Andrew Cuomo Is New York’s Richard Nixon

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Perhaps the biggest political scandal in America right now is playing out in New York, where Governor Andrew Cuomo is in a lot of trouble — and rightly so. The Democratic governor did not merely wildly mismanage his state’s response to the COVID-19 emergency, while netting himself a lucrative book deal and an Emmy. He did something worse.

In the middle of a public health emergency, he used his office to help one of his largest political donors shield itself from legal consequences as fifteen thousand nursing home residents died from COVID-19 — and then he and his administration underreported that death toll, helping the same donor.

We had been covering the story for months before it exploded this week. The scandal is a cautionary tale of hubris, megalomania, and corruption that left a literal mountain of preventable COVID-19 deaths in its wake. Now we are about to see whether a blue state’s democratic institutions can hold wrongdoers accountable, or whether America’s culture of impunity can once again protect the powerful from facing any consequences at all.

Amid a cacophony of demands for Cuomo to resign, the governor and his aides are frantically trying to cover up the basic facts of what happened, and that includes launching a Nixonian campaign of intimidation and retribution against Democratic lawmakers who have for months been sounding the alarm.

Two national news outlets today detailed Cuomo’s new campaign of retribution against one lawmaker in his own party who dared to ask questions about constituents and family members who died under Cuomo’s nursing home policies. Cuomo held a press conference to publicly berate the same Democrat, while another New York news outlet reported that other lawmakers are now facing threats.

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/02/andrew-cuomo-scandal-covid-nursing-home-deaths


This is a socialist publication, so take their bias into account, but those Cuomo boys like to play bully, and there is no doubt that putting all of those Covid positive patients into nursing homes was a disaster.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

He denies it.

Yeah. Like most men who assault women.  That's nothing new.  

As long as he denies it, he's entitled to a fair investigation.  The New York AG has opened one, so let it play out.

As far as Democrats calling for his resignation, remember...Democrats are always snowflakes.  That's the one mistake Obama made...not to behead the Republicans.  They are traitors, and need to be gone...toot-sweet.  

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Yeah. Like most men who assault women.  That's nothing new.  

As long as he denies it, he's entitled to a fair investigation.  The New York AG has opened one, so let it play out.

As far as Democrats calling for his resignation, remember...Democrats are always snowflakes.  That's the one mistake Obama made...not to behead the Republicans.  They are traitors, and need to be gone...toot-sweet.  

Nah, what it shows is that democrats can be decent people when it comes to sexual assault and the abuse of power against subordinates.

Present company on this thread excluded of course.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

As long as he denies it, he's entitled to a fair investigation.  The New York AG has opened one, so let it play out.

As far as Democrats calling for his resignation, remember...Democrats are always snowflakes.  That's the one mistake Obama made...not to behead the Republicans.  They are traitors, and need to be gone...toot-sweet.  

Nah, what it shows is that democrats can be decent people when it comes to sexual assault and the abuse of power against subordinates.  

Present company on this thread excluded of course.  

Snowflakes!

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Nah, what it shows is that democrats can be decent people when it comes to sexual assault and the abuse of power against subordinates.  

Present company on this thread excluded of course.  

Snowflakes!  

Yeah, I guess treating women well makes you a snowflake in some circles. Not mine though.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Snowflakes!  

Yeah, I guess treating women well makes you a snowflake in some circles.  Not mine though.  

Haha...not as bad as Republicans. They will eat their own children.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Yeah, I guess treating women well makes you a snowflake in some circles.  Not mine though.  

Haha...not as bad as Republicans.  They will eat their own children.  

So sexual assault is OK because it's not as bad as eating your own kid.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Haha...not as bad as Republicans. They will eat their own children.

So sexual assault is OK because it's not as bad as eating your own kid.

Cuomo denies any sexual assault. New York politics are always rough. I suspect we are dealing with some brittle reactions to harsh or abrupt words.

And I know Republicans are hard-pressed to counter their utter failure on the pandemic. Cuomo was the only governor who rolled up his sleeves and went to work, in contrast to bunglers like Abbott and DeSantis. Now, Cuomo is a hero, and Republicans want to smudge that picture.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

So sexual assault is OK because it's not as bad as eating your own kid.  

Cuomo denies any sexual assault.  New York politics are always rough.  I suspect we are dealing with some brittle reactions to harsh or abrupt words.

And I know Republicans are hard-pressed to counter their utter failure on the pandemic.  Cuomo was the only governor who rolled up his sleeves and went to work, in contrast to bunglers like Abbott and DeSantis.  Now, Cuomo is a hero, and Republicans want to smudge that picture.

