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10
May
Luke 13:11
And behold, there was a woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bent over and could in no way raise herself up.
Imagine being bowed over for 18 years. All you would see is the dust on the ground. That was the predicament of the woman in Luke 13. Dust was all her eyes fell on, all the time, everywhere she went, until she became dust-conscious. Thank God she finally saw the beautiful feet of Jesus, who brought her good news and raised her up.

Now, dust is the devil’s food. The Bible tells us that God cursed the devil to eat dust all the days of his life. (Genesis 3:14) Dust represents death. (Genesis 3:19) The devil wants you to be like him—to fall flat on your belly, crawl and eat dust. To eat dust is to feed on your shortcomings and lack, until you constantly feel that there is so much in your life that you need to clean up. You may not be physically bowed over, but like the woman, you become dust-conscious and life every day is a struggle.

Having a dust-consciousness also affects the way you see others. You look at people’s faults all the time. You point out their shortcomings and rake up their past failures. When you are dust-conscious, you find your relationships robbed of peace and joy.

And if you, like the woman, keep looking at the dust, before long, that inward position of dust-consciousness becomes so entrenched that you become the devil’s food because dust is what he eats. God’s Word describes him as being like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. (1 Peter 5:

If you don’t want to be devoured by him, then lift your eyes above the dust! Instead of looking at your failures, look to Christ who has delivered you from every defeat. See yourself the way God sees you—righteous and holy in Christ. (Colossians 3:12; 2 Corinthians 5:21) You are not dust because you are not in and of the flesh—you are in and of the Spirit. (Romans 8:9)

My friend, the more you realize who you are in Christ, the more you will straighten up and walk the way God sees you—a new creation with His authority, power and overcoming Spirit!

Thought For The Day
Instead of looking at your failures, look to Christ who has delivered you from every defeat.

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Soul, not sole.

That's not what he meant, and you know it.

thanks for the spelling corection playse freel fla to knocj your self out

actually  that`s exactly what he meant because if "god does`t allow it" who does, he is basically saying disabled people are not "gods children"

we basically have two groups of people all the normal people a gift from "god" and all the disabled people "Naturally born"
that`s exactly what he said god does`t allow it

No, he's not saying that.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

I am not harassing anyone, as this is a forum I can reply to anyone I like.
Playing the pathetic victim card again as per usual, when you are not a victim at all.
So I will do as I please and best you get used to that

I'm very used to your harassment. However, it's very tiresome, and you are the one trying to damage Christians - not the other way round.

You mean imaginary harassment.
No I am just trying to open their eyes that they do not have blindly follow something through fear.

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
thanks for the spelling corection playse freel fla to knocj your self out

actually  that`s exactly what he meant because if "god does`t allow it" who does, he is basically saying disabled people are not "gods children"

we basically have two groups of people all the normal people a gift from "god" and all the disabled people "Naturally born"
that`s exactly what he said god does`t allow it

No, he's not saying that.

But yes he did that the logical and inevitable root of the comment

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No, he's not saying that.

But yes he did that the logical and inevitable root of the comment

Please yourself. Why don't you go and harass some Buddhists somewhere and ask them about karma?

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm very used to your harassment. However, it's very tiresome, and you are the one trying to damage Christians - not the other way round.

You mean imaginary harassment.
No I am just trying to open their eyes that they do not have blindly follow something through fear.

You mean you want to bludgeon them into agreeing with you. That's not going to happen.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


You mean imaginary harassment.
No I am just trying to open their eyes that they do not have blindly follow something through fear.

You mean you want to bludgeon them into agreeing with you. That's not going to happen.

Incorrect, as again what do you have to fear in regards to any of my views on Christianity?
If you have faith the answer will be nothing.
You are just proving again you lack faith.

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
But yes he did that the logical and inevitable root of the comment

Please yourself. Why don't you go and harass some Buddhists somewhere and ask them about karma?

Yes he is raggs in can be interpreted no other way

if god does not allow children who are disabled as he stated WHO does ? because they are a lot of disabled people in the world, where do they come from if not his imaginary "god"
And nobody is harassing you perhaps you should read The Epistle of Paul to the Colossians

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Good advice

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You mean you want to bludgeon them into agreeing with you. That's not going to happen.

