Disabled dad told he is fit to work TWO WEEKS before death
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Disabled dad told he is fit to work TWO WEEKS before death
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Diabetic David O'Mar, of Cardiff, was lying in a hospital bed with pneumonia when the DWP made its decision
A disabled dad died two weeks after being judged fit for work as he lay in hospital with pneumonia
Diabetic David O’Mar was stripped of his disability benefits in April after a work capability assessment for Iain Duncan Smith’s hated Department for Work and Pensions.
His daughter Alexandra believes he is one of the growing number of victims of brutal government policies.
She is calling on officials at the DWP – as well as Prime Minister David Cameron – to make good on their pledge to reveal how many deaths are linked to cuts.
David, 58, was bed-bound in hospital on the date of a tribunal to decide whether he should carry on getting disability benefits or was well enough to look for a job.
Despite family pleas to reschedule, the court ruled the former radio DJ fit for work.
He died of pneumonia on April 29.
Alexandra told the Sunday People.: “It definitely affected him. I think it’s disgusting they stopped somebody’s benefits who genuinely needed them.”
She is demanding the release of government statistics showing how many people have died within six weeks of being ruled fit for work and losing their benefits.
Mr Duncan Smith once claimed the figures did not even exist.
But in a climbdown this week, Mr Cameron told MPs that the data is “being prepared for publication as we speak”.
A string of deaths are feared to have been caused by cuts. Stephanie Bottrill, 53, of Solihull, West Midlands, killed herself in May 2013 and left a note blaming the bedroom tax.
She was worried about paying an extra £20 a week to stay in her home.
Diabetic David Clapson, 59, died of a lack of insulin after his Jobseeker’s Allowance was axed over a missed appointment.
The ex-soldier had just £3.44 in his bank and could not afford electricity to power the fridge where he kept vital doses.
As the Government prepares a further £12billion a year in welfare cuts, campaigners fear there are many more victims – including David O’Mar.
Before he fell ill the dad-of-three, of Cardiff, had a £400 bill from the council for unpaid rent after his housing benefit was cut.
He attended a job centre in March for a work capability test, which found he had “limited” ability to work and he had his £100-a-week Employment Support Allowance stopped from April 1.
David appealed but caught pneumonia shortly afterwards and was admitted to Llandough hospital, Cardiff.
He only found out the date of his appeal when his daughter went to pick up things from his flat and found a summons.
Shop worker Alexandra, 26, called the court and was
told to write requesting a postponement, which she did.
She said: “I explained the situation and he’d had notes from the doctors about his condition.
“But then I received a letter saying it wasn’t a good enough reason.
“My dad said: ‘Fine, wheel me into court on my bed then’. He had a great sense of humour. But it was hard to see him suffer with this on top.”
Later that week he had the letter saying his disability benefit had been cut.
David was well enough to return home for a few days and his mum Margaret Moore, 78, travelled from Somerset, where she lives with her partner, to care for him. Mrs Moore was optimistic he would recover in time for his 59th birthday on July 19.
But she said: “He couldn’t walk. He couldn’t see. He was in a terrible state.
“By the end of the week he was back in hospital then he just deteriorated. How was he supposed to work? Something has got to change for people like David.”
Divorced David was nicknamed Dai Poland because he once ran a radio station in the east European country.
When he returned to Wales in 2003 he worked as a football talent scout for Derby County and Burton Albion.
He also threw himself into charity work, collecting hundreds of football shirts to send to orphanages in Moldova and Ukraine for Christmas in 2012.
Alexandra added: “He had a great life, travelling around and helping kids.
“But I would still like some answers from the courts and the judge. Why did they think he could do anything? He could barely walk. I don’t want that to happen to anybody else.”
A DWP spokesman said: “Our thoughts are with Mr O’Mar’s family. It’s wrong to suggest a causal link between the death of an individual and their benefit claim.
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Diabetic David O'Mar, of Cardiff, was lying in a hospital bed with pneumonia when the DWP made its decision
A disabled dad died two weeks after being judged fit for work as he lay in hospital with pneumonia
Diabetic David O’Mar was stripped of his disability benefits in April after a work capability assessment for Iain Duncan Smith’s hated Department for Work and Pensions.
His daughter Alexandra believes he is one of the growing number of victims of brutal government policies.
She is calling on officials at the DWP – as well as Prime Minister David Cameron – to make good on their pledge to reveal how many deaths are linked to cuts.
David, 58, was bed-bound in hospital on the date of a tribunal to decide whether he should carry on getting disability benefits or was well enough to look for a job.
