Do you argue more on forums than in real life?

[Syl]

First topic message reminder :

It's probable more subjects are up for discussion on a forum, and obviously we are communicating with people from different backgrounds and different cultures.
So, it wouldn't be surprising if you crossed swords more with people online than you would when discussing topics with family and friends in your local area.
But are you more patient and restrained with people when you discuss, argue, or debate a topic if someone is in the same room?

For instance....when (in the real world) did a difference of opinion end in name calling?

[eddie]

It's probable more subjects are up for discussion on a forum, and obviously we are communicating with people from different backgrounds and different cultures.
So, it wouldn't be surprising if you crossed swords more with people online than you would when discussing topics with family and friends in your local area.
But are  you more patient and restrained with people when you discuss, argue, or debate a topic if someone is in the same room?

For instance....when (in the real world) did a difference of opinion end in name calling?

I rarely get into heated debates actually, online or in real life. As soon as I sense a person is getting angry during a debate or discussion I will immediately know that there’s no point in continuing. Whenever a person gets angry during a discussion, there’s always a reason for their anger - and they don’t realise something must be triggering them. I’m not their therapist nor their punchbag...so I’m outta there.

[Syl]

Yes, I can imagine that you would be more or less  the same on and off forums.

I dont mind heated debates, but I seldom fall into personal name calling, it's childish.

[eddie]

Yes, I can imagine that you would be more or less  the same on and off forums.

I dont mind heated debates, but I seldom fall into personal name calling, it's childish.

I see you’re like that Syl.

[Maddog]

Is calling a liar, a liar, childish?

[Syl]

Yes, I can imagine that you would be more or less  the same on and off forums.

I dont mind heated debates, but I seldom fall into personal name calling, it's childish.

I see you’re like that Syl.

I wouldn't say anything to someone  on a forum that I wouldn't say face to face ...I think you are the same,
.

What I have noticed, the 'like/dislike button is very useful, we can press the LIKE to show someone we appreciate their comment, but I have seen lately that some really nasty posts get a 'like',

It reminds me of hangers on cheering on the school bully.

[eddie]

Yes, I can imagine that you would be more or less  the same on and off forums.

I dont mind heated debates, but I seldom fall into personal name calling, it's childish.

I see you’re like that Syl.

I wouldn't say anything to someone  on a forum that I wouldn't say face to face ...I think you are the same,
.

What I have noticed, the 'like/dislike button is very useful, we can press the LIKE to show someone we appreciate their comment, but I have seen lately that some really nasty posts get a 'like',

It reminds me of hangers on cheering on the school bully.

I was thinking that the like/dislike button has actually made us lazy.
Press a button instead of speaking.

Sign of the times.

[eddie]

Is calling a liar, a liar, childish?

Depends.
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[Syl]

Is calling a liar, a liar, childish?

As long as it's not thrown around at random , if you think someone is deliberately lying it's a valid comment...imo.

[Syl]

I wouldn't say anything to someone  on a forum that I wouldn't say face to face ...I think you are the same,
.

What I have noticed, the 'like/dislike button is very useful, we can press the LIKE to show someone we appreciate their comment, but I have seen lately that some really nasty posts get a 'like',

It reminds me of hangers on cheering on the school bully.

I was thinking that the like/dislike button has actually made us lazy.
Press a button instead of speaking.

Sign of the times.

I tend to use it instead of the    now.....probably because we are not limited.

[Maddog]

Is calling a liar, a liar, childish?

Depends.
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If someone fabricates a story that has no basis in truth, can I call them a liar?

I don't have a problem with different opinions, as long as they are presented as such.

[eddie]

Is calling a liar, a liar, childish?

Depends.
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If someone fabricates a story that has no basis in truth, can I call them a liar?

I don't have a problem with different opinions, as long as they are presented as such.

Yes if you know they’re fabricating a truth
But you know, if someone is fabricating a truth...they’re not gonna listen anyway, because they’re a liar.

[Maddog]

If someone fabricates a story that has no basis in truth, can I call them a liar?

