Tracey Fidler: Mother could be jailed for allowing her son to miss school after his father died

eddie wrote:No Didge. You're doing that thing where you pretend is what a trap and a masterplan all along whereby you get to "teach us a lesson"

Bollocks!

You have now seen its wrong and are changing your tactics

I'm off to watch Doctor Foster
Behave yourself whilst I'm gone

eddie wrote:No Didge. You're doing that thing where you pretend is what a trap and a masterplan all along whereby you get to "teach us a lesson"

Bollocks!

You have now seen its wrong and are changing your tactics

I'm off to watch Doctor Foster
Behave yourself whilst I'm gone

Cuchulain wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

How many times

It may not  be her house

But its her home

Now its not going to be a her home.
Is it starting to sink in how these refugees also had no choice?
I am trying to make a point to all the heartless idiots over their views over refugees.
Its finally starting to sink in, because these refugees have no home
Do you see how those same people are at odds with my views?

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of how they view others, but I doubt it will ever sink in

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

Really a few minor people riot and you equate this to all refugees

You are talking utter shite

sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:No Didge. You're doing that thing where you pretend is what a trap and a masterplan all along whereby you get to "teach us a lesson"

Bollocks!

You have now seen its wrong and are changing your tactics

I'm off to watch Doctor Foster
Behave yourself whilst I'm gone

I'm off to watch the really scary 'Midwinter' on ITV, I'll watch Dr Foster on I Player, so don't tell me what happens!

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:No Didge. You're doing that thing where you pretend is what a trap and a masterplan all along whereby you get to "teach us a lesson"

Bollocks!

You have now seen its wrong and are changing your tactics

I'm off to watch Doctor Foster
Behave yourself whilst I'm gone

Yesd go and watch some lame tv that woill help educate that feeble mind of yours lol
I have made a point because I am sick to death of hearing for weeks now people be so disgusting over refugees losing their homes, but then its no surpise someone like you fails to graps that.

Seriously you would not see a pouint if you walked into one

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Yesd go and watch some lame tv that woill help educate that feeble mind of yours lol
I have made a point because I am sick to death of hearing for weeks now people be so disgusting over refugees losing their homes, but then its no surpise someone like you fails to graps that.

Seriously you would not see a pouint if you walked into one

Yes it's lame TV Didge.

I promise I'll wring my hands whilst watching it though, as I'm sure you do whilst watching lame football.

Cuchulain wrote:There you go Victor proves my point exactly
He argued constantly over a view to care over a German nurse he does not know but not millions of refugees forced from the home by war, persecution, hate, murder, rape, slavery child abuse.
Its all hypocritical bullshit.

actually the point was NOT that she was a "german nurse" or anyone else in particular

it was that she is a native resident of that country....and thus does or at least SHOULD...whether YOU like it or not, have greater rights than these foreigners.

quite lkiterally she has been betrayed by her own govt...and the govt of ANY decent country has a duty of care first and foremost to its owen citizens....

it is claer in this case that that govt has abandoned THAT singular principle on the alter (in this case, being germany) of angst (elsewhere it would be political expediency)

THAT is the point


AS for not seing these refugees as humans...thats bull shit....

HOWEVER...that does NOT mean I consider ALL humans to be homgeneously the same in terms of "value" to me.....

I mean...even amongst my own countrymen...there are few that I would value over my dogs for instance.....

so for instance...if I was tio be presented with the decision to rescue some one I didnt know OR my dog.....guess who I would rescue first????? (<<<< thats a clue)



Its not the refugees fault either that a German individual who works nfor the council decided this who did so based off economic reasons yet atr every turn you use this with which to beat the refugees over for. That is just lame. The point is to help all people, but as seen people go mental over a nurse they do not know from Adam, many of the same people bashing others who have been forced out fo their hoimes.

In other words their arguments are a crock of shit. In this case she is a tennant, of which she is not even in a comparable situation  to whaat many refugees go through. So people want to feel sorry for her, great, I agree, that though pails into comparrison to what the refugees are going through

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:

Yes it's lame TV Didge.

