Scrounger

5th May 2014

Some people say this is a typical scrounger.

This thread is for the benefit of our foreign posters who don't understand our English use of the word scrounger - it doesn't mean all people on benefits - read below to understand it better.

Partying in rowdy bars, downing shots and pints of beer and gleefully clutching a bottle of pink champagne ... these are the holiday snaps of White Dee, one of the stars of controversial TV show Benefits Street.

Dee, whose real name is Deirdre Kelly, claims to be too depressed to go to work and lives off benefits as a result.

Yet here she is living the life of a party girl on an all-expenses-paid, mid-week trip to Magaluf in Majorca.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qNI3zHr

Aw,..it's great to see them being able to relax and be away from all that hatred, nastiness and jealousy

I hope she's investigated if she's lying.

BigAndy9 wrote:5th May 2014

Some people say this is a typical scrounger.

This thread is for the benefit of our foreign posters who don't understand our English use of the word scrounger - it doesn't mean all people on benefits - read below to understand it better.

Partying in rowdy bars, downing shots and pints of beer and gleefully clutching a bottle of pink champagne ... these are the holiday snaps of White Dee, one of the stars of controversial TV show Benefits Street.

Dee, whose real name is Deirdre Kelly, claims to be too depressed to go to work and lives off benefits as a result.

Yet here she is living the life of a party girl on an all-expenses-paid, mid-week trip to Magaluf in Majorca.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qNI3zHr

Seeing as you obviously know nothing about depression other than what you read in the Daily Mail as well as you saying agreeing with someone that only weak people take anti depressants,mi think you have no right to name this thread about ' scrounger' Andy, not to mention you saying Aspergers and Autism are all ' made up and in the head'...

You sound like an uneducated screaming wee laddie trying to get his own way Andy, and one of the worst ones I ever heard you say was when you were slagging g off a woman who was taking anti depressants because she lost a child, that was elsewhere and a wee while back...but I never forgot.

Raggamuffin wrote:I hope she's investigated if she's lying.

Well said Ragga, and made to pay it all back over 2,000 years.

BigAndy9 wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I hope she's investigated if she's lying.

Well said Ragga, and made to pay it all back over 2,000 years.

Yes - a penny at week at least.   

That woman could well be ill, Psychologically and a good night out can work as good as medicine, just listen to yourselves man, grudging her a night out.  

What a pair o' fish wives.  

Joy Division wrote:That woman could well be ill, Psychologically and a good night out can work as good as medicine, just listen to yourselves man, grudging her a night out.  

What a pair o' fish wives.  

A night out? In Majorca?

She's clearly not depressed or she couldn't have done that. If she's on antidepressants, they must be working, so she can get a job.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:That woman could well be ill, Psychologically and a good night out can work as good as medicine, just listen to yourselves man, grudging her a night out.  

What a pair o' fish wives.  

A night out? In Majorca?

She's clearly not depressed or she couldn't have done that. If she's on antidepressants, they must be working, so she can get a job.

Folk on benefits are allowed to go on holiday too you know, she could have got the money from another relative for all we know, it's becoming ridiculously sad that we scrutinise , judge and hound people because they are on benefits....and from many who themselves have most likely been long time benefit claimants!  

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

A night out? In Majorca?

She's clearly not depressed or she couldn't have done that. If she's on antidepressants, they must be working, so she can get a job.

Folk on benefits are allowed to go on holiday too you know, she could have got the money from another relative for all we know, it's becoming ridiculously sad that we scrutinise , judge and hound people because they are on benefits....and from many who themselves have most likely been long time benefit claimants!  

That's not the point. If she's getting benefits because she can't work because she's clinically depressed, then clearly she's cured, so she can get a job now.

Someone with depression which is severe can barely function, let alone go swanning off on holiday. If it's not severe, then she can take medication and get a job.

In this case, i'm quite sure the holiday is paid for by somebody else.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.

Onlooker Amy Balfour, 21, of Sevenoaks, Kent, said: ‘People pay taxes and save for holidays. She hasn’t done either.’  Dee became the face of Benefits Street, which pulled in more than five million viewers and attracted more than 1,000 complaints.

She revealed she receives benefits of £214 a week, but has since said she would stop claiming the money  if she started receiving an income, either because of the show or another job.

Although she worked as a barmaid, and was later a Birmingham City Council administrator, she left in disgrace after being convicted of stealing £13,000.