I don't have a problem with different opinions, as long as they are presented as such.

Yes if you know they’re fabricating a truth  
But you know, if someone is fabricating a truth...they’re not gonna listen anyway, because they’re a liar.

You bring up an interesting topic.

Should you call out a liar or just ignore him? Guess it depends on how dangerous his lies are. On here, the lies really aren't going to harm anyone. It's not like any of us are influencing anyone else's lives.

It is difficult to have a decent conversation when much of the conversation is centered around fantasy or fiction.

[eddie]

If someone fabricates a story that has no basis in truth, can I call them a liar?

I don't have a problem with different opinions, as long as they are presented as such.

Yes if you know they’re fabricating a truth  
But you know, if someone is fabricating a truth...they’re not gonna listen anyway, because they’re a liar.

You bring up an interesting topic.

Should you call out a liar or just ignore him? Guess it depends on how dangerous his lies are. On here, the lies really aren't going to harm anyone.  It's not like any of us are influencing anyone else's lives.  

It is difficult to have a decent conversation when much of the conversation is centered around fantasy or fiction.  

So, pose it as a question and make a thread solely about this topic.
I’ll be interested to read it.

[JulesV]

I have seen lately that some really nasty posts get a 'like',

Yup!!
You're right, Syl.
I mean ....this post was absolutely DISGUSTING (never mind ''nasty'')  > >

''Low class whore trolls''

and the post got a big fat "LIKE" from ................................ YOU, Syl.


You know what they say,  when you point an accusing finger at someone, several of your own other fingers point right back at you.

Here you are, accusing people of pressing the ''like'' button for nasty posts.
Yet that is precisely what YOU yourself, did there Syl.

[Syl]

I have seen lately that some really nasty posts get a 'like',

Yup!!
You're right, Syl.
I mean ....this post was absolutely DISGUSTING (never mind ''nasty'')  > >

''Low class whore trolls''

and the post got a big fat "LIKE" from ................................ YOU, Syl.


You know what they say,  when you point an accusing finger at someone, several of your own other fingers point right back at you.

Here you are, accusing people of pressing the ''like'' button for nasty posts.
Yet that is precisely what YOU yourself, did there Syl.

Which thread was this?
I know how you like to take things out of context to score points, so I would appreciate you posting the thread title.

[JulesV]

Context my ass!

[JulesV]

Initially I did not make any comment at such a disgusting post, I just shrugged and moved on.

In fact I tried to lighten the mood in the thread after that.

But for you to  turn round and complain that nasty posts are being liked,  after you yourself  ''liked'' such a  disgusting post???

Hells bells, you couldn't make it up.

[Syl]

Initially I did not make any comment at such a disgusting post, I just shrugged and moved on.

In fact I tried to lighten the mood in the thread after that.

But for you to  turn round and complain that nasty posts are being liked,  after you yourself  ''liked'' such a  disgusting post???

Hells bells, you couldn't make it up.

So.....can you direct  me to this thread or not?

[Syl]

Oh dear....she seems to have run off without finding that thread with the disgusting post I 'liked'.

What a surprise.

[Syl]

Ooooh, the phantom red striper is rattled.

Considering the two incredibly sexist posts he made yesterday , surely it would have been wiser to keep....

[Original Quill]

Ooooh, the phantom red striper is rattled.

Considering the two incredibly sexist posts he made yesterday , surely it would have been wiser to keep....

Calm down, Syl.

[Syl]

Ooooh, the phantom red striper is rattled.

Considering the two incredibly sexist posts he made yesterday , surely it would have been wiser to keep....

Calm down, Syl.

I am calm Quill, I just don't like dishonesty and underhand ness.

[Original Quill]

I am calm Quill

Good. Try not to impute motives, as that is 'state of mind' evidence and you are not privy to someone else's state of mind.

Look for factual errors, and state them as such.

[Syl]

I am calm Quill

Good.  Try not to impute motives, as that is 'state of mind' evidence and you are not privy to someone else's state of mind.

