Turkish Prime Minister tells female journalist: 'Know your place, you shameless militant'

Turkey’s Prime Minister has called a prominent female journalist a “shameless militant woman” who should “know her place”.  Recep Tayyip Erdogan lashed out at Amberin Zaman, the Turkish correspondent for The Economist, on Thursday while speaking at an election campaign rally.

Remarks she had made while interviewing the opposition leader, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, on television the previous day had been condemned as “insulting to Islam and Muslims” by pro-Government supporters on social media.

She had asked Mr Kılıçdaroğlu whether a “Muslim society is able to question” the authorities.

Mr Erdogan was speaking to a crowd of supporters in Malatya, southern Turkey, when he made the comments reported by Today’s Zaman.  He called Ms Zaman a "shameless militant woman disguised under the name of a journalist".

"Know your place," Erdoğan added. "They gave you a pen and you are writing a column in a newspaper. And then they invite you to a TV channel owned by Doğan media group and you insult at a society of 99 per cent Muslims."

Doğan Holding is one of Turkey’s largest conglomerates and Mr Erdogan is in a long-standing feud with its proprietor, Aydin Dogan.

The Prime Minister has denounced “made-up news” about Government corruption in the group’s papers, while Mr Dogan claims a huge fine over alleged tax irregularities against his firm was politically motivated.

"Mr Erodgan came to power using democracy. He is a product of democracy, but he can accept democracy only for himself," he told the Wall Street Journal. "He cannot accept side components of democracy such as free media."

The Economist defended Ms Zaman, who has been the magazine’s Turkish correspondent for 15 years, in a statement on Thursday. Calling her “widely respected”, it said the publication stood firmly by her and her reporting.  “The intimidation of journalists has no place in a democracy,” it added. Under Mr Erdogan, Turkey has become an increasingly difficult place for independent journalism.  Freedom House, a New York based media watchdog, recently downgraded the country from ‘partially free’ to ‘not free’.”

As well as a crackdown on journalists and investigative reporting, campaigners in Turkey are concerned about a regression with women’s rights.

The Deputy Prime Minister, Bülent Arınç said women “should not laugh in public” in a speech on “moral corruption” last month.

Turkey also came under international criticism for attempts to block Twitter and YouTube earlier this year.

There have been waves of anti-government protests in Taksim Square in Istanbul and a teenage boy died earlier this year after being hit in the head with a tear gas canister fired by riot police.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/know-your-place-you-shameless-militant-turkish-prime-minister-tells-female-journalist-9656896.html

"Know her place" and campaigners are worried about a regression of women's rights, I'm not surprised.  What chance do they have with this guy in charge?!

Bit like David Cameron telling a female MP to 'calm down dear' and asking her if she was frustrated.

Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Turkish women tell the government what they think and how they won't behave:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/turkish-women-defiantly-laugh-official-lol/story?id=24779386

Women shouldn't laugh out loud?! As I said, total subjugation of women is the Muslim way. Nothing less will do. I hope these women dont get punished for their bravery.

Guess you didn't read.  



Arinc's comment has also given his political opponents ammunition. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish politician who is running for presidency against Arinc’s boss, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, blasted Arinc’s statement via Twitter, saying that Turkey needed women to laugh, as well as to hear everybody’s happy laughter.


He's just a misogynist, like any other.

Sassy wrote:Guess you didn't read.  



Arinc's comment has also given his political opponents ammunition. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish politician who is running for presidency against Arinc’s boss, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, blasted Arinc’s statement via Twitter, saying that Turkey needed women to laugh, as well as to hear everybody’s happy laughter.


He's just a misogynist, like any other.

He is not a misogynist! He is being true to his beliefs which is that women should know their place! Same as all the other Muslims like the Taliban etc who deny education to women and promote violence against women aren't misogynist, just following what they believe God wants. The Turkish prime minister got elected for his views remember that!

Your racism to the fore again. The fact that you can even equate the Taliban with Turkey shows that.

Sassy wrote:Your racism to the fore again.   The fact that you can even equate the Taliban with Turkey shows that.

So Im racist too now?!
Am I only racist today or am I mentally unstable and racist?
Two stereotypes for the price of one as it were?!

The real struggle in Turkey is between conservative right and secular left.