She narrowly avoided jail in 2007 and was ordered to carry out 220 hours of unpaid work.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qVnHXl4

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Folk on benefits are allowed to go on holiday too you know, she could have got the money from another relative for all we know, it's becoming ridiculously sad that we scrutinise , judge and hound people because they are on benefits....and from many who themselves have most likely been long time benefit claimants!  

That's not the point. If she's getting benefits because she can't work because she's clinically depressed, then clearly she's cured, so she can get a job now.

Someone with depression which is severe can barely function, let alone go swanning off on holiday. If it's not severe, then she can take medication and get a job.

...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's not the point. If she's getting benefits because she can't work because she's clinically depressed, then clearly she's cured, so she can get a job now.

Someone with depression which is severe can barely function, let alone go swanning off on holiday. If it's not severe, then she can take medication and get a job.

...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

I've heard being off work can cause depression, though i've never ever heard a benefits claimant, or liberal do-gooder say "often people with depression and even severe depression DO go to work Rags"

Weird that.

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's not the point. If she's getting benefits because she can't work because she's clinically depressed, then clearly she's cured, so she can get a job now.

Someone with depression which is severe can barely function, let alone go swanning off on holiday. If it's not severe, then she can take medication and get a job.

...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

Crap. If she's bad enough to not be able to work, she wouldn't be able to go on holiday in that manner either. Depression is not dependent on one's surroundings, it's a mental condition.

BigAndy9 wrote:In this case, i'm quite sure the holiday is paid for by somebody else.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.

Onlooker Amy Balfour, 21, of Sevenoaks, Kent, said: ‘People pay taxes and save for holidays. She hasn’t done either.’  Dee became the face of Benefits Street, which pulled in more than five million viewers and attracted more than 1,000 complaints.

She revealed she receives benefits of £214 a week, but has since said she would stop claiming the money  if she started receiving an income, either because of the show or another job.

Although she worked as a barmaid, and was later a Birmingham City Council administrator, she left in disgrace after being convicted of stealing £13,000.

She narrowly avoided jail in 2007 and was ordered to carry out 220 hours of unpaid work.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qVnHXl4

Your quite happy to let this lady entertain you on the big screen, mock her , label her a scrounger and now karma has came back to bite you lot of jealous haters in the arse as she is pictured having a good time...

So what is it you want?...oh!!...it's for her to still be reviled , despised etc isn't it?..but without the 'fame' ..which YOU helped make laddie.

I say nice one!!  

BigAndy9 wrote:

Joy Division wrote:



...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

I've heard being off work can cause depression, though i've never ever heard a benefits claimant, or liberal do-gooder say "often people with depression and even severe depression DO go to work Rags"

Weird that.

People with depression do indeed go to work, unless it's very severe, in which case they probably can't function. Of course they often take medication which will help a lot of them. People tend to ignore the medication issue, but drug companies wouldn't spend billions on bringing drugs to market which don't work.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:



...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

Crap. If she's bad enough to not be able to work, she wouldn't be able to go on holiday in that manner either. Depression is not dependent on one's surroundings, it's a mental condition.

Your well off the mark here, there are different levels of depression, hers may well be milder than others, in many cases like that ..a change of scenery has done the world of good for them as well as refreshing them.

Joy Division wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:In this case, i'm quite sure the holiday is paid for by somebody else.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.

Onlooker Amy Balfour, 21, of Sevenoaks, Kent, said: ‘People pay taxes and save for holidays. She hasn’t done either.’  Dee became the face of Benefits Street, which pulled in more than five million viewers and attracted more than 1,000 complaints.

She revealed she receives benefits of £214 a week, but has since said she would stop claiming the money  if she started receiving an income, either because of the show or another job.

Although she worked as a barmaid, and was later a Birmingham City Council administrator, she left in disgrace after being convicted of stealing £13,000.

She narrowly avoided jail in 2007 and was ordered to carry out 220 hours of unpaid work.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qVnHXl4

Your quite happy to let this lady entertain you on the big screen, mock her , label her a scrounger and now karma has came back to bite you lot of jealous haters in the arse as she is pictured having a good time...

So what is it you want?...oh!!...it's for her to still be reviled , despised etc isn't it?..but without the 'fame' ..which YOU helped make laddie.

I say nice one!!  

As I suspected, you approve of people scamming the system.

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Crap. If she's bad enough to not be able to work, she wouldn't be able to go on holiday in that manner either. Depression is not dependent on one's surroundings, it's a mental condition.

Your well off the mark here, there are different levels of depression, hers may well be milder than others, in many cases like that ..a change of scenery has done the world of good for them as well as refreshing them.

Well if it's mild, she can work!

