Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
+5
Raggamuffin
Original Quill
magica
nicko
Syl
9 posters
Page 3 of 9
Page 3 of 9 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
First topic message reminder :
CAMPAIGNERS blasted a judge after she acquitted a boyfriend of controlling behaviour - because his ex was too "strong and capable" to be considered a victim.
The second female judge this week who seems clueless in regard to crimes against women.
Paul Measor taught their one year old son to tell his mum to Fuck off, and encouraged the tot to call her a slut and a slag.
He subjected Lauren Smith to daily abuse, both physical and mental, which included spitting in her face.
District judge Helen Cousins decided because his victim was a " strong and capable" woman this didnt have enough effect on her to warrant finding him guilty of using controlling and coercive behaviour.
He was convicted of common assault and sentenced to 5 months in prison.
Do these judges not live in the real world?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7808081/abusive-boyfriend-girlfriend-too-strong/
CAMPAIGNERS blasted a judge after she acquitted a boyfriend of controlling behaviour - because his ex was too "strong and capable" to be considered a victim.
The second female judge this week who seems clueless in regard to crimes against women.
Paul Measor taught their one year old son to tell his mum to Fuck off, and encouraged the tot to call her a slut and a slag.
He subjected Lauren Smith to daily abuse, both physical and mental, which included spitting in her face.
District judge Helen Cousins decided because his victim was a " strong and capable" woman this didnt have enough effect on her to warrant finding him guilty of using controlling and coercive behaviour.
He was convicted of common assault and sentenced to 5 months in prison.
Do these judges not live in the real world?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7808081/abusive-boyfriend-girlfriend-too-strong/
Syl- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 23619
Join date : 2015-11-12
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I think that what you did was wrong actually. It was up to your daughter to sort it out, it wasn't up to you to try to destroy his life and his future. You stalked him basically. However, you weren't violent. Don't tell me I'm "incapable" when you're clearly off your head.
So someone absued to you, because they did not act quick enough is in the wrong to you
This is what is wrong here
Why are you not even talking about what he did wrong?
Its what bores me with Gelico
She is intelligent but fails to see what is wrong when she defends idiots like you
The view is to castigate the victim only
When have you actually talked about what this wanker did?
I mean maybe youd and gelico are epxerts in mental health and nobodys suffers mental abuse and they shiuld simple get up and leave
The pair of you are inherantly ignorant on this and should ashamed
To place the blame on the victim here, shows neither of you have a clue
Oooh, you're being mean to me now Didge. I'm telling the police!
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:gelico wrote:
your analogies are so extreme and ludicrous
this woman was in a relationship that did not involve politics nor changes in the law nor the army FFS!
she was not chained up in the house, this bloke had his own business. she could have at any point grabbed the kid and gone and sought refuge with him.
i've said before, i know it's not easy and she had to get to a point where she had had enough and wasn't going to take any more, good for her.
if there was a thread discussing the best chocolates you would somehow bring it down to the jews and the nazis
FFS! It gets so boring
Why?
because it is
AllI ever see is you constantly defend women
i'm not defending her as such, i'm saying that she should have ended the situation long ago, i get that she found it too difficult and i'm glad she found the strength to finally leave, what's wrong with that
Its very telling gelico, even when the argument made by Rags, makes grooming gang victims and domestic violence victims to blame ands yet you tak Rags side
i agreed with some of her comments, this isn't about raggs it's about the article
You ignore all her arguments and go off nothing you know about this woman and make a judgements on what you have read in the paper
of course i'm judging what i read, that's what the OP is about
You should be ashamed
why?
You have no idea of her her mental health and made views on a media story?
because that's what we're all discussing
How about you stop acting like a child and actually act like an adult for one and admit when you might be wrong Gelico?
why are you so concerned about my opinion? you have yours, i have mine
I have no problem doing this
well, go on then
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Why?
AllI ever see is you constantly defend women
Its very telling gelico, even when the argument made by Rags, makes grooming gang victims and domestic violence victims to blame ands yet you tak Rags side
You ignore all her arguments and go off nothing you know about this woman and make a judgements on what you have read in the paper
You should be ashamed
You have no idea of her her mental health and made views on a media story?
How about you stop acting like a child and actually act like an adult for one and admit when you might be wrong Gelico?
I have no problem doing this
She's speaking for herself - nothing to do with me. You're now getting nasty with yet another person - another woman.
Here we go victimology again
Does Gelico, think I am being nasty to her?
Or being honest?
