Children left in tears after being told 'Father Christmas isn't real' by Christian charity worker who made them smash up chocolate Santas to 'hammer home the point'

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:14 am

Children as young as four were reportedly left in tears after being told Santa was 'made up' during a Christian assembly.

Pupils were then asked to smash up chocolate versions of St Nicholas and his reindeer to hammer home the point.

Parents said their children had come home feeling devastated following the sermon by a children's worker from a Christian charity.

The head teacher of Fleet Wood Lane School in Spalding, Lincolnshire, insisted that the children were not told 'Santa does not exist', but has since apologised and said the school would no longer be working with the group. The Mary Bass Charity, which seeks to 'further the religious and other charitable work of the Church Of England' in the Lincolnshire district of South Holland, said it was investigating.

It is understood the woman delivering the assembly on Thursday was trying to explain to children that Jesus was the reason behind Christmas, not Santa, who had been 'made up'.

They were asked to demonstrate they understood that there was more to Christmas than sweets and presents by smashing up the chocolate.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6469835/Children-left-tears-told-Father-Christmas-isnt-real-Christian-charity-worker.html

by veya_victaous Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:50 am

now they need to find some chocolate Jesus's and bibles to smash up Children left in tears after being told 'Father Christmas isn't real' by Christian charity worker who made them smash up chocolate Santas to 'hammer home the point' 2190311264

Children left in tears after being told 'Father Christmas isn't real' by Christian charity worker who made them smash up chocolate Santas to 'hammer home the point' 2190311264

by 'Wolfie Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:06 pm

A deranged mad woman terrorising 4-year-old children by smashing up chocolate Santas, while ranting on about Jesus !?!

That "Christian charity" from the CofE certainly needs to take a long hard look at how they choose, screen and train their workers out in the field..

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:32 pm

Thor wrote:Children as young as four were reportedly left in tears after being told Santa was 'made up' during a Christian assembly.

Pupils were then asked to smash up chocolate versions of St Nicholas and his reindeer to hammer home the point.

Parents said their children had come home feeling devastated following the sermon by a children's worker from a Christian charity.

The head teacher of Fleet Wood Lane School in Spalding, Lincolnshire, insisted that the children were not told 'Santa does not exist', but has since apologised and said the school would no longer be working with the group. The Mary Bass Charity, which seeks to 'further the religious and other charitable work of the Church Of England' in the Lincolnshire district of South Holland, said it was investigating.

It is understood the woman delivering the assembly on Thursday was trying to explain to children that Jesus was the reason behind Christmas, not Santa, who had been 'made up'.

They were asked to demonstrate they understood that there was more to Christmas than sweets and presents by smashing up the chocolate.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6469835/Children-left-tears-told-Father-Christmas-isnt-real-Christian-charity-worker.html

At least she didn't molest them. There are some real weirdo religious nut jobs out there.

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:49 pm

so HA, you dont think something like this is ALSO abuse, psychological doubtless, but still abuse....

by Original Quill Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:18 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so HA, you dont think something like this is ALSO abuse, psychological doubtless, but still abuse....

When did you become so pc, Vic?

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:28 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so HA, you dont think something like this is ALSO abuse, psychological doubtless, but still abuse....

A question of degrees.
I am sure 4 year olds will not suffer long term or permanent mental scarring with the knowledge that Santa isn't real, as opposed to sexual or physical abuse, which WILL stay WITH them for life.
Do they know about the tooth fairy?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:34 pm

Andy wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:so HA, you dont think something like this is ALSO abuse, psychological doubtless, but still abuse....

A question of degrees.
I am sure 4 tear olds will not suffer long term or permanent mental scarring with the knowledge that Santa isn't real, as opposed to sexual or physical abuse, which WILL stay WITH them for life.
Do they know about the tooth fairy?

Based on what?

First of all do you understand the most important age range on chidlren, which will be instrumental in how they mentally develope?

