WATCH: Virginia cop uses pepper-spray, Taser on unresisting black man having stroke

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Saying he did nothing wrong, a Virginia police officer resigned from the Fredricksburg Police Department after body-cam video showed him using his Taser, and then pepper-spray, on an unresponsive black man sitting in his car. According to the WHOP,  34-year-old David Washington was having a stroke at the time of the incident. The officer, Shaun Jurgens, resigned from the city police department on May 14, and was one of three officers who responded when the disoriented Washington drove the wrong way on a street before stopping in an intersection.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/watch-virginia-cop-uses-pepper-spray-taser-on-unresisting-black-man-having-stroke/

Where shall I go now?.......QUICK! Which thread shall I post on next?......HEEEERE GOES!!

If a police officer fatally shoots an unarmed citizen in the United States – and it was happening on average more than twice a day even before the killing of Michael Brown seven months ago in Ferguson, Missouri – most people find out about it not from law enforcement but from the 24-hour news cycle.

The best counts America currently has of killings by police are the work of activists and journalists – online databases like Fatal Encounters, Facebook compilations like Killed By Police, or Operation Ghetto Storm, which estimates that one African American is killed by police, security guards or vigilantes at least “every 28 hours”.Citizen activists keep the best national counts. But there are corners of the country where the police track use-of-force more closely than any outside activist could. For example if an officer intentionally fires a gun in Montgomery County, Maryland – even if no one is hit or hurt – the police department posts a detailed description of the circumstances on its home page, usually within 24 hours. It is policy.

But transparent police departments are by no means the norm: the United States has no uniform count of people killed by police officers. The problem of missing data stems from more than just police obstructionism or oversight. A national infrastructure for data collection has never been built. Instead a confusing mosaic of city, state and county reporting leaves too many cracks for data to fall through, without imposing consequences for local police failing to report when they kill those they are sworn to protect.“The reality is that there is not a good national data – or even a regional, state or local data on officer-involved shootings,” Laurie Robinson, a professor of criminology at George Mason University and co-chair of Barack Obama’s task force on community policing, told the Guardian.

In step with Obama’s call for better data in policing, and a public outcry for information about police use-of-force in general, policing leaders are increasingly admitting that carelessness, defensiveness – or, in the worst cases, indifference – does play a role in the failure of the country to track officer-related deaths.
A justice department investigation of the FBI’s published statistics has already revealed the worst from a data standpoint: more than half the people killed by local and state law enforcement officers in the US went uncounted in the country’s most authoritative crime statistics every year, for almost a decade.

But now, a Guardian review of how that local patchwork gets put together – including conversations with dozens of current and former police officers, policing organizations, academics and reformers – shows that non-reporting by police is only part of the problem. As many have noted before, the sheer number of local law enforcement agencies – “we’ve got 18,000”, Obama himself said at the White House earlier this month – presents a significant data standardization challenge. It is supplemented by questions at every turn over what a national database of people killed by police would look like, and how it should be built.

In talking about the complexities of the problem, longtime observers and innovative number-crunchers share a quiet hope that a revolution in US crime statistics is closer than ever before, as anger and mistrust turn to reform and technology. “What we will have – hopefully in the next three years – is a robust database in the major cities of all police shootings,” David Klinger a University of Missouri criminologist, said. “Then we can say, ‘You know what, federal government, here’s what’s doable, now pass a law to fund this.’”


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/21/police-killings-us-government-statistics

Tommy Monk wrote:Some more inconvenient truth for the lefties...




When Holder delivered his 2009 “nation-of-cowards” speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.

And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?
Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: “The God’s honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics.”

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as “a black Hispanic” Yet he may be closer to the ‘hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie — in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It’s never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we’ve got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?
What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for “Suicide of a Superpower,” this writer concluded: “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides — in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites — or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.


http://humanevents.com/2013/07/19/black-americas-real-problem-isnt-white-racism/

But the problem with these details Tommy is that they are facts.And facts just don't cook it for the likes of the loonie left on this site.

It's got to be their way or no way,no matter how much the truth is shown to them.

Well considering I am right wing, where does that leave Shady's concept of the loony left?
In the garbage where it belongs?

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Shady and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Dodgy statistics...

"


   About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
   5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
   African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense."



But you are forgetting to mention that whites make up the majority ed population and blacks only 14%...


Also it is the black gangs who are most involved in the network of supply of drugs.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!! Poor bastard.

Shady wrote:HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!! Poor bastard.

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Shady and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodgy statistics...

