Melania Trump

by Andy Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:33 am

What does she see in an old, fat, balding, inarticulate, racist, sexist, multi timing porn start loving, adultering, multi millionaire?

http://dailym.ai/2FmXD3x

She will off quicker than a whore's drawers as soon as he is impeached.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:35 am

Balding? He has a good head of hair. Are you suggesting that no women should be attracted to balding men?

by Andy Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:37 am

It is a wig and he takes a hair regrowth suppliment, Raggs.
Nothing wrong with losing your hair - I am.

But to pretend otherwise is a vanity project.

Do women adore vain men? You tell me.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:45 am

Angry Andy wrote:It is a wig and he takes a hair regrowth suppliment, Raggs.
Nothing wrong with losing your hair - I am.

But to pretend otherwise is a vanity project.

Do women adore vain men? You tell me.

I thought he had a very specific way of doing his hair. You wouldn't choose a wig like that surely!

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:46 am

Being old isn't a sin either. Being fat - well it's usually self inflicted, but then loads of people are fat. Laughing

by Andy Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:27 am

Nothing wrong with being old either, happens to all of us. She is young enough to be his daughter.And he likes young girls.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:43 am

Angry Andy wrote:Nothing wrong with being old either, happens to all of us. She is young enough to be his daughter.And he likes young girls.

She's 47 - hardly a young girl. Razz

by Andy Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:25 am

As I said, young enough to be his daughter.

Looks like the marriage is in trouble.

It is a 'Stormy' relationship.

She wont get mad, she will get rich.

by Original Quill Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:40 pm

Inquisitr wrote:Melania Trump Was Staying In Posh DC Hotel On Heels Of Trump Affair Allegations, Claims Bombshell Report

New report puts Melania Trump out of the White House and in posh D.C. hotel after allegations surfaced.

Before leaving for Palm Beach yesterday, Melania Trump checked into posh D.C. hotel, claims a new report. In the nights following the Trump-Stormy Daniels affair allegations that saturated the headlines recently, Melania Trump reportedly stayed at a posh D.C. hotel away from Donald Trump. These were the nights before she flew to Palm Beach and around the time she backed out of the trip to Switzerland with her husband, claims a bombshell report today.

According to the Daily Mail, Melania Trump went to Palm Beach on a trip that was unannounced and that also coincided with Donald Trump’s trip to meet with the top CEOs of Europe at the World Summit. Melania Trump’s relationship with Trump has “become strained,” according to the Daily Mail’s source.

This information is coming from “a White House source,” reports the Daily Mail, and this source claims Melania spent “a number of nights” at a posh hotel in D.C. “away from the White House and her husband. Melania has been quiet and has mostly kept out of the public eye since the allegations emerged that Trump’s lawyer, acting on behalf of him, paid off the adult film star with $130,000 in “hush” money.

Trump’s alleged affair has been “upsetting and humiliating,” especially after a long-ago interview was recently published. That interview with Stormy Daniels from 2011 cast a dark cloud over Trump and Stormy’s denial of the affair when it was recently published again in a celebrity magazine. The humiliation of that interview stems from many things reportedly said by Daniels, like she could “intimately describe” Trump’s “manhood,” cites the Daily Mail.

The details surrounding the alleged Trump and Stormy affair puts Melania as a new mother with an infant at home during the timeline reported. Questions among the White House staff emerged when they received a memo this week that Melania will not be going to Davos with her husband as originally planned. Express reports that Melania did indeed touch down in Florida after leaving D.C. on Thursday.

The excuse given to the nation was that Melania wasn’t going due to scheduling and logistical issues. Another memo to staff conveyed that Melania was not expected to make any solo appearances during Trump’s absence from the White House while in Europe, which was described as rather perplexing to staff.

Since Melania was not expected to make any appearances, this memo ended up “drawing into question how her schedule was conflicted,” which was the excuse given for her reason to not join her husband on this trip. According to the Daily Mail, “one well-placed source” said that Melania often spends time away from the White House, and she’s stayed at that posh hotel “multiple times in January.” It is reportedly not unusual for her stays to go for days at a time. She also travels to her home in New York City.

