Did MI5 know about child abuse but fail to act?
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Did MI5 know about child abuse but fail to act?
A former army intelligence officer says he alerted MI5 to abuse at Kincora boys' home, but was told to stop digging. It is not the first time MI5 has been accused of covering up child abuse.
Channel 4 News brought Kincora victim Richard Kerr face to face with Brian Gemmell, who worked as an army intelligence officer in Belfast in the 1970s. Mr Gemmell said he put in an official report about Kincora to a senior MI5 officer, but to his astonishment he claims he was ordered to stop digging and forget about it.
Speaking to Mr Kerr, he said: "That's the thing that hits me - that if I really pushed the thing through in 75-76, you could have been rescued. I'm sorry." Channel 4 News has contacted MI5 via the Home Office and is awaiting a response to Mr Gemmell's claims.
Mr Gemmell said he believed what happened at Kincora decades ago should be brought within the scope of the over-arching, judge-led inquiry Home Secretary Theresa May set up "to consider the extent to which state and non-state institutions have failed in their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse and exploitation".
The inquiry was established following claims that children had been abused by politicians, public officials and celebrities over many decades. In July 2014, Mrs May indicated that it would be able to study files held by MI5.
Former Liberal MP Cyril Smith, who died in 2010, was said to have abused children during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. In 2012, the Crown Prosecution Service said he should have been charged, while Greater Manchester Police said although he could not be convicted posthumously, "from the overwhelming evidence we have, it is right and proper we should publicly recognise that young boys were sexually and physically abused".
His Labour successor alleges MI5 was involved in suppressing the allegations at the time. So what evidence is there that MI5 was involved in a cover-up, as alleged?
October 2012 - 'powerful paedophile network'
In the Commons, Labour MP Tom Watson called on the police to examine allegations of a "powerful paedophile network linked to parliament and Number 10". He did not name any individuals, but his comments sparked a wider examination about whether political figures were involved in abuse - and whether they used their connections to cover this up.
September 2013 - MI5 'held on to' Smith evidence
Channel 4 Dispatches reported that the security services had held on to evidence of Smith's abuse in Lancashire in the 1960s. Former Lancashire Special Branch detective Tony Robinson told Dispatches he was contacted by MI5, who requested he send them the file by special courier. Smith's Liberals propped up the Labour government in the late 1970s - the so-called Lib-Lab pact.
April 2014 - MI5 'put pressure on police'
Labour's Simon Danczuk, a successor to Smith as MP for Rochdale, published a book, Smile for the Camera: The Double Life of Cyril Smith, saying MI5 and Special Branch put pressure on the police to drop their investigation into Smith's activities. Mr Danczuk first raised the Smith case in the Commons in 2012 after alleged victims contacted him.
July 2014 - abuse inquiry will see MI5 files
Mrs May implied that the judge-led inquiry she set up into historic child abuse would be able to see MI5 files. In response to a question from Tom Watson, she said: "My intention is that the fullest possible access should be made to government papers in relation to these matters. Where there are files where there are certain issues around who can have access to those files we will need to ensure that we have an appropriate means of ensuring that the information is available to the inquiry panel."
November 2014 - MI5 searches files
The Wanless report into whether there had been a cover-up of the Home Office's handling of abuse allegations in the 1980s concluded that there was no evidence 114 missing official files had been "deliberately or systematically removed or destroyed to cover up organised child abuse".
At the request of the Wanless inquiry, MI5 carried out a search of its own files, but said it had not come across anything relevant to the review. Mrs May told MPs: "I cannot stand here and say the Home Office was not involved in a cover-up in the 1980s and that is why I am determined to get to the truth of this."
The inquiry was prompted by the hunt for a "dossier" handed to Leon Brittain in 1984, when he was home secretary, about alleged paedophile abuse in Westminster in the 1980s. Lord Brittan, who died in January, was himself accused of being involved in the abuse of children in the 1980s. He always strongly denied the allegations.
February 2015 - MI5 'knew about Kincora abuse'
Gary Hoy, who was abused at the Kincora children's home in Belfast in the 1970s, was granted permission to launch a legal challenge against the government's decision to exclude Kincora from its judge-led abuse inquiry.
He said MI5 knew about the abuse he and others suffered, but failed to do anything about it. The allegation is that by allowing the abuse to go on, the security services would be able to blackmail powerful paedophiles. In 1981, three members of staff at the home were jailed for sexually abusing 11 boys.
