Andrew Cuomo Is New York’s Richard Nixon

by Maddog Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:02 am

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Perhaps the biggest political scandal in America right now is playing out in New York, where Governor Andrew Cuomo is in a lot of trouble — and rightly so. The Democratic governor did not merely wildly mismanage his state’s response to the COVID-19 emergency, while netting himself a lucrative book deal and an Emmy. He did something worse.

In the middle of a public health emergency, he used his office to help one of his largest political donors shield itself from legal consequences as fifteen thousand nursing home residents died from COVID-19 — and then he and his administration underreported that death toll, helping the same donor.

We had been covering the story for months before it exploded this week. The scandal is a cautionary tale of hubris, megalomania, and corruption that left a literal mountain of preventable COVID-19 deaths in its wake. Now we are about to see whether a blue state’s democratic institutions can hold wrongdoers accountable, or whether America’s culture of impunity can once again protect the powerful from facing any consequences at all.

Amid a cacophony of demands for Cuomo to resign, the governor and his aides are frantically trying to cover up the basic facts of what happened, and that includes launching a Nixonian campaign of intimidation and retribution against Democratic lawmakers who have for months been sounding the alarm.

Two national news outlets today detailed Cuomo’s new campaign of retribution against one lawmaker in his own party who dared to ask questions about constituents and family members who died under Cuomo’s nursing home policies. Cuomo held a press conference to publicly berate the same Democrat, while another New York news outlet reported that other lawmakers are now facing threats.

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/02/andrew-cuomo-scandal-covid-nursing-home-deaths

This is a socialist publication, so take their bias into account, but those Cuomo boys like to play bully, and there is no doubt that putting all of those Covid positive patients into nursing homes was a disaster.

by Original Quill Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:39 pm

Gasp! Cough, cough... Wink

by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:42 pm

Original Quill wrote:Gasp! Cough, cough...

"Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) on Monday evening called for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign, after a third woman accused him of inappropriate behavior."

by JulesV Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:32 pm

Say what?

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by Maddog Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:52 pm

JulesV wrote:Say what?

What in the hell did I just watch?

by Maddog Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:36 am

Charlotte Bennett, one of the women accusing New York Governor Andrew Cuomo of sexual harassment, on Thursday detailed multiple instances in which the governor allegedly made inappropriate comments, including asking her if her experience with sexual assault had impacted her sex life. Cuomo allegedly told Bennett he was comfortable dating 22-year-olds and was looking for a girlfriend, and asked her about her sexual relationships.

Bennett, who was the governor's executive assistant and a health policy adviser, told "CBS Evening News" anchor and managing editor Norah O'Donnell that during a one-on-one meeting on June 5, 2020, Cuomo asked multiple questions that led her to the conclusion that "The governor's trying to sleep with me."

"Without explicitly saying it, he implied to me that I was old enough for him and he was lonely," she said.

https://news.yahoo.com/cuomo-accuser-recalls-alleged-harassment-233500293.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatc

by Original Quill Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:39 pm

I heard. Much ado about nothing.

by Maddog Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:40 pm

Original Quill wrote:I heard. Much ado about nothing.

That's what a lot of rapists say too.

by Original Quill Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:12 pm

It's a Republican 'look-alike' argument. Pay back for when Supreme Court candidate Brett Kavanaugh was questioned by senators about his gang-rapes.

The problem with Republican 'look-alike' arguments is there is never any predicate fact. It's all for naught without a basis in fact. What they have in the Cuomo case is social banter, which depends on which crowd you're preaching to.

by Maddog Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:11 pm

Original Quill wrote:It's a Republican 'look-alike' argument. Pay back for when Supreme Court candidate Brett Kavanaugh was questioned by senators about his gang-rapes.

The problem with Republican 'look-alike' arguments is there is never any predicate fact. It's all for naught without a basis in fact. What they have in the Cuomo case is social banter, which depends on which crowd you're preaching to.

"Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) on Monday evening called for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign, after a third woman accused him of inappropriate behavior."

by Maddog Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:06 pm

https://www.huffp.st/jrrBLXf

Now the vast right wing conspiracy is up to 5 women.

by Original Quill Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:25 pm

Maddog wrote:https://www.huffp.st/jrrBLXf

Now the vast right wing conspiracy is up to 5 women.

