Golden Gate Bridge Suicide Net Plan Gets Boost

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It is hoped a net made of stainless steel cable extending below and from the side of the span will save hundreds of lives.

Officials say they have funds to build a suicide-prevention net at San Francisco Bay's Golden Gate Bridge where two jump to their deaths each month.

The bridge's board of directors will vote on Friday on the plan, which has been debated since the 1950s.

One of the obstacles - the price tag - fell away on Monday as officials announced they had $76m (£45m) for the project.

Most of the new money comes from federal transport programmes, while the rest will be paid out of the bridge's own reserves and state mental health funding.

The bridge district's plan calls for a net made of stainless steel cable extending 20ft below and 20ft from the side of the span.

Anyone who jumps from the span might be injured but would probably survive the fall, say officials.

"For whatever reason, suicidal people don't want to hurt themselves," Dennis Mulligan, the bridge district's general manager, told KTVU-TV.

"At other locations where nets have been up no individual has jumped into the net."

More than 1,400 people have leapt to their deaths from the 4,200-ft suspension bridge since it opened in 1937.

Every year, scores of people contemplating suicide are coaxed not to jump from the span.

On average, there are two suicides a month at the structure.

The Bridge Rail Foundation, which tracks fatalities on the span, said 46 people committed suicide there last year.

Backers of the suicide net were boosted in 2012 when President Barack Obama signed a transportation bill allowing federal funds to flow to the project.

http://news.sky.com/story/1288528/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-net-plan-gets-boost

Good idea, if people want to kill themselves they don't want to do something that will hurt them but not kill them, so it sounds logical.

I started the whole thread that for a very personal reason suicide upsets me, and like Lovey, I saw a programme about suicide on the GG Bridge.   If you hadn't done your great big know it all, I'm the fount of all wisdom act Quim, none of this would have happened.   However, as it has, it's shown you for the liar you are.

Original Quill wrote:

Joy Division wrote:

Nems wrote:

Balls when you saw Irn had a bigger one  (security Clearance) Quill got gibbed.
You are always in hot pursuit of  some man. Just now the poor bastard lucky chap is Irn

OMFG!!this is like Eastenders tonight!!!

So are you saying Nems that Sassy is hunting for men?, even though she has one of her own?... ::smthg:: 

This is fcuking awesome!!!!!  

But I think  it's bullshit!!...you have proof then Nems?

Considering Sassy,s ill health, she must really be keen and so energetic to be looking for a man!!, even though she has one!

I think Nems has hit it on the head:

Nems wrote:Is there no detail you wont post? Why for Gods sake? Have some sodding dignity, Why do you do it? Sympathy ? Attention? Then if someone comments in a manner you dont like all sodding hell breaks out

Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Am I right in saying it was important that President Obama be elected in 2008, in order for the passage of Moving Ahead for Progress-21, that makes the June 27th resolution possible?   Before, the construction of the project was not eligible for federal transportation funding, and certainly now with the present House of Representatives there is no chance of passage.  There would never have been any federal money available if John McCain or Mitt Romney had been president.

I had this issue out with Nancy Pelosi's office back when she was Speaker of the House of Representatives, and wanted to take control of our revenue during the retrofit.  (Even the Federal Government cannot impose tolls without a license, and we have the license.)

So now we know that  federal monies are involved, in addition to Cal Trans and GGBHTD.  Are we now saying that bridge toll control is crucial to the issue of suicide barriers?  Or is this more cow?

You are doing the same thing, sass.  Only now you are going wild on the PM lines, recruiting Stephen and Lovedust, in addition to your crony, Irn Bru.  The whole sassy posse is alive with the creation of this thread.  Almost half of them have shown up.

For sure, hospital time means stalking time for old sassy.  Musta been boring in there.   

Cut it out with the crony reference to me. I provided the link to the agenda and I did it in good faith as evidence that the suicide prevention project was set to go ahead and that with the funding now in place that the plan to proceed with the project would be approved at the Board of Directors meeting tomorrow morning. You had access to the link just like everyone else had.

http://goldengate.org/board/2014/agendas/bd06.27.14a.php

So if I were you Quill I would swot up on it real fast as no doubt your attendance will be required tomorrow morning. After all, you have missed the last two board meetings that I know of because whilst they were taking place you were busy posting away on here at the same time. I noticed that then but said nothing but when I see you starting again to try in some way to characterise me as some sort of lackey for someone else then I will speak out.