March 2015 - agent 'caught on camera'
BBC Newsnight said it had been told that a police operation into alleged abuse by Smith was scrapped shortly after he was arrested in the 1980s. According to an unnamed source, officers gathered evidence, including video footage, from a flat in south London. Smith was allegedly one of those caught on camera, along with a senior member of the intelligence agencies.
March 2015 - victims 'threatened' by MI5
Investigative journalist Don Hale told Channel 4 News he had given the police evidence from interviews he had carried out with Smith and Brittan.
He said some victims and whisteblowers who had approached him had been "threatened" by police officers and MI5, "who've warned them not to talk to me or any other journalist and warned also that they might lose their pensions and about the officials secrets act and this is happening even up to the last few weeks".
March 2015 - 'intimidated' by police
Speaking from the US, Kincora victim Richard Kerr, who says he was trafficked from Belfast to be abused in London, told Channel 4 News police had "intimidated" him because they did not want him to give evidence at the 1981 trial.
April 2015 - 'MI5 told about abuse'
Former army intelligence officer, Brian Gemmell, who worked in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, told Channel 4 News he put in an official report about Kincora to a senior MI5 officer, but to his astonishment he claims he was ordered to stop digging and forget about it. Speaking to Kincora victim Richard Kerr, he said: "That's the thing that hits me - that if I really pushed the thing through in 75-76, you could have been rescued. I'm sorry."
Mr Gemmell told Channel 4 News he believed what happened at Kincora decades ago should be brought within the scope of the major child abuse inquiry announced by Theresa May.
Asked why, he said: "I think two words - Richard Kerr. I think Richard's transporting over to the United Kingdom mainland to be abused, rather than just being abused in Northern Ireland, speaks volumes. It ties the two together." Asked if he believed claims that efforts were still being made to cover up what happened, he said: "I do."
http://www.channel4.com/news/mi5-kincora-richard-kerr-brian-gemmell-child-abuse
Channel 4 News brought Kincora victim Richard Kerr face to face with Brian Gemmell, who worked as an army intelligence officer in Belfast in the 1970s. Mr Gemmell said he put in an official report about Kincora to a senior MI5 officer, but to his astonishment he claims he was ordered to stop digging and forget about it.
Speaking to Mr Kerr, he said: "That's the thing that hits me - that if I really pushed the thing through in 75-76, you could have been rescued. I'm sorry." Channel 4 News has contacted MI5 via the Home Office and is awaiting a response to Mr Gemmell's claims.
Mr Gemmell said he believed what happened at Kincora decades ago should be brought within the scope of the over-arching, judge-led inquiry Home Secretary Theresa May set up "to consider the extent to which state and non-state institutions have failed in their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse and exploitation".
The inquiry was established following claims that children had been abused by politicians, public officials and celebrities over many decades. In July 2014, Mrs May indicated that it would be able to study files held by MI5.
Former Liberal MP Cyril Smith, who died in 2010, was said to have abused children during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. In 2012, the Crown Prosecution Service said he should have been charged, while Greater Manchester Police said although he could not be convicted posthumously, "from the overwhelming evidence we have, it is right and proper we should publicly recognise that young boys were sexually and physically abused".
His Labour successor alleges MI5 was involved in suppressing the allegations at the time. So what evidence is there that MI5 was involved in a cover-up, as alleged?
October 2012 - 'powerful paedophile network'
In the Commons, Labour MP Tom Watson called on the police to examine allegations of a "powerful paedophile network linked to parliament and Number 10". He did not name any individuals, but his comments sparked a wider examination about whether political figures were involved in abuse - and whether they used their connections to cover this up.
September 2013 - MI5 'held on to' Smith evidence
Channel 4 Dispatches reported that the security services had held on to evidence of Smith's abuse in Lancashire in the 1960s. Former Lancashire Special Branch detective Tony Robinson told Dispatches he was contacted by MI5, who requested he send them the file by special courier. Smith's Liberals propped up the Labour government in the late 1970s - the so-called Lib-Lab pact.
April 2014 - MI5 'put pressure on police'
Labour's Simon Danczuk, a successor to Smith as MP for Rochdale, published a book, Smile for the Camera: The Double Life of Cyril Smith, saying MI5 and Special Branch put pressure on the police to drop their investigation into Smith's activities. Mr Danczuk first raised the Smith case in the Commons in 2012 after alleged victims contacted him.
