FOR DIDGE

ok, so back when...there was a thread that involved you reconing its ok for the govt to have ALL kinds of info on you. That its perfectly alright and that they never lose/misplace/misuse such data


from:- http://news.sky.com/story/1417450/death-threats-after-files-published-online


By Afua Hirsh, Social Affairs Editor

Survivors of child sex abuse have received death threats after their personal details and confidential communications with an abuse inquiry were published online.

Members of the group have written to the Home Secretary expressing "grave concern" about the publication of documents they say were leaked by a member of an abuse inquiry panel.
Keith Vaz MP

Committee Chairman Keith Vaz is apologising to members of the group

The Home Affairs Select Committee - the panel of MPs tasked with scrutinising the creation of an inquiry into historical child sex abuse allegations, and chaired by Keith Vaz - then published the documents on its website, it was claimed.

The group says that names and contact details of panel members have since been redacted from the site.

Sky sources claim Home Secretary Theresa May has written to Mr Vaz describing her "dismay" at the Committee's publishing of the documents. The source added Mr Vaz was now in the process of apologising to 18 members of the group.

One abuse survivor and his young daughter were approached by a convicted abuser after their details were published, it was claimed.

In a collective statement to the Home Secretary the group said: "It has exposed us as individuals, making us feel vulnerable, and is having a huge impact on our work."

The news is likely to raise questions about the conduct of Vaz, who earlier this week stated his intention to publish documents widely as a measure of "transparency".

The documents also revealed the confidential details of a medical condition suffered by one survivor."


Now I would say that ONE incident invalidates the WHOLE issue...It PROVES beyond all shadow of doubt that the govt should NOT be allowed access to such info.....

And AGAIN

Information relating to three judge-led inquiries, including two fatal police shootings, has gone missing in the post.


The Ministry of Justice has revealed that two discs containing documents about the Mark Duggan, Azelle Rodney and Robert Hamill inquiries have been lost since January.

Police officers involved in the inquiries have been warned their information could leak as a result of the loss.

The identity of the police marksman who killed Mr Duggan in Tottenham in 2011, sparking a series of riots, has never been made public.

A statement from the MoJ said: "Government officials became aware on 8 January that two discs containing documents relating to these inquiries were missing, having been dispatched by post.

"Immediate steps were taken, including intensive searches to locate the discs. These searches continue, with police assistance. The discs have not, as yet, been found."

"At this stage there is no evidence to indicate that the information loss arose from malicious intent. Nevertheless, it is essential to take the most precautionary view and to take all necessary steps to safeguard the interests of anyone whose information could be disclosed.

"Police and other agencies have undertaken their own risk assessment, and have identified and taken any steps necessary to ensure the protection of officers."

Lawyers are reviewing the missing documents to discover if they hold confidential or sensitive details.

The MoJ has also launched an investigation.

Its statement added: "The Rodney, Hamill and Duggan families and the three judges who conducted the inquiries and inquest have been informed. So too has the Information Commissioner's Office."

And beyond that it requires them to store and categorise all the data, and there is not a snowballs chance in hell that will have appropriate security in place after making a 'honey-pot' for anyone wishing to commit fraud and identity theft.

Who will Guard the Guards? not didge looks like it is me and you vic

I believe personally that there is a point, in terms of volume, beyond which, it is impossible to secure data effectively.

An individual or small company with only a few machines and likely only ONE or two data storage units (drives) and only a couple of operators can remain "relatively secure"

like MY customer base and other "sensitive info" is on a seperate non networked computer under lock and key (and if you try to nick the drive or access it illegitimately it WILL irrecoverably self destruct. It has been ummmmm.....modified...a bit ) but once you get to large organisations with umpteen terrabyte storage and the sheer amount of info that conceivably could/would be/ is being collated then it becomes as porous as a sponge.....

darknessss wrote:ok, so back when...there was a thread that involved you reconing its ok for the govt to have ALL kinds of info on you. That its perfectly alright and that they never lose/misplace/misuse such data


from:- http://news.sky.com/story/1417450/death-threats-after-files-published-online


By Afua Hirsh, Social Affairs Editor

Survivors of child sex abuse have received death threats after their personal details and confidential communications with an abuse inquiry were published online.

Members of the group have written to the Home Secretary expressing "grave concern" about the publication of documents they say were leaked by a member of an abuse inquiry panel.
Keith Vaz MP

Committee Chairman Keith Vaz is apologising to members of the group

The Home Affairs Select Committee - the panel of MPs tasked with scrutinising the creation of an inquiry into historical child sex abuse allegations, and chaired by Keith Vaz - then published the documents on its website, it was claimed.

The group says that names and contact details of panel members have since been redacted from the site.

Sky sources claim Home Secretary Theresa May has written to Mr Vaz describing her "dismay" at the Committee's publishing of the documents. The source added Mr Vaz was now in the process of apologising to 18 members of the group.

One abuse survivor and his young daughter were approached by a convicted abuser after their details were published, it was claimed.

In a collective statement to the Home Secretary the group said: "It has exposed us as individuals, making us feel vulnerable, and is having a huge impact on our work."

The news is likely to raise questions about the conduct of Vaz, who earlier this week stated his intention to publish documents widely as a measure of "transparency".

The documents also revealed the confidential details of a medical condition suffered by one survivor."


Now I would say that ONE incident invalidates the WHOLE issue...It PROVES beyond all shadow of doubt that the govt should NOT be allowed access to such info.....

Human error, of which I do not doubt, but you are talking about extreme examples and in this case, they should all get the sack. The government will need access to details. I get your point and things like this are a mare, but how is the government ever going to investigate crimes as highlighted here without access.
Vaz should resign over this I have to say, what an idiot.
Still not going to change my opinion though Vic

Night

darknessss wrote:I believe personally that there is a point, in terms of volume, beyond which, it is impossible to secure data effectively.

An individual or small company with only a few machines and likely only ONE or two data storage units (drives) and only a couple of operators can remain "relatively secure"

like MY customer base and other "sensitive info"  is on a seperate non networked computer under lock and key (and if you try to nick the drive or access it illegitimately it WILL irrecoverably self destruct. It has been ummmmm.....modified...a bit ) but once you get to large organisations with umpteen terrabyte storage and the sheer amount of info that conceivably could/would be/ is being collated then it becomes as porous as a sponge.....

Most definitely, and even the perfect defence system worth millions in investment and maintenance can be reduced to worthless by one disgruntled technician giving admin passwords to the 'wrong' people.