How Did This Ancient Civilization Avoid War for 2,000 Years?

The Harappan civilization dominated the Indus River valley beginning about five thousand years ago, many of its massive cities sprawling at the edges of rivers that still flow through Pakistan and India today. But its culture remains a mystery. Why did it leave behind no representations of great leaders, nor of warfare?

Archaeologists have long wondered whether the Harappan civilization could actually have thrived for roughly 2,000 years without any major wars or leadership cults. Obviously people had conflicts, sometimes with deadly results — graves reveal ample skull injuries caused by blows to the head. But there is no evidence that any Harappan city was ever burned, besieged by an army, or taken over by force from within. Sifting through the archaeological layers of these cities, scientists find no layers of ash that would suggest the city had been burned down, and no signs of mass destruction. There are no enormous caches of weapons, and not even any art representing warfare.

That would make the Harappan civilization an historical outlier in any era. But it's especially noteworthy at a time when neighboring civilizations in Mesopotamia were erecting massive war monuments, and using cuneiform writing on clay tablets to chronicle how their leaders slaughtered and enslaved thousands.

What exactly were the Harappans doing instead of focusing their energies on military conquest?

http://io9.com/a-civilization-without-war-1595540812

it was probably spared the curse of multiculturalism and obviously ISLAM hadn't been invented back then

I've been interested in this civilization ever since I learned about them in high school.

One tidbit I had not known until reading further in the source article was this:

Art from Harappan cities also attests to a very mixed population, with statues showing people who sport a wide variety of clothing and hair styles. So the Harappans appear to have been a very diverse lot. Some traveled far from their cities, probably by boat across the Persian Gulf, to trade with other great civilizations in the region during the 2000s BCE. There was at least one Harappan trade outpost in Mesopotamia, in the city of Eshnunna, which today lies about 30 km northeast of Baghdad. People from other Mesopotamian cities like Ur owned distinctively Harappan luxury goods such as beads and tiny carved bones.

Harappans appear to have been traders who welcomed people to their cities from pretty much anywhere. But that doesn't mean they were disorganized or anarchic.

Very interesting!

smelly_bandit wrote:it was probably spared the curse of multiculturalism and obviously ISLAM hadn't been invented back then

Based on what facts?

Original Quill wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:it was probably spared the curse of multiculturalism and obviously ISLAM hadn't been invented back then

Based on what facts?

Guess he missed this part:


They discovered that many had grown up drinking water from elsewhere in the region, meaning that a lot of the city's inhabitants were migrants who had come to the city as adults.

BigAndy9 has the answer (surprise!).

They weren't overcrowded and hardly ever saw "different" people.

BigAndy9 wrote:BigAndy9 has the answer (surprise!).

They weren't overcrowded and hardly ever saw "different" people.

We are not over crowded, only 7% urbanized.

Looks fairly packed to me;



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Above is a sketch of the city plan of Mohenjo-Daro, based on what we've been able to reconstruct from ruins. There are several wide promenades — large enough for two carts to drive side-by-side — that passed through the city, then out of the gates and into the farmlands beyond.

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Based on what facts?

Guess he missed this part:


They discovered that many had grown up drinking water from elsewhere in the region, meaning that a lot of the city's inhabitants were migrants who had come to the city as adults.

It is intriguing. The article seems to suggest they were mainly merchants. Could it be they were a group of wealthy people from many cultures who got together and formed a sort of early 'walled community' to keep out any invaders? They'd still have to have had some sort of superiority, maybe advanced weapons or very well-trained armed guards? It amazes me when I read about peoples from many centuries ago behaving very much like we do today, just without the technology...

Tesstacious wrote:

Didge wrote:


Guess he missed this part:


They discovered that many had grown up drinking water from elsewhere in the region, meaning that a lot of the city's inhabitants were migrants who had come to the city as adults.