To be a good con man you have to have a brain and think of things like that. He's been caught out over and over again without even realising it.

Sassy wrote:I started the whole thread that for a very personal reason suicide upsets me, and like Lovey, I saw a programme about suicide on the GG Bridge.   If you hadn't done your great big know it all, I'm the fount of all wisdom act Quim, none of this would have happened.   However, as it has, it's shown you for the liar you are.

Sorry Sassy, but that makes little sense, if a subject mattered to you, then surely you would stick to that topic, when clearly it has digressed some what.


Reading through it does seem to be a point scoring thread from many sides, not exactly one where concern is shown over suicide.

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think Nems has hit it on the head:



Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Oh don't tell me, Quim is running again like the coward he is. Proof positive.

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think Nems has hit it on the head:



Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Out of interest why did you Irn?

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think Nems has hit it on the head:



Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Irn, you display excellent skills elsewhere. Don't waste your good reputation on the sassy posse. Leave the grunt work to LD, JD and the others.

You've put in your appearance. Don't waste your time.

Didge wrote:

Sassy wrote:I started the whole thread that for a very personal reason suicide upsets me, and like Lovey, I saw a programme about suicide on the GG Bridge.   If you hadn't done your great big know it all, I'm the fount of all wisdom act Quim, none of this would have happened.   However, as it has, it's shown you for the liar you are.

Sorry Sassy, but that makes little sense, if a subject mattered to you, then surely you would stick to that topic, when clearly it has digressed some what.


Reading through it does seem to be a point scoring thread from many sides, not exactly one where concern is shown over suicide.

I stuck to the subject until Quim said it wouldn't happen and Irn had already found the Agenda that said it would. Quim has told us over and over he is a Director of the company, so it made no sense him saying that finance didn't matter and it wasn't going to happen for engineering reasons, when the engineering reasons had been sorted and agreed by Directors years ago and they were now holding a meeting to finalise the financial reasons. That was about the subject. If Quim hadn't said it wasn't going to happen, the rest would never have to spoken about.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think Nems has hit it on the head:



Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Out of interest why did you Irn?

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

Sassy wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Haha...no, ironically I have an emergency transit meeting.  Nothing to do with anything here, but transit-related nonetheless.

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Oh don't tell me, Quim is running again like the coward he is.   Proof positive.

No, actually I have an emergency transit meeting. Lol. Nothing to do with the subject here, but nonetheless a transit matter.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Out of interest why did you Irn?

FGS! Because it showed it was going ahead, which pleased all of us except Quim.

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:

Sorry Sassy, but that makes little sense, if a subject mattered to you, then surely you would stick to that topic, when clearly it has digressed some what.


Reading through it does seem to be a point scoring thread from many sides, not exactly one where concern is shown over suicide.

I stuck to the subject until Quim said it wouldn't happen and Irn had already found the Agenda that said it would.   Quim has told us over and over he is a Director of the company, so it made no sense him saying that finance didn't matter and it wasn't going to happen for engineering reasons, when the engineering reasons had been sorted and agreed by Directors years ago and they were now holding a meeting to finalise the financial reasons.   That was about the subject.   If Quim hadn't said it wasn't going to happen, the rest would never have to spoken about.  

But that is the point, you have not stuck to the subject and all the middle and later posts have had nothing to do with suicide but point scoring from both sides.
As to your point on what was agreed years ago, things always change an constantly change, so I fail to see how that is evidence of fraud.
Anyway, as seen this really has little to do with suicide, if it did people would get it back on track

Thankfully, as it will be financed and will be going ahead, there should be no more suicides when it is finished, for which many will be grateful.

Original Quill wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I think Nems has hit it on the head:



Sassy started this whole thread in order to start a fight.  Why?  Well, the answer lies in something that Nems pointed to: sympathy or attention.

Now that sassy has embarrassed herself, she wants to play the victim.  She has been hurt by something she brought up: her own hospitalization.  (Which she brought up to pose as a victim in the first place.)  You are here, JD, because you are a loyal sassy posse groupie.  