Incorrect, as again what do you have to fear in regards to any of my views on Christianity?
If you have faith the answer will be nothing.
You are just proving again you lack faith.

I have nothing to fear from your views. The thing is that it's making the forum rather tedious, and we wouldn't want that, would we? You're all over it like a rash all day, every day.

I am actually at the point where I'm considering leaving because I simply can't stomach your boring, arrogant nonsense any more.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Incorrect, as again what do you have to fear in regards to any of my views on Christianity?
If you have faith the answer will be nothing.
You are just proving again you lack faith.

I have nothing to fear from your views. The thing is that it's making the forum rather tedious, and we wouldn't want that, would we? You're all over it like a rash all day, every day.

I am actually at the point where I'm considering leaving because I simply can't stomach your boring, arrogant nonsense any more.

And that`s what debate forums are for ...debate

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Please yourself. Why don't you go and harass some Buddhists somewhere and ask them about karma?

Yes he is raggs in can be interpreted no other way

if god does not allow children who are disabled as he stated WHO does ? because they are a lot of disabled people in the world, where do they come from if not his imaginary "god"  
And nobody is harassing you perhaps you should read  The Epistle of Paul to the Colossians

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Good advice

How about you wait for a reply instead of telling HF what he meant?

You're becoming Didge mk2.

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I have nothing to fear from your views. The thing is that it's making the forum rather tedious, and we wouldn't want that, would we? You're all over it like a rash all day, every day.

I am actually at the point where I'm considering leaving because I simply can't stomach your boring, arrogant nonsense any more.

And that`s what debate forums are for ...debate

It's not debate any more, it's really not. This is a News forum, not a Christianity-bashing forum.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Incorrect, as again what do you have to fear in regards to any of my views on Christianity?
If you have faith the answer will be nothing.
You are just proving again you lack faith.

I have nothing to fear from your views. The thing is that it's making the forum rather tedious, and we wouldn't want that, would we? You're all over it like a rash all day, every day.

I am actually at the point where I'm considering leaving because I simply can't stomach your boring, arrogant nonsense any more.

Clearly you do fear my views because you constantly moan and bitch about them.
My views thus bother you to the point you invent victim-hood, which means you fear your faith being challenged. Now you further use the victim card to claim I am the reason you would leave. If you want to leave, that is up to you, I am certainly and would have no intention that you do not leave, so stop making utterly pathetic excuses and blaming people just because you do not like someones views.

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
Yes he is raggs in can be interpreted no other way

if god does not allow children who are disabled as he stated WHO does ? because they are a lot of disabled people in the world, where do they come from if not his imaginary "god"  
And nobody is harassing you perhaps you should read  The Epistle of Paul to the Colossians

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Good advice

How about you wait for a reply instead of telling HF what he meant?

You're becoming Didge mk2.

I was answering your reply to me ,how about you not defending somebody's statement thus requiring a response

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
Yes he is raggs in can be interpreted no other way

if god does not allow children who are disabled as he stated WHO does ? because they are a lot of disabled people in the world, where do they come from if not his imaginary "god"  
And nobody is harassing you perhaps you should read  The Epistle of Paul to the Colossians

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8

Good advice

How about you wait for a reply instead of telling HF what he meant?

You're becoming Didge mk2.

Unwarranted.
Bitchy
Attempting to goad and shit stir

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I have nothing to fear from your views. The thing is that it's making the forum rather tedious, and we wouldn't want that, would we? You're all over it like a rash all day, every day.

I am actually at the point where I'm considering leaving because I simply can't stomach your boring, arrogant nonsense any more.

Clearly you do fear my views because you constantly moan and bitch about them.
My views thus bother you to the point you invent victim-hood, which means you fear your faith being challenged. Now you further use the victim card to claim I am the reason you would leave. If you want to leave, that is up to you, I am certainly and would have no intention that you do not leave, so stop making utterly pathetic excuses and blaming people just because you do not like someones views.

I don't like your style of posting. You always think you're better than anyone else - it's boring and tedious and you go on and on and on like a duracell bunny.