July 2014 - abuse inquiry will see MI5 files
Mrs May implied that the judge-led inquiry she set up into historic child abuse would be able to see MI5 files. In response to a question from Tom Watson, she said: "My intention is that the fullest possible access should be made to government papers in relation to these matters. Where there are files where there are certain issues around who can have access to those files we will need to ensure that we have an appropriate means of ensuring that the information is available to the inquiry panel."
November 2014 - MI5 searches files
The Wanless report into whether there had been a cover-up of the Home Office's handling of abuse allegations in the 1980s concluded that there was no evidence 114 missing official files had been "deliberately or systematically removed or destroyed to cover up organised child abuse".
At the request of the Wanless inquiry, MI5 carried out a search of its own files, but said it had not come across anything relevant to the review. Mrs May told MPs: "I cannot stand here and say the Home Office was not involved in a cover-up in the 1980s and that is why I am determined to get to the truth of this."
The inquiry was prompted by the hunt for a "dossier" handed to Leon Brittain in 1984, when he was home secretary, about alleged paedophile abuse in Westminster in the 1980s. Lord Brittan, who died in January, was himself accused of being involved in the abuse of children in the 1980s. He always strongly denied the allegations.
February 2015 - MI5 'knew about Kincora abuse'
Gary Hoy, who was abused at the Kincora children's home in Belfast in the 1970s, was granted permission to launch a legal challenge against the government's decision to exclude Kincora from its judge-led abuse inquiry.
He said MI5 knew about the abuse he and others suffered, but failed to do anything about it. The allegation is that by allowing the abuse to go on, the security services would be able to blackmail powerful paedophiles. In 1981, three members of staff at the home were jailed for sexually abusing 11 boys.
March 2015 - agent 'caught on camera'
BBC Newsnight said it had been told that a police operation into alleged abuse by Smith was scrapped shortly after he was arrested in the 1980s. According to an unnamed source, officers gathered evidence, including video footage, from a flat in south London. Smith was allegedly one of those caught on camera, along with a senior member of the intelligence agencies.
March 2015 - victims 'threatened' by MI5
Investigative journalist Don Hale told Channel 4 News he had given the police evidence from interviews he had carried out with Smith and Brittan.
He said some victims and whisteblowers who had approached him had been "threatened" by police officers and MI5, "who've warned them not to talk to me or any other journalist and warned also that they might lose their pensions and about the officials secrets act and this is happening even up to the last few weeks".
March 2015 - 'intimidated' by police
Speaking from the US, Kincora victim Richard Kerr, who says he was trafficked from Belfast to be abused in London, told Channel 4 News police had "intimidated" him because they did not want him to give evidence at the 1981 trial.
April 2015 - 'MI5 told about abuse'
Former army intelligence officer, Brian Gemmell, who worked in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, told Channel 4 News he put in an official report about Kincora to a senior MI5 officer, but to his astonishment he claims he was ordered to stop digging and forget about it. Speaking to Kincora victim Richard Kerr, he said: "That's the thing that hits me - that if I really pushed the thing through in 75-76, you could have been rescued. I'm sorry."
Mr Gemmell told Channel 4 News he believed what happened at Kincora decades ago should be brought within the scope of the major child abuse inquiry announced by Theresa May.
Asked why, he said: "I think two words - Richard Kerr. I think Richard's transporting over to the United Kingdom mainland to be abused, rather than just being abused in Northern Ireland, speaks volumes. It ties the two together." Asked if he believed claims that efforts were still being made to cover up what happened, he said: "I do."
http://www.channel4.com/news/mi5-kincora-richard-kerr-brian-gemmell-child-abuse
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Re: Did MI5 know about child abuse but fail to act?
How long can this go on before they have the Inquiry? Theresa May put it off and put it off and put it off, Cameron called it a conspiracy theory before he changed his mind and said it was a 'national threat' but still managed to avoid the Inquiry. But it will happen and they will get justice, because too many people now know the victims and what happened to them.
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It is so sickening knowing these hideous people responsible for such depraved acts are not being brought to justice, and in no way facing the possibility of losing their wage, job, home and worse STILL in the sort of positions where they can continue to abuse/kill how many more children.
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