"


   About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
   5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
   African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense."



But you are forgetting to mention that whites make up the majority ed population and blacks only 14%...


Also it is the black gangs who are most involved in the network of supply of drugs.

Tommy the site idiot is on a bender today so it's pointless trying to reason with it.

Belatucadros wrote:

Shady wrote:HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!! Poor bastard.

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Shady and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

HAR HAR HAR! Here I am idiot. Come & catch me.

Shady wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Some more inconvenient truth for the lefties...




When Holder delivered his 2009 “nation-of-cowards” speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.

And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?
Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: “The God’s honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics.”

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as “a black Hispanic” Yet he may be closer to the ‘hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie — in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It’s never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we’ve got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?
What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for “Suicide of a Superpower,” this writer concluded: “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides — in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites — or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.


http://humanevents.com/2013/07/19/black-americas-real-problem-isnt-white-racism/

But the problem with these details Tommy is that they are facts.And facts just don't cook it for the likes of the loonie left on this site.

It's got to be their way or no way,no matter how much the truth is shown to them.

THey don't like truth... they like to hide the truth, just like they spent over a decade hiding the white British children being raped And abused by Paki Muslims in rotherham and every other town and city across the country...




The statistics I have posted on this thread are all completely factually correct!!!


The evidence is damning!!!


Yet the lefties still wonder why the police have a tough line when dealing with suspect... and especially blacks!!!

Shady wrote:HAR HAR HAR! Here I am idiot. Come & catch me.

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Shady and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

This is the truth of what's going on out in US dodge...









When Holder delivered his 2009 “nation-of-cowards” speech blaming racism for racial separation, Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald suggested that our attorney general study his crime statistics.

In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.

And these may involve the kind of pat-downs all of us have had at the airport.
Is stop-and-frisk the work of racist cops in New York, where the crime rate has been driven down to levels unseen in decades?

According to Kelly, a majority of his police force, which he has been able to cut from 41,000 officers to 35,000, is now made up of minorities.

But blacks are also, per capita, the principal victims of crime. Would black fathers prefer their sons to grow up in Chicago, rather than low-crime New York City, with its stop-and-frisk policy?
Fernando Mateo, head of the New York taxicab union, urges his drivers to profile blacks and Hispanics for their own safety: “The God’s honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these drivers are blacks and Hispanics.”

Mateo is what The New York Times would describe as “a black Hispanic” Yet he may be closer to the ‘hood than Holder, who says he was stopped by police when running to a movie — in Georgetown.

Which raises a relevant question. Georgetown is an elitist enclave of a national capital that has been ruled by black mayors for half a century. It’s never had a white mayor.

Is Holder saying we’ve got racist cops in the district where Obama carried 86 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote? And his son should fear the white cops in Washington, D.C.?
What about interracial crime, white-on-black attacks and the reverse?

After researching the FBI numbers for “Suicide of a Superpower,” this writer concluded: “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides — in America?

And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.

Today, 73 percent of all black kids are born out of wedlock. Growing up, these kids drop out, use drugs, are unemployed, commit crimes and are incarcerated at many times the rate of Asians and whites — or Hispanics, who are taking the jobs that used to go to young black Americans.


http://humanevents.com/2013/07/19/black-americas-real-problem-isnt-white-racism/

Really Tommy after ignoring all the historical evidence I have provided you with on social disparity?

Try again

Also maybe you would like to answer as it seems shady has pissed his pants from doing so.

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Depends whether they were driving down the wrong way in a get away...





Now stop the deflections and address the points in the article and other posts I've made with damning statistics showing massive rates of black violent crime and violence...

Tommy Monk wrote:Depends whether they were driving down the wrong way in a get away...
Now stop the deflections and address the points in the article and other posts I've made with damning statistics showing massive rates of black violent crime and violence...

PMSL so being as the car was not stolen in this instance, you thus believe it is correct to then question the driver then
Your article was comical it had patriots and guns on it a clear sigh of far right drivel.
I posted up historical facts for you and its time you started to address these facts not the babble you posted up

So again

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Shady and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

The Colors of Poverty: Why Racial & Ethnic Disparities Persist





The volume can be ordered from the Russell Sage Foundation by clicking here.
Findings
• Racial disparities in poverty result from cumulative disadvantage over the life course, as the effects of hardship in one domain spill over into other domains.
• In the U.S., one of every three African American children and one of every four Latino children live in poverty— two times higher than the rate for white children.
• By age three, white children have a significantly larger vocabulary than black children of the same economic class. The gap for race is as large as the gap for class, and remains the same through age 13.
• Whites report better overall health than blacks, Latinos, and Asians, even after controlling for poverty, education, and unemployment.
• States with more blacks and Hispanics on welfare are more likely to impose lifetime limits, family caps on benefits, and stricter sanctions for noncompliance.
• The collateral consequences of felony conviction—such as bans on entering many occupations, on voting, jury service, and receiving federal college loans and grants—harm both exoffenders and their communities.
• Residents of a predominately black or Hispanic neighborhood have access to roughly half as many social services as those in predominately white neighborhoods.


