Anti-hate crime Muslim campaign group attacked for supporting gay rights

The Muslim anti-hate crime campaign group Tell MAMA has been criticised for having a “reformist agenda” after it appointed human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell as its patron.
Last month, Peter Tatchell became one of the first openly gay persons appointed to a senior role in a mainstream, non-gay Muslim organisation.

However, Fiyaz Mughal, the chairman of Tell MAMA has said he is now facing backlash from members of the Islamic community for overstepping a “stated remit.”
According to The Sunday Express, the backlash started after he had responded to statements made by Dr Mohammed Naseem, the chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, after Naseem compared being gay to being a “compulsive gambler, murder, peadophile, etc.”

Responding to these attacks, Mr Mughal told the Sunday Express: “We’re clear. If you are homophobic or anti-Semitic, you can’t campaign against anti-Muslim prejudice.
“The two things just do not go together. If you’re an intolerant figure against someone else, you can’t then cry wolf when something happens to you. We’ll stand against intolerance in all communities.”

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/04/06/uk-anti-hate-crime-Muslim-campaign-group-attacked-for-supporting-gay-rights/

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Eilzel wrote:So your immediate response is homophobia...

there is no such thing as homophobia, its a stupid made up, meaningless word..

i replied with an insult......  

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

there is no such thing as homophobia, its a stupid made up, meaningless word..

i replied with an insult......  

Homophobia an irrational dislike or hate for or aversion to, gay people. Which you display with your comments day in day out- including arse bandit, a term clearly meant as an insult of gay people in general and used by you as an insult to someone else.

You are clearly homophobic and clearly incapable of discussing gay people without being an offensive degenerate.

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

there is no such thing as homophobia, its a stupid made up, meaningless word..

i replied with an insult......  

Homophobia an irrational dislike or hate for or aversion to, gay people. Which you display with your comments day in day out- including arse bandit, a term clearly meant as an insult of gay people in general and used by you as an insult to someone else.

You are clearly homophobic and clearly incapable of discussing gay people without being an offensive degenerate.

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

there is no such thing as homophobia, its a stupid made up, meaningless word..

i replied with an insult......  

Homophobia an irrational dislike or hate for or aversion to, gay people. Which you display with your comments day in day out- including arse bandit, a term clearly meant as an insult of gay people in general and used by you as an insult to someone else.

You are clearly homophobic and clearly incapable of discussing gay people without being an offensive degenerate.

so you are clearly heterophobic and Christainophobic, ... and racist, is it because i is black that you have a problem...

do you want to play some more....  

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

there is no such thing as homophobia, its a stupid made up, meaningless word..

i replied with an insult......  

Homophobia an irrational dislike or hate for or aversion to, gay people. Which you display with your comments day in day out- including arse bandit, a term clearly meant as an insult of gay people in general and used by you as an insult to someone else.

You are clearly homophobic and clearly incapable of discussing gay people without being an offensive degenerate.

Alright said Fred wrote:For me Smelly its the way that overt abuse is passed off if it directed at say straight Tories as inconsequential but even the mildest retort in response if it makes a passing reference or oblique reference to gay is a hate crime.

Words in common parlance can suddenly be determined to be homophobic. The ludicrous position of Eilzel on this thread trying to show that Muslims are more tolerant than the rest of the population beggars belief. That is patently not the case and I suggest it would be much harder for a gay to come out in a Muslim family than say in just about any other family.

smelly_bandit wrote:

Alright said Fred wrote:For me Smelly its the way that overt abuse is passed off if it directed at say straight Tories as inconsequential but even the mildest retort in response if it makes a passing reference or oblique reference to gay is a hate crime.

Words in common parlance can suddenly be determined to be homophobic. The ludicrous position of Eilzel on this thread trying to show that Muslims are more tolerant than the rest of the population beggars belief. That is patently not the case and I suggest it would be much harder for a gay to come out in a Muslim family than say in just about any other family.

You are of course correct

But you must understand that elizel is entrenched in his view and tolerates no challenge to that view

Anyone who does challenge or disagree with his homosexual agenda is immediately vilified

It's not that he genuinely feels insulted, it's more that if he discusses it rationally he will lose his victim status

For example, I find homosexual sex disgusting, I also find people who have sex with animals disgusting

In one instance I will be vilified as a homophobe in the other I will probably be agreed with.

Elizel and his little homosexual cabal are bigots of the highest order and grand master in the art of hypocrisy

Catman wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

Alright said Fred wrote:For me Smelly its the way that overt abuse is passed off if it directed at say straight Tories as inconsequential but even the mildest retort in response if it makes a passing reference or oblique reference to gay is a hate crime.

Words in common parlance can suddenly be determined to be homophobic. The ludicrous position of Eilzel on this thread trying to show that Muslims are more tolerant than the rest of the population beggars belief. That is patently not the case and I suggest it would be much harder for a gay to come out in a Muslim family than say in just about any other family.

You are of course correct

But you must understand that elizel is entrenched in his view and tolerates no challenge to that view

Anyone who does challenge or disagree with his homosexual agenda is immediately vilified

It's not that he genuinely feels insulted, it's more that if he discusses it rationally he will lose his victim status

For example, I find homosexual sex disgusting, I also find people who have sex with animals disgusting

In one instance I will be vilified as a homophobe in the other I will probably be agreed with.

Elizel and his little homosexual cabal are bigots of the highest order and grand master in the art of hypocrisy

Christ on a fucking bike, and he has always tried to be nice towards you, been so very Liberal and entertained your views/ combated them, in a very eloquent manner....And this is how you treat him.  