It is intriguing.  The article seems to suggest they were mainly merchants.  Could it be they were a group of wealthy people from many cultures who got together and formed a sort of early 'walled community' to keep out any invaders?  They'd still have to have had some sort of superiority, maybe advanced weapons or very well-trained armed guards? It amazes me when I read about peoples from many centuries ago behaving very much like we do today, just without the technology...

It is interesting Tess, but there seems little evidence of wars, maybe things were more in abundance then, and thus what do you have to fear if all are looked after?

Oh Tess there is a new book I thought you might be interested in:


[size=32]The Temple of the Watchers and the Discovery of Eden[/size]


http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/Go_Tep_launch.htm

Didge wrote:Oh Tess there is a new book I thought you might be interested in:



http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/Go_Tep_launch.htm

Thanks Didge - you're right, it does interest me, I'll check it out.

Original Quill wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:it was probably spared the curse of multiculturalism and obviously ISLAM hadn't been invented back then

Based on what facts?

Islam wasn't around until the 7th century and multiculturalism is a left wing social engineering experiment which didn't start until recently

chronology not your forte then??

smelly_bandit wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Based on what facts?

Islam wasn't around until the 7th century and multiculturalism is a left wing social engineering experiment which didn't start until recently

chronology not your forte then??

More like as seen you are stupid and did not read the article in regards to migrants.

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

Islam wasn't around until the 7th century and multiculturalism is a left wing social engineering experiment which didn't start until recently

chronology not your forte then??

More like as seen you are stupid and did not read the article in regards to migrants.

what about migrants??

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


More like as seen you are stupid and did not read the article in regards to migrants.

what about migrants??

Oh dear, dummy alert, read the article it may help:

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

what about migrants??

Oh dear, dummy alert, read the article it may help:

scared are we??

what do migrants have to do with left wing multiculturalism?

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


Oh dear, dummy alert, read the article it may help:

scared are we??

what do migrants have to do with left wing multiculturalism?

PMSL, are you a migrant to this country?

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

scared are we??

what do migrants have to do with left wing multiculturalism?

PMSL, are you a migrant to this country?

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:

PMSL, are you a migrant to this country?

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

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So you are a migrant from a different culture are you not?

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

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So you are a migrant from a different culture are you not?

Yep

They probably did what most ancient civilisations that were both prosperous and peaceful did in their day....

and paid off any unfriendly neighbours......

victorisnotamused wrote:They probably did what most ancient civilisations that were both prosperous and peaceful did in their day....

and paid off any unfriendly neighbours......

That never really works though does it Victor, what it does is in fact entice invasion if a nation is rich, so I doubt that would explain over 2000 years.

I suppose there is a possibility of them being a Protectorate state, though again to who?

It is rather intriguing, since by its nature (prosperous) it simply invited invasion...

I suppose thay could have been sufficiently advanced enough that surrounding groups held them in awe.

maybe they were regarded as powerful magicians, dangerous to meddle with...

lets face it , it doesnt take much when technolgh highs consist of having say Iron weapons rather than bronze, for example all those "legendary" swords...like for example excalibur and its bretheren

there is no doubt that some of them actually existed, the legends are too persistant and wide spread to be totally ficticious, so what were they....

I'd avance the theory that they were in fact meteoric nickle iron meteors, forged into swords...

the legends usually go ..
metal from the gods/sky.. yup
dont rust.....well they wouldnt ...nickle iron is near on stainless steel
they had a "glow to them....well again stainless steel certainly gets a bule colour when heated
they were VERY sharp and very HARD...yup...stainless again....

Oddly...wilst very strong...they didnt bend, but could break if abused....yep ...stainless again.....

they needeed a "master smith" to make them well nickle iron requires tremendous heat to forge...much more than plain iron, and requires quite advanced techniques to work.....so it is likely that this is very true....

of course for the time they were obviously "magic swords" worthy only of great leaders...and rich ones at that....

so could it be that these people had just that tiny edge to their technology, in some way, that overawed there neighbours  :\\:[: ::dunno:: 

victorisnotamused wrote:It is rather intriguing, since by its nature (prosperous) it simply invited invasion...

