Tracey Fidler: Mother could be jailed for allowing her son to miss school after his father died

by Guest Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:11 am

First topic message reminder :

A mother who allowed her grieving son to take time off school after the death of his father may be jailed.
Kris Jarvis, 39, was killed in a drinking-driving incident in February 2014. The driver, Alexander Walter, was over the drink limit when he hit Mr Jarvis and friend and fellow cyclist John Morland, 30, at 70mph in Purley on Thames, in Berkshire. Both men were killed in the incident, and Walter was subsequently sentenced to 10 years and three months in prison. In the months following Mr Jarvis’ death, the attendance of his grieving youngest son, Adam, 11, at Battle Primary School in Reading dropped to 45 per cent. Reading Borough Council – who employed the father – is now prosecuting Tracey Fidler, 40, Mr Jarvis' fiancee and partner of over 20 years, for letting their son miss school.

Ms Fidler appeared at Reading Magistrates Court on Friday 25 September, and was bailed until Friday 9 October after pleading not-guilty, GetReading reported, and could now face a custodial sentence. The mother-of-five, who met David Cameron as she campaigned for stricter drink-driving sentences in the wake of her partner's death, said the school was aware of the circumstances but did not agree that her son should have been kept at home. She told The Sunday Times that Adam “was in bits” after his father died, and feared going to school in case his mother “wouldn’t be there” when he returned.

A Change.org petition defending Ms Fidler has garnered over 6,000 signatures in three days.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tracey-fidler-mother-could-be-jailed-for-allowing-her-son-to-miss-school-after-his-father-died-a6670631.html

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:28 pm

Not bothered if its to your satisfaction.
When you show some decorum by answering the many questions posed to you, which you constantly avoid, then I will further expand on. Now you know what to do to further engage a debate.

by Raggamuffin Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:34 pm

Cuchulain wrote:Not bothered if its to your satisfaction.
When you show some decorum by answering the many questions posed to you, which you constantly avoid, then I will further expand on. Now you know what to do to further engage a debate.

In other words, you have no answer. Just as I thought.

I haven't seen anything to indicate that this building will be converted in any way. In fact, the chap said it will cost nothing to chuck out the existing tenants and move refugees in. That suggests that there will be no changes to the building.

Still, it's good to know what a fascist you are, and that you're in favour of discrimination.

I'm glad that Cameron hasn't kowtowed to the Germans, and I hope that he sticks to his guns over this issue.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:35 pm

No I have many answers.
I am just showing how rude and pathetic you are when you go running to admin when I press you for an answer, where you constantly avoid.
See how pathetic you look when you do this?

by Raggamuffin Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:38 pm

Cuchulain wrote:No I have many answers.
I am just showing how rude and pathetic you are when you go running to admin when I press you for an answer, where you constantly avoid.
See how pathetic you look when you do this?

You mean when you badgered me and spammed a thread with the same post 12 times?

You don't have to answer - you can't answer, so never mind. Move along now.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:41 pm

No where I caught you in a trap that either way your answer would have made you look a complete hypocrite and why you went running whinging to Admin, which as seen fell as flat as a pancake, as nothing happen other than some feeble protests from Eddie.
So now when you act like an immature brate as you do daily and fail to answer a question, this is what is going to happen with more and more of your debates.

Not only that I listed many reasons in my answers to Victor which just further proves you are regurgitating the same crap already responded to.
Now go and have a good little sulk lol, as this debate is going in circles.

Laters

by Raggamuffin Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:43 pm

Cuchulain wrote:No where I caught you in a trap that either way made you look a complete hypocrite and why you went running whinging to Admin, which as seen fell as flat as a pancake, as nothing happen other than some feeble protests from Eddie.
So now when you act like an immature brate as you do daily and fail to answer a question, this is what is going to happen with more and more of your debates.

Not only that I listed many reasons in my answers to Victor which just further proves you are regurgitating the same crap already responded to.
Now have a good little sulk lol, as this debate is going in circles.