Now that that's straight, I'll be off.   

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Irn, you display excellent skills elsewhere.  Don't waste your good reputation on the sassy posse.  Leave the grunt work to LD, JD and the others.  

You've put in your appearance.  Don't waste your time.

I don't need your advice Quill and I'm quite capable of making my own decisions.

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:


Out of interest why did you Irn?

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

Hmmmm, positive is a loose term, to something that has little to do with suicides Irn.
Do you have yesterdays?

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:


Out of interest why did you Irn?

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

C'mon Irn.  You published an agenda about finance, because you were interested in an engineering project?  That's about as phoney an excuse as you can find.

It was obviously because Sass PM'ed you and recruited you to the thread...same as LD and JD.  She was cookin' a clan meetin'.  Lol.  You wisely dropped out, but she has pulled you back in.  Your first instinct is your best.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:


Out of interest why did you Irn?

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

Hmmmm, positive is a loose term, to something that has little to do with suicides Irn.
Do you have yesterdays?

It had everything to do with suicides and the link provided set out the plan to prevent them. Is that a negative then?

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

Hmmmm, positive is a loose term, to something that has little to do with suicides Irn.
Do you have yesterdays?

It had everything to do with suicides and the link provided set out the plan to prevent them. Is that a negative then?

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

Original Quill wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

C'mon Irn.  You published an agenda about finance, because you were interested in an engineering project?  That's about as phoney an excuse as you can find.

It was obviously because Sass PM'ed you and recruited you to the thread...same as LD and JD.  She was cookin' a clan meetin'.  Lol.  You wisely dropped out, but she has pulled you back in.  Your first instinct is your best.

I did not PM Irn, and what he found was the Agenda to the funding details of letting the safety net, that had already been agreed go ahead.   You have no shame, you have been proved outright to be a liar, you are not a Director or you would have known that the project had been agreed and all they were doing was finalising the funding, so carry on Quim, you can wiggle but the truth is out there.   You are a liar, and probably the biggest one on the net.

Thankfully the safety net is going ahead and lives will be saved and the Directors, the real ones, don't give a flying fuck what you think.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

It had everything to do with suicides and the link provided set out the plan to prevent them. Is that a negative then?

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

The whole Agenda is setting up the funding for the net that has been agreed to stop suicides.

Original Quill wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:


Out of interest why did you Irn?

Because I wanted to know if it was likely that the project would proceed and I knew where to look for up to date information.

What I posted was the result of what I found and a positive contribution to the discussion.

C'mon Irn.  You published an agenda about finance, because you were interested in an engineering project?  That's about as phoney an excuse as you can find.

It was obviously because Sass PM'ed you and recruited you to the thread...same as LD and JD.  She was cookin' a clan meetin'.  Lol.  You wisely dropped out, but she has pulled you back in.  Your first instinct is your best.

Without finance there would be no engineering project and no suicide prevention measures put in place on the bridge.

Don't be silly, you just didn't know about the agenda in the first place and you haven't attended any of the last two board meetings either.

And if you have nothing else then you can always fall back on the Sassy posse routine and PMs.

Get real Quill and get swotting up - you haven't got much time left.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

Hmmmm, positive is a loose term, to something that has little to do with suicides Irn.
Do you have yesterdays?

It had everything to do with suicides and the link provided set out the plan to prevent them. Is that a negative then?

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

Which part did I highlight?

Original Quill wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

She started this thread as it is a legitimate subject for discussion. She didn't post the link to the agenda for the meeting of the Directors - I did.

Irn, you display excellent skills elsewhere. Don't waste your good reputation on the sassy posse. Leave the grunt work to LD, JD and the others.

You've put in your appearance. Don't waste your time.

Quill: this an upsetting topic for several members. You've already falsely accused me of being called into this topic by pm in order to gang up on you (apparently missing that that's nonsensical given I started posting in this thread well before you). Now you refer to my contributions as "grunt work".

I'm asking you nicely to stop patronising me and stop being rude.

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

Which part did I highlight?

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Which part did I highlight?

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Then I suggest you read the link. The Project had already been agreed, all they are doing tomorrow is rubberstamping the finalised funding.