Unlike Melania Trump’s predecessors, she rarely spends any time in her West Wing office, reports this source. Since the allegations of the Trump-Stormy affair made headlines, Melania has only gone out once on a semi-official visit. That was to the Holocaust Museum ahead of Saturday’s Holocaust Remembrance Day.

Unlike other similar outings, the press was not invited to come along. The only publicity this visit was awarded was via Melania’s spokesperson publicizing the event on Twitter. This is Trump’s fifth foreign trip so far, and Melania has accompanied him on the first four. With the Trump couple’s 13th wedding anniversary coming and going without any public acknowledgment from either Donald or Melania, rumors of problems within the marriage started to spin.

Lack of any mention of their anniversary, coupled with the post commemorating the first year in the White House that Melania shared, the rumors of a troubled marriage started to fly. Melania celebrated the first year in the White House with a picture of her and a handsome military officer arm-in-arm from Trump’s inauguration day, and she never mentioned Trump in the caption of that post.

The book Fire and Fury by Michael Wolff has also described an alleged bizarre marriage arrangement between Melania and Donald. In the last few weeks, the Trump marriage has been raked over the coals between an adult film star’s interview and a new best-selling book bringing humiliating rumors to the headlines. From what the Daily Mail’s source has said, these allegations have been both “upsetting” and “humiliating” to Melania Trump.

Update: Just hours after the Daily Mail published their report regarding Melania Trump allegedly staying in a D.C. hotel, her spokesperson, Stephanie Grisham sent out a tweet ripping into the media for “salacious and flat-out false reporting.” While Melania’s spokesperson didn’t link an article to the tweet below, it is reported by The Hill that this tweet came on the heels of the Daily Mail report. Grisham said that the First Lady is focused on her family and her role as the FLOTUS today, but did not address what was in the Daily Mail report. Grisham deemed the “scenarios being peddled daily by the fake news” as “unrealistic” about Melania Trump.
https://www.inquisitr.com/4756509/melania-trump-was-staying-in-posh-dc-hotel-on-heels-of-trump-affair-allegations-claims-bombshell-report/

So many women, so little time.

by JulesV Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:49 pm

Melania rocks!!!! I luv, luv luv the lady. She has grown on me. She sometimes gets criticised but a FLOTUS should surely be off limits and untouchable regarding criticism, unless she does something very wrong - which she never has.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:08 am

I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:52 am

Original Quill wrote:I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:07 pm

Who knows what attracted her to him in the first place...probably money and power.
But she has paid her dues and remains by his side (when protocol demands) she causes no scandal and holds herself with class and dignity.

They have a son together...and she seems to be the one who parents him whilst apparently he has little to do with him.

I think she is probably the best asset Trump has at the moment.

by Andy Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:09 pm

She can do far better than him.
In fact 99% of the population are better human beings than Trump.
He is a philandering racist, with a penchant for touching up young girls.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

I’ve never thought she was with him for fame or money. I think she just fell for him in the way most people fall for someone. But of course, because we all hate him then she must too, right?
Wrong.

I’m not even sure why everyone has to keep going on about his marriage but let’s even things up a little:

Obama is a tiny little man of small stature and his wife is built like a bodybuilder. She could totally kick his arse in a fight amd also in arm-wrestling (have you seen her shoulders??) and quite honestly, I don’t see the attraction in this marriage, either.
I always thought they looked kinda odd together physically but who are we to judge who loves whom?

This thread comes across as rather childish - even the OP is a bit stupid. We know he’s a terrible president but what the fuck have his looks got to do with it?

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:21 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

I’ve never thought she was with him for fame or money. I think she just fell for him in the way most people fall for someone. But if course, becasue we all hate him then she must too, right?
Wrong.

I’m not evensure why everyone has to keep going on about his marriage burn kets even things up a little:

Obama is a tiny little man of small stature and his wife is built like a bodybuilder. She could totally kick his arse in a fight amd also in arm-wrestling (have you seen her shoulders??) and quite honestly, I don’t see the attraction in this marriage, either.
I always thought they looked kinda odd together physically but who are we to judge who loves whom?

