Australia foils Islamic State terror plot to commit Lee Rigby-style murders

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Others groups oppose the new laws, claiming fears or a terror attack are being used to justify legislative overreach from our lawmakers. Liberal Democrat Senator David Leyonhjelm said he won’t support moves to give greater power to ASIO as it could encroach on Australian’s civil liberties.

“Taken as a whole it could well be described as contrary to the rule of law and detrimental to our liberties,” he said.

Australian Lawyers Alliance spokesman Greg Barns also is against greater powers for ASIO, saying: “Both major parties are using terror fears to allow ASIO to harass and rough up individuals, spy on our neighbours, and other associated activities without the media being able to ensure Australians know about such abuses of power.”

The forum on Australia’s Islamic Relations spokesman Kuranda Seyit said freedoms were being sacrificed in the name of security.

“I am very worried that we are allowing the terrorists to gain the upper hand. This is what they want,” he said.

“They want Australia to become a police state with very few human rights and freedoms.”

If the Gov't cant respect OUR laws they should be charged as Terrorists too!!!!

First of all you do not even understand the definition of terrorism and you are losing no freedoms, again point out what freedom you have lost? THE FREEDOM TO NOT BE IMPRISONED WITHOUT CHARGE, THE RIGHT TO A LAWYER, THE RIGHT TO A LEGAL SYSTEM WITH ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT TO PREVENT ABUSE OF POWER!!!!
You have lost no freedoms, you would only lose temporary freedom based upon a suspicion of a crime, which anyone does if they are suspected of a crime.

I do not hate freedom, (THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP ARGUING AGAINST IT?) I go by what is best for a nation (NO YOU ARE NOT!! AS POSTED MOST OF THE EXPERTS DISAGREE AND BELIEVE THIS IS TERRIBLE LEGISLATION AS IT IS A RUSH JOB AND WAY TOO BROAD) where you are so clueless you failed to see how to counter and deal with danger (AGAIN WHAT ACTUAL DANGER? LESS THAN SHARKS, SO I DON'T SUPPORT GREATER MEASURES AGAINST SHARKS, SO WHY WOULD I SUPPORT GREATER MEASURES AGAINST SOMETHING THAT IS LESS OF A THREAT?) , you seemed to constantly live in some fantasy world and not the reality as Victor has pointed out.
So basically your racist view on Britain's, which is racist because now you are claiming there is such a thing as races, of which biologically there is not, which is even more daft being the view my Mother is Irish and my late father Sicilian, showing how even more stupid you really are. No one nationality is genetically pre-disposed to hate (the Englishmen thing is a joke, you know cause you're racist Telling Zack you know what he thinks because he is a Muslim         .. I know it is YOU PERSONALLY that HATES freedom and wants to submit to ISIS and do exactly what they want you freedom hating terrorist loving COWARD), which is the same absurd argument used upon blacks with criminality. AND EXACTLY what YOU JUST SAID TO ZACK ABOUT Muslims RETARD

You really are one clueless cardboard cutout to be honest.
LOLZ `the is the most ridiculous insult to use against me. YOU are a cardboard cut out of an educated fool that takes everything they are told at face value cannot actually empathise with the position of others or consider other perspectives.. you are also the typical Atheist So sure of your self you may as well be following a religion because SCIENTISTS far smarter than you or me still pose questions.. is the bible true? NO does that mean there is nothing Probably not....
How did LIFE start and what is the difference between a a single cell organism and speck of dust with the same chemical composition? are still some of questions science has no answer to.

Australia's firesale on internet privacy, journalists and whistleblowers

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it...even if that past was five fucking minutes ago.

You know that past, the gross breaches of privacy by the NSA, global erosion of independent journalism and continued punishment of whistleblowers that have happened recently. That sort of stuff.

Because if you knew of those recent events, you would know it is maybe not the best idea to give ASIO a blank cheque for surveillance, including:

* The power to monitor entire networks based on one warrant (ps the internet? It's a network - this means the entire Australian internet could be monitored with just one warrant)
* Offer people no form of legal redress or protection
* Prevent writing on national security matters and offer no exemptions making journalists, whistleblowers or basically anyone exposed.

