WELL SAID....Why I, as a Muslim, am launching a campaign to ban the burka in Britain

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The increasing fashion for young Muslim women in Britain to wear the burka (in contrast to their mothers, who do not) is one of most sinister developments of our times.

Supporters of this garment like to pretend that it is a welcome symbol of our society’s multicultural diversity and philosophical tolerance. But such warped thinking is woefully misguided. In reality, the burka is an archaic tribal piece of cloth that is eagerly used by fundamentalist zealots to promote a toxic brand of extremist non-Koranic theology.

Everyone in Britain, including Muslims, should oppose the insidious spread of this vile piece of clothing, which imprisons women, threatens social harmony, fuels distrust, has grave health implications and is a potent security risk


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The Puzzler wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Neither of those links demonstrates that I would be a threat to someone else's safety dressed as Zorro.

The burkha has been identified as a security threat, therefore it should be banned.

By whom?
It can be argued that far right extremist groups pose more of security threat - hence the interest in them by the security services and police.

Handy Andy wrote:

The Puzzler wrote:
The burkha has been identified as a security threat, therefore it should be banned.

By whom?
It can be argued that far right extremist groups pose more of security threat - hence the interest in them by the security services and police.

By the fact that terrorists and armed robbers have used it many times, so it should be treated just the same as a full face balaclava. As for the idea that far right groups are more of a threat than Muslim extremists(and it doesn't get much more extreme than Saudi wahhabism) is ridiculous, as you can see by my previous post.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1375770/France-burka-ban-Burka-alien-cultural-monstrosity-CAN-banned-Britain.html

Vintage wrote:Is it just me or is there rather a significant difference in a hijab(scarf) of moderate volume at least and someone being covered in cloth from head to toe and including the face and usually in these cases the hands. Its political people, its two fingers to the west, I'm here and I'll continue to act just as I like, you have to have cultural sensibilities to me but stuff your sensibilities, after all its a relatively recent thing when Iranian officials and their families first came here after the revolution they wore adapted western clothing with scarves - no face coverings, neither did the Somalis or in fact anyone else very occassionally you'd see a Saudi woman in an abaya - with a scarf usually - no face covering.

The burkha and niqab are rooted in the 7th century, and should have stayed there but thanks to the rise of wahhabism over the last 35 or so years, we now see it more and more in the West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While_Europe_Slept

http://www.examiner.com/article/as-Muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-to-a-society

BigAndy9 wrote: MrDoodles on Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:04 pm

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SEXY MAMA wrote:
Really????

Cause thats nonsense!!!!

I wear a hijab. I have been driving since i was 17 and touch wood havent had any accidents!

BNP fail once again!




 MrDoodles on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:06 pm

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SEXY MAMA wrote:
One can drive wearing a burkha. You can actually see through it!!!!


How about when you have to turn your head to check junctions, change lanes or reversing then?


Unfortunately, because Sexy Mum flounced from inaflip, it is very difficult to find her posts, but there's a little taste of what the moderates over there faced on a daily basis.

     

Ok this is really confusing (or maybe I'm missing the sarcasm   )
So you're saying they got reasonable posts?
From some one that actually knows because she wears one
..... aren't they lucky  

Veya I'm still waiting for AndyMandy to prove his point as to why he posted that post from
2011???????

It doesn't make sense at all.......

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:What we should do is make sure that the women who are wearing them, want to, not ban them.   Some women don't like being noticed, feel threatened by it.   Western women 'dress down', wear sunglasses and loose clothes and maybe a hat if they don't want attention.   In winter women wear coats with hoods, boots etc.   Some women simply do not feel safe on our streets drawing attention to themselves, and who can blame them.   No, they should not be banned, yes we should make sure that women wearing them want to.   What's going to be next - hoodies?   Wet weather parka's with hoods with a drawcord so that the weather doesn't get to your face?   If people feel threatened it's their problem, the women just want anonymity, and that's their right if it's their choice.    

Good points, but I do think that wearing this garment gives out the message that women should not be seen, and I don't like that - it's demeaning to all women, and women fought for equality for a long time in this country.

That's not a good reason to ban it I guess.

When I said I found them a bit threatening, I didn't mean I thought they were terrorists, it's just that they look like huge black crows, and it looks a bit sinister.

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They look very sinister .

Only if you are paranoid  ::D:: 

not at all sassy, they are horrible and i dread to think how those women smell in this hot weather they must stink to high heaven , they are dressed in black , black is like a solar panel .

Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

My grandaughter has a penchant for black even in this weather. Showering regularly and using deodorant and having clean clothes every day stops you smelling whatever the weather. Surely you are not so ignorant that you think they wear the same one every day? I've known women in mini skirts who stink. Anyway, burkas aren't just black you know.

SEXY MAMA wrote:Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Sassy wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

She really isn't clever enough to hide her hatred.

I dont converse with Zionists Sass and she proves her hatred with every post!

Sassy wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

It wasnt about being sinister raggs.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

Finding a bit of material sinister is paranoid whatever way you look at it.

Sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

Finding a bit of material sinister is paranoid whatever way you look at it.