This thread comes across as rather childish - even the OP is a bit stupid. We know he’s a terrible president but what the fuck have his looks got to do with it?

I dont think the difference in the Obama marriage and the Trump marriage has anything to do with good looks, build or age.
Its about the respect they share between one another.

You only have to compare the way Obama looks and touches his wife to the cold way Trump acts with Melania.
I often think she looks quite afraid of him.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:25 pm

That’s a fair enough observation. Some people though, were simply banging on about looks.
Like that shit is important as to whether you can run the country?

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:28 pm

Afraid of him? Perhaps she's just a bit nervous when she's in the public eye. Perhaps they have a great relationship - it's not up to anyone to judge either of them for their marriage.

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:29 pm

Being shallow, he wasn't bad looking when he was younger. The man is 70, he isn't supposed to look like Adonis anymore.

Had arguably the most attractive president of all time (JFK) aged, he wouldn't be the handsome all American hero either.

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Afraid of him? Perhaps she's just a bit nervous when she's in the public eye. Perhaps they have a great relationship - it's not up to anyone to judge either of them for their marriage.

Its a thread Rags...where comments are invited.

My comment was based on my opinion ....whether its right or not who knows?

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:34 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

The only implication is, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

(As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.)

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:35 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Afraid of him? Perhaps she's just a bit nervous when she's in the public eye. Perhaps they have a great relationship - it's not up to anyone to judge either of them for their marriage.

For all anyone knows perhaps she’s a moody fucker and she doesn’t like attending boring political things.

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:37 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Afraid of him? Perhaps she's just a bit nervous when she's in the public eye. Perhaps they have a great relationship - it's not up to anyone to judge either of them for their marriage.

For all anyone knows perhaps she’s a moody fucker and she doesn’t like attending boring political things.

Anyone would be a 'moody fucker' having him for a husband surely. Melania Trump 3201073460

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:39 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

Or, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

Clinton is an asshole who spunked all over a young girl’s dress. Did you call for him to be hung, drawn and quartered?
No but you wanted to vote for his stupid wife who utterly forgave the sneaky cheating fucker - clearly she should’ve have divorced him!
And while my we are at it how come no one went on about her looks?

Your bias knows no bounds. You literally choose to ignore one whilst banging on about another. It’s dishonest and unfair.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:50 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Or, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

Clinton is an asshole who spunked all over a young girl’s dress. Did you call for him to be hung, drawn and quartered?

Bill Clinton is not president, nor is he running.

eddie wrote:No but you wanted to vote for his stupid wife who utterly forgave the sneaky cheating fucker - clearly she should’ve have divorced him!

You got some fucked up priorities there, lady. His "stupid wife" was the victim, not the villain. If she showed mercy, that's a virtue and not a sin. I think you are far too intruded into someone else's life drama.

eddie wrote:And while my we are at it how come no one went on about her looks?

Are you talking about the expressions exhibited by Melania during the inauguration? Because no one is doubting that Melania is quite attractive.

eddie wrote:Your bias knows no bounds. You literally choose to ignore one whilst banging on about another. It’s dishonest and unfair.

You are too defensive. Go into your little space and meditate for awhile. You'll feel better.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:58 pm

Ah so you didn’t really want a discussion but swooped in and did exactly what you accuse everyone else of.
I see.

Well apart from the obvious mistakes you’ve made in your post and the obvious swerves (Billy Boy was president at the time of his affair - you really needed me to point that out?) you have literally just assumed I need to go and meditate for some really odd reason.

Oh and I do think people who are publicly humiliated and cheated on by their partners are stupid for staying.
Perhaps it’s happened to you and you forgave them.....me, not so much. Especially since trust and making love to someone are the two biggest gifts I can give and receive from someone I love. You could argue that Clinton destroying the trust he had with his wife made him a wholly untrustworthy person, couldn’t you?

So no. I don’t think Hilary Clinton was a great role model for women.

Also let’s not forget you were convinced Trump was on cocaine not so long ago. I think you just look for anything you can to dislike him when you can simply just dislike him enough for being a horrible human being.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:17 pm

eddie wrote:Ah so you didn’t really want a discussion but swooped in and did exactly what you accuse everyone else of.
I see.