I suppose thay could have been sufficiently advanced enough that surrounding groups held them in awe.

maybe they were regarded as powerful magicians, dangerous to meddle with...

lets face it , it doesnt take much when technolgh highs consist of having say Iron weapons rather than bronze, for example all those "legendary" swords...like for example excalibur and its bretheren

there is no doubt that some of them actually existed, the legends are too persistant and wide spread to be totally ficticious, so what were they....

I'd avance the theory that they were in fact meteoric nickle iron meteors, forged into swords...

the legends usually go ..
metal from the gods/sky.. yup
dont rust.....well they wouldnt ...nickle iron is near on stainless steel
they had a "glow to them....well again stainless steel certainly gets a bule colour when heated
they were VERY sharp and very HARD...yup...stainless again....

Oddly...wilst very strong...they didnt bend, but could break if abused....yep ...stainless again.....

they needeed a "master smith" to make them  well nickle iron requires tremendous heat to forge...much more than plain iron, and requires quite advanced techniques to work.....so it is likely that this is very true....

of course for the time they were obviously "magic swords" worthy only of great leaders...and rich ones at that....

so could it be that these people had just that tiny edge to their technology, in some way, that overawed there neighbours  :\\:[: ::dunno:: 

But even the other first civilizations fell Victor to lesser advanced groups, look at the Sumerians for example, in fact one of the best examples was Cyrus the Great, who was as stated a Protectorate to the Medians under King Astyages, who was only defeated by one of his own generals who betrayed him Harpagus, as they heavily outnumbered the Persians. Then Cyrus did not kill Astyages, he retired him with great wealth and made the Medes as if near enough equals. .

So I think there has to be more reasons behind this, though superstition is a valid reason

I agree, since being a peaceful civilisation is not a good reason not to be attacked, in fact the combination of rich and peaceful is even to day a dangerous combination, but back then it would have been near suicidal....

victorisnotamused wrote:I agree, since being a peaceful civilisation is not a good reason not to be attacked, in fact the combination of rich and peaceful is even to day a dangerous combination, but back then it would have been near suicidal....

Which makes this even more perplexing as to why they do not seen to have been invaded. It maybe that they just did not glorify war by building monuments etc, but were excellent warriors, that easily defeated and kept in check their enemies.

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

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So you are a migrant from a different culture are you not?

GOTCHA!!!!!!

knew you would take the bait because you're too stupid to think things through

I have a judeo-christian heritage same as UK

I celebrate Easter and Christmas same as the UK

i come from a democratic background same as the UK

SA is part of the commonwealth

SA fought on the side of the allies during both world wars

there is even a statue of Mandela in London

so culturally and historically im already starting from a point of perfect compatibility, from my arrival in the UK i started adding British customs to what was my culture so now with all the additional cultural elements ive added, id say im more British than south African culturally

oh wait, you're right after all

i forgot, i do call a BBQ - a braai

look how multicultural i am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

so what you have shown didge is that immigrants from compatible cultural backgrounds don't automatically create a multicultural society since they aren't culturally different enough to contribute any cultural practices.

in fact the very word "multicultural" is self defeating and proves that its only the leftwing who subscribe to this nonsense

the reality is that every country and society only has a single culture, that culture is made up from the beliefs, fetishes, practices,superstitions,customs, history and heritage of the people living there as well as some foreign cultural elements

the reason foreign practices and culture elements creep in and then become part of that culture, is due to simple plagiarism.

we love a good curry but we don't love a good ISLAMIC stoning or a bit of FGM

unfortunately the left have socially engineered and tampered with the natural order of things and instead of the host culture being allowed to pick and choose the foreign cultural practices it WANTS to integrate, the left are essentially raping and mutilating British culture, altering it and forcing it to integrate foreign cultures that are incompatible and poisonous,

the ultimate desire of the left is of course to eliminate all traces of fundamental british culture and heritage and replace it a mutated and corrupted British culture will one day mean going for a good curry at the local stoning arena

this is why all good British folk who value their identity must stand up and reject the multicultural extremism of the left

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 

So you are a migrant from a different culture are you not?

