Has Didge Gone?

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veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:

I know Columbus did not discover America, what the fuck has that to do with this debate?
Fuck all showing you have lost the plot and clearly know fuck all about history!
Again I have argued against the wrongs of the British Empire and other colonial nations to then be told I am anti British which is bollocks, I just understand history and condemn any wrongs one by nations with again your example of the Moken i a people who have not had persecution by some many different groups attacking them. You need to understand context in a history debate, which you clearly lack and need to use your own head, instead of google, try reading some books it may help

I JUST SAW THAT

You are definitely Racist
there are 200 different types of Aboriginals on MAINLAND Australia

Tasmania IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISLAND that Had Dozens of Native Nations ALL OF WHICH ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED.
THEY ARE NOT THAT SAME AS THE LIVING MAINLAND ABORIGINALS!!!

OK English people are Polish is What you are saying English People are the same a Russian is what you are saying!  
Well FUCK WIT
then there are still Palestinians THEY have MORE in common with Jews than Tasmanian Aboriginals have in common with mainland Aboriginals!!!!

RACIST FUCK Again you are saying because these people aren't white they don't fucking count there dozens of separate nations with their own languages, traditions and religions don't mean anything at all because there are people with the similar skin colour (but almost nothing else in common) on a nearby island that is still a 1000 miles away

Yes you are clueless, I do not think any group of human beings is superior or inferior, showing what an idiot you truly are. The aboriginals do form different ethnic groups, but you are the one who claims they are inferior, so by terminology, that makes you racist and not I. I think the Australians are appalling in their treatment of the Aboriginals, and even to this day. I mean you are the one that claims they are drunks etc, because Europeans have taken their lands and introduced European ways. In fact the Aboriginal ways are dying out because of western ways, of which I find appalling.
So again I am not the racist, I agree they do make up different ethic groups, my mistake, but again this is one era of history and not over 2000 years and the British certainly saw them only as all one race, they did not see them as different, which is more to the point

Hilarious your rants now, they are becoming hilarious.
Please continue you as loving you embarrass yourself, fucking priceless.

Will catch up to see what the Dingleberry has posted tomorrow



Night

Ben I think you need to put your mod on a leash, he needs a chill pill and clearly is one raving loon of epic proportions.

I know he is your mate, but seriously his rants are epic.

Night and all the best Ben, and Veya, best you clam down before you do yourself an injury!

 ::D:: 

DIDGE TELLING PEOPLES OF A DIFFERENT RACE THEIR DEATHS MEAN LESS THAN ANOTHER DEATH JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FROM EUROPE IS RACIST.

No didge you speak against what you persevere as racism in terms of nasty words etc, while THIS IS Really Highlighting the fact that you are actually racist on a very deep level that promotes the Eurocentric view of earth and the importance of it's populace.

You literally said Dozens of nations that have BEEN ANNIHILATED (more persecution regardless of over what time period than the Jews have suffered total) don't mean anything because there are nations with the same skin colour nearby.  

Again 2000 years is not long
Central Africans from the Sudan Region have a 4000 years history of persecution and you Actually named them as suffering less than Jews!! WTF a people that have been enslaved and treated like second class citizens by almost every empire around them since the start of recorded history.

the Moken also 4000 years they have been persecuted and forced out to sea by landed people.  China with it 4700+ years of recorded history confirms this.


Great quote didge would be nice if the first page of google didn't say this

Crappy Town: Why RJ Rummel Shouldn't Be Taken Seriously
http://www.crappytown.com/2011/12/why-rj-rummel-shouldnt-be-taken.html

When are we going to stop citing RJ Rummel?
http://archive.freecapitalists.org/forums/p/26853/443500.aspx

I would suggest you update your knowledge as you seem to be relying on already highly disputed 'facts' that amount to post war propaganda.

Hilarious again, on the one hand he is telling me off about ethnic groups in aboriginals but then moves the goal posts to other nations and class Africans as one nations.
So you are now making your own argument absurd, as how many different ethnic groups are there in Sudan? How many different ethic groups have persecuted them?
Seriously I can batter your ignorance all day long and not saying any of these atrocities mean less, just that of all the  religious and ethnic groups of people to have suffered the longest has been the Jews, by far more than any other group.

i am not making this about skin colour, that is you veya, showing you look at humans though skin colour.

Again no religious and ethnic group has suffered as much persecution for so long by different ethnic groups than the Jews, again your claims and rants to me being racist is nothing more than a deflection because you are losing the debate.


lol and socialists denoucing Rummel, score on that front

I suggest you grow up you small minded child!