I promise I'll wring my hands whilst watching it though, as I'm sure you do whilst watching lame football.

Football and Rugby bring out the adreniline, its exciting.

victorismyhero wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:There you go Victor proves my point exactly
He argued constantly over a view to care over a German nurse he does not know but not millions of refugees forced from the home by war, persecution, hate, murder, rape, slavery child abuse.
Its all hypocritical bullshit.

actually the point was NOT that she was a "german nurse" or anyone else in particular

it was that she is a native resident of that country....and thus does or at least SHOULD...whether YOU like it or not, have greater rights than these foreigners.

quite lkiterally she has been betrayed by her own govt...and the govt of ANY  decent country has a duty of care first and foremost to its owen citizens....

it is claer in this case that that govt has abandoned THAT singular principle on the alter (in this case, being germany) of angst (elsewhere it would be political expediency)

THAT is the point


AS for not seing these refugees as humans...thats bull shit....

HOWEVER...that does NOT mean I consider ALL humans to be homgeneously the same in terms of "value" to me.....

I mean...even amongst my own countrymen...there are few that I would value over my dogs for instance.....

so for instance...if I was tio be presented with the decision to rescue some one I didnt know OR my dog.....guess who I would rescue first?????      (<<<< thats a clue)



Its not the refugees fault either that a German individual who works nfor the council decided this who did so based off economic reasons yet atr every turn you use this with which to beat the refugees over for. That is just lame. The point is to help all people, but as seen people go mental over a nurse they do not know from Adam, many of the same people bashing others who have been forced out fo their hoimes.

In other words their arguments are a crock of shit. In this case she is a tennant, of which she is not even in a comparable situation  to whaat many refugees go through. So people want to feel sorry for her, great, I agree, that though pails into comparrison to what the refugees are going through

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

Now you argue off now native?
The refugees have home, so their plight far exceeds the Nurse, the point is both have to leave their homes, through no choice of their own. Which is the main point.
So to argue off native is just plain dumb.
Neither should have to leave their homes for reasons out of their hands. Native does not even come into the equation, when they should not have to in her case be given notice and in the refugee case be forced to flee, as their lives are in danger from being murder, tortured, enslaved, raped etc.
The fact is many here have argued off a Nurse they do not know who they view as her being evicted as an outrage, even though she will get a new home, but wish to then with refugees they do not know wish to deny them an actual home.
Its nothing short of utter hypcorisy
You do not even know the vast majoirty of the people in this country, just as you do not know the refugees. You chose to place an elitist view on who should get help, when that is just trying to deny people help.
All should get help if we can provide help and many European countries can help

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

Now you argue off now native? yes...since the duty of care of any decent govt is primarily to its own....simples


The refugees have home, so their plight far exceeds the Nurse, the point is both have to leave their homes, through no choice of their own.
and in each case ...whos is the fault??

Which is the main point.
So to argue off native is just plain dumb. not so...for reasons given


Neither should have to leave their homes for reasons out of their hands. Native does not even come into the equation, when they should not have to in her case be given notice and in the refugee case be forced to flee, as their lives are in danger from being murder, tortured, enslaved, raped etc.

and who's fault is that......

question one.....why is assad bombing his own people.......?

is it becasue they rose up against him for some reason??

well they failed.....and such is the price of failure in those countries....perhaps they would have been better NOT "rising up"



The fact is many here have argued off a Nurse they do not know who they view as her being evicted as an outrage, even though she will get a new home, but wish to then with refugees they do not know wish to deny them an actual home.
Its nothing short of utter hypcorisy

hypocrisy...or a desire to not have to pay (one way or another ) for someone elses balls up????

You do not even know the vast majoirty of the people in this country, just as you do not know the refugees. You chose to place an elitist view on who should get help, when that is just trying to deny people help.
All should get help if we can provide help and many European countries can help

Cuchulain wrote:Its called we all chip in to help.
If you are willing to help chip in for people living on this land, then you have no reason to not do the same for others coming to live on this land.

yes I do have valid reason.....I have finite resorces...therefore if you expect me to spread it further THAT means I can no longer give the same amount of help I do to those I help at present....therby enacting the lefty principle of equal misery to all......

