What does Russia want controlling Trump?

ABC News wrote:Donald Trump Suggests He's Open to Lifting Russian Sanctions
DAVID CAPLAN,Good Morning America 2017-01-14

President-elect Donald Trump has suggested that he is open to lifting the recently-imposed sanctions on Russia if Vladimir Putin assists the U.S. in its anti-terror initiatives and in other matters.

But the sanctions, imposed by President Obama in late December in response to Russia's alleged attempts to influence the presidential election via cyberattacks, will remain for "at least for a period of time," Trump told The Wall Street Journal in an interview published Friday night.

"If you get along and if Russia is really helping us, why would anybody have sanctions if somebody’s doing some really great things?" he asked.

Trump also said that once he's sworn in as the 45th president, he will happily meet with Putin. "I understand that they would like to meet, and that’s absolutely fine with me," he said.

Also noteworthy was Trump's suggestion that the American "One China" policy -- which views Taiwan as part of China, not as a separate country -- could be modified.

"Everything is under negotiation including 'One China,'" Trump told The Wall Street Journal.

Such a move would anger China, considering it views Taiwan as a renegade province. China, for example, lodged a formal complaint with the U.S. after Trump accepted a congratulatory phone call last month from Taiwanese president Tsai Ing-wen.

Trump has repeatedly said in the past that he would label China a currency manipulator, but he told The Wall Street Journal he's not looking to do that on his first day in the Oval Office. "I would talk to them first," he said. "Certainly they are manipulators. But I'm not looking to do that."

But he didn't back down from his previous criticism of the Chinese. "Instead of saying, 'We're devaluating our currency,' they say, 'Oh, our currency is dropping.' It's not dropping," he said. "They're doing it on purpose ... Our companies can't compete with them now because our currency is strong and it’s killing us."

Trump did have kind words to say about Chinese leader Xi Jinping, though, who sent the incoming commander in chief a holiday greeting card. "I have a beautiful card from the chairman," he said.

Raggamuffin wrote:I would have thought that Trump's lack of interest in military intervention in Syria played a part as well. The Russians don't want the Americans interfering there.

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Raggamuffin wrote:I would have thought that Trump's lack of interest in military intervention in Syria played a part as well. The Russians don't want the Americans interfering there.

Where did you hear that Trump wasn't interested in going to war with ISIS?  To the contrary, I think the Russian minority-president elect is using all of his Muslim-hate rhetoric to mold a merger with the Russians.  He said so many times on the campaign, words to the effect: 'I think we should join with the Russians to oppose Muslim terrorism.'

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Where did you hear that Trump wasn't interested in going to war with ISIS?  To the contrary, I think the Russian minority-president elect is using all of his Muslim-hate rhetoric to mold a merger with the Russians.  He said so many times on the campaign, words to the effect: 'I think we should join with the Russians to oppose Muslim terrorism.'

He's not interested in attacking the Syrian Government, which will please the Russians.

Original Quill wrote:Step back.  The main Putin effort is to recreate the old Soviet bloc buffer.  The target is not the US, but Europe.  Since the break-up Russia has lost, and NATO as gained all the old buffer states of Poland and eastern Europe.

Putin's taken Crimea back by bully force, and he's using the Muslim issue to try and take Syria.  He doesn't give a damn about Assad, he wants the buffer...and perhaps an oil line to the sea.  Only Turkey and Iran stand in his way for that.  Watch Trump's stand in up-coming months on those two countries.  

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Original Quill wrote:Step back.  The main Putin effort is to recreate the old Soviet bloc buffer.  The target is not the US, but Europe.  Since the break-up Russia has lost, and NATO as gained all the old buffer states of Poland and eastern Europe.

Putin's taken Crimea back by bully force, and he's using the Muslim issue to try and take Syria.  He doesn't give a damn about Assad, he wants the buffer...and perhaps an oil line to the sea.  Only Turkey and Iran stand in his way for that.  Watch Trump's stand in up-coming months on those two countries.  

Whether that's true or not, it doesn't change what I said. Putin doesn't want the US messing with the Syrian Government. It doesn't matter why.

The dufus runs for president, saying WTF, who would ever vote me in anyway? Little does the dufus know that the Russians have wired the election machines in three states--Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania--to make the dufus, not the popular selection, but the electoral college selection (they have engineered this really well), thus winning the presidency.

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The dufus runs for president, saying WTF, who would ever vote me in anyway?  Little does the dufus know that the Russians have wired the election machines in three states--Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania--to make the dufus, not the popular selection, but the electoral college selection (they have engineered this really well), thus winning the presidency.

I'd like to know how the Russians did this.

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I'd like to know how the Russians did this.

So would a lot of people.  Right now, we have the FBI with an open investigation into it.  We have the Senate Intelligence Committee opening an investigation.  And we have the Department of Justice Inspector General looking into the actions of Director James Comey.  The House is opening an investigation into it.  The proposal is that Congress open a joint, bi-partisan investigation into it.

We know at the same time the Russians hack-attacked a Vermont power grid.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.be4b1030d0fe  There was no partisan bickering over the fact that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor; is this any different?  If a foreign power can shut down a power grid, snoop in on your child's baby-cam, disrupt a military communications system, create a major traffic pile-up by hacking into the computer boxes in automobiles on the New York expressway, or hack the voting machines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania...is that any less of an attack?

Be afraid, people...be very afraid.

Raggamuffin wrote:

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So would a lot of people.  Right now, we have the FBI with an open investigation into it.  We have the Senate Intelligence Committee opening an investigation.  And we have the Department of Justice Inspector General looking into the actions of Director James Comey.  The House is opening an investigation into it.  The proposal is that Congress open a joint, bi-partisan investigation into it.

We know at the same time the Russians hack-attacked a Vermont power grid.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.be4b1030d0fe  There was no partisan bickering over the fact that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor; is this any different?  If a foreign power can shut down a power grid, snoop in on your child's baby-cam, disrupt a military communications system, create a major traffic pile-up by hacking into the computer boxes in automobiles on the New York expressway, or hack the voting machines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania...is that any less of an attack?

Be afraid, people...be very afraid.

Are you suggesting that the electoral college votes were false? Wouldn't the electoral college have said so?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I'd like to know how the Russians did this.

So would a lot of people.  Right now, we have the FBI with an open investigation into it.  We have the Senate Intelligence Committee opening an investigation.  And we have the Department of Justice Inspector General looking into the actions of Director James Comey.  The House is opening an investigation into it.  The proposal is that Congress open a joint, bi-partisan investigation into it.

We know at the same time the Russians hack-attacked a Vermont power grid.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.be4b1030d0fe  There was no partisan bickering over the fact that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor; is this any different?  If a foreign power can shut down a power grid, snoop in on your child's baby-cam, disrupt a military communications system, create a major traffic pile-up by hacking into the computer boxes in automobiles on the New York expressway, or hack the voting machines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania...is that any less of an attack?

Be afraid, people...be very afraid.

Are you suggesting that the electoral college votes were false? Wouldn't the electoral college have said so?