In 1999, Rummel was awarded the Susan Strange Award of the International Studies Association.[27] This award recognizes a person "whose singular intellect, assertiveness, and insight most challenge conventional wisdom and intellectual and organizational complacency in the international studies community".[28]

In 2003, Rummel was given The Lifetime Achievement Award from the Conflict Processes Organized Section of the American Political Science Association for "scholarly contributions that have fundamentally improved the study of conflict processes".[29]

Rummel was initially stated to have been a finalist for the Nobel Prize for Peace, based on media reports and especially an AP report, reprinted in the Honolulu Advertiser on 3/1/96, about an alleged Nobel short list of 117 names.[30][31] Following discussion with a friend and additional research, he stated that he has been "frequently nominated" for the Nobel prize.[30][32] Rummel basis for this claim was a printed remark made by Per Ahlmark, Swedish writer and the former Deputy Prime Minister of Sweden, who pledged in 1999 to persistently nominate Rummel for the Nobel Peace Prize during the next decade.[30] While the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation[33] insist on confidentiality of the nomination, some sponsors breach this secrecy rule


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Rummel

And no MAINLAND Aboriginals are not dying out their number has steadily increased since the British Gov't and lords have been force out.

YES there is a problem with alcoholism because Alcohol is not something they have traditionally been exposed to they were not allowed it until the 1970's and they don't traditionally have a chemically similar substance meaning that one drink and they are blind drunk(Pacific Islanders also have this issue).

they are different but they aren't less. they have Drugs that cause hallucinations that would wreck a white man. (Pacific Islanders have Kava http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava also wrecks a white man)

AND big stretch up to say I dislike them when I have adopted a large portion of their spiritual beliefs. (basically any part that is compatible with science)

veya_victaous wrote:And no MAINLAND Aboriginals are not dying out their number has steadily increased since the British Gov't and lords have been force out.

YES there is a problem with alcoholism because Alcohol is not something they have traditionally been exposed to they were not allowed it until the 1970's and they don't traditionally have a chemically similar substance meaning that one drink and they are blind drunk(Pacific Islanders also have this issue).

they are different but they aren't less. they have Drugs that cause hallucinations that would wreck a white man. (Pacific Islanders have Kava http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava also wrecks a white man)

AND big stretch up to say I dislike them when I have adopted a large portion of their spiritual beliefs. (basically any part that is compatible with science)

There is nothing wrong with hallucinogenic drugs, in fact many have medical properties and alcohol is a drug that Europeans have changed their culture with, where again as seen above you are playing down their culture. To me they still do not have the rights they deserve, so no not enough is being done to protect their way of life, in fact the Australians want them to be westernized and why should they be.
So don't stupidly call me a racist you idiot, as seen i will make you look even more stupid with your own nation, because I deplore racism, to claim off the back of a history debate I am racist shows you are being so infantile it is beyond belief, because I have for ages fought against racism. You though as seen because you are not well versed on history bring in racism to deflect from the debate, that is pathetic

I have to go, but grow the fuck up!


Night and I hope to see you act like an adult when i come back

To be specific the Sudanese I was referring to were the Nubians mainly but the Beja could also count
Obviously Coptic (also SUPER persecuted but not that old)  and Sudanese Arabs came to the area later
Bedouin are that old but less persecuted.


PLEASE NAME A RIGHT THAT I HAVE AND AN ABORIGINAL DOES NOT????   
Australia does not have a 'bill of rights' at all.   
Aboriginals can claim MORE social services than I can..
they have greater rights regarding use of national parks and public land.
they can vote, there really is no right they do not have.
Your view of aboriginal seem to not take into account the past 40 years where they have been given a lot and raised in status to be called 'First Australians' the current push is to have the recognised in the constitution (but it would be weird cause the Aussie constitution is very 'un-poetic' and doesn't have the sort of 'inspiration' writing the US constitution has)

Why should they be westernised? how do you live in a city with out money? we don't actually want the desert peoples to be westernised the UN demands that we do it!!!! we want to leave them alone but then they have a lower life expectancy than whites and the UN says We HAVE TO DO something.
City Aboriginals really don't have much choice (fact of reality that no amount of wishy washy bullshit will change)

And I would suggest you again get a Modern Education that doesn't focus almost entirely on white people.
I would also suggest you Stop Insulting native peoples and Minority groups and stop insulting Asians in General.