Laters

Caught me in a trap? You spammed the thread with shite and harassed me. You were just miffed because you were asked to stop doing that.

Feel free to ignore all of my posts - I have no problem with that. In fact, it would be rather nice not to see your infantile and stupid replies.

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:07 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:For some people, moving house is not a "minor" issue, especially when it wasn't their choice, and they had been living there for some time.

Helping people at the expense of others isn't a great idea, and if there's any more of this kind of thing, Germany will pay for it in the long run. Putting their own citizens second to others won't go down too well.

That's it in a nutshell.

Simply dismissing her needs, above someone else's, isn't equality is it?
It's biased.

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:10 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:For some people, moving house is not a "minor" issue, especially when it wasn't their choice, and they had been living there for some time.

Helping people at the expense of others isn't a great idea, and if there's any more of this kind of thing, Germany will pay for it in the long run. Putting their own citizens second to others won't go down too well.

Her needs are of lesser importance in thsi instance.
She has 8 months to prepare to move and I amsure she can ask the council for assistance being as they need the Flats.
Like I say or which nobody can answer.
Where is all the other complaints from the tennants of the flats?

Didge: I am going to remind you that EQUALITY means everyone's needs are equal.

by nicko Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:22 pm

"her needs are of lesser importance" would you say that if it was your Mother?

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:24 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:For some people, moving house is not a "minor" issue, especially when it wasn't their choice, and they had been living there for some time.

Helping people at the expense of others isn't a great idea, and if there's any more of this kind of thing, Germany will pay for it in the long run. Putting their own citizens second to others won't go down too well.

That's it in a nutshell.

Simply dismissing her needs, above someone else's, isn't equality is it?
It's biased.

Both you and Nicko have absurd reasoning,.

What are her needs?

A home.
Does she have a home?
Yes
Does she have plennty of notice to move?
Yes
Is she going to get another home?
Yes

What needs does she have over the refugees?
None, they have no home or even a country now because of a war for the pair of you to even claim her needs are more shopws your views are born from a selfish disposition.
She can always move to another home.
The refugees have no home. So how is her needs more important when she has lost nothing?

If that was my mother she would move know to her it was the Christian thing to do.
She would place the needs of others first as it does not matter what house she lives in only that she is need to her family, where because her children have grown up what need also would she have to stay there.
The only thing is sentiment/

The fact is this nurse does not own the home, does she?
Why is it we do not here countless others moaning here?
Because they are not selfish, as they stand to lose nothing

So maybe you can explain what her needs actually are here?

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:31 pm

nicko wrote:"her needs are of lesser importance" would you say that if it was your Mother?

Yes I would, as if she relaised that young families homeless needed a a refugee complex and that she was just being moved she would not mind and she would very much understand. She was a Nurse and as a Christian places the needs of others before herself. In the end my mother would feel happy that people have been givcen a home, because she knows what happens during wars.
Hope that helps.

by Raggamuffin Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:37 pm

It's a good job Didge isn't in Government - he'd be telling everyone to move to the garden shed so foreigners could move into their house.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:37 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

mars will be first....

Yes it does, you are just one individual whos needs do not outwiegh others, even more so when you grow old as you will need the assiatance of others. So again there is no such way you can claim you are more important than many people.

Tribe?

Oh for fuck sake, they are human, just as you are human.

And that should mean what?? exactly, to me????