Now put a sock in it. My faith is fine, even though you'd like to beat it out of me.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

How about you wait for a reply instead of telling HF what he meant?

You're becoming Didge mk2.

Unwarranted.
Bitchy
Attempting to goad and shit stir

Like you don't goad and shit stir from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to sleep.

I give up.........

oh well, at least I know now

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
And that`s what debate forums are for ...debate

It's not debate any more, it's really not. This is a News forum, not a Christianity-bashing forum.

there is i beleve many sections that don`t include News this is a debate forum all topics are catered for

just because your loosing the debate doesn`t mean its not a debate forum but my advice would be to avoid the religious topics if they are getting you so upset
i avoid the Israel ones for that very reason

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Clearly you do fear my views because you constantly moan and bitch about them.
My views thus bother you to the point you invent victim-hood, which means you fear your faith being challenged. Now you further use the victim card to claim I am the reason you would leave. If you want to leave, that is up to you, I am certainly and would have no intention that you do not leave, so stop making utterly pathetic excuses and blaming people just because you do not like someones views.

I don't like your style of posting. You always think you're better than anyone else - it's boring and tedious and you go on and on and on like a duracell bunny.

Now put a sock in it. My faith is fine, even though you'd like to beat it out of me.

Oh for fuck sake. No I do not think I am better than anyone else, that is you wrongly presuming again. I have done plenty wrong in my life of which I do not deny but learn from. You look to blame others for your own failings, and to give an example of this, you actively engage with me in debate and then moan about it. So I will not put a sock in it and beginning to understand more things about you. You are too used to getting your way, and do not like it when you don;t.

You are being taught some valuable life lessons here

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't like your style of posting. You always think you're better than anyone else - it's boring and tedious and you go on and on and on like a duracell bunny.

Now put a sock in it. My faith is fine, even though you'd like to beat it out of me.

Oh for fuck sake. No I do not think I am better than anyone else, that is you wrongly presuming again. I have done plenty wrong in my life of which I do not deny but learn from. You look to blame others for your own failings, and to give an example of this, you actively engage with me in debate and then moan about it. So I will not put a sock in it and beginning to understand more things about you. You are too used to getting your way, and do not like it when you don;t.

You are being taught some valuable life lessons here

You're doing plenty wrong on here, so shove off, you boring, egotistical little man.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Unwarranted.
Bitchy
Attempting to goad and shit stir

Like you don't goad and shit stir from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to sleep.

Thank you for proving my point

darknessss wrote:

stardesk wrote:Darkness, should you have overlooked it, just above, here it is again:

Well said, Didge.  I second that. I've a broad back and can take the abuse, and if need be, give some back.

Darkness, this is a debating forum where we pose questions and/or comments, expecting replies which take the conversation forward. It is not a church or religious meeting house, there are other, more secular forums and websites for such discourse

my reply to that star is encompassed in my reply to didge

why do you think this thread and the pagan thread similarly titled were separated off by the mods??

Thank You Darkness

Can people wanting to tease Christian please do so in the Atheist or one of the dozen or so other Christan threads and leave this one alone.

There are 3, one for Christian one for Pagan and one for Atheist see if you can prove your beliefs the best through something positive rather than trying to tear something down (for these 3 threads)

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Like you don't goad and shit stir from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to sleep.

Thank you for proving my point

Oh - did you actually have a moment of self-awareness where you realised how tedious you are?

Jolly good.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Oh for fuck sake. No I do not think I am better than anyone else, that is you wrongly presuming again. I have done plenty wrong in my life of which I do not deny but learn from. You look to blame others for your own failings, and to give an example of this, you actively engage with me in debate and then moan about it. So I will not put a sock in it and beginning to understand more things about you. You are too used to getting your way, and do not like it when you don;t.

You are being taught some valuable life lessons here

You're doing plenty wrong on here, so shove off, you boring, egotistical little man.

Thank you or proving my point again.
If the above response is what Christianity teaches, then my concerns are well met.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You're doing plenty wrong on here, so shove off, you boring, egotistical little man.

Thank you or proving my point again.
If the above response is what Christianity teaches, then my concerns are well met.

