haven't read the Quran so I really don't know why you think you have any authority over Veya in this matter!
Come now mama you know more than anyone how much more I know about all things Islam than every person put together in this forum.
The reason I'm asking veyva is to call him out as a bullshitter, the same way I do to you
How many times have you come out with a load of shit about Islam and I have asked for proof and you have replied with "I'm busy now I will show you tomorrow"
I've lost count
The easiest way to expose a bullshitter is to ask them to share their knowledge
I guarantee veyva will not come back with details
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
There are countless characters form the Quran in the bible
Lol
Not sure how the bible contain characters from a book that wasn't written until thousands of years after the bible was completed
I think you're taking back to the future day far too seriously.
Lol
Not sure how the bible contain characters from a book that wasn't written until thousands of years after the bible was completed
I think you're taking back to the future day far too seriously.
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
Sorry did smelly say call out others ha ha ha ha
How many times have you been corrected more like?
Fucking hilarious, unreliable stories found in both books being argued over whether they were plagerized or not. I mean there is countless characters from the Quran in the Bible, the stories differ s and have adapted some what, but it leaves smelly with a huge problem
Well if they were not plagerized, smelly must think Allah exists and did pass on his words to Muhammad, so which is it?
How many times have you been corrected more like?
Fucking hilarious, unreliable stories found in both books being argued over whether they were plagerized or not. I mean there is countless characters from the Quran in the Bible, the stories differ s and have adapted some what, but it leaves smelly with a huge problem
Well if they were not plagerized, smelly must think Allah exists and did pass on his words to Muhammad, so which is it?
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smelly-bandit wrote:There are countless characters form the Quran in the bible
Lol
Not sure how the bible contain characters from a book that wasn't written until thousands of years after the bible was completed
I think you're taking back to the future day far too seriously.
HILarious stupidity
It is the Quran plagerizing the Bible and thus names are found in both, so again are you saying the Quran is actually from Allah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_in_both_the_Bible_and_the_Quran
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smelly-bandit wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
You yourself don't know either Smelly!
You haven't read the Quran so I really don't know why you think you have any authority over Veya in this matter!
Come now mama you know more than anyone how much more I know about all things Islam than every person put together in this forum.
Lol Modest much?
The reason I'm asking veyva is to call him out as a bullshitter, the same way I do to you
How many times have you come out with a load of shit about Islam and I have asked for proof and you have replied with "I'm busy now I will show you tomorrow"
OMG I always reply to you!!!!!! Just cause you don't like the answer its not my fault you conveniently forget!
I've lost count
The easiest way to expose a bullshitter is to ask them to share their knowledge
I guarantee veyva will not come back with details
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
Rinse and repeat
Let's be clear that Walter is saying that the bible contains stories and characters from the Quran.
I think you have just called yoursefl out Walter
Chronological history is not your strong point is it??
Let's be clear that Walter is saying that the bible contains stories and characters from the Quran.
I think you have just called yoursefl out Walter
Chronological history is not your strong point is it??
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
smelly-bandit wrote:Rinse and repeat
Let's be clear that Walter is saying that the bible contains stories and characters from the Quran.
I think you have just called yoursefl out Walter
Chronological history is not your strong point is it??
HIlarious babble.
I am saying the Quran contains stories from the bible.
Of which it must certainly does.
JUst like the Christian bible has adpated stories from earlier deities like Osiris.
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
SEXY MAMA wrote:smelly-bandit wrote:
Come now mama you know more than anyone how much more I know about all things Islam than every person put together in this forum.
Lol Modest much?
The reason I'm asking veyva is to call him out as a bullshitter, the same way I do to you
How many times have you come out with a load of shit about Islam and I have asked for proof and you have replied with "I'm busy now I will show you tomorrow"
OMG I always reply to you!!!!!! Just cause you don't like the answer its not my fault you conveniently forget!
I've lost count
The easiest way to expose a bullshitter is to ask them to share their knowledge
I guarantee veyva will not come back with details
Sorry mama but you're a liar
You never reply to me, all you ever say is "I will show you Tomorrow"
Tomorrow nevr comes with you
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Cuchulain wrote:smelly-bandit wrote:Rinse and repeat
Let's be clear that Walter is saying that the bible contains stories and characters from the Quran.
I think you have just called yoursefl out Walter
Chronological history is not your strong point is it??
HIlarious babble.
I am saying the Quran contains stories from the bible.
Of which it must certainly does.
JUst like the Christian bible has adpated stories from earlier deities like Osiris.
Wrong you said the bible contains stories from the bible
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smelly-bandit wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Sorry mama but you're a liar
You never reply to me, all you ever say is "I will show you Tomorrow"
Tomorrow nevr comes with you
Ok what have I not answered?
Please inform me!
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Re: Real Christians...following their "guide book"
Cuchulain wrote:Sorry did smelly say call out others ha ha ha ha
How many times have you been corrected more like?
Fucking hilarious, unreliable stories found in both books being argued over whether they were plagerized or not. I mean there is countless characters from the Quran in the Bible, the stories differ s and have adapted some what, but it leaves smelly with a huge problem
Well if they were not plagerized, smelly must think Allah exists and did pass on his words to Muhammad, so which is it?
See??
Care to explain how the part in red is possible
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