Despite family pleas to reschedule, the court ruled the former radio DJ fit for work.
He died of pneumonia on April 29.
Alexandra told the Sunday People.: “It definitely affected him. I think it’s disgusting they stopped somebody’s benefits who genuinely needed them.”
She is demanding the release of government statistics showing how many people have died within six weeks of being ruled fit for work and losing their benefits.
Mr Duncan Smith once claimed the figures did not even exist.
But in a climbdown this week, Mr Cameron told MPs that the data is “being prepared for publication as we speak”.
A string of deaths are feared to have been caused by cuts. Stephanie Bottrill, 53, of Solihull, West Midlands, killed herself in May 2013 and left a note blaming the bedroom tax.
She was worried about paying an extra £20 a week to stay in her home.
Diabetic David Clapson, 59, died of a lack of insulin after his Jobseeker’s Allowance was axed over a missed appointment.
The ex-soldier had just £3.44 in his bank and could not afford electricity to power the fridge where he kept vital doses.
As the Government prepares a further £12billion a year in welfare cuts, campaigners fear there are many more victims – including David O’Mar.
Before he fell ill the dad-of-three, of Cardiff, had a £400 bill from the council for unpaid rent after his housing benefit was cut.
He attended a job centre in March for a work capability test, which found he had “limited” ability to work and he had his £100-a-week Employment Support Allowance stopped from April 1.
David appealed but caught pneumonia shortly afterwards and was admitted to Llandough hospital, Cardiff.
He only found out the date of his appeal when his daughter went to pick up things from his flat and found a summons.
Shop worker Alexandra, 26, called the court and was
told to write requesting a postponement, which she did.
She said: “I explained the situation and he’d had notes from the doctors about his condition.
“But then I received a letter saying it wasn’t a good enough reason.
“My dad said: ‘Fine, wheel me into court on my bed then’. He had a great sense of humour. But it was hard to see him suffer with this on top.”
Later that week he had the letter saying his disability benefit had been cut.
David was well enough to return home for a few days and his mum Margaret Moore, 78, travelled from Somerset, where she lives with her partner, to care for him. Mrs Moore was optimistic he would recover in time for his 59th birthday on July 19.
But she said: “He couldn’t walk. He couldn’t see. He was in a terrible state.
“By the end of the week he was back in hospital then he just deteriorated. How was he supposed to work? Something has got to change for people like David.”
Divorced David was nicknamed Dai Poland because he once ran a radio station in the east European country.
When he returned to Wales in 2003 he worked as a football talent scout for Derby County and Burton Albion.
He also threw himself into charity work, collecting hundreds of football shirts to send to orphanages in Moldova and Ukraine for Christmas in 2012.
Alexandra added: “He had a great life, travelling around and helping kids.
“But I would still like some answers from the courts and the judge. Why did they think he could do anything? He could barely walk. I don’t want that to happen to anybody else.”
A DWP spokesman said: “Our thoughts are with Mr O’Mar’s family. It’s wrong to suggest a causal link between the death of an individual and their benefit claim.
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lRaggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:sassy wrote:And there was you saying Rags was a good poster Eddie lol
In all fairness, and please be honest, have I been rude or anything? Have I looked as though I'm trying to gain info from people???
She will of course reply with some nasty remark about me - as you know very well, so what's the point in asking her?
Okay rags. I give up!
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yes remembering thing people say ,you can call it a habit if you like i thought people did that ....not you obviously, just you know normal peopleRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
Oh dear i think dean called it collating stalking was just deans wet dream .....your in Ireland right ?
I'm not talking about dean ...
However, it does seem to be a habit you indulge in.
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Raggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
It didn't stop him doing so did it? I just reply in a like manner now.
Never mind - Korban and Victor are revving up for a tag-teaming session, with Sassy in attendance making sly remarks.
So why is that a reason to have a go at me?
Because Korban is the one who keeps on asking me personal questions ...
So why is that a reason to have a go at me?
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korban dallas wrote:yes remembering thing people say ,you can call it a habit if you like i thought people did that ....not you obviously, just you know normal peopleRaggamuffin wrote:
I'm not talking about dean ...
However, it does seem to be a habit you indulge in.
No, remembering what others have said about them, and then broadcasting it on a public forum.
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two questions how old you are and if you had kids .....fuck lock me up obliviously that`s stalkingRaggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:
So why is that a reason to have a go at me?
Because Korban is the one who keeps on asking me personal questions ...
your a silly child and it shows
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eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Because Korban is the one who keeps on asking me personal questions ...