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

Which part did I highlight?

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Sorry Didge, which part did I highlight>

It just needs to be signed off tomorrow.

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Sorry Didge, which part did I highlight>

It just needs to be signed off tomorrow.

That is the point you did not highlight anything.


Nothing has been agreed:



On Friday, June 27, 2014, Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District’s Board of Directors will meet to consider approving a funding plan for the Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project in the amount of $76,000,000. This decision would come with the understanding that the project will be funded with $22,000,000 of federal Local Highway Bridge Program (HBP) funds programmed by Caltrans, $27,000,000 of federal Surface Transportation Program (STP) funds programmed by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission (MTC), $7,000,000 of California Mental Health Service Act Funds (Proposition 63), and $20,000,000 from District reserves.

http://goldengate.org/news/bridge/sds_fundingplan.php

All you have provided Irn is a proposed document, which if they approve they will sign up to, that does not mean they have.

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Then I suggest you read the link.   The Project had already been agreed, all they are doing tomorrow is rubberstamping the finalised funding.

Clearly I did read and see nothing has been approved

So clearly people have taken a proposed document as if something has been agreed, when it has not and thus then badly used this to try and shame Quill, when as seen it was Quill that was correct.

Hey ho

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

That is my point.

From what I understand nothing has been agreed upon yet.

Sorry Didge, which part did I highlight>

It just needs to be signed off tomorrow.

That is the point you did not highlight anything.


Nothing has been agreed:



On Friday, June 27, 2014, Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District’s Board of Directors will meet to consider approving a funding plan for the Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project in the amount of $76,000,000. This decision would come with the understanding that the project will be funded with $22,000,000 of federal Local Highway Bridge Program (HBP) funds programmed by Caltrans, $27,000,000 of federal Surface Transportation Program (STP) funds programmed by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission (MTC), $7,000,000 of California Mental Health Service Act Funds (Proposition 63), and $20,000,000 from District reserves.

http://goldengate.org/news/bridge/sds_fundingplan.php

Sorry Didge - you said...

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

You see, I didn't highlight anything but now I've done something wrong by not highlighting something. That's new one lol

The whole content contained within the link I provided is all about suicides. I think you should read it Didge - all of it.

And if you look back at the posts on here Sassy made a perfectly responsible post on the subject which Quill tried to rubbish as nonsense - go read it - it's on page 1.

Now sassy, I don't wish to fall out with you nor get involved in this row that's not mine, but it could be argued that you lied about those Pm's - saying you never recognised them then when Irn admitted his were real, changing your mind.

We all have lapses of memory.
Perhaps we should be tolerant of them.

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

That is the point you did not highlight anything.


Nothing has been agreed:



On Friday, June 27, 2014, Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District’s Board of Directors will meet to consider approving a funding plan for the Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project in the amount of $76,000,000. This decision would come with the understanding that the project will be funded with $22,000,000 of federal Local Highway Bridge Program (HBP) funds programmed by Caltrans, $27,000,000 of federal Surface Transportation Program (STP) funds programmed by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission (MTC), $7,000,000 of California Mental Health Service Act Funds (Proposition 63), and $20,000,000 from District reserves.

http://goldengate.org/news/bridge/sds_fundingplan.php

Sorry Didge - you said...

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

You see, I didn't highlight anything but now I've done something wrong by not highlighting something. That's new one lol

The whole content contained within the link I provided is all about suicides. I think you should read it Didge - all of it.

And if you look back at the posts on here Sassy made a perfectly responsible post on the subject which Quill tried to rubbish as nonsense - go read it - it's on page 1.

That is the point, you did not highlight anything.


I read it before I posted on here Irn, where again nothing has been agreed, this is just a proposal by 4 people, none of which are directors themselves, but no doubt who are pro having this done.
So Sassy did not get anything right

Didge wrote:So clearly people have taken a proposed document as if something has been agreed, when it has not and thus then badly used this to try and shame Quill, when as seen it was Quill that was correct.