How is smashing up chocolate, which is a form of violence. In anyway a good teaching method for children?

If the view is to smash things seen as bad. How long will it be for one of this kids to smash something else they view to be bad?

Another kid for example?

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:40 pm

From experience.

How many kids do you have, Didge?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:44 pm

Andy wrote:From experience.

How many kids do you have, Didge?

What experince?

You think teaching 4 year olds to smash things is a good or bad thing?

Yes or no?

You simple again do not know what you are talking about which is clear by failing to answer my questions.

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:45 pm

Andy wrote:

How many kids do you have, Didge?

And what has that got to do with kids smasking things and the mental health effect it will have on them?

Stop diverting and answer the points

Based on what?

First of all do you understand the most important age range on chidlren, which will be instrumental in how they mentally develope?

How is smashing up chocolate, which is a form of violence. In anyway a good teaching method for children?

If the view is to smash things seen as bad. How long will it be for one of this kids to smash something else they view to be bad?

Another kid for example?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Parents said many took this to mean Santa did not exist. One mother, whose youngest child at the school is four years old, said: 'My children said two children were asked to come to the front of the hall and smash chocolate Santas and reindeer with hammers to symbolise they were not what Christmas was all about.

'They were encouraged to do this by the offer that they could take the chocolate home afterwards, and were also told that if they didn't believe in God and Jesus they would go to hell.

'Many of the children took that to mean that Santa was not real. My children were quite upset and we had to reassure them that he was and they would still be getting presents this year.'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/12/07/private-schools-socialism-action-head-hmc-says/

Not only were they blackmailing the children, but also to smash up chocolate in the image of Santa and animals

And Andy, does not think this could be damaging?

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:03 pm

And just to shut the kids up if they get too annoying, show them that Santa's reindeer cannot follow Rundolfs red nose as they cannot see red!

https://mol.im/a/6471203

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:05 pm

So Andy runs away again

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:07 pm

I think having successfully parented 2 girls from birth to a BA and an Msc at uni give me the edge over someone who won't even answer the question of how many kids he has had and brought up.
Is Didge an armchair child psychologist, knows the theory, but cannot change a nappy?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:11 pm

Andy wrote:I think having successfully parented 2 girls from birth to a BA and an Msc at uni give me the edge over someone who won't even answer the question of how many kids he has had and brought up.
Is Didge an armchair child psychologist, knows the theory, but cannot change a nappy?

So what....

It shows you still fail to answer the questions and understand

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

Its no good acting like a little bitch again, because I expose your stupidity

Either answer the question or actually educate that dumb fuckwit brain of yours

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:15 pm

Thor wrote:So Andy runs away again

WTF are you gibbering on about?

A debate, argument or conversation between 2 parties involves alternating comments, unlike what you often do by starting a thread then simply replying to yourself.
I asked the first question Dodgy, how many kids have,YOU raised from birth, through first steps, first word, potty training, nursery school infants, primary, secondary, GCSEs, A levels then to university.
My 2 are now brilliant, sensible well respected adults. I think that makes me pretty damned well qualified

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:17 pm

Andy wrote:
Thor wrote:So Andy runs away again

WTF are you gibbering on about?

A debate, argument or conversation between 2 parties involves alternating comments, unlike what you often do by starting a thread then simply replying to yourself.
I asked the first question Dodgy, how many kids have,YOU raised from birth, through first steps, first word, potty training, nursery school infants, primary, secondary, GCSEs, A levels then to university.
My 2 are now brilliant, sensible well respected adults. I think that makes me pretty damned well qualified

So fucking what that you have raised two girls and Iam not got to measure dicks, based around achievements on my daughters and yours.