GOTCHA!!!!!!

knew you would take the bait because you're too stupid to think things through

I have a judeo-christian heritage same as UK

I celebrate Easter and Christmas same as the UK

i come from a democratic background same as the UK

SA is part of the commonwealth

SA fought on the side of the allies during both world wars

there is even a statue of Mandela in London

so culturally and historically im already starting from a point of perfect compatibility, from my arrival in the UK i started adding British customs to what was my culture so now with all the additional cultural elements ive added, id say im more British than south African culturally

oh wait, you're right after all

i forgot, i do call a BBQ - a braai

look how multicultural i am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

so what you have shown didge is that immigrants from compatible cultural backgrounds don't automatically create a multicultural society since they aren't culturally different enough to contribute any cultural practices.

in fact the very word "multicultural" is self defeating and proves that its only the leftwing who subscribe to this nonsense

the reality is that every country and society only has a single culture, that culture is made up from the beliefs, fetishes, practices,superstitions,customs, history and heritage of the people living there as well as some foreign cultural elements

the reason foreign practices and culture elements creep in and then become part of that culture, is due to simple plagiarism.

we love a good curry but we don't love a good ISLAMIC stoning or a bit of FGM

unfortunately the left have socially engineered and tampered with the natural order of things and instead of the host culture being allowed to pick and choose the foreign cultural practices it WANTS to integrate, the left are essentially raping and mutilating British culture, altering it and forcing it to integrate foreign cultures that are incompatible and poisonous,

the ultimate desire of the left is of course to eliminate all traces of fundamental british culture and heritage and replace it a mutated and corrupted British culture will one day mean going for a good curry at the local stoning arena

this is why all good British folk who value their identity must stand up and reject the multicultural extremism of the left    




 

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PMSL so now Afrikaan is very much like the English culture?

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They follow the reformed Church of Holland as well, yep thats the same, not.

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I suppose you will be telling me the language is the same next.

Thanks for the epic laugh

 ::D::

no such thing as "afrikaan" you have just made that up

this is why no one takes you seriously, you're arguing about culture and you're so ignorant of actual cultural differences that you cannot even get the basics correct

smelly_bandit wrote:no such thing as "afrikaan" you have just made that up

this is why no one takes you seriously, you're arguing about culture and you're so ignorant of actual cultural differences that you cannot even get the basics correct

So there is no language called Afrikaans now?

Really


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By the way multiculturalism is made up of many cultures, not just some Muslim ones dummy, hence why you fail to even understand it.

Nobody takes you serious, because you are a far right fuckwit. but I enjoy playing with you

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:no such thing as "afrikaan" you have just made that up

this is why no one takes you seriously, you're arguing about culture and you're so ignorant of actual cultural differences that you cannot even get the basics correct

So there is no language called Afrikaans now?

Really


 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 


By the way multiculturalism is made up of many cultures, not just some Muslim ones dummy, hence why you fail to even understand it.

Nobody takes you serious, because you are a far right fuckwit. but I enjoy playing with you  

you were not talking about the language but rather the people who speak it

a bit of education didge

the people you're ignorantly trying to talk about are not called "an afrikaan" they are called afrikaaners

"an afrikaan" is your stupidity and ignorance shining through, your fumbling attempt to sound educated, a shot in the dark that has missed the mark

if you are going to talk about them, the least you can do is have the common decency and respect to get the basics correct

for someone who claims to love different cultures, you have just shown a remarkable degree of cultural insensitivity

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:

So there is no language called Afrikaans now?

