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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:08 pm

Carlton Michael Gary was sentenced to death in 1986. He’s scheduled to die Thursday. In between came new evidence casting doubt on his conviction—and pointing to sabotage.

The courtroom drama was intense. On Aug. 15, 1986, Gertrude B. Miller, a 71-year-old white woman, testified about the night she was raped, beaten, and almost murdered by an intruder at her home in Columbus, Georgia, a prosperous city of 200,000 people south of Atlanta.

“I had gone sound asleep and it was then that I realized that someone was right there, on top of me… he turned me over on my back, and he pulled down my nightclothes… he raped me front and back, both, and he hit me on the head… Later on, when he was raping me, he turned the light on so he could see better, the light at the head of the bed.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dna-shows-hes-not-a-killer-georgia-wants-to-execute-him?ref=home

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Post by magica on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:38 pm

See he's already done 30 years. I think to execute him now is horrible. Over here he'd be out.

Prison with no parole is fair. To kill him thirty years later just isn't justice, its revenge.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 pm

Didge wrote:Carlton Michael Gary was sentenced to death in 1986. He’s scheduled to die Thursday. In between came new evidence casting doubt on his conviction—and pointing to sabotage.

The courtroom drama was intense. On Aug. 15, 1986, Gertrude B. Miller, a 71-year-old white woman, testified about the night she was raped, beaten, and almost murdered by an intruder at her home in Columbus, Georgia, a prosperous city of 200,000 people south of Atlanta.

“I had gone sound asleep and it was then that I realized that someone was right there, on top of me… he turned me over on my back, and he pulled down my nightclothes… he raped me front and back, both, and he hit me on the head… Later on, when he was raping me, he turned the light on so he could see better, the light at the head of the bed.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dna-shows-hes-not-a-killer-georgia-wants-to-execute-him?ref=home

This is why I have issues with the death sentence. Killing guilty people really doesn't bother me, but killing innocent ones does. And as I have gotten older, I have become acutely aware of how incompetent and untrustworthy the state is.

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Post by eddie on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:24 pm

If there’s new evidence then why isn’t he having a new trial?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:33 pm

It's Georgia. He's black. It's southern racism.

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Post by eddie on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:37 pm

Original Quill wrote:It's Georgia.  He's black.  It's southern racism.

That’s possibly true but I’d like to know the reason not your opinion, if that’s possible?
Do you know the reason, seeing as you know the law better than I?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:46 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's Georgia.  He's black.  It's southern racism.

That’s possibly true but I’d like to know the reason not your opinion, if that’s possible?
Do you know the reason, seeing as you know the law better than I?

Reason? Opinion? That is the reason for my opinion.

I live here, and have watched it for all my life. As Henry Hampton said: If you're black in America, race is a factor in your life. Start with that assumption.

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Post by eddie on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:37 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's Georgia.  He's black.  It's southern racism.

That’s possibly true but I’d like to know the reason not your opinion, if that’s possible?
Do you know the reason, seeing as you know the law better than I?

Reason?  Opinion?  That is the reason for my opinion.

I live here, and have watched it for all my life.  As Henry Hampton said: If you're black in America, race is a factor in your life. Start with that assumption.

I had no idea you lived in Georgia.

So did the judge say that? Did he say “No retrial because he’s black and this is Georgia”?

I simply want to know why he’s not having a retrial.

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:40 pm

[*]Carlton Gary, 67, known as the 'Stocking strangler' was executed on Thursday
[*]He supposedly murdered seven women and raped another in Columbus, Georgia
[*]His execution came despite DNA tests proving that the 67-year-old was innocent 


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5513621/Injustice-lethal-injection.html#ixzz5A7Sv3win 
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Post by eddie on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:42 pm

Didge wrote:[*]Carlton Gary, 67, known as the 'Stocking strangler' was executed on Thursday
[*]He supposedly murdered seven women and raped another in Columbus, Georgia
[*]His execution came despite DNA tests proving that the 67-year-old was innocent 


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Well, that’s one reason not to have a retrial. He’s dead.
I suppose I’ll never know now.

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Post by magica on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:43 pm

Whether guilty or not, well never know, he's dead now, nothing can bring him back.
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Post by Original Quill on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:50 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Reason?  Opinion?  That is the reason for my opinion.

I live here, and have watched it for all my life.  As Henry Hampton said: If you're black in America, race is a factor in your life. Start with that assumption.

I had no idea you lived in Georgia.

You don't have to live in the state to know what goes on there. I've been there and seen, many times. I have many friends from Georgia who tell me what it's like. I have lived in other parts of the south--Florida and Louisiana--where they behave the same.

eddie wrote:So did the judge say that? Did he say “No retrial because he’s black and this is Georgia”?

Bad guys with bad motives don't admit their sins.

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Post by eddie on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:53 pm

I have no idea whether the judge was racist or not so it’s all speculation, but what isn’t fair is not giving a man a retrial when there is new evidence.

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Post by magica on Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:57 pm

They wanted to use the drugs before their sell by date. So have done lots across America.
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:07 am

eddie wrote:I have no idea whether the judge was racist or not so it’s all speculation, but what isn’t fair is not giving a man a retrial when there is new evidence.  

Trust me, if he was appointed to a judge in a southern state, he's a racist.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:23 am

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:I have no idea whether the judge was racist or not so it’s all speculation, but what isn’t fair is not giving a man a retrial when there is new evidence.  

Trust me, if he was appointed to a judge in a southern state, he's a racist.

How about born in a southern state and became a lawyer and President of the United States ending slavery?

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