YOU ARE RACIST! DIDGE You are the TRUE TYPE of RACIST that values your own peoples and history OVER ALL ELSE.

FROM this point we may as well agree to disagree.
You keep you white bred history           

I'll keep my mind open to history off all peoples     

Christ on a bike haha

First off, good to see you back didge

Now can we first all agree that you BOTH clearly know a lot about history. And also that neither of you are racist. So you strongly disagree on this point but it is crystal clear that didge is not being racist and that veya is obviously very well up on history (or you wouldn't be having this discussion anymore).

As I've said I can see both sides, but lean toward veya's view. Though veya the Jews are almost certainly the most consistently heavily persecuted group over a long period.

They were persecuted by the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Romans, in medieval Europe they were labelled Christ killers and had all sorts of grusome lies told about them, and in the middle east they suffered with the rise of Islam; they were murdered by the Inquisition and finally the Holocaust. That is well over 3000 years of persecution and massive scale.

However didge, veya is also right to point out that unlke other groups they were never actually persecuted to total annhialation, which means other groups have been persecuted to a more brutal and concerntrated extent at periods in history.

You can clearly see there are two views here which are both right depending on your interpretation. And that is really the key and what make History debates especially enjoyable imo. So there should really be no need for fall outs accusations of racism or deleting accounts

And that's my role of Speaker resurrected for the day haha

Ben_Reilly wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:The offensive thing for me was the other members and moderators saying "fvck you" when others dared mention that it was offensive.

Also, when i mentioned it broke rules, the owner of the forum said "cite".

When i posted the rules she had broke he disappeared - not a dickie bird.

See, this is what frustrates me about you, BA -- I explained what was going on directly to you in the several PMs you sent me. I didn't feel the need to repeat the explanation I had already given in the thread.

Now here I find you in another thread, acting as though I just ignored your questions, when you know full well I did not.

I have given up on reaching him, Ben.  Look, you can't get him to understand simple things like a graduated income tax, remedial affirmative action, or proportional equality...do you honestly think he will suddenly come into awareness when you try to explain that there is a difference between a flash of anger and a long-term, well-nurtured hatred?

It is more important to him to deny your point, than to understand it.  He's not an original thinker.

I accept Les's comments in his role as speaker
and will respect them, and let didge escape the truth  

PS Les
Jews have only existed for 3000 years and were allies of Romans persecuting others for 200 years at least. they Also saw protection that allowed them to persecute others during the Alexandrian period Another century taken off the 3000 years.
The levels of Persecution in Egypt are highly debatable as Many of the sources that claim it also claim they built the pyramids.... which were already over a 1000 years old at the time, being built during the 1st dynasties of Egypt, Ramses the 2nd, the Pharaoh in the Torah was in the 2nd dynasties period. Hollywood has greatly perverted history by suggesting the Jews were anyway involved in building the Pyramids as Egyptians had already Moved the Tombs of Pharaohs to the Valley of the kings. (a consequence of the Hyksos temporary take over of Egypt)

And Considering by Jewish religious law the enslaving of Nubians is 'fully acceptable and in fact the reason god made them' and the Nubians are an older peoples than Jews and are still around today AND being persecuted by Sudanese Arabs.
It really is pretty hard to accept 'the MOST' tag.

Veya, I think they have existed for more than 3,000-years.

Patheos Library wrote:Judaism is a religious tradition with origins dating back nearly four thousand years, rooted in the ancient near eastern region of Canaan (which is now Israel and Palestinian territories). Originating as the beliefs and practices of the people known as "Israel," classical, or rabbinic, Judaism did not emerge until the 1st century C.E. Judaism traces its heritage to the covenant God made with Abraham and his lineage — that God would make them a sacred people and give them a holy land. The primary figures of Israelite culture include the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophet Moses, who received God's law at Mt. Sinai. Judaism is a tradition grounded in the religious, ethical, and social laws as they are articulated in the Torah — the first five books of the Hebrew Bible. Jews refer to the Bible as the Tanakh, an acronym for the texts of the Torah, Prophets, and Writings. Other sacred texts include the Talmud and Midrash, the rabbinic, legal, and narrative interpretations of the Torah. The contemporary branches of Judaism differ in their interpretations and applications of these texts. The four main movements within Judaism today are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist, respectively ranging from traditional to liberal to religiously progressive in their application of Torah. While diverse in their views, Jews continue to be unified on the basis of their common connection to a set of sacred narratives expressing their relationship with God as a holy people. Judaism tends to emphasize practice over belief. Jewish worship is centered in synagogues, which completely replaced the Second Temple after its destruction in 70 C.E. Jewish religious leaders are called rabbis, who oversee the many rituals and ceremonies essential to Jewish religious practice.