Its utterly irrelevant and a pathetic way to avoid the questions

So stop acting like a bitch and answer

For the fifth time

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:17 pm

Thor wrote:
Andy wrote:I think having successfully parented 2 girls from birth to a BA and an Msc at uni give me the edge over someone who won't even answer the question of how many kids he has had and brought up.
Is Didge an armchair child psychologist, knows the theory, but cannot change a nappy?

So what....

It shows you still fail to answer the questions and understand

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

Its no good acting like a little bitch again, because I expose your stupidity

Either answer the question or actually educate that dumb fuckwit brain of yours

Did you learn all about child raising from a text book? Did you know they don't cover every dynamically changing scenario?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:19 pm

Andy wrote:
Thor wrote:

So what....

It shows you still fail to answer the questions and understand

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

Its no good acting like a little bitch again, because I expose your stupidity

Either answer the question or actually educate that dumb fuckwit brain of yours

Did you learn all about child raising from a text book? Did you know they don't cover every dynamically changing scenario?

Oh dear, someone simple cannot answer a question and continues to divert

Which is what the left constantly do

For the sixth time asking

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:21 pm

Thor wrote:
Andy wrote:

WTF are you gibbering on about?

A debate, argument or conversation between 2 parties involves alternating comments, unlike what you often do by starting a thread then simply replying to yourself.
I asked the first question Dodgy, how many kids have,YOU raised from birth, through first steps, first word, potty training, nursery school infants, primary, secondary, GCSEs, A levels then to university.
My 2 are now brilliant, sensible well respected adults. I think that makes me pretty damned well qualified

So fucking what that you have raised two girls and Iam not got to measure dicks, based around achievements on my daughters and yours.

Its utterly irrelevant and a pathetic way to avoid the questions

So stop acting like a bitch and answer

For the fifth time

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

Paddy paddy!
Boo hoo. Wails Dodgy.

Outed that his child raising expertise and understanding of the child psyche comes from a book, not from a screaming child that you produced, will nurture for all it's life and you would die yourself or kill to protect from evil.

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:24 pm

Would someone purleaaase tell Dodgy that I am cannot be bothered to get into a row over child welfare, education and safety from a bloke whose only apparent expertise and experience comes from a text book and a lecture room.

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:24 pm

Andy wrote:
Thor wrote:

So fucking what that you have raised two girls and Iam not got to measure dicks, based around achievements on my daughters and yours.

Its utterly irrelevant and a pathetic way to avoid the questions

So stop acting like a bitch and answer

For the fifth time

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

Paddy paddy!
Boo hoo. Wails Dodgy.

Outed that his child raising expertise and understanding of the child psyche comes from a book, not from a screaming child that you produced, will nurture for all it's life and you would die yourself or kill to protect from evil.

This shows why you have the intellect of a toddler

I tried to help you understand that you do not know what you are talking about

Hence why you have continued to avoid the question

You go off your own daughters, not understanding that has zero relevance. Nor does it to how you raised them

As did you ever teach them to smash up things at four years of age in the image of santa and animals? Or smash up anything at that age.

The answer is no, hence how you raised your children has zero bearing

Do you understand that dummy?

Now for the seventh time asking

Again, do you think teaching children to smash up things in the images of santa and animals is a good or bad on their mental health?

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:31 pm

Andy wrote:Would someone purleaaase tell Dodgy that I am cannot be bothered to get into a row over child welfare, education and safety from a bloke whose only apparent expertise and experience comes from a text book and a lecture room.

I have experince of rasing children and understanding what psychologically effects children

You have experince in rasing children, but have a toddlers understanding of the psychological effects on children

Hence you acted again like a whingy little bitch and tried to bring in families into this, like the immature idiot you are

I asked you a simple question from the start and you diverted so badly, you still ended up looking like a whingy little bitch

So run away, I will take that as proof, you have not a clue what you are talking about

Laughing

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:41 pm

How many children have you fathered and brought up. Like EVERY argument you get embrioled in, you vainly attempt to portray yourself as a world leading expert. Whether it is climate, politics, philosophy, physiology or even child raising.
Accept that you are not.
Laters. Stuff to do.