You've been asked to leave this thread alone, so shove off.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Thank you or proving my point again.
If the above response is what Christianity teaches, then my concerns are well met.

You've been asked to leave this thread alone, so shove off.

Because of your rudeness now I will continue to post on here until you learn some manners.
So now its up to you to show some humility and apologize and then I will happily leave this thread alone.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You've been asked to leave this thread alone, so shove off.

Because of your rudeness now I will continue to post on here until you learn some manners.
So now its up to you to show some humility and apologize and then I will happily leave this thread alone.

Fine - I'll continue to tell you what a boring, egotistical little man you are.

I'm not apologising to you - not ever, so you can sit up all night and bore yourself to death saying the same thing over and over again.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Because of your rudeness now I will continue to post on here until you learn some manners.
So now its up to you to show some humility and apologize and then I will happily leave this thread alone.

Fine - I'll continue to tell you what a boring, egotistical little man you are.

I'm not apologising to you - not ever, so you can sit up all night and bore yourself to death saying the same thing over and over again.

Well I gave you an olive branch and you choose to continue to be rude, which seems to be more of a calling to you than the ethnics of the teachings of Jesus.
So now because of your stubbornness, you are the reason I will continue to counter views on here. So until you grow up, I shall post on here.
Now that is irony for you

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Fine - I'll continue to tell you what a boring, egotistical little man you are.

I'm not apologising to you - not ever, so you can sit up all night and bore yourself to death saying the same thing over and over again.

Well I gave you an olive branch and you choose to continue to be rude, which seems to be more of a calling to you than the ethnics of the teachings of Jesus.
So now because of your stubbornness, you are the reason I will continue to counter views on here. So until you grow up, I shall post on here.
Now that is irony for you

You're the one being rude - harassing Christians all the time.

I'll counter your views - when I feel it, and there's nothing you can do about that - except grow up and stop being such a moron.

veya_victaous wrote:

That man would drive a Saint to drink!

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Well I gave you an olive branch and you choose to continue to be rude, which seems to be more of a calling to you than the ethnics of the teachings of Jesus.
So now because of your stubbornness, you are the reason I will continue to counter views on here. So until you grow up, I shall post on here.
Now that is irony for you

You're the one being rude - harassing Christians all the time.

I'll counter your views - when I feel it, and there's nothing you can do about that - except grow up and stop being such a moron.

Because of your poor manners, I will continue to post critical views of Christianity.
All you can do is constantly throw abuse on here and when you do not get your way, that is very telling about you.

My views on Christianity.

It sucks, big time.

So now you are going to continue acting as a spoiler out of a fit of pique

so much for the "tolerance" and "humanism" of the atheist

"I will continue to attack your faith untill you bow down to me"

great........

"Atheists are not in the vast majority, hateful to believers. We only want them to be set free from fear (and see the world OUR way). Christians preach to convert by claiming to opening their eyes to the truth by using fear. (thus confirming that athiests are anti christian) Atheists try to allow people to see the (atheists version of the) truth for themselves, without having to fear."

the whole statement reeks of arrogance and "claimed" superiority. an adgenda similar to the marxist school

whereby the vast majority of the left dont "hate freedom" they just know whats best and what sort of freedom we should all have ...regardless......

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You're the one being rude - harassing Christians all the time.

I'll counter your views - when I feel it, and there's nothing you can do about that - except grow up and stop being such a moron.

Because of your poor manners, I will continue to post critical views of Christianity.
All you can do is constantly throw abuse on here and when you do not get your way, that is very telling about you.

My views on Christianity.

It sucks, big time.

Blah, blah, blah, says you.

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.

Fancy disrupting a funeral - how pathetic are you?

Raggamuffin wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

That man would drive a Saint to drink!

Yet more immaturity and shit stirring.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That man would drive a Saint to drink!

Yet more immaturity and shit stirring.

Grow up.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Because of your poor manners, I will continue to post critical views of Christianity.
All you can do is constantly throw abuse on here and when you do not get your way, that is very telling about you.

My views on Christianity.

It sucks, big time.

Blah, blah, blah, says you.

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.

Fancy disrupting a funeral - how pathetic are you?