I suggest you wake up to the 21st century because you need to out grow this outdated tribal view you have, maainly because it really does not apply in a modern society. You are just one person, so sit and sulk for all i care but your one need does not outweigh others. Also again this country is not sustainable on its own. So lets turn your own fear based argument on its head. Say we do as you say and only help people here. Britain becomes ostracized by other nations, then countless people suffer here. Are you then going to ditch your own tribe and look to yourself because you can live off the land? I am sure those championing your views fail to understand you would have no hesitation of ditchinng them in order to survive. So the tables have turned, and the streets are in anarchy, all because some of you did not want to work collectivelly to help the world with a growing population.

wait and see...what you have just described is Germany's fate ....Its going to go to hell in a hand cart.....the cracks are already showing.....

and you are spreading false fears, describing scenarios based on baseless fears of "being ostracised"...yer...right ho...china, russia india...will all "ostracise us" for not being stupid and allowing ourselves to be bankrupted by this stupidity...... ...REALLY????

you do realise that you have missed the grand plan of Isis all along dont you.....

send millions of refugees fleeing here and screw the west financially.....bet they are laughing their tiny socks off.... This idiocy, aided and abetted by germany is going to trigger another, this time serious, recession.....add to that the unrest they will cause.....ooooooopsss......suddenly the LLA dont look too clever ....

This is why so many selfish arguments fail, as when you apply them back on to your own, they end up creating a far more dire situation.

Mars may well be first but you see there is a possible future where we look to more space, but until then we have to help each other. The selfish way is just a spiral of self distruct.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:42 pm

whats tghis anyway...didge using "fear based arguments"

oh noes...if we dont surrender the country to all and everyone regardless...we will be "ostracised"

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by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:46 pm

1) Yes I will wait and see. Clearly waiting a very long time

2) They are as false as your fears which is the whole point. Both have a possibility of happenning can they not. The point is both are unfounded fears, unlikjely to happen. Bravo, you are starting to learn at last, point made. As seen we have seen plenty of times with even worse situations of refugees where people pulled together and in far dire situations

3) ISIS, blimey not you to gullible to their propaganda? ISIS do not want Muslims heading towards Europe, where in fact their plan has worked for countries to play off the kind of fear you love and close their borders to them. They believe it is a grevious sin to flee the areas around the Islamic state. So your thinking is far removed from theirs. What they do want which you play up to is for people to view these refugees with a fear of which it seems some have falledn prey to. They make twice now claims to sending 4,000 men before January and now again, when they are on the defensive in a war? You see people are very easily led by fear. An unrational fear/ Yes we face some threats but it is standing united against these threats.

4) Germany is doing the right thing, they are showing how far more decent they are than anyone else. I praise them and rightly so.
Its up top you if you want to live off unfounded fears, that is your choice, but I have been hearing the same bullshit for years, of a ricer of blood bollocks and its never happened and do you know? Its because people are out of touch how passive societies have become, even more so the UK. Once upon a time their were riots over the Poll Tax. The Tories now can making sweeping cuts effecting many and where is the riots Victor?
I see hardly anything but a few minor protests
That is why you are living a pipe dream

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:04 pm

Cuchulain wrote:1) Yes I will wait and see. Clearly waiting a very long time

2) They are as false as your fears which is the whole point. Both have a possibility of happenning can they not. The point is both are unfounded fears, unlikjely to happen. Bravo, you are starting to learn at last, point made. As seen we have seen plenty of times with even worse situations of refugees where people pulled together and in far dire situations

what situation would this be then....germany after the war???? different game matey, different game.....those refugees were THEIR OWN people, returning, to rebuild and improve

NOT strangers who cant even speak the language, SOME of whom are there to destroy/freeload/ whatever

the two situations are NOT comparable.....

3) ISIS, blimey not you to gullible to their propaganda? ISIS do not want Muslims heading towards Europe, where in fact their plan has worked for countries to play off the kind of fear you love and close their borders to them. They believe it is a grevious sin to flee the areas around the Islamic state.

except.....surely , the point is to expand the area of the islamic state......????????

So your thinking is far removed from theirs. What they do want which you play up to is for people to view these refugees with a fear of which it seems some have falledn prey to. They make twice now claims to sending 4,000 men before January and now again, when they are on the defensive in a war? You see people are very easily led by fear. An unrational fear/ Yes we face some threats but it is standing united against these threats.

