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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:18 pm

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Matthew Taylor of the Social Integration Commission writes:

At a time of hardening attitudes to both disadvantaged people and immigrants, it is vital that politicians take levels of social integration – the extent to which people from different backgrounds meet and mix – seriously.

Research by the Social Integration Commission, which I chair, has shown that the average Briton has on average about half as many interactions with people from different age groups, classes and ethnicities as would occur if their social networks were randomly drawn from the local population. This problem affects all sections of our society – white people are as likely to have unrepresentative networks as people belonging to other ethnicities, whilst highly diverse areas are not necessarily integrated. Indeed, Londoners’ networks are amongst the furthest away from reflecting the makeup of the communities in which they live. Our research also revealed that the most extreme form of segregation in modern Britain doesn’t relate to a lack of interaction between different ethnic groups, but rather between the rich and poor.

Social segregation is curtailing our ability to solve key economic and social challenges. Around 40 per cent of jobs in the UK are found through personal contacts. As a result, when it comes to recruiting new staff, informal networks shaped according to ethnicity, age and income background limit the talent pool available to employers. Low levels of integration additionally increase anxiety and fear of the unknown, leading to greater ill-health and isolation in later life. The Commission estimates that a lack of integration costs our economy £6 billion, or approximately 0.5 per cent of GDP, each year.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/social-segregation-rising-whats-be-done-about-it
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:03 pm

darknessss wrote:linky???

Find it yourself you lazy fuck, I have posted it countless times on here to prove you wrong.

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:11 pm

erm...no...I aint wasteing ages "back tracking" through countless pages....

but in any case the point is still valid...where do we say enough is enough??


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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:13 pm

You have little in the arsenal of valid points on many things as they are backed with negativity, pessimism etc, not values I would wish on anyone.
If you want the study, find it and disprove it with evidence and stop wasting my time with inane drivel.

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:27 pm

so more dodging

what about

"where do we call a halt then" (since in reality the ACTUAL starting figure is highly irrelevant)

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:33 pm

darknessss wrote:so more dodging

what about

"where do we call a halt then" (since in reality the ACTUAL starting figure is highly irrelevant)

Is numbers what it is really about Victor, when you do not even care for townies?
Come one stop flogging a dead horse, you have no counter here, you do not even want people in this land to move around and settle, you wrongly think you own the entire land to yourself.
Immigration debates are born from racism.
It is a fact, as what does anyone really have to fear about it when it has gone on successfully for centuries?

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:41 pm

Brasidas wrote:
darknessss wrote:so more dodging

what about

"where do we call a halt then" (since in reality the ACTUAL starting figure is highly irrelevant)

Is numbers what it is really about Victor, when you do not even care for townies?

well why would I ...when they come to live in the country and want to despoil it, change it away from what it is and expect the rural community to accomodate THEM rather that them ACCEPTING what it is....

kinda the same argument with immigrants but a bit lower key...




Come one stop flogging a dead horse, you have no counter here, you do not even want people in this land to move around and settle, you wrongly think you own the entire land to yourself.
Immigration debates are born from racism.
It is a fact, as what does anyone really have to fear about it when it has gone on successfully for centuries?

agreed, BUT not at the incredible rate it is now doing....THATS the main point...

but dont answer the point then didge if you dont actually have an answer....

where do we call a halt??




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Post by veya_victaous Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:59 pm

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:55 am

Brasidas wrote:
eddie wrote:
Brasidas wrote:Sorry but that is pure bollocks to say people are incompatiable. They only chose to be, it is down to people either wanting to get along or they do not. If people can get along there is no reason for them not to get along and is nothing short of being ignorant not wanting to. You will never be in a minority in this country and to evevn argue off something so absurd is again to view other people as bad based off their ethnicity. We are all human at the end of the day and again people identify behind bei8ng British not bloody skin colour. Your views are where racial problems start because they are formed from negativity.
I would never need to make a decision based off how many people of one ethnicity lived in a town, that thought process would never cross my mind because it is utterly ignorant to even think on those lines.

You have made a point many times about people not integrating.

So we will leave it there as there's no real point in debating with somone who changes their mind about what they think.


I am making the point there is no reason for people not to integrate, so do not try poorly to make claims I have not made, Eddie, when you have utterly no point here.
Sorry but if your view in life is to view others as alien to yourself based on basically skin colour then you do have negative racial views of others.
So if you want to bow out because you have no valid point, be my guest.

I think you have to accept some responsibility Didge for why some people are concerned about immigration. You were banging on about it having created an increase in racial tensions in this country and a rise of xenophobic views so it's a bit much to have a go at eddie when you had concerns about that yourself.

Here's where you were going on about it...

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7680-ukip-magazine-brands-gay-pride-march-parade-of-depravity#160790

You were of course previously saying that anyone can come here and that a points based system to control it was discriminatory and there was stacks of room for more because we need more. Immigrants had a huge positive impact on this country - you said that as well.

So?


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Post by Guest Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:10 am

Irn Bru wrote:
Brasidas wrote:

I am making the point there is no reason for people not to integrate, so do not try poorly to make claims I have not made, Eddie, when you have utterly no point here.
Sorry but if your view in life is to view others as alien to yourself based on basically skin colour then you do have negative racial views of others.
So if you want to bow out because you have no valid point, be my guest.

I think you have to accept some responsibility Didge for why some people are concerned about immigration. You were banging on about it having created an increase in racial tensions in this country and a rise of xenophobic views so it's a bit much to have a go at eddie when you had concerns about that yourself.

Here's where you were going on about it...

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7680-ukip-magazine-brands-gay-pride-march-parade-of-depravity#160790

You were of course previously saying that anyone can come here and that a points based system to control it was discriminatory and there was stacks of room for more because we need more. Immigrants had a huge positive impact on this country - you said that as well.

So?



Seriously are you that utterly stupid?
I am making a point on there is no reason why peoploe cannot integrate.
There is no reason.
I can however understand where such resentment has built up as it did under Labour where they had a very poor immigration policy that was too fast and too high. Integration does take time, of that there is no denying and hence why you confuse the factors here.
So No, I do not have to take any responsibilty
There is stacks of room in this country and I stand by that, which has nothing to do with what has created resentment in this country.,
You see a responsible person recognises where the problems begin and one of them is with Labour under its immigration policies.
So that really is you scraping the bottom, of the barrel again.

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