Really


 ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: 


By the way multiculturalism is made up of many cultures, not just some Muslim ones dummy, hence why you fail to even understand it.

Nobody takes you serious, because you are a far right fuckwit. but I enjoy playing with you  

you were not talking about the language but rather the people who speak it

a bit of education didge

the people you're ignorantly trying to talk about are not called "an afrikaan" they are called afrikaaners

"an afrikaan" is your stupidity and ignorance shining through, your fumbling attempt to sound educated, a shot in the dark that has missed the mark  

if you are going to talk about them, the least you can do is have the common decency and respect to get the basics correct

for someone who claims to love different cultures, you have just shown a remarkable degree of cultural insensitivity

So you do not speak Afrikaans then, how odd indeed, you need to make your mind up, but the point is we speak English here, thus the cultures are different, also religious views within South Africa are again more strict than in England by far.

The fact as seen you stupidly equate Multiculturalism solely to Muslim cultures, which is daft and many get on with me here smelly, which shows again how desperate a hate preacher such as yourself is, most of us just look at you with pity that you were a by-product of apartheid teaching, that basically you were indoctrinated from a young age with racial bullshit.

Never mind chap, one day the penny will drop how silly you are

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

you were not talking about the language but rather the people who speak it

a bit of education didge

the people you're ignorantly trying to talk about are not called "an afrikaan" they are called afrikaaners

"an afrikaan" is your stupidity and ignorance shining through, your fumbling attempt to sound educated, a shot in the dark that has missed the mark  

if you are going to talk about them, the least you can do is have the common decency and respect to get the basics correct

for someone who claims to love different cultures, you have just shown a remarkable degree of cultural insensitivity

So you do not speak Afrikaans then, how odd indeed, you need to make your mind up, but the point is we speak English here, thus the cultures are different, also religious views within South Africa are again more strict than in England by far.

The fact as seen you stupidly equate Multiculturalism solely to Muslim cultures, which is daft and many get on with me here smelly, which shows again how desperate a hate preacher such as yourself is, most of us just look at you with pity that you were a by-product of apartheid teaching, that basically you were indoctrinated from a young age with racial bullshit.

Never mind chap, one day the penny will drop how silly you are

never claimed to be from an Afrikaans ancestry didge, Afrikaans is my SECOND language taught to me at school, not spoken from birth

that was you and your little buddies who invented my background

secondly language is irrelevant in regards to culture you mong.

Germans and English do not share the same language and yet in the trenches of WWI they both celebrated Christmas and had a game of football

so please explain how a language barrier automatically equates to different CULTURES

bottom line is there are no multicultural societies in the world,there is only plagiarism

you can keep going on all you want about "multiculturalism" but FGM,stoning for adultery and honour kilings will never be part of British society no matter how hard you try to force it on us

we will ALWAYS reject it

because the host culture chooses what it wants to integrate

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


So you do not speak Afrikaans then, how odd indeed, you need to make your mind up, but the point is we speak English here, thus the cultures are different, also religious views within South Africa are again more strict than in England by far.

The fact as seen you stupidly equate Multiculturalism solely to Muslim cultures, which is daft and many get on with me here smelly, which shows again how desperate a hate preacher such as yourself is, most of us just look at you with pity that you were a by-product of apartheid teaching, that basically you were indoctrinated from a young age with racial bullshit.

Never mind chap, one day the penny will drop how silly you are

never claimed to be from an Afrikaans ancestry didge, Afrikaans is my SECOND language taught to me at school, not spoken from birth

that was you and your little buddies who invented my background

secondly language is irrelevant in regards to culture you mong.