Çarçamba is a working-class, religious, very conservative neighbourhood in Istanbul's Fatih district, its high street dotted with small family restaurants and shops selling conservative clothing and religious books.

At the beginning of July, Çarçamba made the news with a peculiar case of vandalism: somebody had spray-painted black the Photoshopped figure of Brazilian model Adriana Lima advertising a global hair removal brand. "Don't be immoral!" demanded the clumsy graffiti next it.

Opposition and leftist media picked up on the incident and, this being Çarçamba, immediately defined the attack as an Islamist one: "They dressed Adriana Lima in a carshaf", they said, referring to the black full body cover worn by religiously conservative women. Commentators argued that it was a worrying sign of creeping Islamisation, an organised attack on liberal, modern Turkey.

However, Aytekin Aydogan, 38, owner of a textile shop just around the corner from the now-replaced advertisement in question, said: "It was wrong to spray paint that picture. Our religious teachers tell us not to interfere with anyone else's lifestyle. It's a question of tolerance, open-mindedness, of education."

His assistant for the summer, a 16-year-old who wears both the headscarf and an ankle-long overcoat over her skinny jeans, shrugged. "We all know that it was the old man sitting by the bus station all day. He always yells at women to cover up, and he taps my legs with his walking stick when I walk by wearing trousers.

"But nobody really takes him seriously. Why should he have the right to tell me what to do?"

Does she think that the rift between women who cover and those who do not has widened? "No, I don't feel that way. I can go anywhere in Istanbul, and I do. I am comfortable in Fatih and in [the bar district] Beyoglu."

Aydogan agreed. "In my opinion the mood has even softened. People are more tolerant now when it comes to clothing. There used to be more tension between conservative and secular Turks because of the headscarf. Of course there are still those who insult women who don't cover their heads, and those who call covered women 'stick-in-the muds'."

Deniz Nasiroglu, 40, manager of a clothes shop for conservative women, often comes to Çarçamba for business reasons. She was more critical of the advertisement. "Why do you need the body of a scantily clad woman to sell leg wax anyway?" she laughed. "We all know what the wax is for and how to use it. Displaying a woman's figure is unnecessary. Surely a leg or an arm would have sufficed." And she added, smiling: "Wouldn't feminists think so, too?"

These are interesting times to be a woman in Istanbul. When deputy prime minister Bülent Arinç lectured women to refrain from laughing in public in an Eid al-Fitr address last week, women and men took to social media in protest.

Much of the remainder of Arinç's speech, however, in which he criticised "moral degeneration" in Turkey, reminding women to be "chaste", was no laughing matter.

The headscarf has been politicised ever since it was banned by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the Turkish Republic, and it still is now. Under the government of the religiously conservative Justice and Development party (AKP) the ban on wearing the headscarf in universities and public offices in recent years has been lifted. Prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan often patronisingly refers to women covering their hair as "my little headscarved sisters", while more Kemalist-minded Turks voice their fear about the new proliferation of conservative dress in areas they used to consider their domain: universities, parliament, fashion.

Social psychologist Yasemin Acar said: "There has always been a divide between people that consider themselves secular and those who consider themselves religiously conservative. The polarisation between the two is not new, and it is not helpful when it comes to the question of women's rights."

Women's rights activist Selime Büyükgöze of the Socialist Feminist Collective agreed: "The AKP government bases its politics on the division of all social opposition. They pretend to care for women wearing headscarves, but we know that they don't treat them any better. While the headscarf underlines differences between women, they also share many issues: All women suffer male violence – the headscarf, faith, education or social class do not provide an escape from that. Every woman risks to be killed. Every woman needs the right to abortion. Every woman may experience sexual abuse and rape – at home, in the street or at work."

Reported violence against women in Turkey has risen 14-fold since 2002. Last Thursday a Turkish court ruled that a woman who was attacked and wounded with a knife by her ex-husband had "provoked" him by wearing leggings, therefore providing "mitigating circumstances".

The government of Erdogan, who said in 2010 that he did not believe in equality between men and women, has done very little to tackle these issues. Instead, AKP politicians have repeatedly used misogyny to polarise and rally a conservative base around topics as various as abortion, gender-segregated schools and university dorms, kissing in public, rape, women working or the number of children women should have.