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.

"In the middle of a public health emergency, he used his office to help one of his largest political donors shield itself from legal consequences as fifteen thousand nursing home residents died from COVID-19 — and then he and his administration underreported that death toll, helping the same donor."

Stop
Fucking
Lying

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Cuomo denies any sexual assault.  New York politics are always rough.  I suspect we are dealing with some brittle reactions to harsh or abrupt words.

And I know Republicans are hard-pressed to counter their utter failure on the pandemic.  Cuomo was the only governor who rolled up his sleeves and went to work, in contrast to bunglers like Abbott and DeSantis.  Now, Cuomo is a hero, and Republicans want to smudge that picture.

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.  

Cuomo denies any sexual assault. He won't resign without cause...no one would expect that. So, we'll just have to wait out the investigation started by the New York AG.

Who knows? Maybe Biden will appoint him to the Supreme Court, in which case it will all be moot.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.  

Cuomo denies any sexual assault.  He won't resign without cause...no one would expect that.  So, we'll just have to wait out the investigation started by the New York AG.

Who knows?  Maybe Biden will appoint him to the Supreme Court, in which case it will all be moot.

Lots of sexual predators claim innocence.

Like you, they are liars.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Cuomo denies any sexual assault.  He won't resign without cause...no one would expect that.  So, we'll just have to wait out the investigation started by the New York AG.

Who knows?  Maybe Biden will appoint him to the Supreme Court, in which case it will all be moot.

Lots of sexual predators claim innocence.

Like you, they are liars.

Boring...

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Lots of sexual predators claim innocence.

Like you, they are liars.

Boring...  

You don't give me much to work with except your same lame attempts at gaslighting.

Your complaints are boring. You don't show much patience with the American justice system. I don't own that problem...you do.

Original Quill wrote:Your complaints are boring.  You don't show much patience with the American justice system.  I don't own that problem...you do.

Virtually every Democrat in NY shares my view on this. So I'm in bad company I guess.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Your complaints are boring.  You don't show much patience with the American justice system.  I don't own that problem...you do.

Virtually every Democrat in NY shares my view on this.  So I'm in bad company I guess.  

Nobody cares about you. Why bother?

Cuomo denies any sexual assault. It's a Republican smear job, just like they played on Clinton and Biden. Fear and besmirch...that's all the tools they have anymore.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Virtually every Democrat in NY shares my view on this.  So I'm in bad company I guess.  

Nobody cares about you.  Why bother?

Cuomo denies any sexual assault.  It's a Republican smear job, just like they played on Clinton and Biden.  Fear and besmirch...that's all the tools they have anymore.

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Nobody cares about you. Why bother?

Cuomo denies any sexual assault. It's a Republican smear job, just like they played on Clinton and Biden. Fear and besmirch...that's all the tools they have anymore.

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.

Well, without an investigation, we'll never know if it's sexual assault.

But, one thing that is apparent: it's what Republicans do to all front-running Democrats. That pattern, by now, is apparent to everyone, particularly Clinton and Biden. Republicans go looking for dirt, real or not, with which to carry on a dirty campaign.

The reason why Republicans look for this stuff is they do so much of it themselves. Republicans live by way of selfishness and deception, and so it's easy, and equalizing, to create the illusion that others do it. Remember the Nixon team of 'dirty-tricksters'?

The fact that others in reality don't do that is of no consequence to them. Appearances will do as well...remember, what Trump told the Ukrainian president: an announcement of the Biden troubles by the Ukrainian government would do...they didn't have to really conduct an investigation.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

It's not about Republicans.

It's about sexual assault.

Well, without an investigation, we'll never know if it's sexual assault.

But, one thing that is apparent: it's what Republicans do to all front-running Democrats.  That pattern, by now, is apparent to everyone, particularly Clinton and Biden.  Republicans go looking for dirt, real or not, with which to carry on a dirty campaign.

The reason why Republicans look for this stuff is they do so much of it themselves.  Republicans live by way of selfishness and deception, and so it's easy, and equalizing, to create the illusion that others do it.  Remember the Nixon team of 'dirty-tricksters'?

The fact that others in reality don't do that is of no consequence to them.  Appearances will do as well...remember, what Trump told the Ukrainian president: an announcement of the Biden troubles by the Ukrainian government would do...they didn't have to really conduct an investigation.

So it's another vast right wing conspiracy.

OK Hillary.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Well, without an investigation, we'll never know if it's sexual assault.

But, one thing that is apparent: it's what Republicans do to all front-running Democrats.  That pattern, by now, is apparent to everyone, particularly Clinton and Biden.  Republicans go looking for dirt, real or not, with which to carry on a dirty campaign.