Though the Jewish calendar goes back more than 5000 years, most scholars date the beginning of the religion of the Israelites to their forefather in faith, Abraham, whose life is generally dated to circa 2000-1800 B.C.E. However, the lost tribe was kicked out by the Assyrians around 6,500-years ago.

Veya, I'm not closing the debate here (the Speaker comment was light hearted) just trying to make it less aggressive between the two of you :-)

As for any part by the Jews in building the pyramids- well anyone who accepts that is a complete idiot regarding history, I am fascinated by ancient Egypt and have been lucky enough to visit the Valley of the Kings, it is remarkable and not in my opinion, along with all the temples of Karnak and Luxor, the work of slaves. Even Ramses II as pharaoh of the Torah is debated as the text never mentions his name directly (this is another good reason to be sceptical of Biblical 'history').

That Jews and Egyptians did have slaves however is unsurprising, it was 'the way' of the world for thousands of years.

I don't think that the Jews occasionally being in cahoots with occupying powers discounts their persecution however.

Original Quill wrote:Veya, I think they have existed for more than 3,000-years.

Patheos Library wrote:Judaism is a religious tradition with origins dating back nearly four thousand years, rooted in the ancient near eastern region of Canaan (which is now Israel and Palestinian territories). Originating as the beliefs and practices of the people known as "Israel," classical, or rabbinic, Judaism did not emerge until the 1st century C.E. Judaism traces its heritage to the covenant God made with Abraham and his lineage — that God would make them a sacred people and give them a holy land. The primary figures of Israelite culture include the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophet Moses, who received God's law at Mt. Sinai. Judaism is a tradition grounded in the religious, ethical, and social laws as they are articulated in the Torah — the first five books of the Hebrew Bible. Jews refer to the Bible as the Tanakh, an acronym for the texts of the Torah, Prophets, and Writings. Other sacred texts include the Talmud and Midrash, the rabbinic, legal, and narrative interpretations of the Torah. The contemporary branches of Judaism differ in their interpretations and applications of these texts. The four main movements within Judaism today are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist, respectively ranging from traditional to liberal to religiously progressive in their application of Torah. While diverse in their views, Jews continue to be unified on the basis of their common connection to a set of sacred narratives expressing their relationship with God as a holy people. Judaism tends to emphasize practice over belief. Jewish worship is centered in synagogues, which completely replaced the Second Temple after its destruction in 70 C.E. Jewish religious leaders are called rabbis, who oversee the many rituals and ceremonies essential to Jewish religious practice.

Though the Jewish calendar goes back more than 5000 years, most scholars date the beginning of the religion of the Israelites to their forefather in faith, Abraham, whose life is generally dated to circa 2000-1800 B.C.E.  However, the lost tribe was kicked out by the Assyrians around 6,500-years ago.  

I'm only counting AFTER Moses and the establishment of Israel. (logic being there Cant be Israelites until there is Israel)
Before that is Hearsay and IF anything should probably be counted as either Zoroastrian or Atenism (the 2 older monotheist cults)
and the first Kingdom of Israel was established around the 11th century BCE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
So 3,100 years



But you know what Your source is Wrong

Assyrian weren't conquering anyone 6,500 years ago
http://www.aina.org/brief.html

We enter into an extremely fruitful period in Assyrian History. This period would see 1800 years of Assyrian hegemony over Mesopotamia, beginning with Sargon of Akkad in 2371 B.C. and ending with the tragic fall of Nineveh in 612 B.C.

Sargon of Akkad established his kingdom in 2371 B.C., becoming the first king to assert control outside of his city-state.

so Assyrian's didn't because the first time they did was only 4300 years ago

Eilzel wrote:Christ on a bike haha

First off, good to see you back didge

Now can we first all agree that you BOTH clearly know a lot about history. And also that neither of you are racist. So you strongly disagree on this point but it is crystal clear that didge is not being racist and that veya is obviously very well up on history (or you wouldn't be having this discussion anymore).

As I've said I can see both sides, but lean toward veya's view. Though veya the Jews are almost certainly the most consistently heavily persecuted group over a long period.

They were persecuted by the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Romans, in medieval Europe they were labelled Christ killers and had all sorts of grusome lies told about them, and in the middle east they suffered with the rise of Islam; they were murdered by the Inquisition and finally the Holocaust. That is well over 3000 years of persecution and massive scale.