"Misogyny and patriarchy are nothing new in Turkey," said Acar. "It's not something that has come about with the AKP – but the AKP brings it up in a much more open manner than before. It's much more politicised."

Büyükgöze warned: "For Bülent Arinç, women mean family, women mean mothers, women mean housewives. Because politicians like him don't accept any other option, they don't refrain from such attacks. His words feed into the conservative vein in Turkey. It normalises the control over women and prepares the ground for violence against women and the murder of women."

Shafak Pavey, an Istanbul MP for the main opposition Republican People's party, who has been called "immoral" for questioning the prime minister's demand for gender-segregated dorms in parliament and who was previously criticised by an AKP MP for "smiling too much", agreed: "As a cultural and political leader, the things Bülent Arinç says have enormous effect on the street. The messages he sends enable further crimes against women."

While women and girls wearing headscarves also protested, posting pictures on social media of themselves laughing, others used pictures of laughing women in headscarves to attack the government, accusing them of hypocrisy. For Özgür Kazim Kivanç of the Anti-Capitalist Muslims, this is a trap. "We should all stand together against a male-dominated view of women, and men in power assigning certain roles to certain women, but instead we use their language to attack each other," he said.

Acar agreed: "The big question is: where do we go from here? The problem with Kemalist nostalgia is that it wants to go back to an old Turkey assuming that it was good – when it really wasn't. The question has to be how to move forward and make things better for all women, and everyone."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/02/turkey-women-absurd-debate-female-laughter-new-deal

Yay C&P
read the rules

Nems wrote:

Sassy wrote:Guess you didn't read.  



Arinc's comment has also given his political opponents ammunition. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish politician who is running for presidency against Arinc’s boss, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, blasted Arinc’s statement via Twitter, saying that Turkey needed women to laugh, as well as to hear everybody’s happy laughter.


He's just a misogynist, like any other.

He is not a misogynist! He is being true to his beliefs which is that women should know their place! Same as all the other Muslims like the Taliban etc who deny education to women and promote violence against women aren't misogynist, just following what they believe God wants. The Turkish prime minister got elected for his views remember that!

Lol! Come say that to the Muslim women I know. I'll sit back and watch what happens to you.

Your last sentence is not ignorant but just plain stupid. I doubt the UK votary agree with everything David Cameron believes. D'UH!

Nems wrote:Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Nems wrote:Yay C&P
read the rules

You are getting mixed up with Flophouse rules. Ben likes information, reading lots of information from lots of sources is the way you learn and broaden your knowledge. We can see you don't do that.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Nems wrote:

He is not a misogynist! He is being true to his beliefs which is that women should know their place! Same as all the other Muslims like the Taliban etc who deny education to women and promote violence against women aren't misogynist, just following what they believe God wants. The Turkish prime minister got elected for his views remember that!

Lol! Come say that to the Muslim women I know. I'll sit back and watch what happens to you.

Your last sentence is not ignorant but just plain stupid. I doubt the UK votary agree with everything David Cameron believes. D'UH!

And yet...Lo, it's happening in a Muslim country.  

Game, set and match, Nems

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Nems wrote:Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Sassy wrote:Your racism to the fore again.   The fact that you can even equate the Taliban with Turkey shows that.

Turkey is fast losing its status as the only truly liberal Muslim country - http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/emre-uslu_346575_support-for-radical-islamism-on-the-rise-in-turkey.html

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Nems wrote:

He is not a misogynist! He is being true to his beliefs which is that women should know their place! Same as all the other Muslims like the Taliban etc who deny education to women and promote violence against women aren't misogynist, just following what they believe God wants. The Turkish prime minister got elected for his views remember that!

Lol! Come say that to the Muslim women I know. I'll sit back and watch what happens to you.

Your last sentence is not ignorant but just plain stupid. I doubt the UK votary agree with everything David Cameron believes. D'UH!

Very violent are they?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2686684/The-jihad-sisters-Bubbly-exceptionally-bright-twins-28-GCSEs-set-train-doctors-Now-theyre-Syria-training-killers.html#comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F3PWtNjxUs

Shady wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Got it in one. We are nothing but kuffar pigs to people like Zack.