You sound like a leftist that criicism is now seen as abuse
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
She's speaking for herself - nothing to do with me. You're now getting nasty with yet another person - another woman.
Here we go victimology again
Does Gelico, think I am being nasty to her?
Or being honest?
You sound like a leftist that criicism is now seen as abuse
I don't know what she thinks, I'm telling you what I see.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Thor wrote:
Why?
because it is
AllI ever see is you constantly defend women
i'm not defending her as such, i'm saying that she should have ended the situation long ago, i get that she found it too difficult and i'm glad she found the strength to finally leave, what's wrong with that
Its very telling gelico, even when the argument made by Rags, makes grooming gang victims and domestic violence victims to blame ands yet you tak Rags side
i agreed with some of her comments, this isn't about raggs it's about the article
You ignore all her arguments and go off nothing you know about this woman and make a judgements on what you have read in the paper
of course i'm judging what i read, that's what the OP is about
You should be ashamed
why?
You have no idea of her her mental health and made views on a media story?
because that's what we're all discussing
How about you stop acting like a child and actually act like an adult for one and admit when you might be wrong Gelico?
why are you so concerned about my opinion? you have yours, i have mine
I have no problem doing this
well, go on then
1) You are so full of it gelico
So lets put this to the test
If a victim of domestic violence and abuse stays with someone
Are they to blame or the abuser?
2) You are dodging every point
So do you think mean names caused the holocasut or not?
Defend her all you like, but you are a coward Gelico for never pulling her up on poor points she makes
That is a fact
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Here we go victimology again
Does Gelico, think I am being nasty to her?
Or being honest?
You sound like a leftist that criicism is now seen as abuse
I don't know what she thinks, I'm telling you what I see.
Have you been able to see without your blinkers off yet?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
So here we go
Rags blames the victim
Gelico backs her
I reasoned against this
Gelico is blind to my points
To me, gelico is inherantly biased to females
Not once did she question some very poor views made by rags
She actually questioned mine
WTF
That is whay I think there is a girlie group mentality here
How else could Gelico not challenge Rags views here, unless she thinkls the grooming victims were at fault?
Hence why I tire of this forum, so many people are dishonest
I trust me lord, Ben, Eddie etc but others are full of it
Rags blames the victim
Gelico backs her
I reasoned against this
Gelico is blind to my points
To me, gelico is inherantly biased to females
Not once did she question some very poor views made by rags
She actually questioned mine
WTF
That is whay I think there is a girlie group mentality here
How else could Gelico not challenge Rags views here, unless she thinkls the grooming victims were at fault?
Hence why I tire of this forum, so many people are dishonest
I trust me lord, Ben, Eddie etc but others are full of it
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
We're not on the same page then because I don't consider that being mean is the same as violence.
Thats because you are incapable of understanding the difference between "being mean" and psychological violence
I'm "being mean" to my grand daughter when I tell her shes got a big bum (even though she hasnt and knows it)
I was psychologically violent to my daughters ex when I posted to his employers copies of the vile and soul destroying messages he sent my daughter, resulting in his dismissal, then sent the entire bundle to his next two employers after he was with them a few months, not to mention the barrage of solicitors letters, complaints to the police about his behaviour...which although below the bar for prosecution was sufficent for them to put in place some sort of safeguard and pay him a few visits.......etc etc etc.....
the difference is...what I did was justifiable AND legal.....what he was doing wasnt
I think that what you did was wrong actually. It was up to your daughter to sort it out, it wasn't up to you to try to destroy his life and his future. You stalked him basically. However, you weren't violent. Don't tell me I'm "incapable" when you're clearly off your head.
why?
its MY business too, since firstly its called family....piss with any of mine and you piss with ME....simples
secondly its my business becasue I had to deal with the meltdowns his behaviour caused
No, I didnt "stalk" him..gathering evidence (in the form of his texts etc) is NOT stalking nor is passing this indisputable evidence on to persons who may have an interest in his probity.
AND...he brought this on himself.....it is a CONSEQUENCE of his behaviour....
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I think that what you did was wrong actually. It was up to your daughter to sort it out, it wasn't up to you to try to destroy his life and his future. You stalked him basically. However, you weren't violent. Don't tell me I'm "incapable" when you're clearly off your head.
why?
its MY business too, since firstly its called family....piss with any of mine and you piss with ME....simples
secondly its my business becasue I had to deal with the meltdowns his behaviour caused
No, I didnt "stalk" him..gathering evidence (in the form of his texts etc) is NOT stalking nor is passing this indisputable evidence on to persons who may have an interest in his probity.