Doesn't it make the RW look ridiculous when they can't even come up with a pattern? What they are trying to pin on a Democrat is a habitual offense, when they can't even prove the habit. First, it's not that uncommon...some 81% of women have experienced sexual harassment. So, they've got a very common phenomenon that they are trying to find. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment

Second, sexual harassers are repeat offenders. One of the many major problems with sexual harassment in the workplace: It happens more than once. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/one-major-reason-why-sexual-harassers-can-continue-2017-10-21

In fact, that is one of the difficulties with sexual harassment. Donald Trump had many accusers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations Sexual harassment is not a single pass. The EEOC has a policy of discounting a single pass (unless it is egregious) and writing it off as standard 'boy-girl' behavior.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/one-major-reason-why-sexual-harassers-can-continue-2017-10-21

Add to this, the problem of standards. Misunderstandings abound. Only when it becomes habitual does it become an issue. It appears there are misunderstood interactions with Cuomo, that do not rise to the level of harassment. Misunderstandings, perhaps.

But given the charged political nature of his position, I tend to think Republicans are really beating the bush to find something…and they are failing, mostly because they are misunderstandings, or deliberately contorted situations.

See alos: https://www.inspq.qc.ca/en/sexual-assault/fact-sheets/recidivism-among-perpetrators-sexual-assault

by Maddog Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:28 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:https://www.huffp.st/jrrBLXf

Now the vast right wing conspiracy is up to 5 women.

Doesn't it make the RW look ridiculous when they can't even come up with a pattern? What they are trying to pin on a Democrat is a habitual offense, when they can't even prove the habit. First, it's not that uncommon...some 81% of women have experienced sexual harassment. So, they've got a very common phenomenon that they are trying to find. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment

Second, sexual harassers are repeat offenders. One of the many major problems with sexual harassment in the workplace: It happens more than once. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/one-major-reason-why-sexual-harassers-can-continue-2017-10-21

In fact, that is one of the difficulties with sexual harassment. Donald Trump had many accusers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations Sexual harassment is not a single pass. The EEOC has a policy of discounting a single pass (unless it is egregious) and writing it off as standard 'boy-girl' behavior.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/one-major-reason-why-sexual-harassers-can-continue-2017-10-21

Add to this, the problem of standards. Misunderstandings abound. Only when it becomes habitual does it become an issue. It appears there are misunderstood interactions with Cuomo, that do not rise to the level of harassment. Misunderstandings, perhaps.

But given the charged political nature of his position, I tend to think Republicans are really beating the bush to find something…and they are failing, mostly because they are misunderstandings, or deliberately contorted situations.

See alos: https://www.inspq.qc.ca/en/sexual-assault/fact-sheets/recidivism-among-perpetrators-sexual-assault

Odd that all of the participants in this vast RW conspiracy are democrats.

by Original Quill Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:47 pm

Maddog wrote:Odd that all of the participants in this vast RW conspiracy are democrats.

Not all. You are certainly applauding, and I'm confident you are not a Democrat. And the overactive diggers of all these look-alike facts seem to be all Republicans.

by Maddog Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:Odd that all of the participants in this vast RW conspiracy are democrats.

Not all. You are certainly applauding, and I'm confident you are not a Democrat. And the overactive diggers of all these look-alike facts seem to be all Republicans.

I'm not a fan of creepy fucking men.

It appears you are.

Ever been to Epstein's island?

by Original Quill Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:23 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Not all. You are certainly applauding, and I'm confident you are not a Democrat. And the overactive diggers of all these look-alike facts seem to be all Republicans.

I'm not a fan of creepy fucking men.

It appears you are.

Ever been to Epstein's island?

Never. I reckon that is a privilege limited to Tories and Republicans.

Once again, anyone can call names...but proving it is another matter. Republicans have raised no tangible evidence of improper motives. They seem to be obsessed with incidents that in their minds look like Trumpian transgressions. Only, with Trump there is tangible proof; with Cuomo there are only could'a been's and look-a-like's...with no Access Hollywood tapes, no Moscow Hotel Pee-films, no Stormy Daniels pay-offs, no Non-disclosure agreements, and, most peculiar, no lawsuits.