So what price do you want to put on helping humanity?

when will you understand.???????....stuff "humanity".......my "help" is mine to distribute as I see fit.....and if that choice is to be removed from me then my answer is that sorry...I cannot help ANYONE, becasue "half a help is NO help"

How do you even want to try and quantify that?

victorismyhero wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:Its called we all chip in to help.
If you are willing to help chip in for people living on this land, then you have no reason to not do the same for others coming to live on this land.

yes I do have valid reason.....I have finite resorces...therefore if you expect me to spread it further THAT means I can no longer give the same amount of help I do to those I help at present....therby enacting the lefty principle of equal misery to all......

So what price do you want to put on helping humanity?

when will you understand.???????....stuff "humanity".......my "help" is mine to distribute as I see fit.....and if that choice is to be removed from me then my answer is that sorry...I cannot help ANYONE, becasue "half a help is NO help"

How do you even want to try and quantify that?

victorismyhero wrote:oh and theres a difference between "chipping in"...and

increasing the risk of terrorism
increasing the unemployment problem here
increasing taxes to pay for this
having lowered standards in schools (and yes that can be shown to be true) unless a LOT of taxes are raised to pay for specialist help


oh and one )perhaps irrelevant) point occured to me today....

I beleive it was you (might have been sassy) made a big play of how "traumatised" these refugees are...

so...accepting that as true, what you are saying is that we are allowing in a large number of potential psychos...

who will need large amounts of mental health care....


which we cant afford (apparantly)


and who, given the present criminal justice system will have a virtual "get out of jail free card" to play, no matter WHAT crime they commit

"I.m sorry your honour...but my client is so badly traumatised he couldnt help it...."

i can hear the defence brief now........
hmmmmm  dunno...as I said...just a passing thought........

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

That is not a valid reason.
Are you being asked to give more than your finate resources?
No
how do you know?

by finite resorces i mean "expendable income"
or...rather that part of my "expendable income" I consider i can part with with no benefit to me...I.e "charitable giving" and time I spend on local charitable work...

NOW..if my taxes rise...or for some reason my income falls because of this....i wont have that money available.....

It is NOT acceptable for instance that in order to contribute to your dopey vision, I should for instance have to not be able to afford my vehicle in order to keep up the same local giving...
or anything else for that matter....id I am COMPELLED...by taxation or whatever to thus contribute , then my VOLUNTARY giving will have to cease....
#have you yurned into a lefty?? the concept of balancing a budget seems to have escaped you????


Well for someone who claims to want to be a part with your fellow countrymen, telling them you will pick and chose who you see fit is not integrating into that society,

yes and I pay my "collective" bit THEN do more voluntarily.....so that blows THAT out of the air....

as we are a collective nation, not who you chose to find welcome in the world of Victor.
Fancy that, your own argument of integration working against you.
invalid given the above

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:oh and theres a difference between "chipping in"...and

increasing the risk of terrorism
increasing the unemployment problem here
increasing taxes to pay for this
having lowered standards in schools (and yes that can be shown to be true) unless a LOT of taxes are raised to pay for specialist help


oh and one )perhaps irrelevant) point occured to me today....

I beleive it was you (might have been sassy) made a big play of how "traumatised" these refugees are...

so...accepting that as true, what you are saying is that we are allowing in a large number of potential psychos...

who will need large amounts of mental health care....


which we cant afford (apparantly)


and who, given the present criminal justice system will have a virtual "get out of jail free card" to play, no matter WHAT crime they commit

"I.m sorry your honour...but my client is so badly traumatised he couldnt help it...."

i can hear the defence brief now........
hmmmmm  dunno...as I said...just a passing thought........

And we are back to having the same regurgiutated fear arguments which were wrong in 1950, just as they are today. You are far more likley for the terrorist to be home grown
Change the record, because some people might but this bullshit and allow themselves to be bought by fear, as you clearly do also, but its unrealistic.
You just make the most unfounded and qquite absurd claims.


take a hike didge...then re read...who's talking terrorism here...I'm on about crime in general....