AND...he brought this on himself.....it is a CONSEQUENCE of his behaviour....
You interfered with his employment which you had no business doing. You did that to him - he's not responsible for what you did.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
So, I reaslly do not need to point this out, but my points were not even over the top they were rational and why I respct Gelico to challenge me. She never once challenged Rags on her view points.
There was more views extreme in Rags views than mine
I respect rags views and will as seen respond, but I dispair when people are bias as Gelico was.
She never argued the point made and simple agreed with rags
That is boring and would rather she spoke her mind
I hope she proves me wrong, but she is being as guilty or what she claims this victims is of
Night everyone
There was more views extreme in Rags views than mine
I respect rags views and will as seen respond, but I dispair when people are bias as Gelico was.
She never argued the point made and simple agreed with rags
That is boring and would rather she spoke her mind
I hope she proves me wrong, but she is being as guilty or what she claims this victims is of
Night everyone
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I think that what you did was wrong actually. It was up to your daughter to sort it out, it wasn't up to you to try to destroy his life and his future. You stalked him basically. However, you weren't violent. Don't tell me I'm "incapable" when you're clearly off your head.
why?
its MY business too, since firstly its called family....piss with any of mine and you piss with ME....simples
secondly its my business becasue I had to deal with the meltdowns his behaviour caused
No, I didnt "stalk" him..gathering evidence (in the form of his texts etc) is NOT stalking nor is passing this indisputable evidence on to persons who may have an interest in his probity.
AND...he brought this on himself.....it is a CONSEQUENCE of his behaviour....
Good luck mate
She will never ever learn
I did from you, but she could prove me wrong
Time will tell
All the best buddy
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
I'm loving the way Didge is trying to manipulate people in this thread.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I think that what you did was wrong actually. It was up to your daughter to sort it out, it wasn't up to you to try to destroy his life and his future. You stalked him basically. However, you weren't violent. Don't tell me I'm "incapable" when you're clearly off your head.
why?
its MY business too, since firstly its called family....piss with any of mine and you piss with ME....simples
secondly its my business becasue I had to deal with the meltdowns his behaviour caused
No, I didnt "stalk" him..gathering evidence (in the form of his texts etc) is NOT stalking nor is passing this indisputable evidence on to persons who may have an interest in his probity.
AND...he brought this on himself.....it is a CONSEQUENCE of his behaviour....
You interfered with his employment which you had no business doing. You did that to him - he's not responsible for what you did.
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:I'm loving the way Didge is trying to manipulate people in this thread.
How?
Does my failure actually show you are wrong?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You interfered with his employment which you had no business doing. You did that to him - he's not responsible for what you did.
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
100 agree
Some will never understand that
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You interfered with his employment which you had no business doing. You did that to him - he's not responsible for what you did.
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
I don't know the details obviously, but I'll say the same as I've said about the woman in the article. Your daughter should have walked away. You should have supported her but you should not have destroyed this man's life out of malice. I'm surprised his employers didn't report you to the police for harassment actually.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I'm loving the way Didge is trying to manipulate people in this thread.
How?
Does my failure actually show you are wrong?
You're such a control freak Didge. You need someone to agree with you, and if they don't, you hound them. Don't you see that you're behaving in a way that you disapprove of in others?
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
How?
Does my failure actually show you are wrong?
You're such a control freak Didge. You need someone to agree with you, and if they don't, you hound them. Don't you see that you're behaving in a way that you disapprove of in others?
How am I a control freak when some already agree with me?
Lord fould does
All you are doing is dodging the points and turning this onto me
You can do as you please, but i will be critical of this, so please spare me any bullshit on this Rags
You are like a child
I am passionate and stupid, but you are irresponsible
I do not care what people think of me
You do
Hence I know how insecure you are
How gelico never spoke out on some fucked up views you made shows her fcuked up bias here
Who cares
I am simple pointing this out
I will however point out you are backward and you are
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You're such a control freak Didge. You need someone to agree with you, and if they don't, you hound them. Don't you see that you're behaving in a way that you disapprove of in others?
How am I a control freak when some already agree with me?
Lord fould does
All you are doing is dodging the points and turning this onto me
You can do as you please, but i will be critical of this, so please spare me any bullshit on this Rags
You are like a child
I am passionate and stupid, but you are irresponsible
I do not care what people think of me
You do
Hence I know how insecure you are
How gelico never spoke out on some fucked up views you made shows her fcuked up bias here
Who cares
I am simple pointing this out
I will however point out you are backward and you are
You keep demanding that Gelico condemns my posts - in other words, you're trying to control her.