4) Germany is doing the right thing, they are showing how far more decent they are than anyone else. I praise them and rightly so.
Its up top you if you want to live off unfounded fears, that is your choice, but I have been hearing the same bullshit for years, of a ricer of blood bollocks and its never happened and do you know? Its because people are out of touch how passive societies have become, even more so the UK. Once upon a time their were riots over the Poll Tax. The Tories now can making sweeping cuts effecting many and where is the riots Victor?
I see hardly anything but a few minor protests

yes its funny how a climate of fear can supress people...even if its not overt.....maggies heavy handed use of police and MILITARY during the miners strike has born its benefit very well hasnt it....

violent/heavy handed policing of even peacefull protests that we have seen has people scared.

the lefty crack down on freedom of speech has exacted a huge toll.....

all this means is when things DO go tits up...(when and what the trigger will be I dont know) the shitfest will be bigger than it otherwise will be

That is why you are living a pipe dream

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:12 pm

1) You are right it was different. Germany was in total ruin and then had to take in 16 million displaced germans and yet they still rose to the challenge. So these hundreds of thousands far less in comparrison and looking for a home as the displaced germans were to start a new life. So yes different it was far worse situation before. Oh here we go with the absurd bigoted view on language. So they will learn just like everyone else has to learn languages. Its not something that is impossible ios it? So your reasoning is yet again invalidated and again you offer nothing to show it cannot suvcced. You just sound like the same people in the 1950;s spinning the same bull when we had the influx of immigrants to Britain.,

2) Surpress?
Sereiously, what are you smoking?
So people cannot make their own decisions?
No society is less concerned over trivial things, of which your claims are trivial, pathetic and very unfounded.

Violent heavy handed Policing today?
PMSL, seriously did you not watch the riots in the past decades.
Sorry but I am starting to really laugh at your answers now Victor, as they are clutching at straws
Sorry I am getting bored with your lack of reason here and just making even more absurd unfounded claims

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:14 pm

well didge ...all I can say is there are no so blind as those who will not look....

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:15 pm

All I can say is pass round what ever you are smoking

Laughing

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:20 pm

Didge I sincerely find what you're saying very worrying.

So, just because this woman doesn't "own" her house, that means she can just be asked to move?
So what if she is being given another house???

That house is her HOME.

If we are asked to feel sorry and bad for the refugees because they're being driven out of their homes, why shouldn't we feel bad for this nurse?
Same situation, different circumstances.

And for all you know, perhaps the new house will be further from her work/ageing mother/grandchildren/other important factors.

Seems to me, you have decided that she isn't entitled to keep her home because she hasn't bought it.

Nice.

by SEXY MAMA Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:23 pm

Cuchulain wrote:All I can say is pass round what ever you are smoking

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:24 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:All I can say is pass round what ever you are smoking

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

Totally agree

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:24 pm

eddie wrote:Didge I sincerely find what you're saying very worrying.

So, just because this woman doesn't "own" her house, that means she can just be asked to move?
So what if she is being given another house???

That house is her HOME.

If we are asked to feel sorry and bad for the refugees because they're being driven out of their homes, why shouldn't we feel bad for this nurse?
Same situation, different circumstances.

And for all you know, perhaps the new house will be further from her work/ageing mother/grandchildren/other important factors.

Seems to me, you have decided that she isn't entitled to keep her home because she hasn't bought it.

Nice.

I agree, I'm all for the refugees being helped, did anyone ask her if she was happy to stay if refugees were housed there? As a nurse, used to helping people, I can't see her objecting.

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:28 pm

Perhaps sassy, and that's a fair point. IF she was asked and was happy to do so, then that's fair enough.

But to just simply remove someone from their home is not on.
And I bet the refugee family wouldn't think it was right either as they know how it feels!!!