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

That's not the point. If she's getting benefits because she can't work because she's clinically depressed, then clearly she's cured, so she can get a job now.

Someone with depression which is severe can barely function, let alone go swanning off on holiday. If it's not severe, then she can take medication and get a job.

...often people with depression and even severe depression DO go on holiday Rags..to help the depression, it's like temporarily leaving some problems behind for a week or two...

To claim someone is cured of depression because they go on holiday just doesn't ring true...there will be people with a much more sever depression ,who cannot function properly though.

".... She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol."

You're SERIOUSLY saying this woman living on benefits is acceptable? What about the poor bastards who really struggle on benefits? You're doing them no favour encouraging scum like this to give them a bad name.

Two peas in a pod eh!, Aww  

You still in the cream puff with me Andy?  :askissas:

Joy Division wrote:Two peas in a pod eh!, Aww  

You still in the cream puff with me Andy?  :askissas:

If mild depression was a reason to get benefits, half the country would be on benefits. If she can go on holiday, she can get a job.

if she's got depression I'm playing for man utd next week. First of all if she's on medication she shouldn't be drinking booze,second, if she had full blown depression she couldn't get out of bed.Going on a foreign holiday and laughing and pissing about ,don't make me laugh,she's a SCROUNGER.

nicko wrote:if she's got depression I'm playing for man utd next week. First of all if she's on medication she shouldn't be drinking booze,second, if she had full blown depression she couldn't get out of bed.Going on a foreign holiday and laughing and pissing about ,don't make me laugh,she's a SCROUNGER.

Exactly.

Oh dear!.,it's getting hot in here and I don't want the scary NF basement boys to slap me, so I'm off!  

Joy Division wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:In this case, i'm quite sure the holiday is paid for by somebody else.

The mother of two was invited on the four-day holiday by another of her agent’s clients, an American singer.

She was seen drinking a £500 bottle of Moet and lounging around at a private pool party before going on a bar crawl, where she downed copious amounts of alcohol.

Onlooker Amy Balfour, 21, of Sevenoaks, Kent, said: ‘People pay taxes and save for holidays. She hasn’t done either.’  Dee became the face of Benefits Street, which pulled in more than five million viewers and attracted more than 1,000 complaints.

She revealed she receives benefits of £214 a week, but has since said she would stop claiming the money  if she started receiving an income, either because of the show or another job.

Although she worked as a barmaid, and was later a Birmingham City Council administrator, she left in disgrace after being convicted of stealing £13,000.

She narrowly avoided jail in 2007 and was ordered to carry out 220 hours of unpaid work.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2620144/Benefits-Street-star-White-Dee-state-handouts-depressed-knocks-shots-beer-day-party-holiday.html#ixzz30qVnHXl4

Your quite happy to let this lady entertain you on the big screen, mock her , label her a scrounger and now karma has came back to bite you lot of jealous haters in the arse as she is pictured having a good time...

So what is it you want?...oh!!...it's for her to still be reviled , despised etc isn't it?..but without the 'fame' ..which YOU helped make laddie.

I say nice one!!  

Go out and work?

Contribute?

Pay her own way, and that of her children?

It isn't too much to ask, is it?

BigAndy9 wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Your quite happy to let this lady entertain you on the big screen, mock her , label her a scrounger and now karma has came back to bite you lot of jealous haters in the arse as she is pictured having a good time...

So what is it you want?...oh!!...it's for her to still be reviled , despised etc isn't it?..but without the 'fame' ..which YOU helped make laddie.

I say nice one!!  

Go out and work?

Contribute?

Pay her own way, and that of her children?

It isn't too much to ask, is it?

Well you can't force her into work Andy, especially work that is non existent, so what can you do ?

Nigel and Dave say ..Chillax chief

Joy Division wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:


Go out and work?

Contribute?

Pay her own way, and that of her children?

It isn't too much to ask, is it?

Well you can't force her into work Andy, especially work that is non existent, so what can you do ?

Nigel and Dave say ..Chillax chief

Is she getting some kind of incapacity benefit, or whatever it's called these days? She could be put on JSA and made to look for work, and prove that she's looking and applying for jobs properly.

I think you'll find that JD is only here to wind up posters.

BigAndy9 wrote:I think you'll find that JD is only here to wind up posters.

Yes. He is trivialising clinical depression and implying that anyone who is a bit fed up should be able to go on benefits instead of working.

People work depressed all the time, it just makes them really bad employees.

Just wondering, BA, if you could meet a typical benefits scrounger in a dark alley, just the two of you alone, and you could walk back out without anyone ever know what happened ... what would you do to them?