What is that? It's 5:30 in the morning here. I woke up and after coffee, turned on the computer. Is that "swooped in"?

eddie wrote:Well apart from the obvious mistakes you’ve made in your post and the obvious swerves (Billy Boy was president at the time of his affair - you really needed me to point that out?) you have literally just assumed I need to go and meditate for some really odd reason.

I made no mistakes. Bill Clinton was president last century. He's no more relevant than Benjamin Harrison.

eddie wrote:Oh and I do think people who are publicly humiliated and cheated in by their partners are stupid for staying.
Perhaps it’s happened to you and you forgave them, me, not so much. Especially since trust and making love to someone are the two biggest gifts I can give and receive from someone I love.

So no. I don’t think Clinton was a great role model for women.

But just because she wasn't, in your eyes, a hero...is that a reason to judge others? Does everyone have to be a role model, or can they just get on with their lives? Moreover, many would argue, equally, that holding her family together is exemplary and a model of selflessness in itself.

eddie wrote:Also let’s not forget you were convinced Trump was on cocaine not so long ago. I think you just look for anything you can to dislike him when you can simply just dislike him enough for being a horrible human being.

Cocaine is an illegal substance. I am a lawyer, and advocate obeying the law. Read the new book by David Cay Johnston, It's Worse Than You Think. In it, Johnson documents that some of the money laundering carried on by Donald Trump was for cocaine dealers. That makes him a co-conspirator, drug dealer.

I make no apology for wanting a nation of laws, as opposed to one of privileged personalities.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:23 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

The only implication is, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

(As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.)

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

All of us would be delighted? Speak for yourself only. His marriage is nothing to do with what he does as President, and you know nothing about their relationship. Perhaps he's actually fun when he's with her.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:24 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Afraid of him? Perhaps she's just a bit nervous when she's in the public eye. Perhaps they have a great relationship - it's not up to anyone to judge either of them for their marriage.

Its a thread Rags...where comments are invited.

My comment was based on my opinion ....whether its right or not who knows?

I don't think you can compare Obama and Trump in a personal way. Maybe Melania doesn't like public displays of affection.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The only implication is, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

(As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.)

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

All of us would be delighted? Speak for yourself only. His marriage is nothing to do with what he does as President, and you know nothing about their relationship. Perhaps he's actually fun when he's with her.

It's been my observation that no one is pro-Trump, except one poster who is not with us. If you are pro-Trump, that's the first I've heard of it.

All I did was post a press article. The article discussed the marriage. If you feel strongly enough, you should write a letter to the editor.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:35 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

All of us would be delighted? Speak for yourself only. His marriage is nothing to do with what he does as President, and you know nothing about their relationship. Perhaps he's actually fun when he's with her.

It's been my observation that no one is pro-Trump, except one poster who is not with us. If you are pro-Trump, that's the first I've heard of it.

All I did was post a press article. The article discussed the marriage. If you feel strongly enough, you should write a letter to the editor.

It's nothing to do with being "pro-Trump". Being delighted at someone's personal life being in ruins says more about you than him. Judge him on what he does as President, but wishing him personal ill is just childish.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:48 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's been my observation that no one is pro-Trump, except one poster who is not with us. If you are pro-Trump, that's the first I've heard of it.

All I did was post a press article. The article discussed the marriage. If you feel strongly enough, you should write a letter to the editor.

It's nothing to do with being "pro-Trump". Being delighted at someone's personal life being in ruins says more about you than him. Judge him on what he does as President, but wishing him personal ill is just childish.

My message about being delighted was decidedly anti-Trump. You said speak for yourself, indicating disapproval. The opposite of anti-Trump is pro-Trump, so I went with that. So pro-Trump is certainly in the mix.

You can deny it for yourself...but being pro-Trump and anti-Trump was certainly a topic of discussion. It's certainly the background for any schadenfreude arising out of Trump's marital difficulties.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It's nothing to do with being "pro-Trump". Being delighted at someone's personal life being in ruins says more about you than him. Judge him on what he does as President, but wishing him personal ill is just childish.