I hear you're having a hard time at the moment. However, that's no excuse for your abusive behaviour.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
How am I a control freak when some already agree with me?
Lord fould does
All you are doing is dodging the points and turning this onto me
You can do as you please, but i will be critical of this, so please spare me any bullshit on this Rags
You are like a child
I am passionate and stupid, but you are irresponsible
I do not care what people think of me
You do
Hence I know how insecure you are
How gelico never spoke out on some fucked up views you made shows her fcuked up bias here
Who cares
I am simple pointing this out
I will however point out you are backward and you are
You keep demanding that Gelico condemns my posts - in other words, you're trying to control her.
I hear you're having a hard time at the moment. However, that's no excuse for your abusive behaviour.
Show me where I demanded that she did?
I never did
I simple questioned why she never did
You hear I am having a hard time at the moment?
Did you get that from gelico?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You keep demanding that Gelico condemns my posts - in other words, you're trying to control her.
I hear you're having a hard time at the moment. However, that's no excuse for your abusive behaviour.
Show me where I demanded that she did?
I never did
I simple questioned why she never did
You hear I am having a hard time at the moment?
Did you get that from gelico?
Somebody on here said it.
Stop having a tantrum and stop trying to force people to do what you say - it rarely works.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
she DID walk away...but since there was a child involved there still had to be some contact and it was through that that he continued....so I struck back ....it worked...hes gone very quiet and behaves very nicely now he knows how it feels to be on the other side of things.....
why do you have any sort of sympathy for this piece of human rubbish , who thought bullying and coercion is a correct thing to do??? he isnt a "man" , No man with decency and principles would do that sort of thing to a woman without very good reason. he is a weak, spineless specimin who throws a hissy fit when he doesnt get his own way ALL the time or if folks dont jump when he says....
oh and as for his employers reporting me...why would they ....they and I belong to the same band of brothers as it were....they were grateful for the information....sometimes its not just WHAT you know..........
why do you have any sort of sympathy for this piece of human rubbish , who thought bullying and coercion is a correct thing to do??? he isnt a "man" , No man with decency and principles would do that sort of thing to a woman without very good reason. he is a weak, spineless specimin who throws a hissy fit when he doesnt get his own way ALL the time or if folks dont jump when he says....
oh and as for his employers reporting me...why would they ....they and I belong to the same band of brothers as it were....they were grateful for the information....sometimes its not just WHAT you know..........
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:she DID walk away...but since there was a child involved there still had to be some contact and it was through that that he continued....so I struck back ....it worked...hes gone very quiet and behaves very nicely now he knows how it feels to be on the other side of things.....
why do you have any sort of sympathy for this piece of human rubbish , who thought bullying and coercion is a correct thing to do??? he isnt a "man" , No man with decency and principles would do that sort of thing to a woman without very good reason. he is a weak, spineless specimin who throws a hissy fit when he doesnt get his own way ALL the time or if folks dont jump when he says....
oh and as for his employers reporting me...why would they ....they and I belong to the same band of brothers as it were....they were grateful for the information....sometimes its not just WHAT you know..........
You pretty much admitted that you told his employers out of malice. There's no honour in that. Perhaps he had a lucky escape from them.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Show me where I demanded that she did?
I never did
I simple questioned why she never did
You hear I am having a hard time at the moment?
Did you get that from gelico?
Somebody on here said it.
Stop having a tantrum and stop trying to force people to do what you say - it rarely works.
Sorry?
How can I force anyone?
You said nobody can ever be manipuated?
So how am I forcing anyone?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You interfered with his employment which you had no business doing. You did that to him - he's not responsible for what you did.
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
this wasn't so much protecting your daughter as exacting revenge, three times over
not that i blame you in the least but don't try to dress it up as protection
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Somebody on here said it.
Stop having a tantrum and stop trying to force people to do what you say - it rarely works.
Sorry?
How can I force anyone?
You said nobody can ever be manipuated?
So how am I forcing anyone?
I said you were trying to force someone to do as you say. That's not the same as them actually doing as you say.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Lord Foul wrote:
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
this wasn't so much protecting your daughter as exacting revenge, three times over
not that i blame you in the least but don't try to dress it up as protection
I agree with that, although I do blame him for going too far and involving other people.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Sorry?
How can I force anyone?
You said nobody can ever be manipuated?
So how am I forcing anyone?
I said you were trying to force someone to do as you say. That's not the same as them actually doing as you say.
Well what relevance does that have on your thinking Rags?
