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Parents Charged With Killing Son In Church
A teenager is killed and his brother is seriously hurt in a so-called "counselling session" aimed at getting them to confess sins.
19:03, UK, Wednesday 14 October 2015
Bruce Leonard and his wife Deborah Leonard are charged in the beating death of their 19-year-old son
A couple have been charged with fatally beating their 19-year-old son in an apparent "counselling session" at a church in central New York
Bruce Leonard, 65, and 59-year-old Deborah Leonard are charged with first-degree manslaughter in the death of their son Lucas.
Four other members of the Word of Life Church in New Hartford were charged with assault for the attack that also left Lucas' younger brother, Christopher, seriously injured.
Authorities said the beatings were part of what parishioners referred to as a "counselling session".
David Morey, 26, of Utica Linda Morey, 54, are charged with felony second-degree assault
David Morey, 26, and Linda Morey, 54, pleaded not guilty to assault
New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said the teens were subjected to hours of physical punishment "in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness".
Investigators are still looking into what the supposed sins were, Chief Inserra said.
Officers responded to the church at about 12.30pm on Monday after family members brought Lucas to hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, are charged with felony second-degree assault
Sarah Ferguson, 33, and Joseph Irwin, 26, were also charged
State and local officials cordoned off the church and began interviewing parishioners.
Several children found inside were turned over to child welfare officials, police said.
Authorities said Lucas and Christopher suffered injuries to their abdomens, genitals, backs and thighs.
Christopher, 17, remains in hospital in serious condition, Chief Inserra told a news conference on Wednesday.
The teens' parents pleaded not guilty at their arraignment on Tuesday and are being held in Oneida County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bail each.
Lawyers for the couple declined to comment on the case.
David Morey, 26, Linda Morey, 54, Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, were ordered held on $50,000 bail. All four pleaded not guilty to a felony count of second-degree assault.
from "http://news.sky.com/story/1569536/parents-charged-with-killing-son-in-church"
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
Parents Charged With Killing Son In Church
A teenager is killed and his brother is seriously hurt in a so-called "counselling session" aimed at getting them to confess sins.
19:03, UK, Wednesday 14 October 2015
Bruce Leonard and his wife Deborah Leonard are charged in the beating death of their 19-year-old son
A couple have been charged with fatally beating their 19-year-old son in an apparent "counselling session" at a church in central New York
Bruce Leonard, 65, and 59-year-old Deborah Leonard are charged with first-degree manslaughter in the death of their son Lucas.
Four other members of the Word of Life Church in New Hartford were charged with assault for the attack that also left Lucas' younger brother, Christopher, seriously injured.
Authorities said the beatings were part of what parishioners referred to as a "counselling session".
David Morey, 26, of Utica Linda Morey, 54, are charged with felony second-degree assault
David Morey, 26, and Linda Morey, 54, pleaded not guilty to assault
New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said the teens were subjected to hours of physical punishment "in hopes that each would confess to prior sins and ask for forgiveness".
Investigators are still looking into what the supposed sins were, Chief Inserra said.
Officers responded to the church at about 12.30pm on Monday after family members brought Lucas to hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, are charged with felony second-degree assault
Sarah Ferguson, 33, and Joseph Irwin, 26, were also charged
State and local officials cordoned off the church and began interviewing parishioners.
Several children found inside were turned over to child welfare officials, police said.
Authorities said Lucas and Christopher suffered injuries to their abdomens, genitals, backs and thighs.
Christopher, 17, remains in hospital in serious condition, Chief Inserra told a news conference on Wednesday.
The teens' parents pleaded not guilty at their arraignment on Tuesday and are being held in Oneida County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bail each.
Lawyers for the couple declined to comment on the case.
David Morey, 26, Linda Morey, 54, Sarah Ferguson, 33 and Joseph Irwin, 26, were ordered held on $50,000 bail. All four pleaded not guilty to a felony count of second-degree assault.
from "http://news.sky.com/story/1569536/parents-charged-with-killing-son-in-church"
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
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eddie wrote:Rags why are you bothering?
We've both explained that we find him patronising etc to black people and I have 2 black friends who have read his posts, and mine, and are left scratching their heads at him.
You're wasting your time.
He has been calling people racist for years.
This is iphis personal little baby and he feels better when he goes to bed, after telling off some "racists"
Ironically, not seeing his own warped racism.
Leave it. Let him dither around on his own.
I think he profits from it eddie. I'm a bit reluctant to believe that he's a lawyer, but I think he gets involved in trying to get compensation for black people, and takes a cut for himself. He can only do that by painting them as victims.
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Quill is a black Muslim!
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nicko wrote:Quill is a black Muslim!
Because he defends Black people?????
Really!
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SEXY MAMA wrote:nicko wrote:Quill is a black Muslim!
Because he defends Black people?????
Really!
He doesn't defend them, he patronises them, and probably makes money out of them too.
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Because he defends Black people?????
Really!
He doesn't defend them, he patronises them, and probably makes money out of them too.
And that makes him a Black Muslim?
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
He doesn't defend them, he patronises them, and probably makes money out of them too.
And that makes him a Black Muslim?
I didn't say he was a black Muslim.
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
And that makes him a Black Muslim?
I didn't say he was a black Muslim.
I didnt say you did
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I didn't say he was a black Muslim.
I didnt say you did
Why ask me the question then?
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
I didnt say you did
Why ask me the question then?
Because you jumped in when i asked Nicko
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Why ask me the question then?
Because you jumped in when i asked Nicko
Only because you said that Quill defends black people - which he doesn't. That was the point which I was addressing.
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Because you jumped in when i asked Nicko
Only because you said that Quill defends black people - which he doesn't. That was the point which I was addressing.
Thats your assumption that he doesnt defend Black people not mine!
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Only because you said that Quill defends black people - which he doesn't. That was the point which I was addressing.
Thats your assumption that he doesnt defend Black people not mine!
I was disagreeing with your assertion that he defends black people.
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Thats your assumption that he doesnt defend Black people not mine!
I was disagreeing with your assertion that he defends black people.
And i was repeating my question thats all there is to it.
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I see you're morphing into Didge.
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Raggamuffin wrote:I see you're morphing into Didge.
Why are you planning to hide behind a mod again?
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I see you're morphing into Didge.
Why are you planning to hide behind a mod again?
You're not account sharing are you?
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Raggamuffin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Why are you planning to hide behind a mod again?
You're not account sharing are you?
So my assumptuon is correct lol
I have better things to do than entertain you.
See ya
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You're not account sharing are you?
So my assumptuon is correct lol
I have better things to do than entertain you.
See ya
What assumption?
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Raggamuffin wrote:I see you're morphing into Didge.
SM is absolutely nothing like Didge.
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sassy wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I see you're morphing into Didge.
SM is absolutely nothing like Didge.
She's sounding like him at the moment - a shorter version obviously.
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Raggamuffin wrote:sassy wrote:
SM is absolutely nothing like Didge.
She's sounding like him at the moment - a shorter version obviously.
Absolutely not.
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sassy wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
She's sounding like him at the moment - a shorter version obviously.
Absolutely not.
I disagree.
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SM isn't like didge.
Nobody, is like didge.
Nobody, is like didge.
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eddie wrote:SM isn't like didge.
Nobody, is like didge.
The comment about taking pills, the comment about hiding behind a mod - that's just like Didge.
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