This country as others have through history have always adpated and there is no reason to suggest we will not do so now.
We like every other country in the world is facing a population rise and saying lets be selfish twats can and will have consequences being the fact we are not self sufficient, the point you miss everytime. You might be as an individual but the nation is not. That is what you fail to grasp and why the world must unite to help each other. Using the same, fear based arguments will not resolve a damn thing but create a further divide which is not practical when the world needs  to be working together.
Your view is one that is a temp measure that within two decades will see an unprecedented problem with the elderly numbering 25 percent of the populartion.

and in the meantime we will all suffer the financial consequences......great.....

Unless we maintain levels of young people then you will ensure they will suffer through  a lack of people to care for their needs

where??? in "care homes"?????

i suppose its inevitable that compulsary admission to those houses of horror will become common place (i intend to make sure that i have bog all left financially by the time I need it...bloody con it is...look what zack charges)  but most of my generation that I talk to seem quite determined to make sure they dont end up in one....

my attitude is quite simple...if i can no longer cope with life...then I'll snuff it...if i have a choice....

where is the quality of life sitting drooling in a place that stinks of piss?

you know...when I think of it THAT is perhaps the ONE thing I AM affraid of........







and with hospitals themselveds which will struggle. Its not the elderly's fault they are more susceptible to illness but its a reality and one we need to prepare for until the population is balanced. So your temp measure will only stave off far many more problems for only a short time

Cuchulain wrote:But as seen from my last post you are only truly thinking about yourself. Your view is to stem for a short time a growing problem, one that your views clearly are poor and will not resolve as I have just demonstrated, which again is based on your views. Not ones that actually will help the growing problems. Until we can balnce the age groups, then you have no argument, as your argument will only for a short time stem off some problems, but in the end create far more, bring ing the country to a real crisis
So its time you started thinking further than the next couple of years are more like the next few decades. You cannot escape the fact people are living longer and they will need more young people there to assist and help both medically and in a care capacity. There is no escaping this.
This is goping around in circles and I wll never agree with your selfish views which really only seek to help yourself and not the country itself, as if you did you would recognise collectivelly we need to help each other and for the furture.
Clearly you do not.

All the best, but we are never going to agree

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Yesd go and watch some lame tv that woill help educate that feeble mind of yours lol
I have made a point because I am sick to death of hearing for weeks now people be so disgusting over refugees losing their homes, but then its no surpise someone like you fails to graps that.

Seriously you would not see a pouint if you walked into one

Yes it's lame TV Didge.

I promise I'll wring my hands whilst watching it though, as I'm sure you do whilst watching lame football.

Football and Rugby bring out the adreniline, its exciting.

Cuchulain wrote:There you go quality of life, which by your view will ensure many elderly will never have any. That is why the population of age groups needs balancing.


they certainly wont have any in "care homes"



Right have to go, night Victor, as always it was interesting.

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Football and Rugby bring out the adreniline, its exciting.

Are you telling me what should make a person have adrenaline?
This programme gives me adrenaline.

So what's your point?

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Football and Rugby bring out the adreniline, its exciting.

Are you telling me what should make a person have adrenaline?
This programme gives me adrenaline.

So what's your point?

Does it how nice for you, I doubt it gives off the same levels.
There you go, something that you can enquire for people to study on.
The adrenaline levels of watching sport verses TV drams or soaps

Night

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Does it how nice for you, I doubt it gives off the same levels.
There you go, something that you can enquire for people to study on.
The adrenaline levels of watching sport verses TV drams or soaps

Night

Well football (apart from England World Cup) gives me ZERO adrenaline.
So I guess adrenaline is subjective.

Of course, you'll tell me I'm wrong.

Have a nice adrenaline-free sleep.

Cuchulain wrote:There you go quality of life, which by your view will ensure many elderly will never have any. That is why the population of age groups needs balancing.


in which case stop persecuting out youngsters....use all this magical money you seem to think is available to make those "care jobs" attractive and worth while to our youngsters AND ........pay em to breed, i mean its not like they need a LOT of encouragement is it....

