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Post by Guest Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:40 pm

When Democrats talk about Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon and Russia, they usually unload on the White House with both barrels.

But that changed last week, when lawmakers—some of whom have been the most critical of Trump and his Kremlin-friendly actions—offered effusive praise for his administration after it issued new Russia-related sanctions in close consultation with Congress.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-are-actually-praising-team-trump-for-taking-on-russia?ref=home

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Post by Maddog Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:36 pm

Didge wrote:When Democrats talk about Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon and Russia, they usually unload on the White House with both barrels.

But that changed last week, when lawmakers—some of whom have been the most critical of Trump and his Kremlin-friendly actions—offered effusive praise for his administration after it issued new Russia-related sanctions in close consultation with Congress.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-are-actually-praising-team-trump-for-taking-on-russia?ref=home

This doesn't fit neatly into a nice little box. The usual suspects will ignore this story. Cool
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Post by Original Quill Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:21 pm

Plus, those sanctions were passed over strong objections from the White House.  Trump signed them because they had overwhelming support from Congress.

BTW, hold your cheers. We will have to wait until February to see if Trump actually implements them.  That's when they are supposed to go into effect.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:25 pm

This is kind of like when someone says "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:33 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:This is kind of like when someone says "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.

No its actually like some people being humble admitting he has gotten something right.

Now I think Trump is a complete arse, but I can at least admit when he has done something right.

Only someone driven by hate, is incapable of seeing that person do anything right.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:38 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:This is kind of like when someone says "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.

No its actually like some people being humble admitting he has gotten something right.

Now I think Trump is a complete arse, but I can at least admit when he has done something right.

Only someone driven by hate, is incapable of seeing that person do anything right.

The sanctions targeted Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the Chechen Republic and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, over allegations of corruption and extrajudicial killings.

In other words, yes -- Trump is getting praise for doing something he's supposed to do. He's set the bar so low that even a basic display of competency is now considered news.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:40 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:This is kind of like when someone says "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.

No its actually like some people being humble admitting he has gotten something right.

Why to you attribute this to Trump? Don't you realize that the US government has three branches, with specific constitutional duties for each?

These Russia sanctions were passed by Congress, by a huge margin (99% in the Senate). Pro-Russia Trump fumed over their passage. But he's obliged to implement them.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:41 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

No its actually like some people being humble admitting he has gotten something right.

Now I think Trump is a complete arse, but I can at least admit when he has done something right.

Only someone driven by hate, is incapable of seeing that person do anything right.

The sanctions targeted Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the Chechen Republic and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, over allegations of corruption and extrajudicial killings.

In other words, yes -- Trump is getting praise for doing something he's supposed to do. He's set the bar so low that even a basic display of competency is now considered news.

Which he is doing, is he not?

Yet you cannot find it within you to say he is doing the right thing.

Only so much bent up hate creates such a feeling in people

So much so, as look at your pathetic excuses.

He has done the right thing, you should commend that.

Its that simple, but sadly your hate denies you being the better person, thus ensuring the divide continues in the US between people

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:43 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:



In other words, yes -- Trump is getting praise for doing something he's supposed to do. He's set the bar so low that even a basic display of competency is now considered news.

Which he is doing, is he not?

Yet you cannot find it within you to say he is doing the right thing.

Well, and the janitor is doing a good job of sweeping up. It's what he is paid to do.

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Post by Maddog Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:44 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:This is kind of like when someone says "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.

They have accomplished being boring. Wink
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Didge wrote:

Which he is doing, is he not?

Yet you cannot find it within you to say he is doing the right thing.

Well, and the janitor is doing a good job of sweeping up.  It's what he is paid to do.

Thank you for proving my point

Only so much bent up hate denies people praising something good done

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:47 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Well, and the janitor is doing a good job of sweeping up.  It's what he is paid to do.

Thank you for proving my point

Only so much bent up hate denies people praising something good done

I praised the janitor. I will even praise the cook in the cafeteria. Good job, good job!

Whether I praise them or not, they will still show up for work. It's what they get paid to do.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:49 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Thank you for proving my point

Only so much bent up hate denies people praising something good done

I praised the janitor.  I will even praise the cook in the cafeteria.  Good job, good job!

Whether I praise them or not, they will still show up for work.  It's what they get paid to do.

So you wont praise Trump for doing the right thing, even though you constantly praise Obama for doing many rights things

Which shows you are contradicting yourself

In other words you offer up pathetic excuses

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:07 pm

Didge wrote:
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I praised the janitor.  I will even praise the cook in the cafeteria.  Good job, good job!

Whether I praise them or not, they will still show up for work.  It's what they get paid to do.

So you wont praise Trump for doing the right thing, even though you constantly praise Obama for doing many rights things

First, Trump hasn't imposed the sanctions yet.  Given his opposition to sanctions, there's reason to believe that he might not do it.  But even if he does...that's what he's paid to do.  It's not as if he initiated the sanctions.