Why is American Poverty Still Colored in the Twenty-First Century?
The Colors of Poverty asks why racial differences continue to result in socio-economic disadvantages in the 21st century. Given substantial progress in civil rights and antidiscrimination policies—as well as the increased ethnic diversity of the nation—why is poverty still so colored? Why have racial differences in poverty persisted for so long—and what can we do to confront them?

Ann Chih Lin and David R. Harris contend that poverty results not from a single source but from a cumulative process: any type of disadvantage makes one vulnerable to other disadvantages. The book’s interdisciplinary group of authors finds that when discrimination, beliefs about achievement, or cultural practices elevate one race over another, even slightly, the associated penalties have far reaching consequences. Similarly, small initial correlations between race and negative outcomes in health, education, or residential quality lead to cascades of disadvantage over time. Race is no longer the primary determinant of American life chances. But its continuing effect upon economic and social policy has an exponential effect on poverty.

Lin and Harris conclude that if we are to strive for a society in which poverty is not colored, we must pay more attention to race. By focusing less on the specific causes of poverty, and more on how racial differences in poverty spread from one domain to another, we can develop better, more comprehensive reforms. Reframing the debate over poverty in terms of cumulative disadvantage is a significant shift in how to study its causes and
reduce its impact.


Discrimination, Attitudes, and Culture

The first section of the volume examines how connections between race, privilege, disadvantage, and achievement are constructed. Devah Pager argues that while certain forms of systemic discrimination have largely receded, others have persisted. For example, geographic steering of black and Hispanic homebuyers remains common and 50% of black respondents in a recent Gallup Poll reported incidents of discrimination within the month prior to the survey. In a two-city audit study, employers were twice as likely to hire a white applicant as an equally qualified black applicant for an entry-level position. They were just as likely to hire a white recently released from prison as a black applicant with no criminal history.
Heather Bullock documents attitudes and beliefs about poverty that contribute to contemporary racial stratification. The American ethos of rugged individualism and meritocracy erode support for antipoverty programs and reinforce the belief that people are responsible for their own poverty. Americans today are more likely to believe in the possibility of upward mobility than they were twenty years ago - despite increased economic inequality in that same time period. These beliefs intersect with higher levels of poverty among minority groups, affecting how the white nonpoor treat the poor and what minorities, poor or not, believe about themselves.
In debates about poverty, “culture” is often a flashpoint for debates between liberals and conservatives. Michele Lamont and Mario Luis Small argue that this debate overlooks substantial research into cultural frames, narratives, and repertoires that explains how people evolve different strategies for coping with poverty. In addition, research into symbolic boundaries, cultural capital, and institutional changes illuminates how characteristics attributed to race or ethnicity are instead the product of distinctions, competition, and policy categories embedded in larger social processes. They contend that these research approaches can help to develop richer explanations of racial disparities in poverty, and thus policies that more accurately target levers for change.

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Education, Social Networks, and Health
In the second section, the authors explore factors that are ostensibly unrelated to race but nonetheless contribute to racial inequality. George Farkas analyzes how disparities in household resources, parenting time, and stressors shape a substantial racial and ethnic achievement gap before children even enter school. Black and white children enter kindergarten with very different levels of preparedness, while Asian and Hispanic achievement levels are lowered by the high proportion of parents who lack English skills. These initial differences are exacerbated by class differences, ability grouping, and teacher attention. By fourth grade, black children score more than 25 points lower, Hispanic children about 15 points lower, and Asian children between 5-10 points lower than white children on reading and math tests. Second language learners of any race lose roughly 20 more points on reading and 15 more points on math. Farkas points to the need for intensive, ongoing tutoring programs that start with very young children and are continued at least through all elementary grades, and perhaps beyond.