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:29 pm

Cuchulain wrote:1) You are right it was different. Germany was in total ruin and then had to take in 16 million displaced germans and yet they still rose to the challenge. So these hundreds of thousands far less in comparrison and looking for a home as the displaced germans were to start a new life. So yes different it was far worse situation before. Oh here we go with the absurd bigoted view on language.
dont be an idiout.....learning takes time and CAN take a LONG time to become proficient...and some never learn..........those who returned to germany after the war were "ready trained" (since they were german...obviously) moreover the returning germans were (naturally) "culturally compatible" and didnt go round setting up terrorist traing facilities (mosques) in every town they reached, nor did the start numerous "lets ban christmas/ whatever clubs nor did the demand the resident population bow down to their "sensibilities"

So they will learn just like everyone else has to learn languages. Its not something that is impossible ios it? So your reasoning is yet again invalidated and again you offer nothing to show it cannot suvcced. You just sound like the same people in the 1950;s spinning the same bull when we had the influx of immigrants to Britain.,

2) Surpress?
Sereiously, what are you smoking?
So people cannot make their own decisions?
oh yes...but dare they act on them....

No society is less concerned over trivial things,

oh I just knew you would consider the unnecessary deaths of many disabled people a "trivial thing"
that you would consider the injustice of the bedroom tax a "trivial thing" as in this

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brutality-bedroom-tax-exposed-disgraceful-6302099

yep that really is trivial innit??????

of which your claims are trivial, pathetic and very unfounded.

Violent heavy handed Policing today?
PMSL, seriously did you not watch the riots in the past decades.

yep they really are peaceful aint they....."kettling" disabled protestors... for a start.....

like here http://www.theguardian.com/society/joepublic/2011/jan/31/kettling-disabled-protesters-welfare-reform

and I beleive there was an incident a while back where a pregnant woman (who was NOT a protestor) was caught up in such an action...and was refused permission to leave ...despite needing to....

Sorry but I am starting to really laugh at your answers now Victor, as they are clutching at straws
Sorry I am getting bored with your lack of reason here and just making even more absurd unfounded claims

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:31 pm

eddie wrote:Perhaps sassy, and that's a fair point. IF she was asked and was happy to do so, then that's fair enough.

But to just simply remove someone from their home is not on.
And I bet the refugee family wouldn't think it was right either as they know how it feels!!!

judging by the actions of these "refugees" in violence, destroying food becasue it came in a red cross pack etc ...I recon they would simply laugh and sneer.....

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:34 pm

eddie wrote:Didge I sincerely find what you're saying very worrying.
Really how nice for you

So, just because this woman doesn't "own" her house, that means she can just be asked to move?
So what if she is being given another house???
Yes, because she has a home, she is being given notice so this can be made into a refugee centre. The only thing she stands to lose is her sentiments over the home she once lived in
People move all the time, you just did yourself.

That house is her HOME.
Wrong she rents that home, it belongs to someone else

If we are asked to feel sorry and bad for the refugees because they're being driven out of their homes, why shouldn't we feel bad for this nurse?
Same situation, different circumstances.
You can feel bad all you like, never said you could not, but when people ask and bring my mother into this who would actually happilly move because she sees others needs are greater than hers, I know that people are getting desperate in their answers in the attempt to score cheap points

And for all you know, perhaps the new house will be further from her work/ageing mother/grandchildren/other important factors.
Who knows, but her needs do not outweigh the refugees

Seems to me, you have decided that she isn't entitled to keep her home because she hasn't bought it.
Its not up to her to decide to keep a home where she is under a contract. She does not own this home,.
Its up to the ownders. So if you rented out your home and gave notice to the tennant, you are saying its their home really and that you are wrong to give them notice even if you are finding them somewhere else to live?

Nice.

So you tell me that Eddie, would you hand over the deeds to a home are renting out, just because that person does not want to move?

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:34 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
eddie wrote:Perhaps sassy, and that's a fair point. IF she was asked and was happy to do so, then that's fair enough.