However didge, veya is also right to point out that unlke other groups they were never actually persecuted to total annhialation, which means other groups have been persecuted to a more brutal and concerntrated extent at periods in history.

You can clearly see there are two views here which are both right depending on your interpretation. And that is really the key and what make History debates especially enjoyable imo. So there should really be no need for fall outs accusations of racism or deleting accounts

And that's my role of Speaker resurrected for the day haha

Hi Eilzel


Again am going to disagree, being the fact that, the persecution here is consistent for the Jews throughout history, to make the point on extinction is an unknown area where a group may have survived and if they would have received moire persecution through more centuries or by other ethic groups onto them. We can very much establish Jewish history from a factual point of view from the split of the kingdoms, as any history before that is without any corroborating evidence. I will quickly answer one point on the Jews being the allies of Rome from Veya, that is complete and utter bull. Herod the Great for example was Nabatean, who adopted Judaism, in the loosest form possible and the Jewish people were at odds with his reign. So to claim they were allies when the majority of the Jewish people were against him, and his sons, is absurd..

Now as a religious group Eilzel, we find that in not just one but countless countries the Jews have suffered persecution, I doubt very much you can find another religious ethnic group that has lived and suffered in so many nations. To me to say the most persecuted in history is based on a time period and consistency. Were ethnic groups have been wiped out is a different terminology, more like genocide, where the end result which Hitler attempted would be to wipe them out> Here though we are talking about countless nations, where Jews have lived and been persecuted to the point of being killed, forced conversion or forced to leave. So to me the views are different, what is being argued is on where some nations have suffered at certain points in history, some to the point of extinction, whereas, with the Jews, I am not sure if you can find one country outside Israel itself where they have not faced persecution. So my point really does still stand, to me Veya is going off in tangent to events in history, which as seen are just that events where genocide has occurred, which is very different to a consistent case for Jews to have in so many places even still today and face antisemitism!

veya_victaous wrote:FROM this point we may as well agree to disagree.
You keep you white bred history            

I'll keep my mind open to history off all peoples     

Seriously Veya you made this racial, I did not because you took the view I was making racial when I was not, the Jews are not a race, no group of people are a race as biologically it does not exist., There is cultural and religious ethnic groups. I take offence to your poor terminology on gassing being human and making an anology on dogs to compare to humans, when the Nazi's themselves treating many ethnic groups as dogs. I did not even mention skin colour which shows it is you thinking racially not I. Man alive many who know me know I am more clued up than most when it comes to racial discrimination based on the classification of racial groups given.
I have masters in History which was way more than European history.
So it is you making all the wrong assumptions, and I have then returned in kind back onto you, which as seen you got very defensive about Australia.

Anyway my point still stands as in my previous post

On the grounds you lay out in that post didge, I agree with your view. I believe that is the difference here however, you and veya are arguing something just different enough to allow you to both come to very different conclusions.

Eilzel wrote:On the grounds you lay out in that post didge, I agree with your view. I believe that is the difference here however, you and veya are arguing something just different enough to allow you to both come to very different conclusions.

Well Eilzel, history being one of our favorite topics, is never one for full agreement for many people, most can be agreed, but so much is debated. It is an area where people will make different view points based on an interpretation of the evidence, which is what makes history so cool.


 ::D:: 

It certainly is, I'm glad we can agree on that   

Anyway I'm glad you're back didge x

Oh for the love of God

Is he still going on about it?

Just for you Didge i want to ANNIHILATE the Muslims that are killing innocent Muslims in Syria too

You seem to think i hate non Muslims yet never condemn people that share my own faith.

Since i have been on forums i have always attacked swines that go around killing regardless what faith they are and have condemned Muslims more.

You go believing the words i DIDNT imply as im sick of explaining that particular post now even though you want to keep dragging it for some unknown reason!

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:FROM this point we may as well agree to disagree.
You keep you white bred history            

I'll keep my mind open to history off all peoples     

Seriously Veya you made this racial, I did not because you took the view I was making racial when I was not, the Jews are not a race, no group of people are a race as biologically it does not exist., There is cultural and religious ethnic groups. I take offence to your poor terminology on gassing being human and making an anology on dogs to compare to humans, when the Nazi's themselves treating many ethnic groups as dogs. I did not even mention skin colour which shows it is you thinking racially not I. Man alive many who know me know I am more clued up than most when it comes to racial discrimination based on the classification of racial groups given.
I have masters in History which was way more than European history.
So it is you making all the wrong assumptions, and I have then returned in kind back onto you, which as seen you got very defensive about Australia.

