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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:16 pm

A documentary about ‘Gay Pride’ that advocates the erasure of lesbians and gays.

Ashley Joiner’s recent doc ‘Are You Proud’ is a beautifully told history of the rise of Pride marches from the struggles for decriminalisation onwards.

During a section about Trans Pride Brighton comes an interview that sums up the attitude of the trans movement towards lesbians, gays and bisexuals and indeed anyone who believes they have a sexual orientation (yep that’s you straight folks too).

It also sums up the existential danger that extreme trans ideas and activism pose to LGB people not least because it so unashamedly advocates the sexual equivalent of ‘ethnic cleansing’. At 33 minutes in Transgender activist Joy Everingham declares:

“Trans pride is quite challenging to LGB people because if gender is on a spectrum then homosexuality doesn’t really exist, because it can only exist in a binary.”

Well, yes that does sound challenging. Not content with redefining ‘women’ so they become a subset of ‘blokes’ with no rights to self association or their own spaces trans activists have now decided that lesbians and gays are to be erased entirely. The same sex attraction we fought to have recognised is expunged along with ‘sex’ and ‘sexuality’.

Obviously it won’t stop with us. If they insist ‘sex’ doesn’t exist and fixed sexual orientations are kaput then heterosexuality will also be in their sights. And that’s exactly why these weirdos are so active in schools trying to get inside the minds of children who if left alone would grow .up to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or (the vast majority) straight. The shocking thing is that Joy Deacon sounds so reasonable & smiles so charmingly while promoting an attitude straight out of Putin or Orban’s handbook: the total delegitimisation of being gay.

But...that’s the thing about trans advocacy. It cross dresses as tolerant and well-meaning while actually being a dangerous form of supremacy that insists everyone else must be co-opted on to planet Trans.

https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1204417413527195656

https://twitter.com/AllianceLGB/status/1204493070512906243

Point of order here. My view is not against trans people here, but those who promote this ideology which is literally trying to remove the rights of females, gays, lesbians etc from the equality act


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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:26 pm

Thorin wrote:A documentary about ‘Gay Pride’ that advocates the erasure of lesbians and gays.

Ashley Joiner’s recent doc ‘Are You Proud’ is a beautifully told history of the rise of Pride marches from the struggles for decriminalisation onwards.

During a section about Trans Pride Brighton comes an interview that sums up the attitude of the trans movement towards lesbians, gays and bisexuals and indeed anyone who believes they have a sexual orientation (yep that’s you straight folks too).

It also sums up the existential danger that extreme trans ideas and activism pose to LGB people not least because it so unashamedly advocates the sexual equivalent of ‘ethnic cleansing’. At 33 minutes in Transgender activist Joy Everingham declares:

“Trans pride is quite challenging to LGB people because if gender is on a spectrum then homosexuality doesn’t really exist, because it can only exist in a binary.”

Well, yes that does sound challenging. Not content with redefining ‘women’ so they become a subset of ‘blokes’ with no rights to self association or their own spaces trans activists have now decided that lesbians and gays are to be erased entirely. The same sex attraction we fought to have recognised is expunged along with ‘sex’ and ‘sexuality’.

Obviously it won’t stop with us. If they insist ‘sex’ doesn’t exist and fixed sexual orientations are kaput then heterosexuality will also be in their sights. And that’s exactly why these weirdos are so active in schools trying to get inside the minds of children who if left alone would grow .up to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or (the vast majority) straight. The shocking thing is that Joy Deacon sounds so reasonable & smiles so charmingly while promoting an attitude straight out of Putin or Orban’s handbook: the total delegitimisation of being gay.

But...that’s the thing about trans advocacy. It cross dresses as tolerant and well-meaning while actually being a dangerous form of supremacy that insists everyone else must be co-opted on to planet Trans.

https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1204417413527195656

https://twitter.com/AllianceLGB/status/1204493070512906243

Point of order here. My view is not against trans people here, but those who promote this ideology which is literally trying to remove the rights of females, gays, lesbians etc from the equality act

If the above does not concern you enough and how these extremists are also by doing so. Actually creating problems for trans people with their beliefs also with their extreme beliefs. When many simple want to live their lives as they choose without these extremists creating unwarranted problems by their beliefs.