My message about being delighted was decidedly anti-Trump. You said speak for yourself, indicating disapproval. The opposite of anti-Trump is pro-Trump, so I went with that. So pro-Trump is certainly in the mix.

You can deny it for yourself...but being pro-Trump and anti-Trump was certainly a topic of discussion. It's certainly the background for any schadenfreude arising out of Trump's marital difficulties.

Being anti-Trump doesn't necessarily mean that someone wishes his personal life to be in ruins. I'm anti-childish-people who can't see beyond the gossip and innuendo about his personal life.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:25 pm

I am a tad confused. We are judging Trump on his marriage yet we not supposed to judge another president on his, because he was “last decade” and we must also judge this president on our supposed guessed-at image of his marriage and some video of him sniffing is all the proof we need that he uses cocaine.

I really should understand the ever-moving laws and goalposts in debates. How daft of me.

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:22 pm

Original Quill wrote:I don't think this is a thread critical of Melania.

I know. I really like her now. For a start, she is a doting, devoted mum - that's always a winner in my eyes.
Secondly she is faithful and loyal to her husband (even tho he probably pushes her endurance to the limit sometimes).
In any case, the FLOTUS should be strictly offlimits from criticism, in a fair world.

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:31 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the implication is that she's only with Trump for either fame or money.

I’ve never thought she was with him for fame or money. I think she just fell for him in the way most people fall for someone. But of course, because we all hate him then she must too, right?
Wrong.

I’m not even sure why everyone has to keep going on about his marriage but let’s even things up a little:

Obama is a tiny little man of small stature and his wife is built like a bodybuilder. She could totally kick his arse in a fight amd also in arm-wrestling (have you seen her shoulders??) and quite honestly, I don’t see the attraction in this marriage, either.
I always thought they looked kinda odd together physically but who are we to judge who loves whom?

This thread comes across as rather childish - even the OP is a bit stupid. We know he’s a terrible president but what the fuck have his looks got to do with it?

Not this again!
What's with this fixation with Mrs O's shoulders?
The last row about her shoulders raged on for days! You got in a fight with 4 other women over this issue.
Let her be!

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:44 pm

eddie wrote:

let’s even things up a little

I don’t see the attraction in this marriage, either. :

You even things up by laying into an innocent woman?

Whatever her shoulders look like, they fell madly in love and she gave him two bright, healthy children.
Her shoulders did not get in the way of anything.

As man & wife, their mutual admiration and respect is second to none, they worship each other and they will be together for ever. I reckon the mutual respect comes from the fact that they both educated themselves to a sky high standard, against all odds.

Neither came from a rich family, no free gifts or privileges fell on their laps, ALL their achievements came from their steely willpower and good brains.

Put your shallowness away!

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

My message about being delighted was decidedly anti-Trump. You said speak for yourself, indicating disapproval. The opposite of anti-Trump is pro-Trump, so I went with that. So pro-Trump is certainly in the mix.

You can deny it for yourself...but being pro-Trump and anti-Trump was certainly a topic of discussion. It's certainly the background for any schadenfreude arising out of Trump's marital difficulties.

Being anti-Trump doesn't necessarily mean that someone wishes his personal life to be in ruins. I'm anti-childish-people who can't see beyond the gossip and innuendo about his personal life.

To each his or her own. In America, division has reached a point where those opposed to Trump do wish personal and financial ruin on the man. Ten years ago, Republicans opted for party over country. Speaker Boehner and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said Republicans would work for America to fail as long as Democrats were in power. Now, both sides have dedicated themselves to that end. Today, everything is party loyalty, and I don't believe that there exists anyone who is pulling for America.

At this point no one gives a shit about the success of the United States of America; all they want is for the other side to fail. Trump, himself, wants the FBI and the intelligence community to collapse, and the US military to lose. He declares that all American troops are losers, and the American admirals and generals are rubbish. He doesn't like American POW's because he doesn't like troops who get captured.

Raggs, once again you are being pollyannish and you apparently don't know what is happening in America today.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Being anti-Trump doesn't necessarily mean that someone wishes his personal life to be in ruins. I'm anti-childish-people who can't see beyond the gossip and innuendo about his personal life.