Y'know, now that I think about it, this is the same illogic that Trump used to claim he was re-elected. He raised only could'a been's and look-a-like's to support his claims, and concluded this was actual proof of election fraud. Courts rejected his claims because there was no actual proof of the thing-in-itself.

And here with allegations against Cuomo, we have the same contorted logic being raised: could'a been's and look-a-like's. Is that what is taught at C-PAC meetings? Are they actually teaching anti-reason at the Heritage Foundation? Something has gotten into their Kool-Aid. Rolling Eyes

by Maddog Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:16 pm

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stewart-cousins-new-york-senate-cuomo-resign_n_60453625c5b613cec15e9d0c

"Andrea Stewart-Cousins, the top Democrat in the New York state Senate, called on Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign on Sunday after two additional women accused him of inappropriate behavior. "

by Original Quill Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:53 am

New York politics is complicated. There hasn't been an investigation yet. Obviously, any resignation is premature.

So far, the case is frivolous, at best. If they come up with something substantial after an investigation, we’ll look at it.

by Maddog Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:15 pm

Original Quill wrote:New York politics is complicated. There hasn't been an investigation yet. Obviously, any resignation is premature.

So far, the case is frivolous, at best. If they come up with something substantial after an investigation, we’ll look at it.

Cuomo's problems are his fellow Dems. They are the ones calling for him to step down.

by Original Quill Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:New York politics is complicated. There hasn't been an investigation yet. Obviously, any resignation is premature.

So far, the case is frivolous, at best. If they come up with something substantial after an investigation, we’ll look at it.

Cuomo's problems are his fellow Dems. They are the ones calling for him to step down.

The Republicans are busy building the case. So far, all they have is suggestion and innuendo, which is what 'could'a been' and 'look-alike' arguments typically appear as. Better not to be stampeded, and wait for a careful investigation.

by Maddog Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:52 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Cuomo's problems are his fellow Dems. They are the ones calling for him to step down.

The Republicans are busy building the case. So far, all they have is suggestion and innuendo, which is what 'could'a been' and 'look-alike' arguments typically appear as. Better not to be stampeded, and wait for a careful investigation.

Sorry, there aren't enough Republicans in NY to build the case.

This is Dems actually doing their job.

by Original Quill Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:02 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The Republicans are busy building the case. So far, all they have is suggestion and innuendo, which is what 'could'a been' and 'look-alike' arguments typically appear as. Better not to be stampeded, and wait for a careful investigation.

Sorry, there aren't enough Republicans in NY to build the case.

This is Dems actually doing their job.

New York is actually quite a conservative state. There's New York city, and then there's the rest of the state. And Buffalo is more like western PA and Ohio than down east.

by Maddog Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Sorry, there aren't enough Republicans in NY to build the case.

This is Dems actually doing their job.

New York is actually quite a conservative state. There's New York city, and then there's the rest of the state. And Buffalo is more like western PA and Ohio than down east.

The Dems run that state. It's not even debatable. They are the ones going after Cuomo, and rightfully so.

Stop.

by Original Quill Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:48 am

We need to see the results of the IV.

by Maddog Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:We need to see the results of the IV.

Of course we do. But much like in the Anthony Wiener case, a resignation can precede it.

by Lurker Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:13 pm

Well, poor Andrew. No matter what he's done or hasn't done he's still a billion times better than any republican.

by Maddog Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:17 pm

Lurker wrote:Well, poor Andrew. No matter what he's done or hasn't done he's still a billion times better than any republican.

Really. So being a sexual predator is fine then?

Do you have any daughters that still claim you?

by Original Quill Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:20 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:We need to see the results of the IV.

Of course we do. But much like in the Anthony Wiener case, a resignation can precede it.

Why bother? It's just Republicans, doing what they did to Hillary Clinton (Benghazi), and Joe Biden ("just announce it, you don't even have to do the investigation...")...engaging in character assassination of the likely next candidate for the other party.

Get the pattern? Russians are known by how tightly they sew on buttons. Wink

by Maddog Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:32 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Of course we do. But much like in the Anthony Wiener case, a resignation can precede it.