So why is that a reason to have a go at me?
Well why did you suddenly ask that question? Korban replied to you and had a go at me, and you didn't say a word about what you started.
paranoia not from me although ragg`s seems to be that way
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korban dallas wrote:two questions how old you are and if you had kids .....fuck lock me up obliviously that`s stalkingRaggamuffin wrote:
Because Korban is the one who keeps on asking me personal questions ...
your a silly child and it shows
It's not your business. Stop harassing me to answer your stupid questions.
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Raggamuffin wrote:victorismyhero wrote:
Eh????
a few pensions claimed early plus a bit of part time self employment??
perhaps you dont know the meaning of scrounging.....try wicitionary or some such they can help you....
Awww, won't they give you ESA for your imaginary condition then?
hey sweetheart...i retire on full state pension in 3 years time...why would I want to claim ESA...with all that pissing about...I'd only end up telling em to shove it anyway....
I retired from my work....claimed some of my pensions....and play at wood work, which pays nicely for my bunny shooting
So...I get to decide when, how much and who I work for or not
and
when I go out to play, or go on holiday with me big pikey van and caravan
and leaves me loads of time to come on here and rip R/W toss pots to bits
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victorismyhero wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Awww, won't they give you ESA for your imaginary condition then?
hey sweetheart...i retire on full state pension in 3 years time...why would I want to claim ESA...with all that pissing about...I'd only end up telling em to shove it anyway....
I retired from my work....claimed some of my pensions....and play at wood work, which pays nicely for my bunny shooting
So...I get to decide when, how much and who I work for or not
and
when I go out to play, or go on holiday with me big pikey van and caravan
and leaves me loads of time to come on here and rip R/W toss pots to bits
You're an animal abuser as well as a lying moron.
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Raggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Because Korban is the one who keeps on asking me personal questions ...
So why is that a reason to have a go at me?
Well why did you suddenly ask that question? Korban replied to you and had a go at me, and you didn't say a word about what you started.
paranoia not from me although ragg`s seems to be that way
Oh FFS! I was talking in general
I've got alot of time for you rags but tonight you're being a bit OTT
Bid you goodnight
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hold on if they have said on a public forum information that i then refer toRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
yes remembering thing people say ,you can call it a habit if you like i thought people did that ....not you obviously, just you know normal people
No, remembering what others have said about them, and then broadcasting it on a public forum.
hows that me broadcasting it exactly
cant you point to any information i have "broadcast" that has not been published first (not by me)
honestly your not that smart are you
i have never done what you are trying to say i have that`s just your silly temper talking
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eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Well why did you suddenly ask that question? Korban replied to you and had a go at me, and you didn't say a word about what you started.
Oh FFS! I was talking in general
I've got alot of time for you rags but tonight you're being a bit OTT
Bid you goodnight
Says you, whilst completely ignoring the pathetic comments from Korban, Victor, and Sassy.
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Oh dearRaggamuffin wrote:victorismyhero wrote:
hey sweetheart...i retire on full state pension in 3 years time...why would I want to claim ESA...with all that pissing about...I'd only end up telling em to shove it anyway....
I retired from my work....claimed some of my pensions....and play at wood work, which pays nicely for my bunny shooting
So...I get to decide when, how much and who I work for or not
and
when I go out to play, or go on holiday with me big pikey van and caravan
and leaves me loads of time to come on here and rip R/W toss pots to bits
You're an animal abuser as well as a lying moron.
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korban dallas wrote:hold on if they have said on a public forum information that i then refer toRaggamuffin wrote:
No, remembering what others have said about them, and then broadcasting it on a public forum.
hows that me broadcasting it exactly
cant you point to any information i have "broadcast" that has not been published first (not by me)
honestly your not that smart are you
i have never done what you are trying to say i have that`s just your silly temper talking
No, you broadcast it on a public forum after reading it elsewhere.
You can't even remember your own stalking can you?
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Eddie, you're the mod here and the rudeness has been allowed to continue throughout... I know you said something at one point but It has still continued and no further action...
The question was raised about refusing ESA if treatments were not followed and A big hoo haa in response about how outrageous that would be... only to then remember that some here making the big noise were actually arguing in favour of forced medication on another thread!!!
Plus ESA does enforce treatment if problems are caused by alcohol/drugs etc and other drugs "(methadone) can be enforced as part of treatments!!!
ANd KD... moaning about money problems and not having a holiday for 25 years etc... but then admitting to buying copious amounts of weed at £160 an ounce...