Ben_Reilly wrote:People work depressed all the time, it just makes them really bad employees.

Just wondering, BA, if you could meet a typical benefits scrounger in a dark alley, just the two of you alone, and you could walk back out without anyone ever know what happened ... what would you do to them?

It depends if the depression is under control. A lot of people have temporary depression which is alleviated by drugs and/or counselling. I don't think it's right that someone who is able to function quite well can get benefits just because they say they have mild depression or because they're on antidepressants.

I'd buy em a pint,give em a ---, and say, if you worked you could do the same for me. I'm sure that would shame them into looking for a job.???

I said "give em a f a g, why can't I say the word?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Well you can't force her into work Andy, especially work that is non existent, so what can you do ?

Nigel and Dave say ..Chillax chief

Is she getting some kind of incapacity benefit, or whatever it's called these days? She could be put on JSA and made to look for work, and prove that she's looking and applying for jobs properly.

I don't know exactly what benefit things she gets Rags, who knows..maybe this Magaluf

Episode will make the benefits department look more at her?

BigAndy9 wrote:I think you'll find that JD is only here to wind up posters.

Ah right !...I've not got a habit of altering thread titles to make the innocent look guilty Andy!, as I said before...yer an affy laddie  

Not too mention endless threads of Muslim and benefit bashing.

Ben_Reilly wrote:People work depressed all the time, it just makes them really bad employees.

Just wondering, BA, if you could meet a typical benefits scrounger in a dark alley, just the two of you alone, and you could walk back out without anyone ever know what happened ... what would you do to them?

I think Andy would shout on his mum!

She is a lazy fat twat and definately scanning the benefits system.

Tommy Monk wrote:She is a lazy fat twat and definately scanning the benefits system.

But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

Joy Division wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:She is a lazy fat twat and definately scanning the benefits system.

But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

Spoken like a true benefits scrounger.

Shady wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

Spoken like a true benefits scrounger.

...innit?  

Joy Division wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:She is a lazy fat twat and definately scanning the benefits system.

But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

If someone goes to the doctor and says they feel depressed, it's likely the doctor will put them on antidepressants. There's no clinical test for depression at a GP surgery, so they can only go on what the patient says. If they're on antidepressants, they can then claim benefits. However, being on antidepressants doesn't necessarily mean that someone can't work - ie, the point of antidepressants is that they make a depressed person feel better.

If someone can go out and have a good time, they are clearly not very depressed.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

If someone goes to the doctor and says they feel depressed, it's likely the doctor will put them on antidepressants. There's no clinical test for depression at a GP surgery, so they can only go on what the patient says. If they're on antidepressants, they can then claim benefits. However, being on antidepressants doesn't necessarily mean that someone can't work - ie, the point of antidepressants is that they make a depressed person feel better.

If someone can go out and have a good time, they are clearly not very depressed.

I already know this..apart from the part when you imply people can automatically claim benefits for being on anti depressants...I'm not so sure about that.

You must remember they are many different levels of depression and the various lengths these depressions last...each person has different tolerance levels to things like stress factors, medication etc..

Joy Division wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:She is a lazy fat twat and definately scanning the benefits system.

But she is obviously entitled to them Tommy or wouldn't be on them otherwise...

Just because the usual suspects from here saw a photo of her having a good time does not mean she is cheating the system....

That is the mentality of some ,look at one photo or hear one bit of gossip and it ignites their hatred and tantrums and bile.


Hang on ...it's in the post...she is scamming her doctor too and he is scamming the DSS too?  

As someone's already said, if she was on anti-depressants she wouldn't be getting pissed out of her brain would she? So yes she obviously is scamming the doctors.

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

If someone goes to the doctor and says they feel depressed, it's likely the doctor will put them on antidepressants. There's no clinical test for depression at a GP surgery, so they can only go on what the patient says. If they're on antidepressants, they can then claim benefits. However, being on antidepressants doesn't necessarily mean that someone can't work - ie, the point of antidepressants is that they make a depressed person feel better.

If someone can go out and have a good time, they are clearly not very depressed.

I already know this..apart from the part when you imply people can automatically claim benefits for being on anti depressants...I'm not so sure about that.

You must remember they are many different levels of depression and the various lengths these depressions last...each person has different tolerance levels to things like stress factors, medication etc..

Well I presume they put in a claim and use the fact that they're on antidepressants to back that up. I don't know much about that as I don't claim benefits. Perhaps you could explain the procedure.