Attorney-General George "Bigot" Brandis describes the legislation as "urgent" and almost all senators have agreed with him except for Scott Ludlum and David Leyonhjelm.

This is a massive reduction in rights and exposure to unprecedented levels of surveillance and threat...from a government that doesn't want to debate it and an opposition that won't oppose it. This is also what happens when you rush legislation in a state of fear - the fear of a terrorist attack.

Will these new powers help us prevent terrorist attacks? According to the US experience, probably not. One study suggests the NSA's expanded powers in the US only resulted in 4 potential investigations out of 225 cases. What worked? Talking face to face with informants, families, communities other agencies work - so, basically, what they do now.

Didge wrote:Fuck me you really are one fucked up unhinged loony, to now claim it is racist to question religious views, where I made no reference to race and ethnicity. NO it is racist to tell someone you're 100% certain what they Believe because of their religion DICKHEAD
You are a twat of the highest order to say that
The point on sharks is moot because we use preventative measures against them also WE ALREADY HAVE PREVENTATIVE AGAINST TERRORIST YOU MAKE IS SOUND LIKE WE HAVE NOTHING WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE BODY SCANNER AND ALL SORT OF LAWS THAT HAVE SO FAR PROVED SUFFICIENT TO PREVENT ALL DEATHS FROM TERRORISTS IN AUSTRALIA. IN FACT WE HAVE FAR MORE PREVENTIVES AGAINST TERRORIST THAT SHARKS AND SHARKS HAVE KILL MORE PEOPLE!!! , what you are so ignorant on is based upon the fact if something is a threat, where clearly unhinged loons like Isis and yourself are a threat to society COWARDS LIKE YOU SELF THAT CLEARLY CANNOT THINK OR COUNT ARE A GREATER THREAT.

It is also illogical to claim I love terrorism, NO, YOU ARE SAYING DO EXACTLY WHAT ISIS WANT LIVE IN FEAR AND LET YOU RIGHTS BE TRAMPLED EXACTLY AS ISIS WANT when I stand against terrorism,YOU ARE AN EXTREMIST YOU EXTREMELY HATE FREEDOM you are basically a terrorist that believe everyone must live in fearfrom extremists Oh you qualify it so you call with Gov't terrorism , being as I back measures against them NO YOU BLINDLY FOLLOW A GOV'T PROMOTION IN THE FACE OF VERY RESPECTED TERROR EXPERTS SAYING THE EXACT OPPOSITE, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT READ BEYOND THE HEAD LINEand clearly you need to get some professional help because you are one batty lunatic, which thankfully most people just are glad you are just an ignorant child shrieking behind your PC.

Suggest you run along child
LOL don't Like the fact I showed you a mirror hey          
Bye

Nathan and Annie Forck were travelling to Disney World with their three children for a family vacation. The couple’s three-year-old daughter Lucy has Spina bifida and is confined to a wheelchair.

The family had no problems passing through the TSA security checkpoint, but an agent stopped them on their way to the gate, saying that Lucy needed to go through an additional screening process. When the Forcks questioned the TSA agent, he said that they needed to pat down Lucy and swab her wheelchair.

“They specifically told me that they were singling her out for this special treatment because she’s in a wheelchair,” Nathan Forck told Fox News. “They are specifically singling out disabled people for this special scrutiny. It’s rather offensive to me as a father of a disabled child.”

When the agent confiscated the three-year-old’s stuffed animal, a fluffy sheep named “Lamby,” Annie Forck whipped out her phone and began filming a video of the exchange.

“You can’t touch my daughter unless I record it,” Annie Forck can be heard saying.

“It’s illegal to do that,” the agent replied.  (IT IS NOT ILLEGAL JUST ANOTHER CASE OF AUTHORITIES BEING LYING PIECES OF SHIT)

“The problem is, I don’t allow anyone to touch my little daughter,” Annie Forck countered. When she refused to turn off her phone, a group of TSA agents were called over to surround the family and “guard” the increasingly distraught Lucy.