The reason why Republicans look for this stuff is they do so much of it themselves.  Republicans live by way of selfishness and deception, and so it's easy, and equalizing, to create the illusion that others do it.  Remember the Nixon team of 'dirty-tricksters'?

The fact that others in reality don't do that is of no consequence to them.  Appearances will do as well...remember, what Trump told the Ukrainian president: an announcement of the Biden troubles by the Ukrainian government would do...they didn't have to really conduct an investigation.

So it's another vast right wing conspiracy.  

OK Hillary.

Precisely. These days, it's expected...'course, these days they're all down in Georgia looking for the missing 11,781-votes.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

So it's another vast right wing conspiracy.  

OK Hillary.

Precisely.  These days, it's expected...'course, these days they're all down in Georgia looking for the missing 11,781-votes.  

Since it's the same, I expect to see the same results.  The women weren't lying about Bill and they're not lying about Cuomo.  

Not 6 of them. Doesn't happen that way.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Precisely.  These days, it's expected...'course, these days they're all down in Georgia looking for the missing 11,781-votes.  

Since it's the same, I expect to see the same results.  The women weren't lying about Bill and they're not lying about Cuomo.  

Not 6 of them. Doesn't happen that way.

He denies it. We'll have to wait until the investigation is complete.

I'm bettin' it's a routine Republican witch-hunt, aimed at a highly likely Democratic contender.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Since it's the same, I expect to see the same results.  The women weren't lying about Bill and they're not lying about Cuomo.  

Not 6 of them. Doesn't happen that way.

He denies it.  We'll have to wait until the investigation is complete.

I'm bettin' it's a routine Republican witch-hunt, aimed at a highly likely Democratic contender.  

All of them deny it.

Has Bill Cosby admitted any wrong doing?

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

He denies it.  We'll have to wait until the investigation is complete.

I'm bettin' it's a routine Republican witch-hunt, aimed at a highly likely Democratic contender.  

All of them deny it.

Has Bill Cosby admitted any wrong doing?

Has Trump?  Did Cheney admit his crimes?  Did Nixon admit his crimes?  I agree that all crooks deny their crimes.

But here we're talking about the Republican repeated scams of accusation without proof.  Do you want to admit that such was the case with Benghazi?  With Ukraine?  Perhaps...with these false scams in New York?

Or do you want to wait until a legitimate investigation is conducted.  If you don't want an investigation into the truth, it's a legitimate question as to why you do not want the facts to come out?  Do you have doubts?

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

All of them deny it.

Has Bill Cosby admitted any wrong doing?

Has Trump?  Did Cheney admit his crimes?  Did Nixon admit his crimes?  I agree that all crooks deny their crimes.

But here we're talking about the Republican repeated scams of accusation without proof.  Do you want to admit that such was the case with Benghazi?  With Ukraine?  Perhaps...with these false scams in New York?

Or do you want to wait until a legitimate investigation is conducted.  If you don't want an investigation into the truth, it's a legitimate question as to why you do not want the facts to come out?  Do you have doubts?

Trump was a piece of shit, but his poor treatment of women didn't happen while serving.

You don't have to wait for convictions for politicians to resign. Many have done the honorable thing in the past. Honorable isn't in the lexicon of people like Trump and Cuomo.

There is no reason that we can't have an investigation and have Cuomo do what his counterparts are asking.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Has Trump?  Did Cheney admit his crimes?  Did Nixon admit his crimes?  I agree that all crooks deny their crimes.

But here we're talking about the Republican repeated scams of accusation without proof.  Do you want to admit that such was the case with Benghazi?  With Ukraine?  Perhaps...with these false scams in New York?

Or do you want to wait until a legitimate investigation is conducted.  If you don't want an investigation into the truth, it's a legitimate question as to why you do not want the facts to come out?  Do you have doubts?

Trump was a piece of shit, but his poor treatment of women didn't happen while serving.

 

He was your piece of shit.  Republicans own that piece of shit.

The issue of "poor treatment of women" is a civil matter, not criminal.  Who cares on which watch it happened?

Incidentally, the cover-up happened "while serving".

Maddog wrote:You don't have to wait for convictions for politicians to resign. Many have done the honorable thing in the past. Honorable isn't in the lexicon of people like Trump and Cuomo.

There is no reason that we can't have an investigation and have Cuomo do what his counterparts are asking.

A resignation—a tacit admission of truth of the matter asserted—is a lie...and it would be to lie to the authorities. You wouldn't want to advocate lying to the authorities.