 

NOTE where after their Deputy Dawg's edict that goodly Turkish wimmin' folk "shouldn't laugh out loud" in public, over this last week Turkish women have been plastering photo's of themselves laughing at the Turkish deputy PM across Facebook and Twitter ?

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Nems wrote:Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Charm school was worth every penny I see

Sassy wrote:

Nems wrote:Yay C&P
read the rules

You are getting mixed up with Flophouse rules.   Ben likes information, reading lots of information from lots of sources is the way you learn and broaden your knowledge.   We can see you don't do that.

Ben likes information? You speaking for him again?

Who is the we you refer to? Your imaginary friend back?

Shady wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

I couldn't have wished for a better illustration of my point could I?

Nems wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Charm school was worth every penny I see

He learns it from his holy book -

8:55 wrote:Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe

Nems wrote:

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

I couldn't have wished for a better illustration of my point could I?

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

Shady wrote:

Nems wrote:

I couldn't have wished for a better illustration of my point could I?

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

And she is right Shady x

Nems wrote:

Shady wrote:

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

And she is right Shady x

Are you prepared for the storm that's coming our way?......Bertha?

Shady wrote:

Nems wrote:

And she is right Shady x

Are you prepared for the storm that's coming our way?......Bertha?

This is Liverpool Shady its always wet and windy!
Havent seen the weather, is it going to be bad?

Nems wrote:

Shady wrote:

Are you prepared for the storm that's coming our way?......Bertha?

This is Liverpool Shady its always wet and windy!
Havent seen the weather, is it going to be bad?

Well they reckon that the remnants of hurricaine Bertha 'may' sweep over Britain tonight.But for once,the weather forecasters are being honest by saying that they don't know for sure which path the storm will take.

They've hinted that it may go south & hit France instead of us.

Shady wrote:

Nems wrote:

This is Liverpool Shady its always wet and windy!
Havent seen the weather, is it going to be bad?

Well they reckon that the remnants of hurricaine Bertha 'may' sweep over Britain tonight.But for once,the weather forecasters are being honest by saying that they don't know for sure which path the storm will take.

They've hinted that it may go south & hit France instead of us.

Mmm just had a look we have got a severe weather warning out for Merseyside

Nems wrote:

Shady wrote:

Well they reckon that the remnants of hurricaine Bertha 'may' sweep over Britain tonight.But for once,the weather forecasters are being honest by saying that they don't know for sure which path the storm will take.

They've hinted that it may go south & hit France instead of us.

Mmm just had a look we have got a severe weather warning out for Merseyside

I think we have as well & it's been raining for about an hour now....And the wind is picking up.

Shady wrote:

Nems wrote:

Mmm just had a look we have got a severe weather warning out for Merseyside

I think we have as well & it's been raining for about an hour now....And the wind is picking up.

Just noticed the wind is getting up here now

Shady wrote:

Nems wrote:

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

I couldn't have wished for a better illustration of my point could I?

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

Is there a "Muslim gene"?

Fucking idiots ...

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Shady wrote:

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

Is there a "Muslim gene"?

Fucking idiots ...

Well it seems there is.It's the one that causes them to inflict unbelievable cruelty & violence.

I guess you are unaware of the events of September 11th 2001 in your country.

And you call us fucking idiots?

Shady wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Shady wrote:

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

Is there a "Muslim gene"?

Fucking idiots ...

Well it seems there is.It's the one that causes them to inflict unbelievable cruelty & violence.

I guess you are unaware of the events of September 11th 2001 in your country.

And you call us fucking idiots?

I also know about all sorts of violent acts carried out in the name of Jesus. Yet I refuse to believe those people carried a common gene which made them predisposed to killing in the name of Jesus.

You fucking idiot.

Nems wrote:Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Cameron doesn't speak for the men in this country and the Turkish prime minister doesn't speak for the men in Turkey either. He was elected on a commitment to carry out reforms and started along these lines even being the first country to ratify the Council of Europe Convention against Domestic Violence. He appointed Fatma Şahin as the Minister of Family and Social Policies. And his wife certainly isn't a know your place woman.
Now he's pretty much going down another road which resulted in riots across Turkey just last year.