I know there are different levels of depression, but the point is that only moderate to severe depression would stop someone from working, and even then if they take medication they may well feel a lot better so they can work. I would say that if someone can get on a plane and go on holiday and socialise, they are not suffering from moderate to severe depression.

Some people might say that getting a job could help mild depression - you know, having a reason to get up and a structure to their life and all that.

Joy Division wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

A night out? In Majorca?

She's clearly not depressed or she couldn't have done that. If she's on antidepressants, they must be working, so she can get a job.

Folk on benefits are allowed to go on holiday too you know, she could have got the money from another relative for all we know, it's becoming ridiculously sad that we scrutinise , judge and hound people because they are on benefits....and from many who themselves have most likely been long time benefit claimants!  

You dont fucking get it do you?

Yes people on benefits are allowed to go on holiday but people with crippling depression severe enough to prevent working simply do not get the luxury of having enough of a break from it to be able to go on holiday.

She is not being judged and hounded because she is on benefits she is being judged and hounded because she is making a mockery of all the people who really do have depression and who will never go on holiday like the pictures while they have the condition because the condition does not let them.

I have lost friends and relatives to depression and have lived in close proximity to it and the party pictures are slap in the face.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


I already know this..apart from the part when you imply people can automatically claim benefits for being on anti depressants...I'm not so sure about that.

You must remember they are many different levels of depression and the various lengths these depressions last...each person has different tolerance levels to things like stress factors, medication etc..

Well I presume they put in a claim and use the fact that they're on antidepressants to back that up. I don't know much about that as I don't claim benefits. Perhaps you could explain the procedure.

I know there are different levels of depression, but the point is that only moderate to severe depression would stop someone from working, and even then if they take medication they may well feel a lot better so they can work. I would say that if someone can get on a plane and go on holiday and socialise, they are not suffering from moderate to severe depression.

Some people might say that getting a job could help mild depression - you know, having a reason to get up and a structure to their life and all that.

Good afternoon Ragga.

Ragga,we're all depressed.We're all pissed off about something & that's how life goes.But when people use the condition to avoid working & to claim benefits then it is shows the persons lazy bastard mentality.

And that's why Drug Division supports White Dee or whatever her fat fuck arse name is.Because he & like all of their ilk couldn't give a f--k about anybody else & reckon the world owes them something for nothing.

We need a good bit of genocide in the UK...Just for a few weeks which would be long enough to get rid of the filthy lazy scum that infest this country.........Scroungers.

Shady wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well I presume they put in a claim and use the fact that they're on antidepressants to back that up. I don't know much about that as I don't claim benefits. Perhaps you could explain the procedure.

I know there are different levels of depression, but the point is that only moderate to severe depression would stop someone from working, and even then if they take medication they may well feel a lot better so they can work. I would say that if someone can get on a plane and go on holiday and socialise, they are not suffering from moderate to severe depression.

Some people might say that getting a job could help mild depression - you know, having a reason to get up and a structure to their life and all that.

Good afternoon Ragga.

Ragga,we're all depressed.We're all pissed off about something & that's how life goes.But when people use the condition to avoid working & to claim benefits then it is shows the persons lazy bastard mentality.

And that's why Drug Division supports White Dee or whatever her fat fuck arse name is.Because he & like all of their ilk couldn't give a f--k about anybody else & reckon the world owes them something for nothing.

We need a good bit of genocide in the UK...Just for a few weeks which would be long enough to get rid of the filthy lazy scum that infest this country.........Scroungers.

That first bit made me laugh Shady.   

sphinx wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


Folk on benefits are allowed to go on holiday too you know, she could have got the money from another relative for all we know, it's becoming ridiculously sad that we scrutinise , judge and hound people because they are on benefits....and from many who themselves have most likely been long time benefit claimants!  

You dont fucking get it do you?

Yes people on benefits are allowed to go on holiday but people with crippling depression severe enough to prevent working simply do not get the luxury of having enough of a break from it to be able to go on holiday.

She is not being judged and hounded because she is on benefits she is being judged and hounded because she is making a mockery of all the people who really do have depression and who will never go on holiday like the pictures while they have the condition because the condition does not let them.

I have lost friends and relatives to depression and have lived in close proximity to it and the party pictures are slap in the face.

I don't want to bet anything from you or your ilk, so you can stick trying justify your attacks on people on benefits just like you are...
Notice you rubbish other people's situation regards to their illness but throw a flakey when people rubbish the Fybnromyalgia which you say you have.

So to your bigoted and twisted opinions...no, I won't listen to them, so you can shove them right back up your arse.