Also over 25 years crime has been decreasing overall, so even after many immigrants even on that you are utterly wrong.


you mean "recorded crime" dont you??? as opposed to "real crime figures" much crime goes "unrecorded" either becasue folks dont report it ...Im mean whats the point when the cops only respond to odd numbered properties one week day and even the next??? OR becasue the cops dont report something that IS a crime AS a crime....

a bloke i talk to on the radio (I am a radio ham) down south has his "shack" broken into and trashed....do you know what the cop who (eventually) attended said.....

thats bagers sir....they forced the door open and got in .... I mean...come on......they just were not interested......



Right have to go, night Victor, as always it was interesting.

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:

Well football (apart from England World Cup) gives me ZERO adrenaline.
So I guess adrenaline is subjective.

Of course, you'll tell me I'm wrong.

Have a nice adrenaline-free sleep.

You still cannot grasp a simple point.
Never said you get any levels of adrenaline from sports.
I am saying that wacthing sports create higher levels compared to tv soaps and dramas on average.
So where you may have high levels from dramsa, I would say sports creates higher levels on average. Though no doubt your highest levels of adreniline come from things like for example coming into contact with a spider. Then your levels will be off the chart



Now do you understand?

Have a good evening

victorismyhero wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:There you go quality of life, which by your view will ensure many elderly will never have any. That is why the population of age groups needs balancing.


in which case stop persecuting out youngsters....use all this magical money you seem to think is available to make those "care jobs" attractive and worth while to our youngsters AND ........pay em to breed, i mean its not like they need a LOT of encouragement is it....

Also over 25 years crime has been decreasing overall, so even after many immigrants even on that you are utterly wrong.


you mean "recorded crime" dont you???   as opposed to "real crime figures"  much crime goes "unrecorded" either becasue folks dont report it ...Im mean whats the point when the cops only respond to odd numbered properties one week day and even the next??? OR becasue the cops dont report something that IS a crime AS a crime....

a bloke i talk to on the radio (I am a radio ham) down south has his "shack" broken into and trashed....do you know what the cop who (eventually) attended said.....

thats bagers sir....they forced the door open and got in ....   I mean...come on......they just were not interested......



Right have to go, night Victor, as always it was interesting.

sassy wrote:About Horror Movies, but I expect the same is true for good thrillers, just been watching 'Midwinter of the Spirit' and that certainly worked:

Movies are often viewed as the perfect way to relax: You sit in a comfy seat, eat some popcorn and tune out for two hours.
But there's a lot more to cinema than simply entertainment. Movies affect your brain and body in ways you may not be able to detect.


"Because many films transmit ideas through emotion rather than intellect, they can neutralize the instinct to suppress feelings and trigger emotional release," said Birgit Wolz, a psychologist focusing on movies as therapy, and author of "E-motion Picture Magic." "By eliciting emotions, watching movies can open doors that otherwise might stay closed."
So before you pick your next flick, make sure you know what you can expect.
Comedies
Laughter can offer you distance from your problems and enhance your sense of well-being, Wolz said. In fact, numerous studies have shown that laughter can help your immune system and decrease stress hormones, which constrict blood vessels and suppress hormone activity.
A study by researchers at the University of Maryland found that laughing while watching a comedic film causes your blood vessels to dilate by 22 percent. That's because when you laugh, the tissues forming the lining of your blood vessels expand and make room for an increase in blood flow. Translation: When you laugh at the movies, you're actually lowering your blood pressure to the same extent that you'd lower it when you do physical exercise, said Dr. Michael Miller, director of the University of Maryland's Center for Preventive Cardiology.
To get the biggest heart-healthy benefit from watching comedies, you should be watching movies that make you do a real belly laugh for at least 15 minutes, Miller said.
Know before you go: If you're worried about something and can't come to a good resolution, it's time to see a comedy. "Laughter while watching comedies can relieve anxiety, as well as reduce aggression and fear," Wolz said. "Often, clients are able to approach a solution to a problem they were worried about with less emotional involvement and a fresh and creative perspective after watching a humorous movie."

