Well done UKIP

by Guest Fri May 08, 2015 10:50 am

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Got to feel sorry for those plucky losers UKIP with 1 seat.

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by Tommy Monk Tue May 12, 2015 2:09 am

Do you support the English and The UK in having this right...!?

by Raggamuffin Tue May 12, 2015 11:01 am

UKIP has won control of the Council in Thanet. Laughing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11594819/Ukip-takes-control-of-Thanet-council-the-day-after-Nigel-Farage-lost-MP-bid.html

by Raggamuffin Tue May 12, 2015 3:34 pm

Ah, I was wondering where Nigel Farage was when he did his resignation speech, as it looks nice. It was apparently outside The Botany Bay Hotel in Broadstairs. I must go there one day. Laughing

by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 6:10 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Why won't any of the 'progressive' lefties answer this simple question of democracy?

They don't know how to.

by Ben Reilly Tue May 12, 2015 10:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:The UKIP party has refused to accept Nigel Farage's resignation, so he's still the leader.

They're even bigger idiots than I thought ...

Ben, do you believe in democracy and The right to self govt and self rule?

For a country to have control over it's laws, rules, regulations and borders?

Of course I believe in those things, what a dumb question.

by veya_victaous Wed May 13, 2015 12:26 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Do you support the English and The UK in having this right...!?

as a state or province of the United states of Europe
Twisted Evil

by Tommy Monk Wed May 13, 2015 1:59 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben, do you believe in democracy and The right to self govt and self rule?

For a country to have control over it's laws, rules, regulations and borders?

Of course I believe in those things, what a dumb question.

It's not a dumb question... it is dumb to say you support these things while also supporting the EU dictatorship which only exists through the theft of democracy.

by veya_victaous Wed May 13, 2015 2:11 am

@TM
no you have representative democracy and your democratic representatives agreed with it

the Fact that You Personally hate Democracy so much you don't want to accept what your Representative voted for is another issue all together

by Ben Reilly Wed May 13, 2015 2:20 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben, do you believe in democracy and The right to self govt and self rule?

For a country to have control over it's laws, rules, regulations and borders?

Of course I believe in those things, what a dumb question.

It's not a dumb question... it is dumb to say you support these things while also supporting the EU dictatorship which only exists through the theft of democracy.

I hate to break it to you, but I couldn't really care less about the EU. Let me demonstrate:

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by Tommy Monk Wed May 13, 2015 2:53 am

Veya... you are a tit!!!

Democracy is not something any elected representative has the power to give away!!!

by veya_victaous Wed May 13, 2015 5:33 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Veya... you are a tit!!!

Democracy is not something any elected representative has the power to give away!!!

LOLZ

Representative democracy DOES and has before HOW DO YOU THINK THE USA WAS MADE?
You seem to think direct democracy has existed IT HAS NOT.. Nations Particularly the UK did everything they could to stop it back in the 1700's
The best we have ever had is representative democracy and YOUR Representative Definitive does have the ability to give away further votes On YOUR Behalf

It has nothing to do with what I agree with... I am Anti British Empire because of this...

by nicko Wed May 13, 2015 6:55 am

NO Veya, you are ant-British because, you just don't like the British!!

by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 8:27 am

nicko wrote:NO Veya, you are ant-British because, you just don't like the British!!

Veya is anti-English - he doesn't seem to mind the Scots.

by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 8:29 am

Furthermore, he seems to dislike anyone who was merely born in England.

by Tommy Monk Wed May 13, 2015 1:06 pm

Funny he likes the Scots after their equal responsibility for the US And Australia...

But again I repeat, democracy is not something that belongs to politicians to give away, any more than a school belongs to the teachers to give away or a car park attendant has the right to give away parts of your car.

That is why it was necessary for the British people to give their permission 40 years ago when they agreed to the simple trade arrangement on steel and coal... it has been mission creep since then to a complete political construct that has now evolved into a dictatorship over 80% of our laws, rule, and regulations.

The British people have never agreed to this so it has no legitimacy.

by veya_victaous Thu May 14, 2015 12:01 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
nicko wrote:NO Veya, you are ant-British because, you just don't like the British!!

Veya is anti-English - he doesn't seem to mind the Scots.

I love teasing the English

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by veya_victaous Thu May 14, 2015 12:02 am

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 12:45 am

you realise of course what my reply to that is dont you

well piss off back home then.....

by Irn Bru Thu May 14, 2015 12:59 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Funny he likes the Scots after their equal responsibility for the US And Australia...

But again I repeat, democracy is not something that belongs to politicians to give away, any more than a school belongs to the teachers to give away or a car park attendant has the right to give away parts of your car.

That is why it was necessary for the British people to give their permission 40 years ago when they agreed to the simple trade arrangement on steel and coal... it has been mission creep since then to a complete political construct that has now evolved into a dictatorship over 80% of our laws, rule, and regulations.

The British people have never agreed to this so it has no legitimacy.

When did the British people to give their permission 40 years ago when they agreed to the simple trade arrangement on steel and coal?

That's a new one on me.

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 1:14 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16089649

What was it that the then British people agreed to be part of 40 years ago...?

And what happened since then without the consent of the British people...!?

by Irn Bru Thu May 14, 2015 1:19 am

Tommy Monk wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16089649

What was it that the then British people agreed to be part of 40 years ago...?

And what happened since then without the consent of the British people...!?