No it's not.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Neither of those links demonstrates that I would be a threat to someone else's safety dressed as Zorro.

No, but quite clearly it would demonstrate that you were a threat to your own safety, and thus require sectioning...zorro   how........dated....

SEXY MAMA wrote:Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

so am I because you are going to hell i have already told you about paradise not being heaven .
As for those women not smelling how do you know this lol have you met them all ?

And what the hell is a true Christian ?

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

She really isn't clever enough to hide her hatred.

I dont converse with Zionists Sass and she proves her hatred with every post!

What I am is a Christian who tries to see the good in everyone and think that everyone has the right to freedom in what they wear what they say , and I am totally against oppression of any kind such as women being made third class citizens , I would like to draw your attention to your obvious HATRED of a certain group of people who you felt should have been ANNIHILATED by HITLER , if a Jew happened to come to you for legal help , would you simply kill them or send them away or perhaps direct them to some NAZI ???

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

well said Raggs

 

http://thehumanist.com/news/international/france-upholds-ban-on-burqas

WELL DONE FRANCE

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BigAndy9 wrote:

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:

agree

It's perfectly good common sense isn't it Miss P?

Same with beaten wives - the real victims can't leave and don't leave - they need help.

Strong women just get up and leave.

It is a government's duty to step in when necessary.

Wow Andy Im impressed. I would definitely had you in the "if it was so bad she would have left" camp
And that is not me being facetious x

Raggamuffin wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Hi SM, it was rather an underhand remark wasn't it? xx

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

I dont like them. They make me uneasy. They are a symbol of oppression not religious freedom.
They are alien to our culture. Of course they should be banned immediately. Its all been said before they have been used to help men escape the police. They wont be banned. Britain doesn't have the back bone France does.

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:Lol!!!!

I can assure you Sass these women dont smell!

And then she has the bloody cheek to say shes a true Christian?

Ffs im glad im going in the opposite direction of that vile scum

so am I because you are going to hell i have already told you about paradise not being heaven .
As for those women not smelling how do you know this lol have you met them all ?

And what the hell is a true Christian ?

Someone you are not!
I have NEVER belittled your or any ones faith in here even though you do it with very post.

See the difference!
Oh and I'm glad I'm going to an opposite direction!

Tommy Monk wrote:White western person criticises the burka and they are called racist/xenaphobic/Islamaphobic etc.....


A Muslim woman criticises it and she is a hero....


Double standards anyone...???

agree

SEXY MAMA wrote:

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:


so am I because you are going to hell i have already told you about paradise not being heaven .
As for those women not smelling how do you know this lol have you met them all ?

And what the hell is a true Christian ?

Someone you are not!
I have NEVER belittled your or any ones faith in here even though you do it with very post.

See the difference!
Oh and I'm glad I'm going to an opposite direction!

Im not belittling your  faith you do a good enough job yourself  

is wanting a certain faith dead ie the Jews not belittling them ?

Nems wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:


It's perfectly good common sense isn't it Miss P?

Same with beaten wives - the real victims can't leave and don't leave - they need help.

Strong women just get up and leave.

It is a government's duty to step in when necessary.

Wow Andy Im impressed. I would definitely had you in the "if it was so bad she would have left" camp
And that is not me being facetious x

No no, not at all Nems.

Nems wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Blowing kisses whilst slagging someone else off is rather underhand.

If you don't find Burkas sinister, that's up to you, but I do, and I'm not paranoid - I just think they're nasty.

I dont like them. They make me uneasy. They are a symbol of oppression not religious freedom.
They are alien to our culture. Of course they should be banned immediately. Its all been said before they have been used to help men escape the police. They wont be banned. Britain doesn't have the back bone France does.

Agree nems

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Someone you are not!
I have NEVER belittled your or any ones faith in here even though you do it with very post.

See the difference!
Oh and I'm glad I'm going to an opposite direction!

Im not belittling your  faith you do a good enough job yourself  

is wanting a certain faith dead ie the Jews not belittling them ?

You are too thick to understand that particular post so im not going to waste my time with you.

Victor has summed you up 100% accurately.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

LITTLE MISS PERFECT wrote:

Im not belittling your  faith you do a good enough job yourself  

is wanting a certain faith dead ie the Jews not belittling them ?

You are too thick to understand that particular post so im not going to waste my time with you.

Victor has summed you up 100% accurately.

and many have summed you up too , lets see now    fake blonde blue eyed msulim woman size 10 ::lies:: , lawyer oops! you mean LIAR  ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 

VICIOUS LITTLE MISPERFECT shows her spite and bile yet again.

Sassy wrote:VICIOUS LITTLE MISPERFECT shows her spite and bile yet again.

Yeah you know about vicious don't you ?

sassy the right name spiteful sassy who always has to have the last word , and cannot see any bad in SM lol , well i think there are many on here who know exactly what she thinks with her true colours shining through .
Here's a little reminder just in case you closed your eyes while reading through lol

''these are people that should have been ANNIHILATED BY HITLER '

NOW THAT IS VICIOUS