Hey ho

The Board have agreed with the plan to install a suicide prevention net - it's the right thing to do, they said. No-one has said that the funding has been agreed on and it's quite clear in the post that the document is there to be signed off tomorrow. No-one has said otherwise Didge. Wait and see.

eddie wrote:Now sassy, I don't wish to fall out with you nor get involved in this row that's not mine, but it could be argued that you lied about those Pm's - saying you never recognised them then when Irn admitted his were real, changing your mind.

We all have lapses of memory.
Perhaps we should be tolerant of them.

What the hell are you on about. Quill told us on Speak a long time ago he was a Director of the GG Bridge. Quill then said that the net would not go ahead because of engineering problems and money wasn't an issue. The Agenda gives the dates that the Directors agreed that the net should go ahead and the reasons why, and have been discussing funding, which has now been agreed and will be finalised tomorrow. A Director would have known that, not argued against it happening, and not being surprised when the Agenda was found and call it 'cow' when it gets to the heart of every problem to so with the setting up of the net, the reasons why they agreed it and the fact they will be signing off the funding tomorrow..

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:So clearly people have taken a proposed document as if something has been agreed, when it has not and thus then badly used this to try and shame Quill, when as seen it was Quill that was correct.

Hey ho

The Board have agreed with the plan to install a suicide prevention net - it's the right thing to do, they said. No-one has said that the funding has been agreed on and it's quite clear in the post that the document is there to be signed off tomorrow. No-one has said otherwise Didge. Wait and see.

They have not agreed to anything.
The document is a proposal, have you never been to meetings where proposals are made?
You even elude to the fact it has not been agreed in your statement above and you are only going off the proposed document

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

That is the point you did not highlight anything.


Nothing has been agreed:



On Friday, June 27, 2014, Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District’s Board of Directors will meet to consider approving a funding plan for the Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project in the amount of $76,000,000. This decision would come with the understanding that the project will be funded with $22,000,000 of federal Local Highway Bridge Program (HBP) funds programmed by Caltrans, $27,000,000 of federal Surface Transportation Program (STP) funds programmed by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission (MTC), $7,000,000 of California Mental Health Service Act Funds (Proposition 63), and $20,000,000 from District reserves.

http://goldengate.org/news/bridge/sds_fundingplan.php

Sorry Didge - you said...

The part you highlighted had to do with suicides?

You see, I didn't highlight anything but now I've done something wrong by not highlighting something. That's new one lol

The whole content contained within the link I provided is all about suicides. I think you should read it Didge - all of it.

And if you look back at the posts on here Sassy made a perfectly responsible post on the subject which Quill tried to rubbish as nonsense - go read it - it's on page 1.

That is the point, you did not highlight anything.


I read it before I posted on here Irn, where again nothing has been agreed, this is just a proposal by 4 people, none of which are directors themselves, but no doubt who are pro having this done.
So Sassy did not get anything right

Stop it Didge. I've highlighted what you have said above which is so ridiculous it's making me laugh.

So having read all the content on here, what exactly did she get wrong?

I hope they do agree, but you are jumping the gun big time Irn

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:


That is the point, you did not highlight anything.


I read it before I posted on here Irn, where again nothing has been agreed, this is just a proposal by 4 people, none of which are directors themselves, but no doubt who are pro having this done.
So Sassy did not get anything right

Stop it Didge. I've highlighted what you have said above which is so  ridiculous it's making me laugh.

So having read all the content on here, what exactly did she get wrong?

I am sure you find a proposal laughable, I do as well, when it is not agreed upon.

Sorry but you did a big gaff there

Didge wrote:I hope they do agree, but you are jumping the gun big time Irn

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact
Report/Environmental Assessment for the
Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent
System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative. In June 2011 the
Board awarded a professional services agreement for the final design of the Project. In February
2014 the consultant delivered to the District the 95 percent complete plans and specifications.
Staff is reviewing these documents and is developing, with the assistance of the consultant and District attorneys, construction bid documents.
During this time period the Board of Directors and staff have been working closely with regional, state and federal officials to pursue a variety of different funding options. Typically the District’s construction contracts are principally funded with federal transportation dollars along with a local match.
Two years ago, the construction of the Project
was not eligible for federal transportation funding.
This changed when MAP - 21, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act (P.L. 112 - 141), was signed into law by President Obama on July 6, 2012.