If You would rather spend your money on weed...
The question was raised about refusing ESA if treatments were not followed and A big hoo haa in response about how outrageous that would be... only to then remember that some here making the big noise were actually arguing in favour of forced medication on another thread!!!
Plus ESA does enforce treatment if problems are caused by alcohol/drugs etc and other drugs "(methadone) can be enforced as part of treatments!!!
ANd KD... moaning about money problems and not having a holiday for 25 years etc... but then admitting to buying copious amounts of weed at £160 an ounce...
If You would rather spend your money on weed...
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OTT and down the other side if you ask meeddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Well why did you suddenly ask that question? Korban replied to you and had a go at me, and you didn't say a word about what you started.
Oh FFS! I was talking in general
I've got alot of time for you rags but tonight you're being a bit OTT
Bid you goodnight
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Eddie, you let those lot drive VOD off here after you invited her back. Don't you see any of their horrible comments?
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Raggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Well why did you suddenly ask that question? Korban replied to you and had a go at me, and you didn't say a word about what you started.
Oh FFS! I was talking in general
I've got alot of time for you rags but tonight you're being a bit OTT
Bid you goodnight
Says you, whilst completely ignoring the pathetic comments from Korban, Victor, and Sassy.
What did you wish me to do rags? I asked Victor not to make personal comments and you held your own and retaliated.
Shall I tell you all off? Lock the thread? Scream?? Smack your bottoms???
Fuck me. You're definitely taking your shit out on me aren't you?
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eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Says you, whilst completely ignoring the pathetic comments from Korban, Victor, and Sassy.
What did you wish me to do rags? I asked Victor not to make personal comments and you held your own and retaliated.
Shall I tell you all off? Lock the thread? Scream?? Smack your bottoms???
Fuck me. You're definitely taking your shit out on me aren't you?
There's no point asking him not to do it if he ignores you, is there?
This isn't really a debating forum is it? From now on, I shall treat it as a platform to mock those three morons. Trying to debate with them is like casting pearls before swine ...
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oh i remember quite well i am really just waiting for you to bring it up but stalking it wasn`t and it was mentioned on the forum in question that`s how i knew about itRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
hold on if they have said on a public forum information that i then refer to
hows that me broadcasting it exactly
cant you point to any information i have "broadcast" that has not been published first (not by me)
honestly your not that smart are you
i have never done what you are trying to say i have that`s just your silly temper talking
No, you broadcast it on a public forum after reading it elsewhere.
You can't even remember your own stalking can you?
i remember when you first joined and tried this strategy it failed then as well
but have at it i look forward to it
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Tommy Monk wrote:Eddie, you're the mod here and the rudeness has been allowed to continue throughout... I know you said something at one point but It has still continued and no further action...
The question was raised about refusing ESA if treatments were not followed and A big hoo haa in response about how outrageous that would be... only to then remember that some here making the big noise were actually arguing in favour of forced medication on another thread!!!
Plus ESA does enforce treatment if problems are caused by alcohol/drugs etc and other drugs "(methadone) can be enforced as part of treatments!!!
ANd KD... moaning about money problems and not having a holiday for 25 years etc... but then admitting to buying copious amounts of weed at £160 an ounce...
If You would rather spend your money on weed...
Exactly Tommy.
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Oh goody can the gloves come off ? perhaps you could threaten to leave again that`s all ways good for a laughRaggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:
What did you wish me to do rags? I asked Victor not to make personal comments and you held your own and retaliated.
Shall I tell you all off? Lock the thread? Scream?? Smack your bottoms???
Fuck me. You're definitely taking your shit out on me aren't you?
There's no point asking him not to do it if he ignores you, is there?
This isn't really a debating forum is it? From now on, I shall treat it as a platform to mock those three morons. Trying to debate with them is like casting pearls before swine ...
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korban dallas wrote:Oh dearRaggamuffin wrote:
You're an animal abuser as well as a lying moron.
thats alright.....the hypocritical old hag is entitled to her opinion
BUT
she stands need to talk...
I bet she has leather handbags & shoes
wears woolen clothes
OR she wears artificial fibers which come at the cost of VAST enviromental damage and loss of wildlife habitat
I bet she uses a car or if not a bus ....same problem
AND
she is taking a drug that was tested on animals
see these animal rights types are just trouble makers with nothing better to do...