Germans and English do not share the same language and yet in the trenches of WWI they both celebrated Christmas and had a game of football

so please explain how a language barrier automatically equates to different CULTURES

bottom line is there are no multicultural societies in the world,there is only plagiarism

you can keep going on all you want about "multiculturalism" but FGM,stoning for adultery and honour kilings will never be part of British society no matter how hard you try to force it on us

we will ALWAYS reject it  

because the host culture chooses what it wants to integrate

Fuck me, that made me laugh, yes they played football then continued to kill each other after and were even shelled on by their own officers. Yes tell me how this great culture link was when Waffen SS troops in WW2 shot unarmed British Soldiers smelly?
Sorry you really come out with some right bullshit, but it is entertaining.
Well for one languages being different is a barrier if you cannot understand each other, you thus have to learn each others language and culture. Germany has a culture difference to the English, which is evidently seen throughout the 20th century in both wars actually, for one their obedience to commands, but hey ho history is not one of your strong points

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

never claimed to be from an Afrikaans ancestry didge, Afrikaans is my SECOND language taught to me at school, not spoken from birth

that was you and your little buddies who invented my background

secondly language is irrelevant in regards to culture you mong.

Germans and English do not share the same language and yet in the trenches of WWI they both celebrated Christmas and had a game of football

so please explain how a language barrier automatically equates to different CULTURES

bottom line is there are no multicultural societies in the world,there is only plagiarism

you can keep going on all you want about "multiculturalism" but FGM,stoning for adultery and honour kilings will never be part of British society no matter how hard you try to force it on us

we will ALWAYS reject it  

because the host culture chooses what it wants to integrate

Fuck me, that made me laugh, yes they played football then continued to kill each other after and were even shelled on by their own officers. Yes tell me how this great culture link was when Waffen SS troops in WW2 shot unarmed British Soldiers smelly?
Sorry you really come out with some right bullshit, but it is entertaining.
Well for one languages being different is a barrier if you cannot understand each other, you thus have to learn each others language and culture. Germany has a culture difference to the English, which is evidently seen throughout the 20th century in both wars actually, for one their obedience to commands, but hey ho history is not one of your strong points

look at didge desperately brushing over the common sharing of Christmas and football

these CULTURAL elements where common in spite of a language barrier

your logic is that language presents an automatic cultural difference

which means that an English speaking Welshman should have a different culture to a Walsh speaking Welshman

do you even understand what culture is

you fucking retard

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smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


Fuck me, that made me laugh, yes they played football then continued to kill each other after and were even shelled on by their own officers. Yes tell me how this great culture link was when Waffen SS troops in WW2 shot unarmed British Soldiers smelly?
Sorry you really come out with some right bullshit, but it is entertaining.
Well for one languages being different is a barrier if you cannot understand each other, you thus have to learn each others language and culture. Germany has a culture difference to the English, which is evidently seen throughout the 20th century in both wars actually, for one their obedience to commands, but hey ho history is not one of your strong points

look at didge desperately brushing over the common sharing of Christmas and football

these CULTURAL elements where common in spite of a language barrier

your logic is that language presents an automatic cultural difference

which means that an English speaking Welshman should have a different culture to a Walsh speaking Welshman  

do you even understand what culture is

you fucking retard

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No it shows how idiotic you are because this actually only happened with some trenches, most did not even exchange anything, thus showing you hinge a view on the out of the ordinary, which is why I keep laughing at your absurd replies, even more so you think Multiculturalism only is about Muslims.

So why did not many of the others share this connection of football and Christmas smelly?
What is even more funny is how for example the British in the main viewed the Germans as the dirty Hun, raping and murdering women, but then again as stated your knowledge of history is so poor it really is embarrassing

Hilarious, why you are such a simpleton really and now you claim English speaking welshman are different to welsh speaking?

One moment:

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Fucking priceless, need to put that as my signature

please do put it into your signature didge

its the result of your own logic - which is that a language barrier automatically creates a cultural disconnect

its doesn't

so back to the question

what do migrants have to do with leftwing multiculturalism??