Horror films
The people who are fascinated by horror movies tend to be the same people who love to sky-dive, go rock climbing and try extreme skiing adventures.
"Riding at the edge of death is, somehow, strangely enough, what makes them feel most alive," Wolz said. And for many moviegoers, the horror genre allows them the opportunity to experience events and people who otherwise wouldn't enter their lives.
Horror films also affect your body physiologically, said Dr. George Bakris, who specializes in hypertensive diseases.
"Very intense movies do increase heart rate, and if you have coronary heart disease, (they) can increase chest pain and blood pressure," Bakris said.
Know before you go: Watching a horror movie can cause a spike in adrenaline and cortisol levels. That can trigger memories of traumatic events you have experienced, said Bruce McEwen, professor in the neuroendocrinology laboratory at The Rockefeller University in New York, and past president of the Society for Neuroscience. So if you have a bad memory that you don't want to subconsciously rehash, it would be best to avoid this genre until you're ready.

If you have a heart condition, and you feel pain or think you're having coronary problems, you should leave the movie early, Bakris said. Everyone else's heart should be able to regulate, so you don't have to worry if you feel your pulse beating faster than normal during the intense moments.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-22/health/sc-health-0622-movies-impact-on-body-20110622_1_horror-films-intense-movies-birgit-wolz

sassy wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


You still cannot grasp a simple point.
Never said you get any levels of adrenaline from sports.
I am saying that wacthing sports create higher levels compared to tv soaps and dramas on average.
So where you may have high levels from dramsa, I would say sports creates higher levels on average. Though no doubt your highest levels of adreniline come from things like for example coming into contact with a spider. Then your levels will be off the chart



Now do you understand?

Have a good evening

Except it doesn't, if you are interested and it holds you on the edge of your seat, it does exactly the same thing as sport.

Cuchulain wrote:

sassy wrote:

Except it doesn't, if you are interested and it holds you on the edge of your seat, it does exactly the same thing as sport.

What did you fail to understand by on average in regards tv drams annd soaps verses sports?
Like I say put this to be done as a study and I Bet sports comes out way on top

sassy wrote:About Horror Movies, but I expect the same is true for good thrillers, just been watching 'Midwinter of the Spirit' and that certainly worked:

Movies are often viewed as the perfect way to relax: You sit in a comfy seat, eat some popcorn and tune out for two hours.
But there's a lot more to cinema than simply entertainment. Movies affect your brain and body in ways you may not be able to detect.


"Because many films transmit ideas through emotion rather than intellect, they can neutralize the instinct to suppress feelings and trigger emotional release," said Birgit Wolz, a psychologist focusing on movies as therapy, and author of "E-motion Picture Magic." "By eliciting emotions, watching movies can open doors that otherwise might stay closed."
So before you pick your next flick, make sure you know what you can expect.
Comedies
Laughter can offer you distance from your problems and enhance your sense of well-being, Wolz said. In fact, numerous studies have shown that laughter can help your immune system and decrease stress hormones, which constrict blood vessels and suppress hormone activity.
A study by researchers at the University of Maryland found that laughing while watching a comedic film causes your blood vessels to dilate by 22 percent. That's because when you laugh, the tissues forming the lining of your blood vessels expand and make room for an increase in blood flow. Translation: When you laugh at the movies, you're actually lowering your blood pressure to the same extent that you'd lower it when you do physical exercise, said Dr. Michael Miller, director of the University of Maryland's Center for Preventive Cardiology.
To get the biggest heart-healthy benefit from watching comedies, you should be watching movies that make you do a real belly laugh for at least 15 minutes, Miller said.
Know before you go: If you're worried about something and can't come to a good resolution, it's time to see a comedy. "Laughter while watching comedies can relieve anxiety, as well as reduce aggression and fear," Wolz said. "Often, clients are able to approach a solution to a problem they were worried about with less emotional involvement and a fresh and creative perspective after watching a humorous movie."