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korban dallas wrote:oh i remember quite well i am really just waiting for you to bring it up but stalking it wasn`t and it was mentioned on the forum in question that`s how i knew about itRaggamuffin wrote:
No, you broadcast it on a public forum after reading it elsewhere.
You can't even remember your own stalking can you?
i remember when you first joined and tried this strategy it failed then as well
but have at it i look forward to it
I gave you the benefit of the doubt after a while because you seemed to have changed, but you haven't - you're the sort of person I thought you were at first, and I will treat you in the way you deserve ...
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Oh dear
thats alright.....the hypocritical old hag is entitled to her opinion
BUT
she stands need to talk...
I bet she has leather handbags & shoes
wears woolen clothes
OR she wears artificial fibers which come at the cost of VAST enviromental damage and loss of wildlife habitat
I bet she uses a car or if not a bus ....same problem
AND
she is taking a drug that was tested on animals
see these animal rights types are just trouble makers with nothing better to do...
Any excuse to try to justify your animal abuse eh Victor.
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korban dallas wrote:Oh goody can the gloves come off ? perhaps you could threaten to leave again that`s all ways good for a laughRaggamuffin wrote:
There's no point asking him not to do it if he ignores you, is there?
This isn't really a debating forum is it? From now on, I shall treat it as a platform to mock those three morons. Trying to debate with them is like casting pearls before swine ...
Perhaps you will have another meltdown about Dean - that would be funny. I hope he comes back and winds you up.
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quaking in my boots raggsRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
oh i remember quite well i am really just waiting for you to bring it up but stalking it wasn`t and it was mentioned on the forum in question that`s how i knew about it
i remember when you first joined and tried this strategy it failed then as well
but have at it i look forward to it
I gave you the benefit of the doubt after a while because you seemed to have changed, but you haven't - you're the sort of person I thought you were at first, and I will treat you in the way you deserve ...
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korban dallas wrote:quaking in my boots raggsRaggamuffin wrote:
I gave you the benefit of the doubt after a while because you seemed to have changed, but you haven't - you're the sort of person I thought you were at first, and I will treat you in the way you deserve ...
Perhaps you could come out with another sob story about your sad life ...
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Raggamuffin wrote:victorismyhero wrote:
thats alright.....the hypocritical old hag is entitled to her opinion
BUT
she stands need to talk...
I bet she has leather handbags & shoes
wears woolen clothes
OR she wears artificial fibers which come at the cost of VAST enviromental damage and loss of wildlife habitat
I bet she uses a car or if not a bus ....same problem
AND
she is taking a drug that was tested on animals
see these animal rights types are just trouble makers with nothing better to do...
Any excuse to try to justify your animal abuse eh Victor.
well YOU must support the abuse of animals.....
or you would NOT take that drug....
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victorismyhero wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Any excuse to try to justify your animal abuse eh Victor.
well YOU must support the abuse of animals.....
or you would NOT take that drug....
Is that why you don't? You torture animals enough as it is.
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probably not and i had no melt down ,just loads of fun making videos that i removed a couple of weeks ago because my point had been madeRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
Oh goody can the gloves come off ? perhaps you could threaten to leave again that`s all ways good for a laugh
Perhaps you will have another meltdown about Dean - that would be funny. I hope he comes back and winds you up.
i am sure he will appreciate you dragging that up again
perhaps you should go and ask him
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korban dallas wrote:probably not and i had no melt down ,just loads of fun making videos that i removed a couple of weeks ago because my point had been madeRaggamuffin wrote:
Perhaps you will have another meltdown about Dean - that would be funny. I hope he comes back and winds you up.
i am sure he will appreciate you dragging that up again
perhaps you should go and ask him
Haha! You went absolutely mental on here about him.
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sob story ? my lifes quite good actually it has its challenges as most do but i am not unhappy in any way i am not as bitter a person as you seem to be when you show your true natureRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
quaking in my boots raggs
Perhaps you could come out with another sob story about your sad life ...
it`s pretty ugly really
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no i made a couple of videos ,he was the one writing to all in-sundry and making complaints to the policeRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
probably not and i had no melt down ,just loads of fun making videos that i removed a couple of weeks ago because my point had been made
i am sure he will appreciate you dragging that up again
perhaps you should go and ask him
Haha! You went absolutely mental on here about him.
now that`s going mental
are you having a stoke or something ?
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korban dallas wrote:sob story ? my lifes quite good actually it has its challenges as most do but i am not unhappy in any way i am not as bitter a person as you seem to be when you show your true natureRaggamuffin wrote:
Perhaps you could come out with another sob story about your sad life ...
it`s pretty ugly really
Not as ugly as your stalking ...