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:46 pm

Andy wrote:How many children have you gathered and brought up. Like EVERY argument you get embrioled in, you vainly attempt to portray yourself as a world leading expert. Whether it is climate, politics, philosophy, physiology or even child raising.
Accept that you are not.
Laters. Stuff to do.

Again what has that got to do with the question I asked?

Seriously?

This is what is wrong with the left today

You just sum it up above

I asked you some simple questions

You dodged them all and went off some warped view around who's daughters were raised best. Failing to even understand, what effect teaching kids. At the ages of four, and based off a view something is bad, to act in a violent manner off this, might have on them.

This all went over your head and instead, you acted like a toddler yourself.

Unless the left can actually start to take any criticism or even advice, they simple will never learn.

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:16 pm

Well, you are the world's leading expert in psychology and behavioural analysts.
I assume you are aware that some people absolutely MUST have the last word..
I will leave it to you to have the last word.

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:17 pm

Andy wrote:Well, you are the world's leading expert in psychology and behavioural analysts.
I assume you are aware that some people absolutely MUST have the last word..
I will leave it to you to have the last word.

Thank you for proving my point what is wrong with the left

Yes I will have the last word here to again show what is immature about the left on here

You dont want to even understand you could be wrong here and simple acted like a child

I dont think I am a world leading expert. That is you again trying to divert the debate, because you simple do not know what you are talking about and again acting like a child

Grow up

by Andy Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:12 pm

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201605/do-you-or-your-partner-always-need-have-the-last-word

by Guest Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:18 pm

Does Andy think we are a couple now?

Children left in tears after being told 'Father Christmas isn't real' by Christian charity worker who made them smash up chocolate Santas to 'hammer home the point' 3489511464

Oh fuck me, that had me rolling on the floor

Thanks again Andy, for proving what a sourpuss you really are.

Where again you do not want to listen to people or believe you might be wrong

Go figure

Anyway, thanks for the laugh, that was Priceless

lol!

by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:49 am

Didge, I think the message he was probably trying to convey is that two people will never come to a better understanding if they're always trying to "win" rather than understand.

by Guest Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:54 am

*~[THE Ben Reilly]~* wrote:Didge, I think the message he was probably trying to convey is that two people will never come to a better understanding if they're always trying to "win" rather than understand.

Actually, there was no message, when he was never attempting to listen in the first place. Attempt to make it personal about families. Failing again to understand such acts could leave damaging effects on children

He never once wanted to discuss the matter and thought his raising of two children was suffiecient to ignore my points

In fact it was nothing but ignorance, which again is what I constantly expect from the left today

This is not about me winning, yet again proving the left constantly sterotype the right poorly

As what is there to win here?

I simple posed points which he clearly did not understand. What is then wrong by me injecting the view, that this could be damaging?

You need to get this dumb view out of your head, this is about winning

If it is for you, then dont make the same mistake, others share the same as you

I am hear to debate and reason my points, but the left on here constantly avoid, dodge and deflect

by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 am

You win.

by Guest Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:19 am

*~[THE Ben Reilly]~* wrote:You win.

by Raggamuffin Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:35 am

Nobody can really get inside the head of a child anyway, but they can perhaps remember how they would have felt as a child if they'd been told that Father Christmas didn't exist.

We never called him "Santa" by the way, and he never wore that Americanised uniform. snobby

by 'Wolfie Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:30 pm

Thor wrote:
*~[THE Ben Reilly]~* wrote:
You win.

What's up with Dodge today...

Drunk again ???

by Andy Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:44 pm

No. He just tried to prove he is the best parent in the world.
And knows more about the way kids think, act and respond to parents and other adults.
Which he learned from a book and in a lecture room.

by Guest Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:57 pm

Andy wrote:No. He just tried to prove he is the best parent in the world.
And knows more about the way kids think, act and respond to parents and other adults.
Which he learned from a book and in a lecture room.

