Meanwhile,,,,,Over at Speakers Corner

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/18/thousands-gather-londons-speakers-corner-hear-tommy-robinson-deliver-banned-right-wing-activists-speech/






THE FULL SPEECH BY SELLNER FOLLOWS:

Dear Friends, dear Britons, dear lovers of free speech.

I assume you all are lovers of free speech because you have come to Speakers’ Corner.

You might not understand all the fuss happening today around this speech. Honestly, I don’t understand it either.

My name is Martin Sellner. I am an Austrian patriot, and at the moment, I’m sitting in a detention cell in Colnbrook Bypass near Heathrow. My smartphone was taken and my girlfriend Brittany was separated from me. I currently don’t know where she is. We will be deported on Sunday.

Five minutes ago, they unlocked our cells and my fellow inmates are gathering in the prison wing. They are mostly illegals and eastern European criminals.

What brought me into this situation? What was my crime?

My crime was that I wanted to be here with you, to speak at Speakers’ Corner.

But let’s start with the beginning. I was invited by UKIP to present my movement at an event last Autumn. I represent Generation Identity — a patriotic European youth movement that is raising awareness about mass immigration and Islamisation.

Far-left people call us right-wing, people who want to shut free speech down call us ‘fascist’, and folks who hate their own culture call us ‘racist’.

In reality, we are just a group of young patriots fed up with the system, the mainstream press and lying politicians. We use peaceful activism to make our voices heard, and contrary to our friends on the radical left, who are probably swarming
you right now, we never wear masks.

From Paris to Rome, from Vienna to London, we fight peacefully but without compromise for our freedom, our homelands, and our identity!

This is what I wanted to speak about in Autumn. But the conference was cancelled due to threats from the radical left. The venue would not take the risk. So they rescheduled it for March, this time keeping the venue secret — but again the terror of the left prevailed, and the venue dropped out.

But this time I did not want to let them win! It was about principles! (Also, our flights
were already booked.)

My last refuge was Speakers’ Corner. I remembered my mother telling me about that special place when I was a child. It
seemed almost magical to me. A place where everyone, without exception, could just stand on a box and start to speak to those who wanted to listen. I have always loved this tradition of Speakers’ Corner, which seemed very British to me.

But I came only to see that this tradition — the tradition of freedom of speech in the United Kingdom — is dead.

Your Country is blocking you from challenging ideas from the outside. This is a disgrace to our democracy!

I should be speaking in neat, warm a conference room right now, and you should be sitting in comfortable chairs. Instead, I’m in my cell and you are on the street in a standoff with the enemies of freedom of speech.

And this is very telling! Today there is a war going on for our freedom of speech. This war is being fought on the streets,
by you!

Every man and woman showing her face today, standing shoulder to shoulder, is standing up against a new totalitarianism
that has been growing for far too long. You can be proud of yourself. You might not even agree with me on every point — you are simply giving a statement that I should have the right to speak my mind freely.

I would love to be among you now. They prevented me from it. They locked up the speaker, but I know that the speech will
find a way through the iron bars. It will find a way to you and you are going to hear what you government so desperately wants to protect you from.

Those words which they consider more harmful to you then rape gangs or terrorists who are let into your country again and
again.

I’m going to tell you something nobody has told you before. It’s the biggest, most obvious secret of our media our politicians and our powerholders: People of Britain, you are being replaced.

There has always been immigration in your history. People coming in, assimilating. But what’s happening today is different:
You are being replaced by massive Muslim immigration.

You see it everywhere: in London, in Manchester, but also already in the little countryside towns. A big replacement is going
on.

And let me tell you: your politicians have no plan, no vision and no idea how to deal with the problems that come along. Problems like you have seen in Telford, Rotherham, and on Westminster Bridge.

All across Europe, there is a shadow hanging over our heads. The French are whispering about in the Metro, the Germans murmuring about it when they feel unwatched, Italians look left and right, and if nobody is listening they tell you: “I don’t feel at home anymore in my street. We are becoming foreigners in our own country.”

And again and again I hear: “We are not allowed to talk about it.”

And that’s the bizarre drama of the ‘Strange death of Europe’. We are being replaced, conquered by radical Islam, and we are now allowed to talk about it!

Dear Britons, defenders of free speech. Out of my cell in Colnbrook, I want to ask you something. Be honest and raise your hands.

Who among of you has ever been in the following situation: You grab a beer after work, or you are visiting your girlfriend’s parents for the first time, or you meet other children’s parents at school — and suddenly the conversation moves to politics: radical Islam, immigration.

Who of you in this very moment was faced with the decision between speaking his mind and facing problems, or complying
and staying silent?