Sassy wrote:

eddie wrote:Now sassy, I don't wish to fall out with you nor get involved in this row that's not mine, but it could be argued that you lied about those Pm's - saying you never recognised them then when Irn admitted his were real, changing your mind.

We all have lapses of memory.
Perhaps we should be tolerant of them.

What the hell are you on about.   Quill told us on Speak a long time ago he was a Director of the GG Bridge.   Quill then said that the net would not go ahead because of engineering problems and money wasn't an issue.   The Agenda gives the dates that the Directors agreed that the net should go ahead and the reasons why, and have been discussing funding, which has now been agreed and will be finalised tomorrow.   A Director would have known that, not argued against it happening, and not being surprised when the Agenda was found and call it 'cow' when it gets to the heart of every problem to so with the setting up of the net, the reasons why they agreed it and the fact they will be signing off the funding tomorrow..

I've read the thread.
My point was this:

We can all look like liars if we forget things or post a wrong word here or there.

Oh and another point:
Quill didn't call you a liar when you said you didn't, then you did, (after Irn's admission), remember those pms.


Just saying as I think it's best to be fair.

I neither know nor care about meetings, logistics, minutes nor money.
It's all irrelevant.

I hope that deaths are much less because of the net and more lives are saved.

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:I hope they do agree, but you are jumping the gun big time Irn

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact
Report/Environmental Assessment for the
Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent
System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative. In June 2011 the
Board awarded a professional services agreement for the final design of the Project. In February
2014 the consultant delivered to the District the 95 percent complete plans and specifications.
Staff is reviewing these documents and is developing, with the assistance of the consultant and District attorneys, construction bid documents.
During this time period the Board of Directors and staff have been working closely with regional, state and federal officials to pursue a variety of different funding options. Typically the District’s construction contracts are principally funded with federal transportation dollars along with a local match.
Two years ago, the construction of the Project
was not eligible for federal transportation funding.
This changed when MAP - 21, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act (P.L. 112 - 141), was signed into law by President Obama on July 6, 2012.

Still not agreed, but that thanks for proving it has little to do with suicides this whole debate.

lovedust wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Irn, you display excellent skills elsewhere.  Don't waste your good reputation on the sassy posse.  Leave the grunt work to LD, JD and the others.  

You've put in your appearance.  Don't waste your time.

Quill: this an upsetting topic for several members.

Not upsetting, Mogs.  Setting up.  When has anybody been interested in the Golden Gate Bridge until sassy, in her stalking of me, found that I was involved with the GGBHTD?  From that day forward there has been all of this activity and interest.

When sassy is feeling bored and low-down, she goes into her inventory of topics in order to uncover something with which to start a fight with someone.  She's been doing it back to ADO, and probably before.  Sassy needs attention, as Nems points out.  Sassy stalks, as Nems has also pointed out.  She does these things when she believes she is not getting enough attention.

Once she has made up her mind, she's on the PM to her posse to all show up and start something.  You are simply part of it, LD.  Everyone knows what is going on, and everyone knows you know.  Don't, like Irn, turn your palms up and say "Whaaaa...

Everyone knows what is going on.

eddie wrote:Now sassy, I don't wish to fall out with you nor get involved in this row that's not mine, but it could be argued that you lied about those Pm's - saying you never recognised them then when Irn admitted his were real, changing your mind.

We all have lapses of memory.
Perhaps we should be tolerant of them.

And just so you know Eddie, I pm'd Ben and said until I was absolutely sure the pm's were correct I would say they weren't, because I felt that they fact they had been hacked was being used to attack this site, and requested that Ben look into it for me.

Didge wrote:

Sassy wrote:

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact
Report/Environmental Assessment for the
Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent
System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative. In June 2011 the
Board awarded a professional services agreement for the final design of the Project. In February
2014 the consultant delivered to the District the 95 percent complete plans and specifications.
Staff is reviewing these documents and is developing, with the assistance of the consultant and District attorneys, construction bid documents.
During this time period the Board of Directors and staff have been working closely with regional, state and federal officials to pursue a variety of different funding options. Typically the District’s construction contracts are principally funded with federal transportation dollars along with a local match.
Two years ago, the construction of the Project
was not eligible for federal transportation funding.
This changed when MAP - 21, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act (P.L. 112 - 141), was signed into law by President Obama on July 6, 2012.