Horror films
The people who are fascinated by horror movies tend to be the same people who love to sky-dive, go rock climbing and try extreme skiing adventures.
"Riding at the edge of death is, somehow, strangely enough, what makes them feel most alive," Wolz said. And for many moviegoers, the horror genre allows them the opportunity to experience events and people who otherwise wouldn't enter their lives.
Horror films also affect your body physiologically, said Dr. George Bakris, who specializes in hypertensive diseases.
"Very intense movies do increase heart rate, and if you have coronary heart disease, (they) can increase chest pain and blood pressure," Bakris said.
Know before you go: Watching a horror movie can cause a spike in adrenaline and cortisol levels. That can trigger memories of traumatic events you have experienced, said Bruce McEwen, professor in the neuroendocrinology laboratory at The Rockefeller University in New York, and past president of the Society for Neuroscience. So if you have a bad memory that you don't want to subconsciously rehash, it would be best to avoid this genre until you're ready.

If you have a heart condition, and you feel pain or think you're having coronary problems, you should leave the movie early, Bakris said. Everyone else's heart should be able to regulate, so you don't have to worry if you feel your pulse beating faster than normal during the intense moments.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-22/health/sc-health-0622-movies-impact-on-body-20110622_1_horror-films-intense-movies-birgit-wolz

eddie wrote:

sassy wrote:About Horror Movies, but I expect the same is true for good thrillers, just been watching 'Midwinter of the Spirit' and that certainly worked:

Movies are often viewed as the perfect way to relax: You sit in a comfy seat, eat some popcorn and tune out for two hours.
But there's a lot more to cinema than simply entertainment. Movies affect your brain and body in ways you may not be able to detect.


"Because many films transmit ideas through emotion rather than intellect, they can neutralize the instinct to suppress feelings and trigger emotional release," said Birgit Wolz, a psychologist focusing on movies as therapy, and author of "E-motion Picture Magic." "By eliciting emotions, watching movies can open doors that otherwise might stay closed."
So before you pick your next flick, make sure you know what you can expect.
Comedies
Laughter can offer you distance from your problems and enhance your sense of well-being, Wolz said. In fact, numerous studies have shown that laughter can help your immune system and decrease stress hormones, which constrict blood vessels and suppress hormone activity.
A study by researchers at the University of Maryland found that laughing while watching a comedic film causes your blood vessels to dilate by 22 percent. That's because when you laugh, the tissues forming the lining of your blood vessels expand and make room for an increase in blood flow. Translation: When you laugh at the movies, you're actually lowering your blood pressure to the same extent that you'd lower it when you do physical exercise, said Dr. Michael Miller, director of the University of Maryland's Center for Preventive Cardiology.
To get the biggest heart-healthy benefit from watching comedies, you should be watching movies that make you do a real belly laugh for at least 15 minutes, Miller said.
Know before you go: If you're worried about something and can't come to a good resolution, it's time to see a comedy. "Laughter while watching comedies can relieve anxiety, as well as reduce aggression and fear," Wolz said. "Often, clients are able to approach a solution to a problem they were worried about with less emotional involvement and a fresh and creative perspective after watching a humorous movie."

Horror films
The people who are fascinated by horror movies tend to be the same people who love to sky-dive, go rock climbing and try extreme skiing adventures.
"Riding at the edge of death is, somehow, strangely enough, what makes them feel most alive," Wolz said. And for many moviegoers, the horror genre allows them the opportunity to experience events and people who otherwise wouldn't enter their lives.
Horror films also affect your body physiologically, said Dr. George Bakris, who specializes in hypertensive diseases.
"Very intense movies do increase heart rate, and if you have coronary heart disease, (they) can increase chest pain and blood pressure," Bakris said.
Know before you go: Watching a horror movie can cause a spike in adrenaline and cortisol levels. That can trigger memories of traumatic events you have experienced, said Bruce McEwen, professor in the neuroendocrinology laboratory at The Rockefeller University in New York, and past president of the Society for Neuroscience. So if you have a bad memory that you don't want to subconsciously rehash, it would be best to avoid this genre until you're ready.