David R. Williams and Selina A. Mohammed analyze data from the California Health Interview Study (CHIS)—the most comprehensive health database with information on race and immigration—to examine links between health, socioeconomic status, and ethnicity, and migration. SES differences are larger than racial differences in health: differences in health between poor and high-income persons are more than three times the overall black-white difference in health. However, race carries its own burden for health beyond those associated with SES. These burdens are different, not only across racial groups, but also across national origin groups that are generally consolidated into the same race.
Social capital theories are commonly cited to explain racial disparities in poverty. Lincoln Quillan and Rozlyn Redd evaluate several of the most common, pointing out that much research overestimates the effect of social capital while underestimating the impact of other similarities between people in the same social group. They find good evidence for three theories: the effect of friendships on student achievement, the effect of neighborhoods on crime control and social order, and the effect of ethnic businesses, hiring networks, and community monitoring on the economic and educational achievements of immigrants. They argue, however, that the evidence for one of the most cited social capital explanations for poverty—the idea that differences in job search networks perpetuate racial stratification—is at best mixed. Quillan and Redd conclude that even though social capital is an important factor, other processes—such as discrimination— are equally or more important in producing racial differences in poverty.

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Public Policy as a Contributor
In the last section of the volume, the authors show how public policies deepen and in some cases create racial inequality. Housing policies, crime policies, and antipoverty policies concentrate advantage and disadvantage, undercutting their stated goals of improving the well being of all Americans. Michael Stoll shows that the traditional juxtaposition of poor black central cities and wealthy white suburbs has changed. While central cities are still overwhelmingly black, especially among the poor, suburbs are becoming both more racially diverse and more poor. The economic and racial integration of the suburbs, however, has not led to more numerous routes out of poverty. Transportation, zoning, development regulations, and housing assistance tend to perpetuate racial and economic stratification in the suburbs.
Scott W. Allard’s analysis of the availability and provision of social services reinforces Stoll’s conclusions. Individuals in high poverty, highly black neighborhoods are the least likely to have access to food pantries, child care, transportation, job training, substance abuse treatment or other, similar social services. Instead, these services are much more likely to be located in low-poverty census tracts, and in predominantly white areas. Hispanics have more accessibility to social services when they live in mixed-race areas. However, the growing presence of Hispanics in poor rural areas bodes ill for their future access.

Over the last 25 years, the number of Americans under criminal supervision has increased by nearly 400%. Darren Wheelock and Christopher Uggen estimate that 23% of black adult males now have a felony record, preventing them from fully participating in society long after their sentences have been served. Exoffenders are ineligible for federal college loans and grants, which exacerbates the black/white educational attainment gap. Legal immigrants can have their residency revoked, contributing to an 800% increase in criminal deportations from 1983-2003. In many states, ex-offenders are also barred from a long list of employment opportunities; in Florida, these include barbering, septic tank contracting, and pest control. States also permanently remove the right to vote and serve on juries from ex-felons, which diminishes the political power of entire communities: in 16 Georgia counties, more than half of all African American men are excluded from jury duty.
Joe Soss and Sanford F. Schram conclude that the decentralized and discretionary nature of state welfare programs allows for different treatment of racial groups, even when such policies are touted as “raceneutral.” States with greater numbers of blacks and Hispanics on the welfare rolls are more likely to impose lifetime limits, family caps on benefits for mothers who give birth, and stricter sanctions for not complying with work requirements. As a result, nationwide, a majority of white recipients experience the most generous welfare programs and a majority of black recipients, the most restrictive. Soss and Schram put this finding in a historical context that shows increasing government supervision and intervention in the lives of the poor, particularly those of blacks, Hispanic, and Asian descent.

Conclusion and Policy Implications
Each chapter makes an important contribution to our understanding of how race and poverty intersect in contemporary society. Together, they show that disadvantages in one area create new disadvantages in others. Conversely, advantages insulate, allowing those with fewer vulnerabilities to buffer themselves from cascading disadvantage. Simultaneous policies in multiple spheres are necessary to prevent cascades from occurring. The enforcement of anti-discrimination laws in employment, housing, and credit need to be accompanied by the provision of tutoring in all grade levels; the expansion of services in locations accessible to the poor should be accompanied by a reduction in the collateral consequences facing prisoners upon release.
The implication of cumulative disadvantage is that racial disparities will be slow to yield to even overall improvements in equality. Meanwhile, the advantaged, who are most likely to see equality’s benefits, are protected from realizing that racial disadvantage traps others in poverty. Correcting this state of affairs requires moving beyond a simple black-white paradigm, beyond the search for a single cause of poverty or a single policy solution.


http://www.npc.umich.edu/publications/policy_briefs/brief16/

Right catch you all later

You think I'm even gonna bother reading all that waffle...!?