Still not agreed, but that thanks for proving it has little to do with suicides this whole debate.

What? The whole report was about stopping suicides!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didge wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:So clearly people have taken a proposed document as if something has been agreed, when it has not and thus then badly used this to try and shame Quill, when as seen it was Quill that was correct.

Hey ho

The Board have agreed with the plan to install a suicide prevention net - it's the right thing to do, they said. No-one has said that the funding has been agreed on and it's quite clear in the post that the document is there to be signed off tomorrow. No-one has said otherwise Didge. Wait and see.

They have not agreed to anything.
The document is a proposal, have you never been to meetings where proposals are made?
You even elude to the fact it has not been agreed in your statement above and you are only going off the proposed document

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact Report/Environmental Assessment for the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative.

Some way on from that tomorrows meeting is to approve the funding for it. No-one has said otherwise. lol

You're clutching at straws Didge

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:


Still not agreed, but that thanks for proving it has little to do with suicides this whole debate.

What?   The whole report was about stopping suicides!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No I have just proven this debate was about Quill, I even offered to get this back on track about suicides and nobody even took that avenue.
What they did was desperately try to prove their point in regards to Quill using a proposal which has not been agreed upon.

Like I said, this debate has had little said about suicides itself

Original Quill wrote:

lovedust wrote:

Quill: this an upsetting topic for several members.

Not upsetting, Mogs.  Setting up.  When has anybody been interested in the Golden Gate Bridge until sassy, in her stalking of me, found that I was involved with the GGBHTD?  From that day forward there has been all of this activity and interest.

When sassy is feeling bored and low-down, she goes into her inventory of topics in order to uncover something with which to start a fight with someone.  She's been doing it back to ADO, and probably before.  Sassy needs attention, as Nems points out.  Sassy stalks, as Nems has alsw pointed out.  She does these things when she believes she is not getting enough attention.

Once she has made up her mind, she's on the PM to her posse to all show up and start something.  You are simply part of it, LD.  Everyone knows what is going on, and everyone knows you know.  Don't, like Irn, turn your palms up and say "Whaaaa...

Everyone knows what is going on.

Oh give it a rest you lying scum. You boasted about being a Director and about them sending a taxi for you to take you to a meeting because you were so important. It doesn't wash anymore Quim, we have seen right through you. The net will go ahead thank goodness, and you knew fuck all about it and thought that the very opposite of what was happening was going on. Con man.

Sassy wrote:

Didge wrote:

Sassy wrote:

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact
Report/Environmental Assessment for the
Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent
System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative. In June 2011 the
Board awarded a professional services agreement for the final design of the Project. In February
2014 the consultant delivered to the District the 95 percent complete plans and specifications.
Staff is reviewing these documents and is developing, with the assistance of the consultant and District attorneys, construction bid documents.
During this time period the Board of Directors and staff have been working closely with regional, state and federal officials to pursue a variety of different funding options. Typically the District’s construction contracts are principally funded with federal transportation dollars along with a local match.
Two years ago, the construction of the Project
was not eligible for federal transportation funding.
This changed when MAP - 21, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act (P.L. 112 - 141), was signed into law by President Obama on July 6, 2012.

Still not agreed, but that thanks for proving it has little to do with suicides this whole debate.

What?   The whole report was about stopping suicides!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course it is. If it isn't that then I'd like to know what else it may be about.

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote:

They have not agreed to anything.
The document is a proposal, have you never been to meetings where proposals are made?
You even elude to the fact it has not been agreed in your statement above and you are only going off the proposed document

On February 12, 2010 the Board of Directors certified the Final Environmental Impact Report/Environmental Assessment for the Golden Gate Bridge Physical Suicide Deterrent System Project with Alternative 3, the Net System, as the Preferred Alternative.

Some way on from that tomorrows meeting is to approve the funding for it. No-one has said otherwise. lol

You're clutching at straws Didge

No just ousting the real reason for this thread Irn.

I think you have just been exposed mate, sorry, this thread has as seen little or bugger all to do with the suicides, that was the point I started out and proved.