Look for factual errors, and state them as such.

Thanks Judge.

You only quoted half of my posts...the other half was quite telling.

[Original Quill]

Good.  Try not to impute motives, as that is 'state of mind' evidence and you are not privy to someone else's state of mind.

Look for factual errors, and state them as such.

Thanks Judge.

You only quoted half of my posts...the other half was quite telling.

Yes...that was the point where you went off course. I don't like to repeat someone's errors where they are not germane to the point...which, in this case is...to stick to the facts. Adjectives are not arguments.

[Maddog]

Good.  Try not to impute motives, as that is 'state of mind' evidence and you are not privy to someone else's state of mind.

Look for factual errors, and state them as such.

Thanks Judge.

You only quoted half of my posts...the other half was quite telling.

You mean Doctor, don't you?

[Original Quill]

Thanks Judge.

You only quoted half of my posts...the other half was quite telling.

You mean Doctor, don't you?

Haha...doctor or judge. I have two doctorates: one in political theory; the other in law.

[Maddog]

You mean Doctor, don't you?

Haha...doctor or judge.     I have two doctorates: one in political theory; the other in law.

Me too. What a coincidence. And I have Masters in ancient dance.

[Original Quill]

Haha...doctor or judge.     I have two doctorates: one in political theory; the other in law.

Me too.  What a coincidence.  And I have Masters in ancient dance.  

They don't issue master's degrees in junior college.

[Syl]

Thanks Judge.

You only quoted half of my posts...the other half was quite telling.

Yes...that was the point where you went off course.  I don't like to repeat someone's errors where they are not germane to the point...which, in this case is...to stick to the facts.  Adjectives are not arguments.

Facts are not errors., I will leave you to believe what you like Quill.
I am too straight forward to play silly forum games.

[Original Quill]

Yes...that was the point where you went off course.  I don't like to repeat someone's errors where they are not germane to the point...which, in this case is...to stick to the facts.  Adjectives are not arguments.

Facts are not errors., I will leave you to believe what you like Quill.
I am too straight forward to play silly forum games.

That's the way I've always known you to be. That's why I took notice when you drifted off course.

[Maddog]

Facts are not errors., I will leave you to believe what you like Quill.
I am too straight forward to play silly forum games.

That's the way I've always known you to be.  That's why I took notice when you drifted off course.

What an arrogant dick.

I actually laughed when I read that.

[Syl]

That's the way I've always known you to be.  That's why I took notice when you drifted off course.

What an arrogant dick.  

I actually laughed when I read that.

[Original Quill]

That's the way I've always known you to be.  That's why I took notice when you drifted off course.

What an arrogant dick.  

I actually laughed when I read that.

Well, I rest my case. Syl, do you want gang warfare, like the above, or a fact-based, well-reasoned discussion?

[Andy]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation, and for no other reason.

[Maddog]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

It was started to call out me and Quill.

[Andy]

Why would anyone need to?
We already know you and Quill dislike each other.

The thread was started simply to provoke.

I would have to check, but doing that is against the forum rules.
A leftie doing that would have got basemented by Vic.

"Site disruption" -- any member engaging in conduct which moderators deem a significant disruption will be warned or basemented. This includes excessively making personal insults, excessively turning threads into flame wars, creating threads intended to antagonize other members, and other anti-social behaviors."

[Maddog]

I would have to check, but doing that is against the forum rules.
A leftie doing that would have got basemented by Vic.

Go wash that sand out of your vagina, you whining little bitch.

Jesus Christ you're an embarrassment.

[Andy]

Did Syl give you a choccie treat ?

[Andy]

[Maddog]

That's better. Less whining.

[Syl]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

The self projection in this post is laughable.

It's obviou to me you only come here to cause trouble, go back to your base and await orders from your boss.
And remind her that she still hasn't produced the 'disgusting post' she accused me of liking the other night.

[gelico]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

hi andy, honestly you are totally wrong on syl.

she doesn't do sly or sneaky or provocation for the sake of it

she's her own person and imo quite lovely

[Syl]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

It was started to call out me and Quill.