Anyway my point still stands as in my previous post  

I will admit mistake the number i should have written was 4.5 to 5.5 I didn't include all the nations   
6 million is a VERY high estimate most people suggest around 5 million

And I don't care if its race or ethnic it is a very minor distinction unless you are specifically talking about genes  that why I prefer the term peoples   


Take your pick

but if you flounce off again you wont get any Candy   

Didge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:On the grounds you lay out in that post didge, I agree with your view. I believe that is the difference here however, you and veya are arguing something just different enough to allow you to both come to very different conclusions.

Well Eilzel, history being one of our favorite topics, is never one for full agreement for many people, most can be agreed, but so much is debated. It is an area where people will make different view points based on an interpretation of the evidence, which is what makes history so cool.


 ::D:: 

Dont Flounce again Didge
 :astwinsas: 

Flounce is my new word  ::D:: 

SEXY MAMA wrote:Oh for the love of God

Is he still going on about it?

Just for you Didge i want to ANNIHILATE the Muslims that are killing innocent Muslims in Syria too

You seem to think i hate non Muslims yet never condemn people that share my own faith.

Since i have been on forums i have always attacked swines that go around killing regardless what faith they are and have condemned Muslims more.

You go believing the words i DIDNT imply as im sick of explaining that particular post now even though you want to keep dragging it for some unknown reason!

Ohh no Sexy   Don't kick it off again       

Ohh and Didge
I will put the Dogs comparison in Context, Because I did not mean that to be offensive ( I LOVE dogs    ::-3::    ::-3::   I have 2)

I honestly believe Plants, Particularity large trees and others that live much longer than us ARE a Higher spiritual being than Myself or any Human.
 ::alahoo:: ::alahoo:: ::alahoo:: ::alahoo::

Since this Thread is not actually about anything now that Didge is back I will add to my last post
I read A lot of semi fictional military history which has a lot of death of humans and i think nothing of it... but I was honestly upset as in put of eating off the whole day at a scene in a novel where a dog got killed in quiet a cruel and unnecessary fashion... and I thought something bad would happen to it as soon as it was introduced       

SEXY MAMA wrote:Oh for the love of God

Is he still going on about it?

Just for you Didge i want to ANNIHILATE the Muslims that are killing innocent Muslims in Syria too

You seem to think i hate non Muslims yet never condemn people that share my own faith.

Since i have been on forums i have always attacked swines that go around killing regardless what faith they are and have condemned Muslims more.

You go believing the words i DIDNT imply as im sick of explaining that particular post now even though you want to keep dragging it for some unknown reason!

Incorrect, what you said was wrong plain and simple and there is never an excuse, to want to exterminate anyone, no matter if they are vile is not an excuse, that is how hate becomes one vicious circle, so I disagree with not only a view to exterminate people no matter your version or a connection to one of the worst mass murders in history. I found it in very poor taste, for one to the many victims of Hitler which goes into for civilians murdered is 11 million, let alone POW's that were murdered, so it was in the worst possible taste let alone wanting anyone exterminated, as two wrongs do not make a right, you in fact justify their vileness by being as vile yourself which is my point.
This was not to have a go at you but to condemn what was said and show such views are wrong.


Veya all cool and no hard feelings, sorry if I said anything to offend you, just I do and can get worked up other such tragic events in history, that does not excuse me being an arse¬to you

No Probs, I'm Sorry I did not mean to offend and Like I said I do agree it is terrible and all that, I am just pointing out that HUMANS have really sucked at being nice to each other for a VERY long time       

And When I get worked up a tend to type what I would speak like to my friends (which is a lot of Expletives      )

Didge wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:Oh for the love of God

Is he still going on about it?

Just for you Didge i want to ANNIHILATE the Muslims that are killing innocent Muslims in Syria too

You seem to think i hate non Muslims yet never condemn people that share my own faith.

Since i have been on forums i have always attacked swines that go around killing regardless what faith they are and have condemned Muslims more.

You go believing the words i DIDNT imply as im sick of explaining that particular post now even though you want to keep dragging it for some unknown reason!