PS you're getting overexcited again didge, you didnt read what i said about the Welshmen properly

tee hee

smelly_bandit wrote:please do put it into your signature didge

its the result of your own logic - which is that a language barrier automatically creates a cultural disconnect

its doesn't

so back to the question

what do migrants have to do with leftwing multiculturalism??

PS you're getting overexcited again didge, you didnt read what i said about the Welshmen properly

tee hee

I will as English is not the first language of the Welsh, it has become though through conquest of the Welsh, but yet again history is not one of your strong points.

I just love how stupid you are.

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:

PMSL, are you a migrant to this country?

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

  

SAYS IT ALL,  really,  for smellybum's proclaimed "expert" knowledge of his subject !

point in case

dave AKA lone wolf likes to go walking around in the bush naked as the day he was born

he speaks English so there is no language barriers but has a very different cultural outlook,

naked bush walking very weird, i doubt it will take off in the UK

so you see, that even though dave speaks the language and comes from a similar background, his cultural practice of nudebushwalking is rejected by British culture

sorry daveyboy its just too weird

Lone Wolf wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

yes and??

this is getting painful

what do migrants have to do with multiculturalism

  

SAYS IT ALL,  really,  for smellybum's proclaimed "expert" knowledge of his subject !

It does indeed, but the best entertainment on this thread for sheer stupidity!

Didge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:please do put it into your signature didge

its the result of your own logic - which is that a language barrier automatically creates a cultural disconnect

its doesn't

so back to the question

what do migrants have to do with leftwing multiculturalism??

PS you're getting overexcited again didge, you didnt read what i said about the Welshmen properly

tee hee

I will as English is not the first language of the Welsh, it has become though through conquest of the Welsh, but yet again history is not one of your strong points.

I just love how stupid you are.

didge is getting distracted by the language issue

poor boy try to stay focused on the issue which is CULTURE not language

culture culture culture didge

focus for fuck sakes, you're ruing the thread

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


I will as English is not the first language of the Welsh, it has become though through conquest of the Welsh, but yet again history is not one of your strong points.

I just love how stupid you are.

didge is getting distracted by the language issue

poor boy try to stay focused on the issue which is CULTURE not language

culture culture culture didge

focus for fuck sakes, you're ruing the thread

I love how you always talk in the third person, clearly a sign of a mental disorder really.


Fuck me again how stupid, languages are very much part of cultures dummy.



Language and culture
It has been seen that language is much more than the external expression and communication of internal thoughts formulated independently of their verbalization. In demonstrating the inadequacy and inappropriateness of such a view of language, attention has already been drawn to the ways in which one’s mother tongue is intimately and in all sorts of details related to the rest of one’s life in a community and to smaller groups within that community. This is true of all peoples and all languages; it is a universal fact about language

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/329791/language/27179/Language-and-culture


DOH

I am going out for some lunch, maybe smelly you might post something intelligent for a change

Good luck

what the fuck are you smoking??? ::D:: 

this stupidity brings us back to the two Welshmen

do you believe that an English speaking Welshman has a different culture to a welsh speaking Welshman??

simple question didge

Didge wrote:I am going out for some lunch, maybe smelly you might post something intelligent for a change

Good luck

there it is

your big announcement that you have to go

translation : need to contact rest of left mclunatic clan for help

smelly_bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:I am going out for some lunch, maybe smelly you might post something intelligent for a change

Good luck

there it is

your big announcement that you have to go

translation : need to contact rest of left mclunatic clan for help

No just need food and again you copout of the debate with lame responses as seen.

I do not email people for help like you do sunshine ha ha.

How is Robert by the way?

smelly_bandit wrote:what the fuck are you smoking??? ::D:: 

this stupidity brings us back to the two Welshmen

do you believe that an English speaking Welshman has a different culture to a welsh speaking Welshman??

simple question didge

Fucking hilarious, the Welshman language and culture are welsh, the English being adapted.

Fuck me you are fucking stupid, but hours of fun