Yes, I know that but where did the British people sign up to a simple trade deal on coal and steel?

by Raggamuffin Thu May 14, 2015 8:18 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Veya is anti-English - he doesn't seem to mind the Scots.

I love teasing the English

That's because you envy us. cheers

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 8:24 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

I love teasing the English

That's because you envy us.

So you do understand privilege after all then. As without privilege, what is there to be envious of?

by Ben Reilly Thu May 14, 2015 8:29 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Veya is anti-English - he doesn't seem to mind the Scots.

I love teasing the English

That's because you envy us.

I think it's more that Veya is an empathetic guy, who can vicariously feel what it must be like to be living in the dusty, crumbling vestige of a once-great empire and figures a little ribbing will soothe the pain ... Smile

by Raggamuffin Thu May 14, 2015 8:31 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That's because you envy us.

I think it's more that Veya is an empathetic guy, who can vicariously feel what it must be like to be living in the dusty, crumbling vestige of a once-great empire and figures a little ribbing will soothe the pain ...

You envy us as well. cheers

by Ben Reilly Thu May 14, 2015 8:31 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That's because you envy us.

I think it's more that Veya is an empathetic guy, who can vicariously feel what it must be like to be living in the dusty, crumbling vestige of a once-great empire and figures a little ribbing will soothe the pain ...

You envy us as well.

Meh ...

by veya_victaous Thu May 14, 2015 10:53 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That's because you envy us.

I think it's more that Veya is an empathetic guy, who can vicariously feel what it must be like to be living in the dusty, crumbling vestige of a once-great empire and figures a little ribbing will soothe the pain ...

You envy us as well.

raggs has a sense of humor Razz

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 3:46 pm

Those claiming that there can be significant renegotiation with The EU might want to have a look at This...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3078669/Blow-Cameron-Germany-REJECTS-demand-EU-treaty-change-Brussels-talks-election.html#ixzz3a3o7D4Am

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 3:52 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Those claiming that there can be significant renegotiation with The EU might want to have a look at This...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3078669/Blow-Cameron-Germany-REJECTS-demand-EU-treaty-change-Brussels-talks-election.html#ixzz3a3o7D4Am

I never knew German was the whole of the EU

How strange

by nicko Thu May 14, 2015 3:57 pm

In the EU,what Germany says goes!

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 3:58 pm

nicko wrote:In the EU,what Germany says goes!

Really?

I do not think so

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 3:59 pm

No treaty change without agreement of Germany...

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:02 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No treaty change without agreement of Germany...

Wrong and again your link does not actually say they will reject treaty change, showing you did not even read it.

Mr Schauble said: 'The German government wants treaty change one day. We don't think it will happen tomorrow.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3078669/Blow-Cameron-Germany-REJECTS-demand-EU-treaty-change-Brussels-talks-election.html#ixzz3a7q0luO4
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by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 4:06 pm

They might want treaty change but that will be towards more EU power...

You really are a tit dodge.

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:08 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They might want treaty change but that will be towards more EU power...

You really are a tit dodge.

Oh dear back tracking

Razz

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 4:18 pm

How is that back tracking to say that Germany wants treaty change to give EU even more powers...!?

Not treaty change that gives UK greater powers back...

Can you see the difference dodge you tit...!?

lol!

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How is that back tracking to say that Germany wants treaty change to give EU even more powers...!?

Not treaty change that gives UK greater powers back...

Can you see the difference dodge you tit...!?

back tracking because as seen you do not even read your own links you muppet

PMSL

Razz

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:43 pm

Germany’s powerful finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, said he had discussed the British demands with Osborne and agreed that deeper integration of the single-currency zone would need to take account of countries such as Britain outside the euro.
“It wasn’t up to George Osborne and me to decide the reform of the European Union,” he said. “But we agreed to take this process forward.” He added that Cameron’s “impressive” election victory had supplied a chance for successful negotiations.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/12/george-osborne-britain-resolute-firm-eu-negotiations

twatti fucks up again

Razz

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 4:48 pm

There can be nothing of significance renegotiated.

We don't want free movement... it is a fundamental part of EU membership.

No negotiation possible... either accept continued open door to half a billion people or leave the EU... they are the choices.

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:50 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:There can be nothing of significance renegotiated.

We don't want free movement... it is a fundamental part of EU membership.

No negotiation possible... either accept continued open door to half a billion people or leave the EU... they are the choices.

And when Twatti fucks up, he ignore his fuckup and continues to offer drivel

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Laters dummy

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 4:51 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:There can be nothing of significance renegotiated.

We don't want free movement... it is a fundamental part of EU membership.

No negotiation possible... either accept continued open door to half a billion people or leave the EU... they are the choices.

Don't worry Tommy.

The Mediterranean is our greatest ally at the moment.

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 5:08 pm

How so shady...?

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 7:56 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How so shady...?

Well it acts as a natural barrier.

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 8:19 pm

But the EU is currently trying yo act as a bridge...

by Guest Thu May 14, 2015 8:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:But the EU is currently trying yo act as a bridge...

And in doing so,it is inviting more people to their deaths.

by Tommy Monk Thu May 14, 2015 8:29 pm

Then EU becomes a bigger bridge...

It looks to me that the more that try coming, the more the EU will be working towards collecting them and letting them in...

The EU is saying that just being a bit poor now is grounds for asylum and we have to start taking tens if not hundreds of thousands in ..

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