Just look at the views here in regards to Lesbians by some extreme trans women (one of them a famous cyclist). Where one claims they have committed rape by deception and the other thinks its trans-phobic not to want to sleep with one that has a penis. This is what is so alarming that a lesbian who is only attracted to the same sex female. Can be labelled with such hate, because she does not want to sleep with a biological male who appears as a woman. They do not care about sex based rights or sexual orientation. They are literally trying to discard biological facts 

If this was not bad enough. Stonewall has persuaded Universities to adopt policies that claim a view that gender overwrites sexuality based on Sex. That a trans woman, again with a dick can be a lesbian. Its simple nuts. Universities are now adopting said policies from Stonewall on this.

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https://twitter.com/drlouisejmoody/status/1204422245080281089


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Post by Eilzel on Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:38 am

It won't succeed. And for the record I obviously completely disagree with anyone saying that refusing to have sex with a trans person is transphobic. That's as nonsensical as saying I'm sexist for not wanting to have sex with a woman.

The whole sexuality/gender issue is going through a weird phase now though, where the 'identity' is becoming more important that the original ideal for LGBT people (at least most of us) - that ideal is that one day the discussion of who you prefer to sleep with never even comes up. The ideal future is one where your kid comes home from school one day and brings their boyfriend/girlfriend and it doesn't matter a jot what gender either of them are.

The whole non-binary, sexuality spectrum is really messing this up now, since 'identity' is becoming more important than being accepted whatever.

I honestly still believe this is a flash in the pan though, and will eventually fade as the obscure thing it is. Hopefully naturally.


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Post by 'Wolfie on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 am

Arrow

Chairman Mao's China tried for more than three decades to remove "gender" from everyday life...

And they didn't get anywhere there, with their misguided 'social engineering' experiment..


P.S.  I wonder where those universities are, who supposedly are implementing those transgender/non-gender policies --  I would like to hear of even one uni' administration who has made it official policy --  as opposed to a handful of pisante British student unions who are trying to impose unofficial radical guidelines  ?

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Post by eddie on Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:45 pm

Good post Les. alien

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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:14 pm

Eilzel wrote:It won't succeed. And for the record I obviously completely disagree with anyone saying that refusing to have sex with a trans person is transphobic. That's as nonsensical as saying I'm sexist for not wanting to have sex with a woman.

The whole sexuality/gender issue is going through a weird phase now though, where the 'identity' is becoming more important that the original ideal for LGBT people (at least most of us) - that ideal is that one day the discussion of who you prefer to sleep with never even comes up. The ideal future is one where your kid comes home from school one day and brings their boyfriend/girlfriend and it doesn't matter a jot what gender either of them are.

The whole non-binary, sexuality spectrum is really messing this up now, since 'identity' is becoming more important than being accepted whatever.

I honestly still believe this is a flash in the pan though, and will eventually fade as the obscure thing it is. Hopefully naturally.


Sadly its not a flash when Universities and organisations are changing policies surrounding these new ideological views

Yes they are being done to be from a position of good, but are ending up creating far more problems, for females, homosexuals, bisexuals etc. They are trying to erase sex and supersede this with gender

You are going to see this become more and more divisive, where people will feel their very identity which is currently protected in law. Will lose any relevant meaning

Lets see how this pans out

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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:18 pm

'Wolfie wrote:Arrow

Chairman Mao's China tried for more than three decades to remove "gender" from everyday life...

And they didn't get anywhere there, with their misguided 'social engineering' experiment..


P.S.  I wonder where those universities are, who supposedly are implementing those transgender/non-gender policies --  I would like to hear of even one uni' administration who has made it official policy --  as opposed to a handful of pisante British student unions who are trying to impose unofficial radical guidelines  ?

Some are already getting into trouble over this by placing policies that are in conflict with the 2010 equality act

Again this has been driven by Stonewall and its why now a new group LBC has broken away from them. As they are placing trans rights above everything else. Through such views to literally erase sex based rights and as seen now sexuality.

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