How can I force anyone, as you think the victims are at fault?
How to show up an idiot in two simple lessons
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Lord Foul wrote:
I had every right to cause him suffering in proportion to the suffering he was inflicting on my daughter, see raggs, that the strange thing here he didnt quite cross the line into criminality with his behaviour, despite the distress it caused, and incidently neither did I, but payback is a bitch ......what I did was as a consequence of his behaviour, just the same as if I struck back at the man that just punched me......(or indeed had punched my daughter)
what YOU dont see is, I'd do time if that was the result of protecting a family member.......
this wasn't so much protecting your daughter as exacting revenge, three times over
not that i blame you in the least but don't try to dress it up as protection
How is it not protection?
How on earth do you not protect your daughter by actully forming defesive actions?
You have no idea of conflict do you?
Sop I suggest you shut your gobby mouth for one and understand
Sometimes, the best form of defense, is offense
To protect someone, you have to use offensive actions
So again you are critical of the man in lord foul and not again Rags
Wow
You are full of shit Gelico
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I said you were trying to force someone to do as you say. That's not the same as them actually doing as you say.
Well what relevance does that have on your thinking Rags?
How can I force anyone, as you think the victims are at fault?
How to show up an idiot in two simple lessons
Exactly - you can't force anyone, so you might as well give it up and stop having a tantrum about it.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Well what relevance does that have on your thinking Rags?
How can I force anyone, as you think the victims are at fault?
How to show up an idiot in two simple lessons
Exactly - you can't force anyone, so you might as well give it up and stop having a tantrum about it.
Give up what?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:gelico wrote:
this wasn't so much protecting your daughter as exacting revenge, three times over
not that i blame you in the least but don't try to dress it up as protection
How is it not protection?
How on earth do you not protect your daughter by actully forming defesive actions?
You have no idea of conflict do you?
Sop I suggest you shut your gobby mouth for one and understand
Sometimes, the best form of defense, is offense
To protect someone, you have to use offensive actions
So again you are critical of the man in lord foul and not again Rags
Wow
You are full of shit Gelico
Getting the man sacked from several jobs is not protecting his daughter. In fact, it would deprive him of wages so he couldn't pay child maintenance.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Lord Foul wrote:she DID walk away...but since there was a child involved there still had to be some contact and it was through that that he continued....so I struck back ....it worked...hes gone very quiet and behaves very nicely now he knows how it feels to be on the other side of things.....
why do you have any sort of sympathy for this piece of human rubbish , who thought bullying and coercion is a correct thing to do??? he isnt a "man" , No man with decency and principles would do that sort of thing to a woman without very good reason. he is a weak, spineless specimin who throws a hissy fit when he doesnt get his own way ALL the time or if folks dont jump when he says....
oh and as for his employers reporting me...why would they ....they and I belong to the same band of brothers as it were....they were grateful for the information....sometimes its not just WHAT you know..........
You pretty much admitted that you told his employers out of malice. There's no honour in that. Perhaps he had a lucky escape from them.
maybe you also are incapable of distinguishing between malice and using a means to an end......my intent was to stop his behaviour, my means was to cause him problems and distress in proportion to the problems and distress HE was causing, using the same tactics as him.
see now he is behaving, he can go find another avenue of employment and I wont interfere...so his life is hardly ruined.....it just means he will have to pull himself up from the bottom of an admittedly deep pit, in the same way my daughter had to........
IF i was to want to be malicious...I would have destroyed him entirely.............
by (and heres the important bit) using psychological means.............
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
You pretty much admitted that you told his employers out of malice. There's no honour in that. Perhaps he had a lucky escape from them.
maybe you also are incapable of distinguishing between malice and using a means to an end......my intent was to stop his behaviour, my means was to cause him problems and distress in proportion to the problems and distress HE was causing, using the same tactics as him.
see now he is behaving, he can go find another avenue of employment and I wont interfere...so his life is hardly ruined.....it just means he will have to pull himself up from the bottom of an admittedly deep pit, in the same way my daughter had to........
IF i was to want to be malicious...I would have destroyed him entirely.............
by (and heres the important bit) using psychological means.............
You're still trying to dress it up as "protection" and it just doesn't wash. You got him sacked out of malice, not for the purposes of protecting anyone.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
How is it not protection?
How on earth do you not protect your daughter by actully forming defesive actions?
You have no idea of conflict do you?