The facts are clear... it's a bloody war zone out there on the streets in US ANd blacks and Hispanics are the major perpetrators of crime and violence.


They are the major threat to the safety and lives of the police.


That is why the police don't take any chances when their lives are in danger just for stopping someone and asking what they are doing etc...!!!

So I produced the collated evidence of two academics and you produce the views of some Patriot gun nut.
lol yeah I think my evidence is far more viable than the drivel you posted.

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?
_________________

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.


And The rest of the facts I have posted are from FBI statistics...




Try again dodge...

Tommy Monk wrote:New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city, he says, but only 85 percent of the stop-and-frisks are of blacks and Hispanics.


And The rest of the facts I have posted are from FBI statistics...




Try again dodge...

A Police Commissioner is your back up now?




Priceless, being as there is institutional racism within the Police I find that hilarious.

So again mine is from academics, you have nothing viable to back up your drivel

Even though that has absolutely nothing to do with why Officers here assaulted this unarmed black man having a stroke#

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Official figures from official sources dodge...



Stop repeating yourself...




And let's not forget korben's little gem where he showed how blacks are responsible for around half of the murders of police while only being 14% of the population.

And I'll put my house on it that blacks are responsible for hugely disproportionately high rates of the assaults on police every year too!!!


Don't forget that The FBI statistics show that 10% of police officers will be assaulted every year!!!


And you lefties wonder why they are on such high alert when dealing with suspects...!!!???


And especially when dealing with blacks...!!!???

You are just repeating the same drivel which you cannot back up whilst it has little relevance to the debate, because you need to answer a very simple question:

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

All facts dodge... all from official sources and FBI statistics...




Looks like your lovely lovely black people are not as lovely as you like to make out...

Nope, try again

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

I think dodge is suffering a malfunction after being faced with so much damning factual evidence...

Try again

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Malfunction alert!!!

Obviously simple straight forward questions confuse Tommy lol

Try again

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

Malfunction...

Tommy Monk wrote:Malfunction...

Obviously simple straight forward questions confuse Tommy lol

Try again

So still waiting on your view to people who drive down the wrong street Tommy and what action should be taken by the Police.
Question them or assault them?

And still avoiding all The facts and evidence I have posted... dodge still keeps repeating the same irrelevant Bollocks from the last page... also avoiding the fact that I already answered it ages ago...!!!


What a twat!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:And still avoiding all The facts and evidence I have posted... dodge still keeps repeating the same irrelevant Bollocks from the last page... also avoiding the fact that I already answered it ages ago...!!!


What a twat!!!

Obviously simple straight forward questions confuse Tommy lol and now claims evidence he posted ha ha the delusions get worse by the minute it seems where he discounts academics and states clearly he did not want to read the facts it seems.

No more chances, you have clearly no idea and back officers to assault people if they have black skin, about as absurd as you can get. Where a man just driving down the wrong way on a one way street whilst he was of course suffering from a stroke.


Game over

And as I already said on my first post on this thread that I am not supporting this police officers behaviour in this incident.




But It is obvious that there is no way on earth for this officer to have known the mans medical condition or why he was driving the wrong way or why he was failing to comply with instructions...



However we have covered many aspects of high risk faced by officers when dealing with suspects so it is obvious to all but the most stupid lefties on here as to why the police are on high state of alert and don't take any chances!!!



Criminals are known to fake injury or unconsciousness etc so cannot be seen by officers as a reason to drop their guard and by doing so facing extreme risk to their own personal safety.

It doesnt matter one bit whether they guy was balck white yellow green or purple with lilac spots

the cop repeatedly ASSUALTED an unresponsive individual

that in itself should give rise to very grave concerns

Lets face it...NO_ONE...and I dont care HOW "hard" they are, is "unresponsive" to a face full of mace.,.....

NO-ONE

therefor following it up with a taser is just pure vexatious criminality...."because he can"

the ignorance of cops world wide to medical conditions that they as front line responders may face is legendary...
I have twice had to intervene when cops went OTT on diabetics HERE in the UK...assuming they were drunk ...rather , than as proved to be the case falling into diabetic coma....

darknessss wrote:It doesnt matter one bit whether they guy was balck white yellow green or purple with lilac spots

the cop repeatedly ASSUALTED an unresponsive individual

that in itself should give rise to very grave concerns

Lets face it...NO_ONE...and I dont care HOW "hard" they are, is "unresponsive" to a face full of mace.,.....