Consider: you are advocating to an official that he should break the law. That means you are an accessory.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Trump was a piece of shit, but his poor treatment of women didn't happen while serving.

 

He was your piece of shit.  Republicans own that piece of shit.

The issue of "poor treatment of women" is a civil matter, not criminal.  Who cares on which watch it happened?

Incidentally, the cover-up happened "while serving".

Not my piece of shit.

Never voted for the guy.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:You don't have to wait for convictions for politicians to resign. Many have done the honorable thing in the past. Honorable isn't in the lexicon of people like Trump and Cuomo.

There is no reason that we can't have an investigation and have Cuomo do what his counterparts are asking.

A resignation—a tacit admission of truth of the matter asserted—is a lie...and it would be to lie to the authorities.  You wouldn't want to advocate lying to the authorities.

Consider: you are advocating to an official that he should break the law.  That means you are an accessory.

So AOC is an accessory?

Should she be prosecuted too?

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

A resignation—a tacit admission of truth of the matter asserted—is a lie...and it would be to lie to the authorities.  You wouldn't want to advocate lying to the authorities.

Consider: you are advocating to an official that he should break the law.  That means you are an accessory.

So AOC is an accessory?

Should she be prosecuted too?

AOC has her opinions, but she is irrelevant to the action.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

So AOC is an accessory?

Should she be prosecuted too?

AOC has her opinions, but she is irrelevant to the action.

She's calling for him to step down.

According to you that makes her an accessory.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

AOC has her opinions, but she is irrelevant to the action.

She's calling for him to step down.

According to you that makes her an accessory.  

Only if he does step down, prior to actual proof.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

She's calling for him to step down.

According to you that makes her an accessory.  

Only if he does step down, prior to actual proof.

Have you informed her of the crime she is engaging in?

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Only if he does step down, prior to actual proof.

Have you informed her of the crime she is engaging in?

I don't know her.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Have you informed her of the crime she is engaging in?

I don't know her.

Come on..You're a very important man. You've spent years telling us that. She would be interested in your help I'm sure.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I don't know her.

Come on..You're a very important man. You've spent years  telling us that.  She would be interested in your help I'm sure.  

Me???  I'm not important.  I haven't even taught, let alone had any influence on the east coast since I taught at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, at the City University of New York.  I'm only important compared to you...but that could be accomplished by a chimpanzee.

AOC is much behind me in age.  She is part of the 'catching-up' that America has to do on LW politics, in order to connect Washingtonian Democrats with the mainstream of American politics.  God speed in her mission.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Come on..You're a very important man. You've spent years  telling us that.  She would be interested in your help I'm sure.  

Me???  I'm not important.  I haven't even taught, let alone had any influence on the east coast since I taught at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, at the City University of New York.  I'm only important compared to you...but that could be accomplished by a chimpanzee.

AOC is much behind me in age.  She is part of the 'catching-up' that America has to do on LW politics, in order to connect Washingtonian Democrats with the mainstream of American politics.  God speed in her mission.

Bwahahahahhahahahaha.

You're drunk. Sleep it off and we'll talk in the morning.

Original Quill wrote:You're drunk.  Sleep it off and we'll talk in the morning.  

Nah. Just laughing at the forum fool.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/new-york-andrew-cuomo-investigation-08-03-21/index.html


New York Attorney General Letitia James announced the conclusion of the state's investigation that found Gov. Andrew Cuomo "sexually harassed multiple women and violated state law."

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

The accusers are democrats you fucking idiot.

Like this woman.  

"Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) on Monday evening called for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to resign, after a third woman accused him of inappropriate behavior."

My goodness, you sound angry.  Southerners!  No brains, all brawn.

Republicans are really beating the bush to find faux victims for this invented non-story.  By now, Trump could have called out 20-30 women who had been harassed by him.  Still, they can only find one...three that can recall anything that can be remotely called suggestive.

I love their latest find.  They present a token who says: He asked her if he could kiss her!  Talk about politically correct...they were just greeting at a wedding reception, and HE ASKED HER!!!

It reminds me of that scene in the movie Hancock, where he's rescuing a female police officer:

John Hancock : [to pinned-down female cop]  Good job! Do I have permission to touch your body?

Female Cop : Yes!

John Hancock : It's not sexual. Not that you're not an attractive woman. You're actually a very attractive woman and...

Female Cop : [screaming]  Get me the hell out of here!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/characters/nm0000226

Anyway...sparse pickens for their big revenge move.    

WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden called on Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo to resign Tuesday, following a report that Cuomo sexually harassed 11 women.

“He should resign,” Biden told reporters at the White House.