But to just simply remove someone from their home is not on.
And I bet the refugee family wouldn't think it was right either as they know how it feels!!!

judging by the actions of these "refugees" in violence, destroying food becasue it came in a red cross pack etc ...I recon they would simply laugh and sneer.....

Not all of them vic

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:35 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:All I can say is pass round what ever you are smoking

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:37 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
eddie wrote:Perhaps sassy, and that's a fair point. IF she was asked and was happy to do so, then that's fair enough.

But to just simply remove someone from their home is not on.
And I bet the refugee family wouldn't think it was right either as they know how it feels!!!

judging by the actions of these "refugees" in violence, destroying food becasue it came in a red cross pack etc ...I recon they would simply laugh and sneer.....

OMG here we go beat the refugees with a stick over decision they did not make

That is utterly pathetic

People do not say anything inregards to the crap you are coming out and yet are having a hissy fit over a woman given plenty of notice to move, from a flat she does not own.

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:37 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:All I can say is pass round what ever you are smoking

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

It's not her house
But it is, her home.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:38 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

Christ on a fucking bike, and you think that makes it not her home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're like Princess Pushy today who said animals have no rights because they don't pay taxes and only those that pay taxes has earned rights, forgetting that means children, the sick and disabled would have not rights and a lot of the royals who don't pay tax.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:39 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

It's not her house
But it is, her home.

Not for much longer as she is going to get a new home, because this home is owned by someone else who have a right to decide what to do with that property

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:40 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:

It's not her house
But it is, her home.

Not for much longer as she is going to get a new home, because this home is owned by someone else who have a right to decide what to do with that property

Only if her lease has run out, and if it hasn't, they don't.

by SEXY MAMA Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:40 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

I can see both sides and let me tell you just because she doesnt 'own' the house doesnt mean its not her home!

What they are doing is wrong simple as that.

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

How many times

It may not be her house

But its her home

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:41 pm

Jesus Didge. You're coming across as very heartless just to win your point.
On any other day, if all of us had said that it was right and just for her to leave the house, you'd have argued that it was her home.

This has become about winning the debate now.
You're not that heartless.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:41 pm

sassy wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

Christ on a fucking bike, and you think that makes it not her home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're like Princess Pushy today who said animals have no rights because they don't pay taxes and only those that pay taxes has earned rights, forgetting that means children, the sick and disabled would have not rights and a lot of the royals who don't pay tax.

Rantafon

Now inventing also a load of bollocks.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:42 pm

eddie wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

judging by the actions of these "refugees" in violence, destroying food becasue it came in a red cross pack etc ...I recon they would simply laugh and sneer.....

Not all of them vic

yeah yeah, we know eddie, ..."its only a few" Rolling Eyes

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:42 pm

eddie wrote:Jesus Didge. You're coming across as very heartless just to win your point.
On any other day, if all of us had said that it was right and just for her to leave the house, you'd have argued that it was her home.

This has become about winning the debate now.
You're not that heartless.

You mean as heartless as all you selfish twats are being about the refugees.

Booooooom

Finally it starts to sink home

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:42 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
sassy wrote:

Christ on a fucking bike, and you think that makes it not her home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're like Princess Pushy today who said animals have no rights because they don't pay taxes and only those that pay taxes has earned rights, forgetting that means children, the sick and disabled would have not rights and a lot of the royals who don't pay tax.

Rantafon

Now inventing also a load of bollocks.

No, just amazed you don't know that people in rented accommodation have rights.

And nothing invented - you want the link?

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:44 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

How many more times

Its not her home, she did not purchase this home.

She rents this home.

How many times

It may not be her house

But its her home

Now its not going to be a her home.
Is it starting to sink in how these refugees also had no choice?
I am trying to make a point to all the heartless idiots over their views over refugees.
Its finally starting to sink in, because these refugees have no home
Do you see how those same people are at odds with my views?