Incorrect, what you said was wrong plain and simple and there is never an excuse, to want to exterminate anyone, no matter if they are vile is not an excuse, that is how hate becomes one vicious circle, so I disagree with not only a view to exterminate people no matter your version or a connection to one of the worst mass murders in history. I found it in very poor taste, YOUR PROBLEM REALLY for one to the many victims of Hitler which goes into for civilians murdered is 11 million, let alone POW's that were murdered, so it was in the worst possible taste let alone wanting anyone exterminated, as two wrongs do not make a right, you in fact justify their vileness by being as vile yourself which is my point.
This was not to have a go at you but to condemn what was said and show such views are wrong.


Veya all cool and no hard feelings, sorry if I said anything to offend you, just I do and can get worked up other such tragic events in history, that does not excuse me being an arse¬to you

Yet I haven't seen any condemnation for the OP hmmmmm that's very telling Didge

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Didge wrote:



Incorrect, what you said was wrong plain and simple and there is never an excuse, to want to exterminate anyone, no matter if they are vile is not an excuse, that is how hate becomes one vicious circle, so I disagree with not only a view to exterminate people no matter your version or a connection to one of the worst mass murders in history. I found it in very poor taste, YOUR PROBLEM REALLY for one to the many victims of Hitler which goes into for civilians murdered is 11 million, let alone POW's that were murdered, so it was in the worst possible taste let alone wanting anyone exterminated, as two wrongs do not make a right, you in fact justify their vileness by being as vile yourself which is my point.
This was not to have a go at you but to condemn what was said and show such views are wrong.


Veya all cool and no hard feelings, sorry if I said anything to offend you, just I do and can get worked up other such tragic events in history, that does not excuse me being an arse¬to you

Yet I haven't seen any condemnation for the OP hmmmmm that's very telling Didge

I have condemned the comments throughout in my comments on this thread check back and see, by also calling them vile may have given you a clue.
You see this is the problem with hate and revenge, it is like a virus that spreads, to the point more and more people get wrapped up with venom and hate, which as seen resolves nothing.
So to me you badly justify their views by being as bad yourself.
The reality is wishing to exterminate anyone is wrong, just because they hold some disgusting sickening views and fail to see why you do not realise that!.

Didge wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:


Yet I haven't seen any condemnation for the OP hmmmmm that's very telling Didge

I have condemned the comments throughout in my comments on this thread check back and see, by also calling them vile may have given you a clue.
You see this is the problem with hate and revenge, it is like a virus that spreads, to the point more and more people get wrapped up with venom and hate, which as seen resolves nothing.
So to me you badly justify their views by being as bad yourself.
The reality is wishing to exterminate anyone is wrong, just because they hold some disgusting views.

Again that's your opinion I obviously don't agree with it

If someone is going to jerk off looking at Muslim children being slaughtered im not going to sit back and pretend its fine

Is it Hate? ofcourse it is and im never going to pretend otherwise

BigAndy9 wrote:
I'm afraid Didge won't be back:

I see now Scrat is applauding Sexy, well you cannot beat the left for their hypocrisy.

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The term "hypocrisy" doesn't sit too well with anything that you care to write on here, B'Andy...

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Didge wrote:


I have condemned the comments throughout in my comments on this thread check back and see, by also calling them vile may have given you a clue.
You see this is the problem with hate and revenge, it is like a virus that spreads, to the point more and more people get wrapped up with venom and hate, which as seen resolves nothing.
So to me you badly justify their views by being as bad yourself.
The reality is wishing to exterminate anyone is wrong, just because they hold some disgusting views.

Again that's your opinion I obviously don't agree with it

If someone is going to jerk off looking at Muslim children being slaughtered im not going to sit back and pretend its fine

Is it Hate? ofcourse it is and im never going to pretend otherwise

Nobody is stating you should be fine about it and would happily join with you in condemning it, what you do not do is be as bad as them and shows you are being led by hate.
You do not resolve conflicts with hate, what normally happens is countless people end up dying and continue to die until you change attitudes. In the end you will regret your hate. because hate achieves nothing and is not an example to lead your life by!
You of all people know and have posted for example Muslims doing good to counter hate views against Muslims as a group, yet now you are taking the opposite stance and the view that Muslim haters take. Again it becomes one vicious circle with each side feeding off the others hate, where again more people suffer an for what gratification will it give you?

Nothing, but a moment of anger relief.

veya_victaous wrote:................................. 