Why bother? It's just Republicans, doing what they did to Hillary Clinton (Benghazi), and Joe Biden ("just announce it, you don't even have to do the investigation...")...engaging in character assassination of the likely next candidate for the other party.

Get the pattern? Russians are known by how tightly they sew on buttons.

"Andrea Stewart-Cousins, the top Democrat in the New York state Senate, called on Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign on Sunday after two additional women accused him of inappropriate behavior. "

by Original Quill Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:37 pm

Democrats can be 'weak sisters' can't they? They're not clever and devious like those Republicans. Twisted Evil

But then, I'd rather they be too careful, than a Russian puppet.

by Maddog Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:47 pm

Original Quill wrote:Democrats can be 'weak sisters' can't they? They're not clever and devious like those Republicans.

But then, I'd rather they be too careful, than a Russian puppet.

"Andrea Stewart-Cousins, the top Democrat in the New York state Senate, called on Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign on Sunday after two additional women accused him of inappropriate behavior. "

by Original Quill Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:00 am

A sixth woman has come come forth.

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:49 am

SIXTH woman says Cuomo sexually harassed her: Female aide claims NY governor touched her inappropriately in the executive mansion - as previous accuser says his office was 'toxic, retaliatory and hostile'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9343825/Sixth-woman-accuses-Gov-Cuomo-sexual-harassment.html

by Original Quill Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:43 pm

Misunderstandings.

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:25 pm

Original Quill wrote:Misunderstandings.

Yeah. People accidently grope each other. Cool

by Original Quill Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:12 pm

Nobody has said "groping" with regard to Cuomo...(they have with Trump). They are so far talking about greeting someone at a wedding, or conversations that make one party uncomfortable...but nothing we can all agree amount to sexual assault.

Would this be considered "groping"?

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Or this, at a wedding:

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It's ambiguous, at best.

However, when a man talks about "grabbing pussy" it's not ambiguous. So...there's a lot of difference between accusations against Cuomo, and accusations against Trump.

Yet, Republicans are making the case that they are the same.

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:26 pm

Original Quill wrote:Nobody has said "groping" with regard to Cuomo...(they have with Trump). They are so far talking about greeting someone at a wedding, or conversations that make one party uncomfortable...but nothing we can all agree amount to sexual assault.

Would this be considered "groping"?

Or this, at a wedding:

It's ambiguous, at best.

However, when a man talks about "grabbing pussy" it's not ambiguous. So...there's a lot of difference between accusations against Cuomo, and accusations against Trump.

Yet, Republicans are making the case that they are the same.

You are misinformed about the accusations.

by Original Quill Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:32 pm

No I'm not. Cuomo is accused of greeting a woman at a wedding with a kiss. Trump is accused of "grabbing pussy":

There's no comparison.

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 pm

Original Quill wrote:No I'm not. Cuomo is accused of greeting a woman at a wedding with a kiss. Trump is accused of "grabbing pussy":

There's no comparison.

Trumps a piece of shit.

Much like Cuomo.

Unlike you, I'll defend the actions of neither.

Maybe that's why my daughters still talk to me.

by Maddog Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 pm

Original Quill wrote:No I'm not. Cuomo is accused of greeting a woman at a wedding with a kiss. Trump is accused of "grabbing pussy":

There's no comparison.

Trumps a piece of shit.

Much like Cuomo.

Unlike you, I'll defend the actions of neither.

Maybe that's why my daughters still talk to me.

by Maddog Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:37 am

The staff member, whose identity is being withheld by the Times Union, had been called to the mansion under the apparent pretext of having her assist the governor with a minor technical issue involving his mobile phone. They were alone in Cuomo's private residence on the second floor when he closed the door and allegedly reached under her blouse and began to fondle her, according to the source.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Female-aide-said-Cuomo-aggressively-groped-her-at-16015863.php

Is she #6 or #7.

by Original Quill Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:03 am

There's something wrong with each and all the accusations against Cuomo. This one won't be identified. Why is that?

I'm thinkin'... Republicans are staying awake at night around Dupont Circle, and makin' this stuff up.

by Maddog Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:There's something wrong with each and all the accusations against Cuomo. This one won't be identified. Why is that?

I'm thinkin'... Republicans are staying awake at night around Dupont Circle, and makin' this stuff up.