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of how they view others, but I doubt it will ever sink in

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:45 pm

sassy wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Rantafon

Now inventing also a load of bollocks.

No, just amazed you don't know that people in rented accommodation have rights.

And nothing invented - you want the link?

And as usual you are a thick idiot for not seeing my point

Nothing invented to anything I have said, so it had no relevance for seeing my point

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:45 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

judging by the actions of these "refugees" in violence, destroying food becasue it came in a red cross pack etc ...I recon they would simply laugh and sneer.....

OMG here we go beat the refugees with a stick over decision they did not make

they didnt make the decision to virtually riot over that food then...somebody else did it for them ?

That is utterly pathetic

People do not say anything inregards to the crap you are coming out and yet are having a hissy fit over a woman given plenty of notice to move, from a flat she does not own.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:47 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

OMG here we go beat the refugees with a stick over decision they did not make

they didnt make the decision to virtually riot over that food then...somebody else did it for them ?

That is utterly pathetic

People do not say anything inregards to the crap you are coming out and yet are having a hissy fit over a woman given plenty of notice to move, from a flat she does not own.

Really a few minor people riot and you equate this to all refugees

You are talking utter shite

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:48 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:Jesus Didge. You're coming across as very heartless just to win your point.
On any other day, if all of us had said that it was right and just for her to leave the house, you'd have argued that it was her home.

This has become about winning the debate now.
You're not that heartless.

You mean as heartless as all you selfish twats are being about the refugees.

Booooooom

Finally it starts to sink home

Erm no.
No boom and no sinking.

What you have is your own double standards didge.

by SEXY MAMA Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:48 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

How many times

It may not be her house

But its her home
Now its not going to be a her home.
Is it starting to sink in how these refugees also had no choice?
I am trying to make a point to all the heartless idiots over their views over refugees.
Its finally starting to sink in, because these refugees have no home
Do you see how those same people are at odds with my views?

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of how they view others, but I doubt it will ever sink in

No i dont see your point at all.

So because refugees have no homes lets kick the resisdents out too.

That will really build the love in their hearts wont it!

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:50 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:
Now its not going to be a her home.
Is it starting to sink in how these refugees also had no choice?
I am trying to make a point to all the heartless idiots over their views over refugees.
Its finally starting to sink in, because these refugees have no home
Do you see how those same people are at odds with my views?

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of how they view others, but I doubt it will ever sink in

No i dont see your point at all.

So because refugees have no homes lets kick the resisdents out too.

That will really build the love in their hearts wont it!

Seriously is someone handing out dumb pills tonight?

The point is being made to all those banging on about refugees coming here of which they have been literally kicked out of their homes by war. They had no choice, the same as this nurse and look how they are reacting to this nurse being kicked out
I am showing how they are being utterly hypocritical
Now do you get the point?

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:51 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:
Now its not going to be a her home.
Is it starting to sink in how these refugees also had no choice?
I am trying to make a point to all the heartless idiots over their views over refugees.
Its finally starting to sink in, because these refugees have no home
Do you see how those same people are at odds with my views?

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of how they view others, but I doubt it will ever sink in

No i dont see your point at all.

So because refugees have no homes lets kick the resisdents out too.

That will really build the love in their hearts wont it!

Exactly, all it will do is still up bad feelings against them when it is not their decision. Really stupid and short sighted thing to do.

by Guest Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:52 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

You mean as heartless as all you selfish twats are being about the refugees.

Booooooom

Finally it starts to sink home

Erm no.
No boom and no sinking.

What you have is your own double standards didge.

No surpirse you fail to grasp the point, do you want me to dumb it down further for you?

by eddie Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:53 pm

No Didge. You're doing that thing where you pretend is what a trap and a masterplan all along whereby you get to "teach us a lesson"

Bollocks!

You have now seen its wrong and are changing your tactics lol!

I'm off to watch Doctor Foster
Behave yourself whilst I'm gone

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