Take your pick



but if you flounce off again you wont get any Candy   

  

THERE is lolly/confectionary factory over in East Maitland, with a neat little shop front where I reckon the likes of you, Didge, Cass, gerbil, eddie and company could have a great time, veya' !

you see we Christians wouldn't wish anyone dead even those that persecute and kill our Christian brothers and sisters , instead we pray for them and pray for their salvation , this is the difference with Christians . Jesus said love our enemies and pray for them , not wish them dead

peace shalom in the name of Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:you see we Christians wouldn't wish  anyone dead even those that persecute and kill our Christian brothers and sisters , instead we pray for them and pray for their salvation , this is the difference with Christians . Jesus said love our enemies and pray for them , not wish them dead

peace shalom in the name of Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God

LOL what a liar you are

Have you forgotten the many times you have wished me and MY children dead?????


I can see past your FAKE shit VOD you should ALWAYS remember that.

Lone Wolf wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:................................. 

Take your pick



but if you flounce off again you wont get any Candy   

  

THERE is lolly/confectionary factory over in East Maitland, with a neat little shop front where I reckon the likes of you, Didge, Cass, gerbil, eddie and company could have a great time, veya' !

I bagsie the Liquorice Allsorts.......HANDS OFF   

gerber wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
  

THERE is lolly/confectionary factory over in East Maitland, with a neat little shop front where I reckon the likes of you, Didge, Cass, gerbil, eddie and company could have a great time, veya' !

I bagsie the Liquorice Allsorts.......HANDS OFF     

Thank God I only love Chocolate..............   

gerber wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
  

THERE is lolly/confectionary factory over in East Maitland, with a neat little shop front where I reckon the likes of you, Didge, Cass, gerbil, eddie and company could have a great time, veya' !

I bagsie the Liquorice Allsorts.......HANDS OFF   

and very welcome to them you are.....I cant say that there is anything there that I would drool over......no tootsie rolls or ferrero rochet .....besides I only eat the orange and red ones

Cass wrote:

gerber wrote:

I bagsie the Liquorice Allsorts.......HANDS OFF     

and very welcome to them you are.....I cant say that there is anything there that I would drool over......no tootsie rolls or ferrero rochet .....besides I only eat the orange and red ones

Er ladies, I was offered first choice, so I am afraid you will have to get into line behind me.
I might have to taste a few to see what I prefer mind, so I hope you do not mind waiting

  

Didge wrote:

Cass wrote:

and very welcome to them you are.....I cant say that there is anything there that I would drool over......no tootsie rolls or ferrero rochet .....besides I only eat the orange and red ones

Er ladies, I was offered first choice, so I am afraid you will have to get into line behind me.
I might have to taste a few to see what I prefer mind, so I hope you do not mind waiting

  

Pfft.....you snooze you lose buddy boy......all is fair in love and candy.....you can have all the jelly beans including red and orange - I cant stand them xx

Cass wrote:

Didge wrote:


Er ladies, I was offered first choice, so I am afraid you will have to get into line behind me.
I might have to taste a few to see what I prefer mind, so I hope you do not mind waiting

  

Pfft.....you snooze you lose buddy boy......all is fair in love and candy.....you can have all the jelly beans including red and orange - I cant stand them xx

  

I love jelly beans, so deal...x

Didge wrote:

Cass wrote:

and very welcome to them you are.....I cant say that there is anything there that I would drool over......no tootsie rolls or ferrero rochet .....besides I only eat the orange and red ones

Er ladies, I was offered first choice, so I am afraid you will have to get into line behind me.
I might have to taste a few to see what I prefer mind, so I hope you do not mind waiting

  

Sqcuz me.

HMHMHM

Ladies first................

Typical male in first no manners   

gerber wrote:

Didge wrote:


Er ladies, I was offered first choice, so I am afraid you will have to get into line behind me.
I might have to taste a few to see what I prefer mind, so I hope you do not mind waiting

  

Sqcuz me.

HMHMHM

Ladies first................

Typical male in first no manners   

When it comes to sweets all niceties and manners go out the window.


 

Is there anything left??   

Eddie, your classic disciplinary skills are needed. Move these other charlatans aside so I can get to the Chocolate Orange & Raspberry Sticks.

Original Quill wrote:Eddie, your classic disciplinary skills are needed. Move these other charlatans aside so I can get to the Chocolate Orange & Raspberry Sticks.

*munching noisily *.......gulp.....smacks lips .......

Sorry did you say something Quill and Eddie?





Pfft.....I could take her......





















where would be the question!














love you eds x

Original Quill wrote:Eddie, your classic disciplinary skills are needed.  Move these other charlatans aside so I can get to the Chocolate Orange & Raspberry Sticks.

Quill me old mucker, I'm going to ban them all temporarily so we can eat what we want   

But don't tell 'em I said so