Obama is praised because of the truly superb job of steering the country in the face of obstreperous and unnecessary opposition.  He kept us out of war--among a government of warmongering Republicans--and created  the positive economic culture that we enjoy today.  Now, that was truly above and beyond the call of duty.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Thank you for proving my point

Only so much bent up hate denies people praising something good done

I praised the janitor.  I will even praise the cook in the cafeteria.  Good job, good job!

Whether I praise them or not, they will still show up for work.  It's what they get paid to do.

So you wont praise Trump for doing the right thing, even though you constantly praise Obama for doing many rights things

Which shows you are contradicting yourself

In other words you offer up pathetic excuses

Um, I can't speak for Quill, but I'm quite sure I never heaped praise on Obama for doing a basic part of his job.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

So you wont praise Trump for doing the right thing, even though you constantly praise Obama for doing many rights things

First, Trump hasn't imposed the sanctions yet.  

So when he does, you will praise him then ?

Yes or no?

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:10 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

So you wont praise Trump for doing the right thing, even though you constantly praise Obama for doing many rights things

Which shows you are contradicting yourself

In other words you offer up pathetic excuses

Um, I can't speak for Quill, but I'm quite sure I never heaped praise on Obama for doing a basic part of his job.

Another pathetic excuse of an answer

You sang everytime you mentioned Obama's name, let alone anything he did.

If he had a dump, you would have stated it was for the benefit of the nation

You just prove you are to the opposition, in that, they cannot stomach saying you approve of something and help bridge divides between people in the US

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:13 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Um, I can't speak for Quill, but I'm quite sure I never heaped praise on Obama for doing a basic part of his job.

Another pathetic excuse of an answer

You sang everytime you mentioned Obama's name, let alone anything he did.

If he had a dump, you would have stated it was for the benefit of the nation

You just prove you are to the opposition, in that, they cannot stomach saying you approve of something and help bridge divides between people in the US

You're repeating yourself. If you have nothing more, I'm going to check other threads.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Another pathetic excuse of an answer

You sang everytime you mentioned Obama's name, let alone anything he did.

If he had a dump, you would have stated it was for the benefit of the nation

You just prove you are to the opposition, in that, they cannot stomach saying you approve of something and help bridge divides between people in the US

You're repeating yourself.  If you have nothing more, I'm going to check other threads.

Ahh bless someone cannot face the truth, that the reality is you are no better than those on the right.

You cannot find it in you to praise something done right, simple due to who its done by.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You're repeating yourself.  If you have nothing more, I'm going to check other threads.

Ahh bless someone cannot face the truth, that the reality is you are no better than those on the right.

You already said that.

Didge wrote:You cannot find it in you to praise something done right, simple due to who its done by.

Um...and that as well.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:22 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Ahh bless someone cannot face the truth, that the reality is you are no better than those on the right.

You already said that.

Didge wrote:You cannot find it in you to praise something done right, simple due to who its done by.

Um...and that as well.

Mainly as you cannot answer a simple question and offer up pathetic excuses.

Same point still stand

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:30 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You already said that.



Um...and that as well.

Mainly as you cannot answer a simple question and offer up pathetic excuses.

Same point still stand

You've also repeated that.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:32 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Mainly as you cannot answer a simple question and offer up pathetic excuses.

Same point still stand

You've also repeated that.


As I am still waiting for an answer and I can do this all day

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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:37 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You've also repeated that.


As I am still waiting for an answer and I can do this all day

No you're not.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:46 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:


As I am still waiting for an answer and I can do this all day

No you're not.


Still waiting

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Post by Maddog Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:00 pm

Didge wrote:
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Um, I can't speak for Quill, but I'm quite sure I never heaped praise on Obama for doing a basic part of his job.

Another pathetic excuse of an answer

You sang everytime you mentioned Obama's name, let alone anything he did.

If he had a dump, you would have stated it was for the benefit of the nation

You just prove you are to the opposition, in that, they cannot stomach saying you approve of something and help bridge divides between people in the US

It's tribalism. It makes people who otherwise appear intelligent, appear a bit crazy.

It's amazing how people can't say anything good about people in a different tribe.

I remember when the Dems started their nomination process for POTUS. Jim Webb was still in it. They asked the nominees about their greatest victory over an enemy, or some shit like that. Hillary talked about a victory over some republican idea or law. Webb thought it was silly that Hillary thought the republicans were on a different team and the enemy. He said his greatest victory over an enemy was when he killed a Vietnamese soldier who was trying to kill him and his men.
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:18 pm

Maddog wrote:
Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Um, I can't speak for Quill, but I'm quite sure I never heaped praise on Obama for doing a basic part of his job.

Another pathetic excuse of an answer

You sang everytime you mentioned Obama's name, let alone anything he did.

If he had a dump, you would have stated it was for the benefit of the nation

You just prove you are to the opposition, in that, they cannot stomach saying you approve of something and help bridge divides between people in the US

It's tribalism. It makes people who otherwise appear intelligent, appear a bit crazy.

It's amazing how people can't say anything good about people in a different tribe.