If you have a heart condition, and you feel pain or think you're having coronary problems, you should leave the movie early, Bakris said. Everyone else's heart should be able to regulate, so you don't have to worry if you feel your pulse beating faster than normal during the intense moments.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-22/health/sc-health-0622-movies-impact-on-body-20110622_1_horror-films-intense-movies-birgit-wolz

Ahhhh. I sit back and wait for Didge to comment

Hang on....I need some popcorn

Cuchulain wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:

There is two levels to record crime, both record trends decreasing over the last 25 years

I dont care how many "levels" there are to record crime...the fact is a LOT is NOT recorded in the first place...........

People have also been polled and have been shown to way believe crime is actually far higher than it is.

dont doubt it at all....

People just like you tend to badly exagerate.

as in what???

They did the same on the number of immigrants here, Muslims, you name it and happy to show at least two polls correlating the same thing.

we know well enough "polls" themselves are inacurate anyway......and peoples opinions are always skewed to some extent, due to media coverage....

I bet if you did a poll on volcano erruptions the same would apply

So what you need to show is why with millions of more foriegners are we not seeing a vast increase in crime yet the trends show the complete opposite.
I have never stated that we should expect to see such an increase.....but then again we havnt taken in such a "traumatised" group of people before ...have we....and I'm not saying they will all be criminals...but those that are have a ready made excuse dont they.....

AND my point is still valid, that if they ARE so badly traumatised as you suggested...they they are going to need mental health facilities....which we dont have yes??? and apparantly, according to your leader...we cant afford...yes???

I would suggest that its becsue of the type of crime.....I am willing to bet that what is considered mere "nuisance crime" (and yes burglary is now in that category) is VASTLY under recorded AND under reported....

also to be considered is "like on like" crime...for instance Muslim on Muslim or black on black...i wonder how much is dealt with "within the comunity and "extrajudicially", certainly crime within the traveller community is rarely, if EVER reported/dealt with by the police/courts

Now I am really bored of this so reply if you like but I am never going to see your point here because its based on such negativity and only seeks to make a temp solution to a far greater problem.

Right that is my last post see you tomorrow

eddie wrote:Sport bores me.
So can you explain where my adrenaline would kick in compared to a gripping drama?

Oh wait! You know me better than I know myself!!

seriously Didge go to bed. You're tired.

sassy wrote:I think you'll need that popcorn Ed, we are back to the Waltons and Didge going on and on and on about fuck all.

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:

Well football (apart from England World Cup) gives me ZERO adrenaline.
So I guess adrenaline is subjective.

Of course, you'll tell me I'm wrong.

Have a nice adrenaline-free sleep.

You still cannot grasp a simple point.
Never said you get any levels of adrenaline from sports.
I am saying that wacthing sports create higher levels compared to tv soaps and dramas on average.
So where you may have high levels from dramsa, I would say sports creates higher levels on average. Though no doubt your highest levels of adreniline come from things like for example coming into contact with a spider. Then your levels will be off the chart



Now do you understand?

Have a good evening

Cuchulain wrote:

eddie wrote:Sport bores me.
So can you explain where my adrenaline would kick in compared to a gripping drama?

Oh wait! You know me better than I know myself!!

seriously Didge go to bed. You're tired.

Again where did I say you would have adrenaline kick in watching sports?

Doh

Seriously now you just invent things I never said.

Read back again

Seriously eddie get a brain, as I think the one you have is getting faulty

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Again where did I say you would have adrenaline kick in watching sports?

Doh

Seriously now you just invent things I never said.

Read back again

Seriously eddie get a brain, as I think the one you have is getting faulty

Where did you get your brain from? Just so I don't get one from there.

eddie wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Again where did I say you would have adrenaline kick in watching sports?

Doh

Seriously now you just invent things I never said.

Read back again

Seriously eddie get a brain, as I think the one you have is getting faulty

Where did you get your brain from? Just so I don't get one from there.