Not just you two. It interests me to know why  people argue on forums but seldom argue in real life.

I doubt the opposite is true, I cant imagine the placid poster (and I can only think of a couple) rant and rave much away from forums.

[Syl]

Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

hi andy, honestly you are totally wrong on syl.

she doesn't do sly or sneaky or provocation for the sake of it

she's her own person and imo quite lovely

Thanks Gels.....Andy can think what he likes, it's a free country.

I very much doubt he has the right idea about Maddog either.

[Maddog]

It was started to call out me and Quill.

Not just you two. It interests me to know why  people argue on forums but seldom argue in real life.

I doubt the opposite is true, I cant imagine the placid poster (and I can only think of a couple) rant and rave much away from forums.

True, but we were the two clowns making the most noise at the time.

And maybe call out was the wrong phrase. I didn't feel judged, just questioned.

[Syl]

Not just you two. It interests me to know why  people argue on forums but seldom argue in real life.

I doubt the opposite is true, I cant imagine the placid poster (and I can only think of a couple) rant and rave much away from forums.

True, but we were the two clowns making the most noise at the time.

And maybe call out was the wrong phrase. I didn't feel judged, just questioned.

It was a thread started just to get other peoples opinions.....I said at the start it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.

It was interesting , as are lot's of threads that asks a  question, most people took the topic as it was intended to be.

[JulesV]

Oh dear....she seems to have run off without finding that thread with the disgusting post I 'liked'.

What a surprise.

"Run off" ? - don't make me  laugh.
I am a grown woman, I don't run away from fuck all. Got it?


I did not tell you which thread simply cos I refuse to take orders from you.
Not my fault if you cannot even remember your own actions.
I gave you the exact phrase - and the person who came up with such a disgusting post knows who they are, it was quite recent.
An don't bother changing the subject and saying others make disgusting posts too.  Cos it was YOU who brought up the flipping subject of people liking nasty posts, no one else.

Hilarious that you started whining about people pressing the ''like button'' on nasty posts then it turns out you are the worst offender.  You  saw a post that contained the word ''whore'' and you were quite happy to 'like' such a post.
You mentioned context - well maybe the other people who liked certain posts did so in context too.

[JulesV]

Yes...that was the point where you went off course.  I don't like to repeat someone's errors where they are not germane to the point...which, in this case is...to stick to the facts.  Adjectives are not arguments.

Facts are not errors., I will leave you to believe what you like Quill.

I am too straight forward to play silly forum games.

You play PLENTY of games and you shit stir ATT, Syl.
You've made snidy accusing remarks about me several times in the last few days. You cannot help yourself.
Btw it wasn't me who gave you the red, I don't give reds, you can easily check that from my profile.




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Syl wants gang warfare . She has her loyal little puppy Maddog at her feet ,begging for treats .
The thread was started for provocation,  and for no other reason.

The self projection in this post is laughable.
It's obviou to me you only come here to cause trouble, go back to your base and await orders from your boss.
And remind her that she still hasn't produced the 'disgusting post' she accused me of liking the other night.

Oh look at the snidy shit-stirring drivel that sweet lady our "lovely, lovely" Syl, is coming out with.

Andy was a member here long before you or I, he can handle himself, without ''orders'  from any boss, don't be stupid.  
Threads like this never end well, however (allegedly) well intentioned they are meant to be.
They always end up in a free for all bustup and you should surely have enough wisdom to realise this.
Anyway you got the bloody row you wanted.  Happy now?

[gelico]

Oh dear....she seems to have run off without finding that thread with the disgusting post I 'liked'.

What a surprise.

I gave you the exact phrase - and the person who came up with such a disgusting post knows who they are, it was quite recent.

You mentioned context - well maybe the other people who liked certain posts did so in context too.

i didn't see you mention who had actually written the whore post. i was curious to see the context of the actual post.

context is important after all. did i miss the name of the author of that particular post?

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