Asked whether Cuomo should be removed from office if he refuses to resign, Biden said, “I understand the state legislature may decide to impeach, I do not know that for a fact.”

Shortly after Biden’s response, New York State House Speaker Carl Heastie (D) announced the launch of an impeachment inquiry.

In calling on Cuomo to step down, Biden joined nearly every other major Democratic lawmaker in both Albany and Washington. But from atop the party leadership, Biden’s demand carries more weight than others.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/03/biden-calls-on-cuomo-to-resign-after-bombshell-sexual-harassment-report.html


Quill, proved to be full of shit again.

Cuomo denies any wrongdoing.

Original Quill wrote:Cuomo denies any wrongdoing.

So did Epstein.

Are you going to defend that piece of trash too?

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Cuomo denies any wrongdoing.

So did Epstein.

Are you going to defend that piece of trash too?

Epstein was quite open about his crimes, and anyway, Trump murdered him before any evidentiary hearing could be had.

Nevertheless, had Epstein denied his sex crimes, he would be entitled to an evidentiary hearing as well.  It's in the Constitution.

I wish we could have questioned Epstein in an Evidentiary Hearing. He would have told us a lot about his associates and their activities.

But, I guess that's why he was murdered.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

So did Epstein.

Are you going to defend that piece of trash too?

Epstein was quite open about his crimes, and anyway, Trump murdered him before any evidentiary hearing could be had.

Nevertheless, had Epstein denied his sex crimes, he would be entitled to an evidentiary hearing as well.  It's in the Constitution.

No he wasn't.

Nevertheless, no one is saying Cuomo should be arrested, only resign.

Yet, anyway.

As Cuomo flounders in New York, national Democrats rushed to distance themselves from him. New York's Democratic US senators, Kirsten Gillibrand and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, issued a joint statement calling the report's findings "profoundly disturbing, inappropriate and completely unacceptable" and reiterating their March call for Cuomo to resign. Other New York lawmakers similarly said the third-term governor must go — including Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the political group charged with protecting the party's majority in the 2022 midterm elections. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a longtime ally of the Cuomo family, also said the governor should resign.

Maddog wrote:As Cuomo flounders in New York, national Democrats rushed to distance themselves from him. New York's Democratic US senators, Kirsten Gillibrand and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, issued a joint statement calling the report's findings "profoundly disturbing, inappropriate and completely unacceptable" and reiterating their March call for Cuomo to resign. Other New York lawmakers similarly said the third-term governor must go — including Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the political group charged with protecting the party's majority in the 2022 midterm elections. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a longtime ally of the Cuomo family, also said the governor should resign.

They are all of a different faction of the Democratic Party.  Republicans are also calling for Cuomo's resignation...you might've noticed.  The Democrats who want Cuomo to resign are in league with the Trumpsters.

Ignore them.  

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:As Cuomo flounders in New York, national Democrats rushed to distance themselves from him. New York's Democratic US senators, Kirsten Gillibrand and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, issued a joint statement calling the report's findings "profoundly disturbing, inappropriate and completely unacceptable" and reiterating their March call for Cuomo to resign. Other New York lawmakers similarly said the third-term governor must go — including Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the political group charged with protecting the party's majority in the 2022 midterm elections. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a longtime ally of the Cuomo family, also said the governor should resign.

They are all of a different faction of the Democratic Party.  Republicans are also calling for Cuomo's resignation...you might've noticed.  The Democrats who want Cuomo to resign are in league with the Trumpsters.

Ignore them.  

AOC is in league with the Trumpsters?

Nancy Pelosi?

Joe Biden?

These are Trumpsters?

Nah, you're just a lying sack of shit.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

They are all of a different faction of the Democratic Party. Republicans are also calling for Cuomo's resignation...you might've noticed. The Democrats who want Cuomo to resign are in league with the Trumpsters.

Ignore them.

AOC is in league with the Trumpsters?

Nancy Pelosi?

Joe Biden?

These are Trumpsters?

Nah, you're just a lying sack of shit.

And you're a dumb fookin' southerner, who totes guns and beats his wimmin.

Haha...the simple fact is that political bedmates are made by such situations. Sure, Republicans (and probably you) cheat on their own women, so frequently that they would love to turn the heat on a Democrat. And AOC, Pelosi and Biden are simply riding the winds of currently popular issues. All you have proven is a very trite euphemism: Politics make strange bedfellows!

The simple fact is, He denies it. No matter how hard you try to prejudge him, his denial will stand until a full evidentiary hearing is had and a panel of jurors vote against him. It’s so simple, even a southerner can get it.