And the left continue to lie again

Show me in any post where I claimed I was the best parent?

Never did, it was actually you trying to measure dicks on this going off what your daughters had achieved

This is the reason you continuer to act like a child and still refuse to answer a very simple question

Hence again proving what is wrong with the left

The fact is Andy, you are a right little cunt at the best of times, trying to shit stir and frankly I am enjoy making you look an even bigger cunt

Laughing

by Vintage Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:25 pm

Who cares who is the best or most successful dad.
The point is hundreds of thousands of children have grown up with the Nativity and Father Christmas side by side and very successfully, there aren't thousands of traumatised kids out there, until now at least, most have gently found out its mainly make believe. If we start being ultra honest Disney is in real trouble as are Hans Christian Anderson and the Brothers Grimm.

by Andy Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:33 pm

Thor wrote:
Andy wrote:No. He just tried to prove he is the best parent in the world.
And knows more about the way kids think, act and respond to parents and other adults.
Which he learned from a book and in a lecture room.

And the left continue to lie again

Show me in any post where I claimed I was the best parent?

Never did, it was actually you trying to measure dicks on this going off what your daughters had achieved

This is the reason you continuer to act like a child and still refuse to answer a very simple question

Hence again proving what is wrong with the left

The fact is Andy, you are a right little cunt at the best of times, trying to shit stir and frankly I am enjoy making you look an even bigger cunt

Which is the highlight of your life.

by Andy Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:49 am

Had I made those comments to another poster or a moderator, Lord Foul would without question have banned me.
Which begs the question, is this acceptable language from Dodgy Thor?

by Guest Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:03 am

Andy wrote:Had I made those comments to another poster or a moderator, Lord Foul would without question have banned me.
Which begs the question, is this acceptable language from Dodgy Thor?

And Andy still being a little shit stirrer trying to get posters in trouble

Maybe if you did not constantly lie out of your arse and spoils threads as you did with this one, people would not call you a cunt

So go and have a good cry you pathetic little snowflake

No where is there a rule against swearing and thus you would not have been banned, so stop sulking like a baby

by Andy Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:12 pm

Who made you a moderator?

I know you have always wanted to be one. Perhaps Ben will let you be one one day.

by Guest Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:17 pm

Andy wrote:Who made you a moderator?

I know you have always wanted to be one. Perhaps Ben will let you be one one day.

I suggest you look at the rules again

So not claiming to be a mod and again I was offered to be one and turned it down because of fragile lefties like yourself

Knowing you would constantly whinge and moan

Ask Ben yourself, how I turned this down..

Its hilarious you are still sulking Laughing

Next time actually engage in the debate and if you do not know something. Which was the case here. Dont start looking to create trouble by lying

Good luck

by Andy Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:51 pm

But you dont do debate , dialogue or discussion. From you only comes monologue and one way diatribe.
Which is why people are bored with you.

by Guest Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:06 pm

Andy wrote:But you dont do debate , dialogue or discussion. From you only come monologue and one way diatribe.
Which is why people are bored with you.

Yet more excuses, showing again you cannot look to yourself as the cause

For some reason I have plenty engage in debate with me. Which is odd based on your claim they are bored to do so.

Laughing

The reality is and again is based around the left can certainly be critical towards others, but cannot take criticism themselves

Frankly people are fed up with the drivel and wetwipe mindset the left has to offer

by Raggamuffin Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:46 pm

Such a silly argument over a chocolate santa. Razz

by Andy Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:39 pm

A nice song for Dodgy.

by Guest Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:41 pm

ha ha ha, that is brilliant

Thanks Andy

Laughing

by eddie Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:43 pm

I don’t understand why these fucktard charity workers thought that was even a good idea. Some things in life are okay, they will always be okay. Some things are fine the way they are.

Children believing in Father Christmas is one of them.

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