NO-ONE

therefor following it up with a taser is just pure vexatious criminality...."because he can"

the ignorance of cops world wide to medical conditions that they as front line responders may face is legendary...
I have twice had to intervene when cops went OTT on diabetics HERE in the UK...assuming they were drunk ...rather , than as proved to be the case falling into diabetic coma....

A well deserved thanks for that brilliant post.


Catch you later Victor

I too agree... I said I didn't support this police officers behaviour in my first post.

Tommy Monk wrote:For every 100 officers in US, around 10 will get assaulted every year, and between 40 and 70 will be murdered while on duty.



If you were a US cop... How careful for your own safety would you be being...!!!???

There were only 133 police officers killed in 2014 across the entire United States. And there were at least a million police officers in the country last year.

Also:

Line of Duty Deaths: 133

9/11 related illness: 7
Assault: 2
Automobile accident: 26
Drowned: 2
Duty related illness: 3
Fire: 1
Gunfire: 47
Gunfire (Accidental): 2
Heart attack: 19
Motorcycle accident: 4
Struck by vehicle: 5
Vehicle pursuit: 5
Vehicular assault: 10

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2014

By my count that's only 64 that were actually killed by a suspect.

Tommy Monk wrote:How am I lying by showing FBI statistics risingscum...!?


Please point to the bit you are referring to...?

Why couldn't you just comment on the actual story Matt?
The cop was out of order in this instance yes?

What right did he have and what threat was he under, from the man sitting in the car?
It was nothing but an excuse to "attack the black"

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:How am I lying by showing FBI statistics risingscum...!?


Please point to the bit you are referring to...?

Why couldn't you just comment on the actual story Matt?
The cop was out of order in this instance yes?

What right did he have and what threat was he under, from the man sitting in the car?
It was nothing but an excuse to "attack the black"

That deserves a thanks too, already given on this thread to Victor but this certainly deserves it too.
Great post Eddie

Well really, it's all just waffle on here from Matt today!

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:For every 100 officers in US, around 10 will get assaulted every year, and between 40 and 70 will be murdered while on duty.



If you were a US cop... How careful for your own safety would you be being...!!!???

There were only 133 police officers killed in 2014 across the entire United States. And there were at least a million police officers in the country last year.

Yes I know... already posted the details... roughly half of those killed were accidents, the other half felony killed (or murdered).


The number of felony killed or murdered police each year ranges from somewhere between 40-70...


I wish people would actually read what I post.

And I already said in my first post that I did not support the behaviour of the officer in the op.





The fact that 10% of officers are assaulted every year is reason enough for them to be on high alert when dealing with any suspect.


Then add on the fact that between 40-70 are intentionally murdered on duty every year...


Is it any wonder why they don't take any chances!?


I wouldn't... would you!?

You said that was out of 100, I showed that it's out of a million.

40-70 out of a million each year is no reason to go tazing a black man having a stroke.

I never said 40-70 out of every 100 police are killed every year you twat... I said in total.


It was risingscum who said there map 'literally millions' of police in US And I showed it was nearer 900,000.


If you bothered to read my earlier post I quoted FBI figures that over 100 police are killed every year on duty, half of which are felony killed (intentionally killed/murdered).


And about half of those are by blacks who make up only 14% of the US population.


ANd about 10% of police are assaulted every year... that's a huge number!!!


Explaining why they don't take any chances!!!


Would you...!?

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Re: WATCH: Virginia cop uses pepper-spray, Taser on unresisting black man having stroke

Post by Tommy Monk Yesterday at 2:38 pm

For every 100 officers in US, around 10 will get assaulted every year, and between 40 and 70 will be murdered while on duty.


So, either you are lying, or you don't know the rules of writing English to be understood correctly.

Yes 10 out of the 100 will be assaulted...


And between 40-70 (in total) will be murdered every year...



I posted the details earlier in a copy and paste of FBI figures.


It is obvious I didn't then mean that only ten of every hundred are assaulted and between 40-70 of the same hundred are killed...


That would mean between 400,000-700,000 police are murdered every year in US!!!


I can see she punctuation might be a bit out there but come on... that would be absurd!!!


Especially as I posted the figures already in the thread...



But you claimed there are 'literally millions' of police when there are only about 900,000...!


And when you consider that 10% are attacked and assaulted every year... by hugely high disproportionate numbers of blacks... you can see why they are on high alert and don't take any chances!!!



And if you were a cop, you would be acting the same!!!


You wouldn't want to wind up in hospital, seriously injured or dead just for stopping someone and asking what they are doing would you...!!!???