Sop I suggest you shut your gobby mouth for one and understand
Sometimes, the best form of defense, is offense
To protect someone, you have to use offensive actions
So again you are critical of the man in lord foul and not again Rags
Wow
You are full of shit Gelico
Getting the man sacked from several jobs is not protecting his daughter. In fact, it would deprive him of wages so he couldn't pay child maintenance.
Of course its protecting his daughter
What do you think the "me two" movement is based on?
So you view is that a child rapist beinmg exposed, could be deprived from paying child maintenance?
Have you not heard of social care?
You would rather a peado, is allowed out of jail based on that issue?
Dont worry, I am surre Gelico, will draw a blank on this dumbfuckwittery
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
erm geli...it required 3 times....
because...........................................
he didnt stop after the first time
or the second.......
it took 3
a tad slow on the uptake methinks he is
cant take a hint
the message was...stop doing this or.............
because...........................................
he didnt stop after the first time
or the second.......
it took 3
a tad slow on the uptake methinks he is
cant take a hint
the message was...stop doing this or.............
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Getting the man sacked from several jobs is not protecting his daughter. In fact, it would deprive him of wages so he couldn't pay child maintenance.
Of course its protecting his daughter
What do you think the "me two" movement is based on?
So you view is that a child rapist beinmg exposed, could be deprived from paying child maintenance?
Have you not heard of social care?
You would rather a peado, is allowed out of jail based on that issue?
Dont worry, I am surre Gelico, will draw a blank on this dumbfuckwittery
Are you accusing this man of raping his child?
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:seems to me you condone violent criminals that take their violence out on women......
you must have led a very sheltered life....
I have seen this at work first hand, with the bastard that tried his coercive behaviour on my daughter, fortunately I caught him out and dealt with it, covertly from behind the scenes, and turned the tables on him...cost him 3 jobs in a row (and his jobs are "high flying" financial roles)
and left him almost unemployable, becuase those who need to know, now know what he is, and understand very clearly that employing him could be "damaging" to their company reputation....
now HE knows what its like to be "coerced"....and that actions have consequences......
so are you saying that after he lost his first job due to you, he still carried on with the abuse of your daughter? did she come to you and ask you to intervene? was she a minor? did it carry on until he lost his 3rd job? did he know it was you sabotaging his jobs?
i'm curious now and like i said before, it's not like i blame you as such but as stated my daughter was 18 and an adult already and as much as i hated the bastard she was with and saw the effect he was having on her, there was no way i could interfere. she wasnt ready to walk away and when she was i was there for her straight away but until then there was nothing i could do.
my son also got into a very toxic relationship and didnt even realise he was being totally controlled. took him ages to get shot of that psycho but he managed it eventually
but unless that person is ready there is nothing anyone else can really do
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:Thor wrote:
Of course its protecting his daughter
What do you think the "me two" movement is based on?
So you view is that a child rapist beinmg exposed, could be deprived from paying child maintenance?
Have you not heard of social care?
You would rather a peado, is allowed out of jail based on that issue?
Dont worry, I am surre Gelico, will draw a blank on this dumbfuckwittery
Are you accusing this man of raping his child?
The law would have done so
Sadly you adn gelico wnat to ignore and excuse your ignorance here
Now, he shoul;d have the protection of the law, but gelico never challegend on your views
She challeneged me
Gelico is unsubconsciously a feminist without knowing and I appluad that.
She never takes any female to task, just men
Which is cool, but she fails to know that she evern does
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
It's a bit worrying that someone could be sacked on what someone else tells them. Regardless of the circumstances, those employers were pathetic and not worth working for.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Thor wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Are you accusing this man of raping his child?
The law would have done so
Sadly you adn gelico wnat to ignore and excuse your ignorance here
Now, he shoul;d have the protection of the law, but gelico never challegend on your views
She challeneged me
Gelico is unsubconsciously a feminist without knowing and I appluad that.
She never takes any female to task, just men
Which is cool, but she fails to know that she evern does
You're actually accusing the man Foul is talking about of raping his own child? Do you have evidence of that?
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
sometimes, and I'm sure didge will agree, one has to really get down and dirty
if you were to ask me if I was proud of it, then I would have to say, honestly no, it WAS dirty, but neither am I ashamed of it either....it was merely....necessary.
and ....it worked. peace and harmony is reestablished in my world..........
as I have said before...I dont subscribe to the "must be better than" mentality....when push comes to shove I'll fight (literally or figuratively) just as dirty and low, if not dirtier than my opponent..BUT I only fight when provoked into it, and that provocation needs to be severe, since by nature I'm lazy and generally cant be arsed with too much conflict......
if you were to ask me if I was proud of it, then I would have to say, honestly no, it WAS dirty, but neither am I ashamed of it either....it was merely....necessary.
and ....it worked. peace and harmony is reestablished in my world..........
as I have said before...I dont subscribe to the "must be better than" mentality....when push comes to shove I'll fight (literally or figuratively) just as dirty and low, if not dirtier than my opponent..BUT I only fight when provoked into it, and that provocation needs to be severe, since by nature I'm lazy and generally cant be arsed with too much conflict......