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The lefties have certainly shown their ugly side on here tonight - not that there's a pretty side anyway.
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Raggamuffin wrote:victorismyhero wrote:
well YOU must support the abuse of animals.....
or you would NOT take that drug....
Is that why you don't? You torture animals enough as it is.
I'd like to see your evidence for that...Or rather , to be absolutely precise, evidence that what I do is anymore torture than a slaughterhouse, which, objectively it isnt...
see thats the difference between you and I
my world has a measure of pragmatism in it.....and at least I have the balls to shoot skin and gut my own meat......
AND i do take some meds that were animal tested, I'd rather there was a sensible alternative to that but thats still some way off yet (though the numbers of animal tests have dropped dramatically in the last 10 years, due to the use of tissue culture and computer models)
BUT YOU.....hypocrit YOU take such meds, whilst calling me an abuser....
two faced old harridan
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Okay this is descending into a silly tit for tat now
I did allow the digging at each other to stand as if I got too heavy people would moan... Damned if I do and damned if I don't.
But that's it. Get the thread on track or it's getting locked guys.
I did allow the digging at each other to stand as if I got too heavy people would moan... Damned if I do and damned if I don't.
But that's it. Get the thread on track or it's getting locked guys.
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Raggamuffin wrote:The lefties have certainly shown their ugly side on here tonight - not that there's a pretty side anyway.
funny how you recon I'm a "leftie"
and others here recon I'm a rabid R/W er....
confused.com???????
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yes you can keep saying that still does`t make it true it just makes you look patheticRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
sob story ? my lifes quite good actually it has its challenges as most do but i am not unhappy in any way i am not as bitter a person as you seem to be when you show your true nature
it`s pretty ugly really
Not as ugly as your stalking ...
like a drowning mad woman scrambling for something to hold on to
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eddie wrote:Okay this is descending into a silly tit for tat now
I did allow the digging at each other to stand as if I got too heavy people would moan... Damned if I do and damned if I don't.
But that's it. Get the thread on track or it's getting locked guys.
Yes Miss
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Oh dear, the sexist comments are breaking all the rules ...
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yes i know ?you more a rightly if truth was to be told just not a mental onevictorismyhero wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:The lefties have certainly shown their ugly side on here tonight - not that there's a pretty side anyway.
funny how you recon I'm a "leftie"
and others here recon I'm a rabid R/W er....
confused.com???????
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eddie wrote:Okay this is descending into a silly tit for tat now
I did allow the digging at each other to stand as if I got too heavy people would moan... Damned if I do and damned if I don't.
But that's it. Get the thread on track or it's getting locked guys.
Well I'm not stopping if those tag-teaming morons don't stop.
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korban dallas wrote:yes you can keep saying that still does`t make it true it just makes you look patheticRaggamuffin wrote:
Not as ugly as your stalking ...
like a drowning mad woman scrambling for something to hold on to
It is true though - as you well know.
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victorismyhero wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:The lefties have certainly shown their ugly side on here tonight - not that there's a pretty side anyway.
funny how you recon I'm a "leftie"
and others here recon I'm a rabid R/W er....
confused.com???????
That happens to me too lol
Now let's get this thread back on track please people?
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victorismyhero wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Is that why you don't? You torture animals enough as it is.
I'd like to see your evidence for that...Or rather , to be absolutely precise, evidence that what I do is anymore torture than a slaughterhouse, which, objectively it isnt...
see thats the difference between you and I
my world has a measure of pragmatism in it.....and at least I have the balls to shoot skin and gut my own meat......
AND i do take some meds that were animal tested, I'd rather there was a sensible alternative to that but thats still some way off yet (though the numbers of animal tests have dropped dramatically in the last 10 years, due to the use of tissue culture and computer models)
BUT YOU.....hypocrit YOU take such meds, whilst calling me an abuser....
two faced old harridan
I bet you love to torture those rabbits before you kill them ...
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Ooohh!!!
Eddie!!!
I like it when you give the orders!!!
Night all... early start tomorrow!!!
Eddie!!!
I like it when you give the orders!!!
Night all... early start tomorrow!!!
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Re: Disabled dad told he is fit to work TWO WEEKS before death
Raggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:Okay this is descending into a silly tit for tat now
I did allow the digging at each other to stand as if I got too heavy people would moan... Damned if I do and damned if I don't.
But that's it. Get the thread on track or it's getting locked guys.
Well I'm not stopping if those tag-teaming morons don't stop.
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