To each his or her own. In America, division has reached a point where those opposed to Trump do wish personal and financial ruin on the man. Ten years ago, Republicans opted for party over country. Speaker Boehner and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said Republicans would work for America to fail as long as Democrats were in power. Now, both sides have dedicated themselves to that end. Today, everything is party loyalty, and I don't believe that there exists anyone who is pulling for America.

At this point no one gives a shit about the success of the United States of America; all they want is for the other side to fail. Trump, himself, wants the FBI and the intelligence community to collapse, and the US military to lose. He declares that all American troops are losers, and the American admirals and generals are rubbish. He doesn't like American POW's because he doesn't like troops who get captured.

Raggs, once again you are being pollyannish and you apparently don't know what is happening in America today.

No one's ever accused me of that before. Laughing

Look, the aim of anti-Trumpsters is to get rid of him as President, yes? That's nothing to do with his personal life, or it shouldn't be. Wishing ill on him personally is just childish at best, and malicious at worst. Even if they did split up, he'd still be President.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

To each his or her own. In America, division has reached a point where those opposed to Trump do wish personal and financial ruin on the man. Ten years ago, Republicans opted for party over country. Speaker Boehner and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said Republicans would work for America to fail as long as Democrats were in power. Now, both sides have dedicated themselves to that end. Today, everything is party loyalty, and I don't believe that there exists anyone who is pulling for America.

At this point no one gives a shit about the success of the United States of America; all they want is for the other side to fail. Trump, himself, wants the FBI and the intelligence community to collapse, and the US military to lose. He declares that all American troops are losers, and the American admirals and generals are rubbish. He doesn't like American POW's because he doesn't like troops who get captured.

Raggs, once again you are being pollyannish and you apparently don't know what is happening in America today.

No one's ever accused me of that before.

I did once...cute, but naive. Wink

Raggamuffin wrote:Look, the aim of anti-Trumpsters is to get rid of him as President, yes? That's nothing to do with his personal life, or it shouldn't be. Wishing ill on him personally is just childish at best, and malicious at worst. Even if they did split up, he'd still be President.

You weren't listening. With Trump, they no longer count his approval numbers. They count his disapproval numbers. The essence of attitudes toward Trump are, they wish him to fail, even if he takes America down with him.

Remember, the code now is: America fails under the leadership of the other party, in order to show how terrible they are/were. America is no more.

Pacific States forever. cheers

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:43 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No one's ever accused me of that before.

I did once...cute, but naive.

Raggamuffin wrote:Look, the aim of anti-Trumpsters is to get rid of him as President, yes? That's nothing to do with his personal life, or it shouldn't be. Wishing ill on him personally is just childish at best, and malicious at worst. Even if they did split up, he'd still be President.

You weren't listening. With Trump, they no longer count his approval numbers. They count his disapproval numbers. The essence of attitudes toward Trump are, they wish him to fail, even if he takes America down with him.

Remember, the code now is: America fails under the leadership of the other party, in order to show how terrible they are/were. America is no more.

Pacific States forever.

Being Pollyannaish doesn't mean being naive, it means seeing the positive in everything - to the extent of being rather annoying. Laughing

What does the rest of your post have to do with Trump's personal life, and people wishing it would fail?

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:47 pm

Original Quill wrote:

The only implication is, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

(As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.)

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

Tbh I don't think she'd have married a twice divorced guy 25 years older, with 4 kids, IF he did not have a lot ot offer (ie huge wealth.). And I did call her a gold digger once, on here, after she sued someone for megabucks cos the person implied she was a gold digger. I thought she was being too precious about it all.
But she never put a foot wrong since.

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:48 pm

Jules wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The only implication is, Donald's an asshole who reneges on his marital vows.

(As long as we're speculating, how about my theory, that Melania is the Russian FSB control, running her husband for Putin. She doesn't give a hoot about the philander's affairs with porn stars. She's a professional.)

However, the thread doesn't even get into the question of Melania's motives. I think all of us would be delighted if Donald's personal life were in ruins...first president to divorce while in office, and all that. Now, there's a direct link to where this thread is going.