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:erm geli...it required 3 times....
because...........................................
he didnt stop after the first time
or the second.......
it took 3
a tad slow on the uptake methinks he is
cant take a hint
the message was...stop doing this or.............
ah, i see, slightly different kettle of fish, i read it that you got your revenge and then just kept going after him for the hell of it.
i get it and all and although i couldn't have taken action in my kids situations i get why you did.
but also, and don't deny it, it was also for you personal satisfaction or at least you got a great deal of satisfaction out of it. anyhoos it seemed to have solved your problem
but my point is that did your daughter come to you? see if she felt she loved him and wasnt ready to walk away from the relationship, no matter how toxic, then your actions could simply have alienated her. if she's still being controlled she would have been on his side
you see what i'm saying?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:It's a bit worrying that someone could be sacked on what someone else tells them. Regardless of the circumstances, those employers were pathetic and not worth working for.
Ah, but it wasnt just "heresay" I had the evidence of his texted messages......
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Lord Foul wrote:seems to me you condone violent criminals that take their violence out on women......
you must have led a very sheltered life....
I have seen this at work first hand, with the bastard that tried his coercive behaviour on my daughter, fortunately I caught him out and dealt with it, covertly from behind the scenes, and turned the tables on him...cost him 3 jobs in a row (and his jobs are "high flying" financial roles)
and left him almost unemployable, becuase those who need to know, now know what he is, and understand very clearly that employing him could be "damaging" to their company reputation....
now HE knows what its like to be "coerced"....and that actions have consequences......
so are you saying that after he lost his first job due to you, he still carried on with the abuse of your daughter? did she come to you and ask you to intervene? was she a minor? did it carry on until he lost his 3rd job? did he know it was you sabotaging his jobs?
i'm curious now and like i said before, it's not like i blame you as such but as stated my daughter was 18 and an adult already and as much as i hated the bastard she was with and saw the effect he was having on her, there was no way i could interfere. she wasnt ready to walk away and when she was i was there for her straight away but until then there was nothing i could do.
my son also got into a very toxic relationship and didnt even realise he was being totally controlled. took him ages to get shot of that psycho but he managed it eventually
but unless that person is ready there is nothing anyone else can really do
Only you would go to extremes on thison questions, knowing he actually faced this reaity
You questiuon him and not the guilty person here?
Again WTF
This is a man protecting his daughter which will be different to any given situjation you can imagine
Can you understand that Gelico?
You are placing Lord Foul on the defnsive, as if he has done wrong
As look at the questions you are asking?
I trust him far more than you
The fact you need to ask him shows you do not trust him
I am appalled at you
One thing I know about him, he does not lie
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Lord Foul wrote:sometimes, and I'm sure didge will agree, one has to really get down and dirty
if you were to ask me if I was proud of it, then I would have to say, honestly no, it WAS dirty, but neither am I ashamed of it either....it was merely....necessary.
and ....it worked. peace and harmony is reestablished in my world..........
as I have said before...I dont subscribe to the "must be better than" mentality....when push comes to shove I'll fight (literally or figuratively) just as dirty and low, if not dirtier than my opponent..BUT I only fight when provoked into it, and that provocation needs to be severe, since by nature I'm lazy and generally cant be arsed with too much conflict......
I will ask again mate
When at any point has gelico taken to tasdk Rags, on any point she made?
She has only done this to me and you
Men
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
Raggamuffin wrote:It's a bit worrying that someone could be sacked on what someone else tells them. Regardless of the circumstances, those employers were pathetic and not worth working for.
he was able to provide taped evidence of much arseholery and bastardry that would at least have shown them the character of the person they are employing
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It's a bit worrying that someone could be sacked on what someone else tells them. Regardless of the circumstances, those employers were pathetic and not worth working for.
he was able to provide taped evidence of much arseholery and bastardry that would at least have shown them the character of the person they are employing
You have lost all respect
When are you going to take her to task on many poor points she made
You did with me and Lord foul but shy away as usual from women posters?
Why?