Raise your hands and be honest.

I will not be able to see the results, but every single hand is too much. This amount of fear should not exist in a society. Speech that has social costs and severe consequences is no longer free. It has a price — and our Government and the Antifa are working everyday to raise that price.

No freedom of speech means no democracy. In front of our very eyes this country is becoming a tyranny, shutting all debates
about immigration down, until demographics solves the issue by replacement.

People of the UK. I might be in a cell right now, but you all are in a cell. It’s the prison of fear and silence your governement and the PC tyranny has locked you in since the days of your childhood.

I ask you, I command you, break free!

Patriots of the UK: come out of the closet. Make your dissent visible by visible acts of resistance that inspire others. I know for certain that millions in the UK think like me. Those millions should be on the street now.

We need a coming out of the silent majority, or Britain is lost. We need a free, open and honest debate about immigration,
Islam and demographics, so we can sort these problems out together.

And I know that the force is still in you. With your Brexit vote you stunned the world! The will and the life of the British
nation is not broken.

Initially, I asked if freedom of speech is dead in the UK. You, every one of you who came today, is a living sign that the tradition of the UK is not dead! You are the livley tradition of your nation, saving its face before history.

People of the UK — remember who you are! Remember your glorious past, you are sons and daughters of knights, kings, explorers, philosophers and artists. Who is the sovereign in this country?

Is it big money?

The mainstream media?

The politicians?

It’s you — the people. You, the silent and invisible majority who said NO during Brexit. You can say NO again — no to Islamisation, no to mass immigration, and no to the great replacement.

And YES to your identity — yes to your security, yes to your heritage and the future for your children.

And all this is impossible without to freedom of speech.

I know, if these words will find their way to the UK and even to Speakers’ Corner, it will be victory for our cause.

If they did, and if you are hearing them now, I tell you: go further on that winning street. Don’t be afraid because we have an
ally that is unbeatable: Truth.

The battle, our battle for freedom of speech, has just begun, and Speakers’ Corner will become a symbolic place in that
struggle.

When you go home know I want you to bring the spirit of Speakers’ Corner with you. Every single person who raised his hand because he could relate to this moment of fear, when he did not dare to speak his mind.

Promise me: Next time I will overcome my inner fear. Next time I will speak up!

I guess speakers corner is a lot more pc than it used to be.

What a surprise  !!!

Seeing one of Newsfix's leading neo-nazi goons posting up this guff from her beloved Breitbart cesspit..

Even more laughable --  seeing that Euro' neo-nazi "patriot" racist scum Martin Sellner in the O/P, sitting in a prison cell awaiting deportation for over-staying his visa, falsely and boldly claiming that he's been jailed for his imaginary crime of "free speech".

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

What a surprise  !!!

Seeing one of Newsfix's leading neo-nazi goons posting up this guff from her beloved Breitbart cesspit..

Even more laughable --  seeing that Euro' neo-nazi "patriot" racist scum Martin Sellner in the O/P, sitting in a prison cell awaiting deportation for over-staying his visa, falsely and boldly claiming that he's been jailed for his imaginary crime of "free speech".

Even those with the vilest of views have the right to be heard

Martin Sellner is a nasty piece of work. The Austrian is a leader of the Generation Identity white nationalist movement and of Defend Europe, an organisation that tries to stop NGO boats from saving migrants drowning in the Med. His partner, the American Brittany Pettibone, is a writer and vlogger who sees immigration as “white genocide”. Lauren Southern is a Canadian journalist who moves in far-right circles. Hitler, according to Southern, “was just an SJW [social justice warrior] who happened to get freaky amounts of power”.

Over the past two weeks, all three have been barred from entering Britain. Their views, they were told, were unacceptable and their presence in Britain not “conducive to the public good”.

Sellner, Pettibone and Southern are all odious characters. I loathe their anti-immigrant rhetoric. I despair of their tirades against Muslims. But I also think that all three have the right to be as loathsome and obnoxious as they wish to be. Even scumbags should not be barred for thought crimes.

Anti-racists in particular should be wary of such bans. Censorious laws that some applaud when applied to the far right inevitably get turned on to the left and anti-racists. The 1965 Race Relations Act introduced Britain’s first legal ban on the incitement of racial hatred. Among the first people convicted under its provisions was the black power activist Michael X.

The 1936 Public Order Act, brought in to control Oswald Mosley’s fascists, became used after the war to target trade unionists – most notoriously during the miners’ strike of 1984-85 – and anti-fascist demonstrations in the 1970s and 1980s.

If we allow the state to define the limits of acceptable speech, it will not just be speech to which we object that gets curtailed.