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

so you are clearly heterophobic and Christainophobic, ... and racist, is it because i is black that you have a problem...

do you want to play some more....  

I don't think Eilzel has an irrational hatred of straights or Christians, but rather a rational dislike for those who try to impose Christian straight values on everyone else.

And that play of the race-card you just did is priceless, everyone knows you're not black, and even if you were, nobody here gets onto because of your skin color.

In fact, when you first chose that modeling picture of your avatar, I suspected you were trying to see if people treated you differently because of it. I guess now that's failed, you're on to plan B  ::D:: 

Eilzel wrote:Phil minority governments don't work, and politicians will do anything to secure power

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

so you are clearly heterophobic and Christainophobic, ... and racist, is it because i is black that you have a problem...

do you want to play some more....  

I don't think Eilzel has an irrational hatred of straights or Christians, but rather a rational dislike for those who try to impose Christian straight values on everyone else.

And that play of the race-card you just did is priceless, everyone knows you're not black, and even if you were, nobody here gets onto because of your skin color.

In fact, when you first chose that modeling picture of your avatar, I suspected you were trying to see if people treated you differently because of it. I guess now that's failed, you're on to plan B  ::D:: 

smelly_bandit wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Homophobia an irrational dislike or hate for or aversion to, gay people. Which you display with your comments day in day out- including arse bandit, a term clearly meant as an insult of gay people in general and used by you as an insult to someone else.

You are clearly homophobic and clearly incapable of discussing gay people without being an offensive degenerate.

So if a person were to rationally explain his dislike of gay people it wouldn't be homophobia??

VOD(original) wrote:But the point is Lez , you and others seem to think it is okay and acceptable to throw insults at gigatt and sb even me if we disagree with you on homosexuality and yet when you get insults back you don't like it and say it is homophobic . Why no equality ??? or is it only equality for gays ?

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

I don't think Eilzel has an irrational hatred of straights or Christians, but rather a rational dislike for those who try to impose Christian straight values on everyone else.

And that play of the race-card you just did is priceless, everyone knows you're not black, and even if you were, nobody here gets onto because of your skin color.

In fact, when you first chose that modeling picture of your avatar, I suspected you were trying to see if people treated you differently because of it. I guess now that's failed, you're on to plan B  ::D:: 

of course les a heterophobe, he proves it every day, he is also a christianophobe he proves that every day..

he is also racist because he attacks people of colour..

all in all the biggest bigot of all, as usual the ones crying equality are the ones who would deny it to others...  

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:


Christ on a fucking bike, and he has always tried to be nice towards you, been so very Liberal and entertained your views/ combated them, in a very eloquent manner....And this is how you treat him.  

This is how he treats everyone who dares disagree with him; he's said it in other threads -- in his mind, he's at war. Won't be too surprised if one day he goes apeshit and pulls a Breivik, and will probably feel justified the entire time. Just like the fucking Taliban.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should add, a lot of these people talk about it like it's a war -- remember BA acting like it was another Battle of Britain? These people are violent and insane.

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

of course les a heterophobe, he proves it every day, he is also a christianophobe he proves that every day..

he is also racist because he attacks people of colour..

all in all the biggest bigot of all, as usual the ones crying equality are the ones who would deny it to others...  

Show me one heterophobic post- AND explain why David aside all the posters here I get on with and consider friends are straight.

Show me one racist post I have made.

I think Christianity is a load of nonesense but I have no problems with Christians who don't preach hate all the time; so I'm not Chistianophobic either.

You however don't think gay people should have equal rights; make connections between homosexuality and paedophilia; use homophobic slurs like that above- so you ARE homophobic.

^VOD- so you ignore your husbands term arse bandit- and expose yourself as talking crap about decent debate AGAIN- fuck that charade next time.

smelly_bandit wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Show me one heterophobic post- AND explain why David aside all the posters here I get on with and consider friends are straight.

Show me one racist post I have made.

I think Christianity is a load of nonesense but I have no problems with Christians who don't preach hate all the time; so I'm not Chistianophobic either.

You however don't think gay people should have equal rights; make connections between homosexuality and paedophilia; use homophobic slurs like that above- so you ARE homophobic.

^VOD- so you ignore your husbands term arse bandit- and expose yourself as talking crap about decent debate AGAIN- fuck that charade next time.

so me a single homophobic post i have allegedly made??

smelly_bandit wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should add, a lot of these people talk about it like it's a war -- remember BA acting like it was another Battle of Britain? These people are violent and insane.

i agree

absolute mental cases

Eilzel wrote:

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

of course les a heterophobe, he proves it every day, he is also a christianophobe he proves that every day..

he is also racist because he attacks people of colour..

all in all the biggest bigot of all, as usual the ones crying equality are the ones who would deny it to others...  

Show me one heterophobic post- AND explain why David aside all the posters here I get on with and consider friends are straight.

Show me one racist post I have made.

I think Christianity is a load of nonesense but I have no problems with Christians who don't preach hate all the time; so I'm not Chistianophobic either.

You however don't think gay people should have equal rights; make connections between homosexuality and paedophilia; use homophobic slurs like that above- so you ARE homophobic.

^VOD- so you ignore your husbands term arse bandit- and expose yourself as talking crap about decent debate AGAIN- fuck that charade next time.

Eilzel wrote:Non arguments, not deserving if an answer.