Guest- Guest
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Lord Foul wrote:erm geli...it required 3 times....
because...........................................
he didnt stop after the first time
or the second.......
it took 3
a tad slow on the uptake methinks he is
cant take a hint
the message was...stop doing this or.............
ah, i see, slightly different kettle of fish, i read it that you got your revenge and then just kept going after him for the hell of it.
i get it and all and although i couldn't have taken action in my kids situations i get why you did.
but also, and don't deny it, it was also for you personal satisfaction or at least you got a great deal of satisfaction out of it. anyhoos it seemed to have solved your problem
but my point is that did your daughter come to you? see if she felt she loved him and wasnt ready to walk away from the relationship, no matter how toxic, then your actions could simply have alienated her. if she's still being controlled she would have been on his side
you see what i'm saying?
she had already dumped him.....the abuse from him just got worse as time went on.......via texts etc....and she HAD to keep an open line because of the child involved.....it was very very complex and a very long standing issue....
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge acquits man of controlling behaviour because his partner was too strong and capable to be affected.
gelico wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It's a bit worrying that someone could be sacked on what someone else tells them. Regardless of the circumstances, those employers were pathetic and not worth working for.
he was able to provide taped evidence of much arseholery and bastardry that would at least have shown them the character of the person they are employing
And the employers didn't give the bloke a chance to defend himself? Foul said he did it covertly, so presumably the chap didn't know that he'd done that. Any employer that doesn't give an employee the chance to defend themselves is a bad employer. Also, Foul implied that he knew people in one company at least, so there was a bit of backslapping going on there.
I simply do not approve of what Foul did re the employers - it was nothing to do with his employment, and he clearly did it out of malice and for no other reason.
Raggamuffin- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 33746
Join date : 2014-02-10
Page 3 of 9 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Similar topics
» Controlling girlfriend, 22, who starved and stabbed her partner, banned him from her bed and took over his Facebook account is jailed for more than seven years
» Nagging wife who told her bodybuilder husband to tidy the house more and go to the gym less is ARRESTED and locked in cells for 17 hours and charged with 'controlling behaviour'
» Fury as High Court judge says it's a 'fundamental human right' for a man to have sex with his wife as he hears case of whether woman with learning difficulties is capable of giving consent
» What does Russia want controlling Trump?
» Dogs really are capable of loving their owners, research suggests
» Nagging wife who told her bodybuilder husband to tidy the house more and go to the gym less is ARRESTED and locked in cells for 17 hours and charged with 'controlling behaviour'
» Fury as High Court judge says it's a 'fundamental human right' for a man to have sex with his wife as he hears case of whether woman with learning difficulties is capable of giving consent
» What does Russia want controlling Trump?
» Dogs really are capable of loving their owners, research suggests
Page 3 of 9
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:28 pm by Ben Reilly
» TOTAL MADNESS Great British Railway Journeys among shows flagged by counter terror scheme ‘for encouraging far-right sympathies
Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:14 pm by Tommy Monk
» Interesting COVID figures
Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:00 am by Tommy Monk
» HAPPY CHRISTMAS.
Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:33 pm by Tommy Monk
» The Fight Over Climate Change is Over (The Greenies Won!)
Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:59 pm by Tommy Monk
» Trump supporter murders wife, kills family dog, shoots daughter
Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:21 am by 'Wolfie
» Quill
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:28 pm by Tommy Monk
» Algerian Woman under investigation for torture and murder of French girl, 12, whose body was found in plastic case in Paris
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:04 pm by Tommy Monk
» Wind turbines cool down the Earth (edited with better video link)
Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:19 am by Ben Reilly
» Saying goodbye to our Queen.
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:02 pm by Maddog
» PHEW.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:33 pm by Syl
» And here's some more enrichment...
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:46 pm by Ben Reilly
» John F Kennedy Assassination
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:40 pm by Ben Reilly
» Where is everyone lately...?
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:33 pm by Ben Reilly
» London violence over the weekend...
Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:19 pm by Tommy Monk
» Why should anyone believe anything that Mo Farah says...!?
Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:44 am by Tommy Monk
» Liverpool Labour defends mayor role poll after turnout was only 3% and they say they will push ahead with the option that was least preferred!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:11 pm by Tommy Monk
» Labour leader Keir Stammer can't answer the simple question of whether a woman has a penis or not...
Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am by Tommy Monk
» More evidence of remoaners still trying to overturn Brexit... and this is a conservative MP who should be drummed out of the party and out of parliament!
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:50 pm by Tommy Monk
» R Kelly 30 years, Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years... but here in UK...
Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:31 pm by Original Quill