And Jesus said to Paul:

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.


So standing up for the dying wishes of my brother is wrong is it?
He did not want a Christian funeral.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


Yet more immaturity and shit stirring.

Grow up.

Pot kettle black lol

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Blah, blah, blah, says you.

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.

Fancy disrupting a funeral - how pathetic are you?

And Jesus said to Paul:

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.


So standing up for the dying wishes of my brother is wrong is it?
He did not want a Christian funeral.

Yes, it is pathetic.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


And Jesus said to Paul:

You're just bitter because you have no faith and you wish you did.


So standing up for the dying wishes of my brother is wrong is it?
He did not want a Christian funeral.

Yes, it is pathetic.

Oh so now you insult the memory of my brother also, of which the anniversary of his death was this week. Whee he had Christians impose there wishes and not his.
How Christian of you.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes, it is pathetic.

Oh so now you insult the memory of my brother also, of which the anniversary of his death was this week. Whee he had Christians impose there wishes and not his.
How Christian of you.

Well it is pathetic to make a scene at the funeral.

How very Athiest of you to disrespect a funeral service.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Oh so now you insult the memory of my brother also, of which the anniversary of his death was this week. Whee he had Christians impose there wishes and not his.
How Christian of you.

Well it is pathetic to make a scene at the funeral.

How very Athiest of you to disrespect a funeral service.

The funeral service was disrespecting my brother, he did not want a Christian service or burial. Dam right I called it an utter disgrace and an insult to my brothers wishes.

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well it is pathetic to make a scene at the funeral.

How very Athiest of you to disrespect a funeral service.

The funeral service was disrespecting my brother, he did not want a Christian service or burial. Dam right I called it an utter disgrace and an insult to my brothers wishes.

The time to object was beforehand, not in the middle of a funeral. Where was your respect for the people who arranged it?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

Oh so now you insult the memory of my brother also, of which the anniversary of his death was this week. Whee he had Christians impose there wishes and not his.
How Christian of you.

Well it is pathetic to make a scene at the funeral.

How very Athiest of you to disrespect a funeral service.

Might I just say, my youngest daughter was not Christian, and neither am I, but we had a Church service for her to help my oldest daughter, a Vicar for the Church Army.   If anyone had made a scene because my youngest wasn't Christian I would have, quite literally, killed them.

risingsun wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well it is pathetic to make a scene at the funeral.

How very Athiest of you to disrespect a funeral service.

Might I just say, my youngest daughter was not Christian, and neither am I, but we had a Church service for her to help my oldest daughter, a Vicar for the Church Army.   If anyone had made a scene because my youngest wasn't Christian I would have, quite literally, killed them.

So you think my brothers final wish does not count then, insulting his very memmory?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:

The funeral service was disrespecting my brother, he did not want a Christian service or burial. Dam right I called it an utter disgrace and an insult to my brothers wishes.

The time to object was beforehand, not in the middle of a funeral. Where was your respect for the people who arranged it?

I did object before hand, as did my sister, we both walked out of the service in disgust. I was angry to hell my mother went against his wishes, knowingly doing so because she still classed him as Christian. She knew what she did was wrong

Belatucadros wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

The time to object was beforehand, not in the middle of a funeral. Where was your respect for the people who arranged it?

I did object before hand, as did my sister, we both walked out of the service in disgust. I was angry to hell my mother went against his wishes, knowingly doing so because she still classed him as Christian. She knew what she did was wrong

So why go to the funeral at all then?

I think didge that you need to think hard just WHO a funeral service is for......

little things like why do we show respect for the dead (in general) regardless of what we actually think of the dead person

why do you think I found the reaction amongst some to thatchers death disgusting (since I couldnt stand the old trout)

do you not think that it was out of respect for her loved ones left, who were grieving ,

are THEY not the ones who mattered?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Belatucadros wrote:


I did object before hand, as did my sister, we both walked out of the service in disgust. I was angry to hell my mother went against his wishes, knowingly doing so because she still classed him as Christian. She knew what she did was wrong

So why go to the funeral at all then?

To make the point it was wrong.

I mean ...what possible harm could it do your brother?
when clearly it meant so much for your mother?