• Kenan Malik is an Observer columnist

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/18/far-right-activists-barred-britain-state-speech

With free speech comes the responsibility to keep that speech decent, moral and within the law.
Would we allow Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussain , and other loopy tyrants the right to speak at speakers corner?
Of course not.

This smacks of extremist far right neo nazis such as Gelico rallying for the new 4th Reich.

Angry Andy wrote:With free speech comes the responsibility to keep that speech decent, moral and within the law.
Would we allow Hiler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussain , and other loopy tyrants the right to speak at speakers corner?
Of course not.

This smacks of extremist far right neo nazis such as Gelico rallying for the new 4th Reich.

Have to say I agree. What is the difference between allowing him to stir up hatred or inviting Hitler over to make a speech in the 30s. And the source? A rancid racist hate sheet I wouldn't use for toilet paper.

Ps Ben, why the fuck are you allowing a speech from someone who is being deported from UK for criminal stirring of hatred, to stand on this forum?

Same as the bollocks you spout, free speech or something !

PS, don't try to tell forum owners what they can or can not allow on their forums. Who the fuck do you think you are ?

Someone with better judgement than you obviously, who also knows how to read accurately.  I didn't tell him what to do, I asked him why he allowed it.  That's the trouble with RW fools, they have no accuracy in their reporting of other people's words.

Will you be joining Gelico's 4th Reich rally, Nicko?

The views endorsed by Gelico are the same as those of sick posters on another site for the bottom feeders of society. Perhaps he should have posted it there where it will get overwhelming support.

sassy wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:With free speech comes the responsibility to keep that speech decent, moral and within the law.
Would we allow Hiler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussain , and other loopy tyrants the right to speak at speakers corner?
Of course not.

This smacks of extremist far right neo nazis such as Gelico rallying for the new 4th Reich.

Have to say I agree.  What is the difference between allowing him to stir up hatred or inviting Hitler over to make a speech in the 30s.  And the source?  A rancid racist hate sheet I wouldn't use for toilet paper.

the editor in chief being one Raheem Jamaludin Kassam - racist? white supremacist? neo nazi?


well, ok

Peter Whittle

''Just to point out again: the Free Speech event at Speakers Corner received NO coverage on the legacy media.

Lord Pearson’s speech on grooming gangs got 154,000 views on Facebook.

BBC Newsnight’s average audience: just 200,00.

The potential with new media is massive.''

Kassam is a British born UKIP supporting atheist.

What point are you making, Herr Geli?

Angry Andy wrote:Kassam is a British born UKIP supporting atheist.

What point are you making, Herr Geli?

I'm well aware of that thank you

Just curious cos I thought that it was only white people that could be racist,,,,,have the rules changed?

also, if the mainstream media had reported this then it would not be left down to others ie ''racist rags''

gelico wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:Kassam is a British born UKIP supporting atheist.

What point are you making, Herr Geli?

I'm well aware of that thank you

Just curious cos I thought that it was only white people that could be racist,,,,,have the rules changed?

also, if the mainstream media had reported this then it would not be left down to others ie ''racist rags''

You really are one fuckwit racist, gelico...

Who ever said that one had to be "white" to be racist  ?

Certainly no-one on here;  must have been someone in your neighbourhood..

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Why are you such a whackjob racist,  GelliBelli  ???

Where you born that way,  or did you have a nasty experience growing up..

Some nasty "coloured" person called you names at school  ?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

gelico wrote:


I'm well aware of that thank you

Just curious cos I thought that it was only white people that could be racist,,,,,have the rules changed?

also, if the mainstream media had reported this then it would not be left down to others ie ''racist rags''

You really are one fuckwit racist,  gelico...

Who ever said that one had to be "white" to be racist  ?

Certainly no-one on here;  must have been someone in your neighbourhood..

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Why are you such a whackjob racist,  GelliBelli  ???

Where you born that way,  or did you have a nasty experience growing up..

Some nasty "coloured" person called you names at school  ?

so do you think that Raheem Kassam is in fact a racist? printing a racist news article?

ahh...I get it geli....

dare to speak out against unwanted unnesessary, unreasonable and unsustainable levels of immigration, by people, the greater proportion of which have NO desire to integrate, and many of whom want to introduce THEIR code of conduct over and beyond ours, who see fit to ignore OUR ways yet DEMAND their own. Who are allowed to flagrantly breach our laws and get away with it....and for whos benefit all debate, reasonable or otherwise, is instantly silenced by idiot L/W ers screaming islamophobia.

then you are a far right racist.....rather than merely a fellow human sick to death of the LW insipred spoon feeding of lies and coverups.....

So Geli...get back in your little grey box, live your little grey life, and do as your little grey master tells you.