A lot of sexial assault victims like to remain anonymous.

by Original Quill Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:39 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:There's something wrong with each and all the accusations against Cuomo. This one won't be identified. Why is that?

I'm thinkin'... Republicans are staying awake at night around Dupont Circle, and makin' this stuff up.

A lot of sexial assault victims like to remain anonymous.

And a lot of liars like to make up shit, and not reveal they have no proof.

Now we know Republicans live by the lie--how many lies did Trump tell(?)--or, didn't Republicans lie (WMD's) to get us into a war in Iraq? Didn't Reagan lie about Iran-Contra? It's so repetitive that it's boring.

So, I think it's a safe bet that Republicans are trying to pull the same scam about Cuomo, that they tried on Hillary, and they tried on Biden. It’s in the Koch Bros. playbook.

You play a magic trick too often, and the crowd gets wise.

by Maddog Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

A lot of sexial assault victims like to remain anonymous.

And a lot of liars like to make up shit, and not reveal they have no proof.

Now we know Republicans live by the lie--how many lies did Trump tell(?)--or, didn't Republicans lie (WMD's) to get us into a war in Iraq? Didn't Reagan lie about Iran-Contra? It's so repetitive that it's boring.

So, I think it's a safe bet that Republicans are trying to pull the same scam about Cuomo, that they tried on Hillary, and they tried on Biden. It’s in the Koch Bros. playbook.

You play a magic trick too often, and the crowd gets wise.

"Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) on Monday evening called for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign, after a third woman accused him of inappropriate behavior."

by Original Quill Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:16 pm

"Don't repeat yourself, Maynard," were the words of Johathan Winters, in a skit. The point being, the repetitiveness is showing your desperation.

The long campaign of cultivated lies against 'the next Democratic candidate', worked for Republicans on Hillary (tho, she did get 3-million more votes than Trump). It didn't work against Biden.

It won't work on Cuomo.

by Maddog Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:08 pm

Original Quill wrote:"Don't repeat yourself, Maynard," were the words of Johathan Winters, in a skit. The point being, the repetitiveness is showing your desperation.

The long campaign of cultivated lies against 'the next Democratic candidate', worked for Republicans on Hillary (tho, she did get 3-million more votes than Trump). It didn't work against Biden.

It won't work on Cuomo.

by Maddog Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:26 pm

"Gov. Cuomo has lost the confidence of the people of New York. Gov. Cuomo must resign," Nadler said in the statement.

Ocasio-Cortez released a joint statement with fellow progressive Rep. Jamaal Bowman also calling for Cuomo's resignation, citing the most recent allegation against him.

“The fact that this latest report was so recent is alarming, and it raises concerns about the present safety and well-being of the administration’s staff. These allegations have all been consistent and highly detailed, and there are also credible media reports substantiating their accounts," they said, noting that Cuomo is also being investigated for under-reporting the number of Covid-19 nursing home deaths.

by Original Quill Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:03 pm

Maddog wrote:"Gov. Cuomo has lost the confidence of the people of New York. Gov. Cuomo must resign," Nadler said in the statement.

Ocasio-Cortez released a joint statement with fellow progressive Rep. Jamaal Bowman also calling for Cuomo's resignation, citing the most recent allegation against him.

“The fact that this latest report was so recent is alarming, and it raises concerns about the present safety and well-being of the administration’s staff. These allegations have all been consistent and highly detailed, and there are also credible media reports substantiating their accounts," they said, noting that Cuomo is also being investigated for under-reporting the number of Covid-19 nursing home deaths.

He denies it. Wink

by Maddog Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:"Gov. Cuomo has lost the confidence of the people of New York. Gov. Cuomo must resign," Nadler said in the statement.

Ocasio-Cortez released a joint statement with fellow progressive Rep. Jamaal Bowman also calling for Cuomo's resignation, citing the most recent allegation against him.

“The fact that this latest report was so recent is alarming, and it raises concerns about the present safety and well-being of the administration’s staff. These allegations have all been consistent and highly detailed, and there are also credible media reports substantiating their accounts," they said, noting that Cuomo is also being investigated for under-reporting the number of Covid-19 nursing home deaths.

He denies it.

Yeah. Like most men who assault women. That's nothing new.

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