I remember when the Dems started their nomination process for POTUS. Jim Webb was still in it. They asked the nominees about their greatest victory over an enemy, or some shit like that. Hillary talked about a victory over some republican idea or law. Webb thought it was silly that Hillary thought the republicans were on a different team and the enemy. He said his greatest victory over an enemy was when he killed a Vietnamese soldier who was trying to kill him and his men.      

First off, to address Didge, I've criticized Obama plenty of times. But you know, there are plenty of people out there who say he's a Kenyan-born Muslim communist Antichrist out to ban the Boy Scouts, and I don't have to join their chorus in order to prove that I'm middle-of-the-road when I'm not -- I'm a liberal, and I agreed with Obama on more issues than I disagreed with him on.

I certainly never referred to him as "God Emperor" Cool

Maddog, in that debate, Anderson Cooper asked:

"Franklin Delano Roosevelt once said, “I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.” You’ve all made a few people upset over your political careers. Which enemy are you most proud of?"

Clinton's response was:

"Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians.

(LAUGHTER)

Probably the Republicans."

Webb's response was:

"I’d have to say the enemy soldier that threw the grenade that wounded me, but he’s not around right now to talk to."

He didn't even answer the question, who are you proudest to have as an enemy, a question that reveals a lot about what you stand for and is thus useful information for voters.

Now, I'd consider the Republican Party an enemy too, and if you'd care to ask me for actual reasons why, I'd be happy to provide them. I can tell you right now, though, that it has nothing to do with tribalism.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:35 pm

There's nothing wrong with giving praise where it's due; and nothing wrong with giving criticism where it's due. It is what it is.

Obama was probably the best (most skillful) president we've ever had.  Trump, the most flawed.  That being the case, we need no excuses.

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Original Quill wrote:There's nothing wrong with giving praise where it's due; and nothing wrong with giving criticism where it's due.  It is what it is.

Obama was probably the best (most skillful) president we've ever had.  Trump, the most flawed.  That being the case, we need no excuses.

youre such a piss taking dick

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Ben Reilly wrote:
Maddog wrote:

It's tribalism. It makes people who otherwise appear intelligent, appear a bit crazy.

It's amazing how people can't say anything good about people in a different tribe.

I remember when the Dems started their nomination process for POTUS. Jim Webb was still in it. They asked the nominees about their greatest victory over an enemy, or some shit like that. Hillary talked about a victory over some republican idea or law. Webb thought it was silly that Hillary thought the republicans were on a different team and the enemy. He said his greatest victory over an enemy was when he killed a Vietnamese soldier who was trying to kill him and his men.      

First off, to address Didge, I've criticized Obama plenty of times. But you know, there are plenty of people out there who say he's a Kenyan-born Muslim communist Antichrist out to ban the Boy Scouts, and I don't have to join their chorus in order to prove that I'm middle-of-the-road when I'm not -- I'm a liberal, and I agreed with Obama on more issues than I disagreed with him on.

Whoopdeefuckingdo

I asked you a simple question based on Trump doing the right thing.

Which he has done twice

One in actually doing what the Senate has voted for years backing

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem, the second sanctions against Russia

You then come out with more misdirection horseshit, than Trump on his election campaign

Its a simple question on why you are so two faced?

As why can you not commened him on either issue?

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:54 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Maddog wrote:

It's tribalism. It makes people who otherwise appear intelligent, appear a bit crazy.

It's amazing how people can't say anything good about people in a different tribe.

I remember when the Dems started their nomination process for POTUS. Jim Webb was still in it. They asked the nominees about their greatest victory over an enemy, or some shit like that. Hillary talked about a victory over some republican idea or law. Webb thought it was silly that Hillary thought the republicans were on a different team and the enemy. He said his greatest victory over an enemy was when he killed a Vietnamese soldier who was trying to kill him and his men.      

First off, to address Didge, I've criticized Obama plenty of times. But you know, there are plenty of people out there who say he's a Kenyan-born Muslim communist Antichrist out to ban the Boy Scouts, and I don't have to join their chorus in order to prove that I'm middle-of-the-road when I'm not -- I'm a liberal, and I agreed with Obama on more issues than I disagreed with him on.

Whoopdeefuckingdo

I asked you a simple question based on Trump doing the right thing.

Which he has done twice

One in actually doing what the Senate has voted for years backing

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem, the second sanctions against Russia

You then come out with more misdirection horseshit, than Trump on his election campaign

Its a simple question on why you are so two faced?

As why can you not commened him on either issue?

Again, he's done his job for once. Whoopdefuckingdo.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:58 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

Whoopdeefuckingdo

I asked you a simple question based on Trump doing the right thing.

Which he has done twice

One in actually doing what the Senate has voted for years backing

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem, the second sanctions against Russia

You then come out with more misdirection horseshit, than Trump on his election campaign

Its a simple question on why you are so two faced?

As why can you not commened him on either issue?

Again, he's done his job for once. Whoopdefuckingdo.

Still have not the balls have you?

Pathetic

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