Tbh I don't think she'd have married a twice divorced guy 25 years older, with 4 kids, IF he did not have a lot to offer (ie huge wealth.). And I did call her a gold digger once, on here, after she sued someone for megabucks cos the person implied she was a gold digger. I thought she was being too precious about it all.
But she never put a foot wrong since.

by JulesV Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:53 pm

Women are genetically programmed to be attracted to men who can provide security for her and their future offspring.

A 'gold digger' marriage is never one sided, it's always a trade off.
HE gets to step out with a young attractive woman hanging off his arm - great for his ego and his social life.
SHE gets the security of pots of money.
Win/win, everyone's happy!

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:56 pm

Jules wrote:
Tbh I don't think she'd have married a twice divorced guy 25 years older, with 4 kids, IF he did not have a lot to offer (ie huge wealth.). And I did call her a gold digger once, on here, after she sued someone for megabucks cos the person implied she was a gold digger. I thought she was being too precious about it all.
But she never put a foot wrong since.

I agree. I'm not adverse to calling it what it is, with her.

It's just that this particular criticism is not aimed at her per se. It's an expected event, caused by the philandering of her husband.

by Syl Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:05 pm

Quill, you seem to have mellowed somewhat in regard to Melania.
Its not that long ago you were calling her a prostitute.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:07 pm

Jules wrote:
eddie wrote:

let’s even things up a little

I don’t see the attraction in this marriage, either. :

You even things up by laying into an innocent woman?

Whatever her shoulders look like, they fell madly in love and she gave him two bright, healthy children.
Her shoulders did not get in the way of anything.

As man & wife, their mutual admiration and respect is second to none, they worship each other and they will be together for ever. I reckon the mutual respect comes from the fact that they both educated themselves to a sky high standard, against all odds.

Neither came from a rich family, no free gifts or privileges fell on their laps, ALL their achievements came from their steely willpower and good brains.

Put your shallowness away!

I beg your pardon? This whole thread is shallow. That was my whole entire fucking point which of course went over your tiny pencil head. You have that annoying habit of taking a sentence totally out of context and it’s a shitty way to debate.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:10 pm

eddie wrote:
Jules wrote:

You even things up by laying into an innocent woman?

Whatever her shoulders look like, they fell madly in love and she gave him two bright, healthy children.
Her shoulders did not get in the way of anything.

As man & wife, their mutual admiration and respect is second to none, they worship each other and they will be together for ever. I reckon the mutual respect comes from the fact that they both educated themselves to a sky high standard, against all odds.

Neither came from a rich family, no free gifts or privileges fell on their laps, ALL their achievements came from their steely willpower and good brains.

Put your shallowness away!

I beg your pardon? This whole thread is shallow. That was my whole entire fucking point which of course went over your tiny pencil head. You have that annoying habit of taking a sentence totally out of context and it’s a shitty way to debate.

Exactly. The whole discussion has been rather shallow really. If it's not people commenting on Trump's looks, it's people assuming that she married him for his money.

You know what? Maybe they actually get on very well and have fun when they're together and not at a public function. Maybe she actually has a lot of feelings for him.

by eddie Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:13 pm

Exactly Rags. I had an idea my point would be taken and twisted into shapes to suit the mood.

by Original Quill Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:23 pm

Syl wrote:Quill, you seem to have mellowed somewhat in regard to Melania.
Its not that long ago you were calling her a prostitute.

As have you, and for the same reason. I like Melania...and I was curious about the marriage when I saw the behavior of Trump at his Inauguration. I've since read about what was going on at the time in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff:

Michael Wolff wrote:His temper did not improve. Throughout the morning, he was visibly fighting with his wife, who seemed on the verge of tears and would return to New York the next day; almost every word he addressed to her was sharp and peremptory. Kellyanne Conway had taken up Melania Trump as a personal PR mission, promoting the few First Lady as a vital pillar of support for the president and a helpful voice in her own right, and was trying to convince Trump that she could have an important role in the White House. But, in general, the Trumps' relationship was one of those things nobody asked too many questions about--another mysterious variable in the presidential mood.

I have developed a lot more sympathy for her.

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