Cameron is a clown for coming out with quips like that just as he was a clown for his put down on Dennis Skinner in the HoC. Erdogan is an idiot just like Cameron and he will be gone at the end of the current term and hopefully Cameron will be gone as well.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Shady wrote:

Genes will always out.(That's something that my missus often says).

Is there a "Muslim gene"?

Fucking idiots ...

Don't call me a fucking idiot Ben. Thank you.

Seems Ben is becoming a little biased, some one who runs a forum should be neutral.

Shady wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Do you have problems with comprehending plain English?

I intimated his parents were animals. Not him.

D'UH!

Shady wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Pure ignorance and stupidity of the highest order.

You're obviously the product of animal upbringing.

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

No, it's because her parents must have been uneducated, uncivilised morons.

We all know who the real bigots are Shady. Nice try. Lol!

The Puzzler wrote:

Nems wrote:

Charm school was worth every penny I see

He learns it from his holy book -

8:55 wrote:Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe

Lol! You feeling a bit insecure?

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Do you have problems with comprehending plain English?

I intimated his parents were animals. Not him.

D'UH!

The Quran Dehumanizes Non-Muslims
and Says that They are Vile Animals

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who dedicated his entire life to studying Islam, said that non-Muslims rank somewhere between "feces" and the "sweat of a camel that has consumed impure food." Small wonder. The Quran dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to "panting dogs" with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness. Verse 7:179 says they are like "cattle" only worse.

Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.

A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be "mutated Jews" (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

The Puzzler wrote:
He learns it from his holy book -

Lol! You feeling a bit insecure?

Nah, quite the opposite  

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Do you have problems with comprehending plain English?

I intimated his parents were animals. Not him.

D'UH!

Her you twerp

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

No, it's because her parents must have been uneducated, uncivilised morons.

We all know who the real bigots are Shady. Nice try. Lol!

Well fuzzy at least I knew who my father was.

Anyway should you not be heading off to Gaza or are you hiding behind the women and the keyboard?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Shady wrote:

Well it seems there is.It's the one that causes them to inflict unbelievable cruelty & violence.

I guess you are unaware of the events of September 11th 2001 in your country.

And you call us fucking idiots?

I also know about all sorts of violent acts carried out in the name of Jesus. Yet I refuse to believe those people carried a common gene which made them predisposed to killing in the name of Jesus.

You fucking idiot.

We had 7/7 & a beheading in the UK........Muslims again.

Irn Bru wrote:

Nems wrote:Its not a bit like David Cameron being an arse. He doesn't speak for the men in his country, the Turkish prime minister does. Muslim women are expected to know their place, that place being subordinate to men.

Cameron doesn't speak for the men in this country and the Turkish prime minister doesn't speak for the men in Turkey either. He was elected on a commitment to carry out reforms and started along these lines even being the first country to ratify the Council of Europe Convention against Domestic Violence. He appointed Fatma Şahin as the Minister of Family and Social Policies. And his wife certainly isn't a know your place woman.
Now he's pretty much going down another road which resulted in riots across Turkey just last year.

Cameron is a clown for coming out with quips like that just as he was a clown for his put down on Dennis Skinner in the HoC. Erdogan is an idiot just like Cameron and he will be gone at the end of the current term and hopefully Cameron will be gone as well.

Good afternoon Irn.

I totally agree with you.

[quote="Fuzzy Zack"]

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Zack.

Well you inadvertantly showed your true Muslim colours by referring to Nems as an animal.

Let me guess,is it because she's white,female & British?

Do you have problems with comprehending plain English?

I intimated his parents were animals. Not him.

D'UH! [/quote

Read your own post goon.Don't come to my country without learning the English language.

Nems wrote:

Sassy wrote:
You are getting mixed up with Flophouse rules.   Ben likes information, reading lots of information from lots of sources is the way you learn and broaden your knowledge.   We can see you don't do that.

Ben likes information? You speaking for him again?

Who is the we you refer to? Your imaginary friend back?

  

THAT Royal "We" on sassy's part would be her multiple personality disorder (MPD) manifesting itself again..

Lone Wolf wrote:

Nems wrote:

Ben likes information? You speaking for him again?

Who is the we you refer to? Your imaginary friend back?

  

THAT Royal "We" on sassy's part would be her multiple personality disorder (MPD) manifesting itself again..

You could well be right!