Terror attack on Muslims

by Andy Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:39 am

First topic message reminder :

1 killed, 8 maimed as white van man mows down Muslims leaving a mosque.
"I want to kill Muslims", he yelled as he was apprehended.
One dead in London mosque attack

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40322960

It didnt take long for the racists, Stormee and Smelly Bandit on the sick forum to start gloating, grinning as they typed.
Here is Srormees take on it.

"Major Today at 10:06 am

Musta bin a LEARNER driver.

No one is showing concern for damage to the white van

Suppose the government will ban ALL white vans now.

Muzzzzizzzz are complaining it took too long for plod to arrive."

by Andy Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:58 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They were specific in what they saw... mulitple separate individual accounts saying 3 in van and 2 ran off...

Was live on bbc news between 3.00am and 4.30am...

Stormee and Kaka

by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:36 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They were specific in what they saw... mulitple separate individual accounts saying 3 in van and 2 ran off...

Was live on bbc news between 3.00am and 4.30am...

All the early eye witnesses said the same...

Said 2 ran off leaving the cardiff man who looked 'cracked up out of his head/out of it/drunk etc'...!!!

Try to find some of the early news reports yourself to see what im saying is true... i was watching it live!!!

by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:44 pm

Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:They were specific in what they saw... mulitple separate individual accounts saying 3 in van and 2 ran off...

Was live on bbc news between 3.00am and 4.30am...

Who were specific?

How many saw them?

How many did not?

Again has this been verified?

by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:03 pm

All the early eye witnesses shown on bbc news between 3 and 4 am said the same thing...

by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:07 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:All the early eye witnesses shown on bbc news between 3 and 4 am said the same thing...

So again that is two people who claim this and countless others that make no such claim

Is it possible they mistook people fleeing as a potential attacker?

Again has this been verified there was more than one attacker?

CCTV evidence, of which there seems to be plenty of video evidence showing these two claimed other men?

by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:36 pm

Im only going by what all the early witnesses said on camera to the bbc news broadcasters live from the scene...

Can you show CCTV of the 2 running off and that they were not running from being inside van...?

Until then i will be believing what the multiple eye witnesses said on camera to the bbc live broadcast news reporters...!

by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Im only going by what all the early witnesses said on camera to the bbc news broadcasters live from the scene...

Can you show CCTV of the 2 running off and that they were not running from being inside van...?

Until then i will be believing what the multiple eye witnesses said on camera to the bbc live broadcast news reporters...!

No you are going off two eye witnesses, that could easily have been mistaken, due to the fact nobody else has claimed this.

The onus is on you to show there was 2 men getting out of the van and running off, which is weird considering they apprehended the actual terrorist who committed this who did actually try to run away. So you need to show cctv evidence of them, I dont as you claiming there was 2 other men.

You can believe in Allah for all i care, that does not make Allah exist or these two supposed other men.

by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:51 pm

There were more than two eye witnesses who said it... and all said cardif man looked out of it...

by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:56 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:There were more than two eye witnesses who said it... and all said cardif man looked out of it...

Here we go again.

Do you not think the Police have already investigated this claim?

Why do you think, they are saying its only one attacker?

Take your time

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:17 am

Eye witnesses said the saw the others IN the van... then van turned towards the people on pavement... then two ran off from van and away into surrounding area... leaving cardiff man there...

It was all over the bbc news from 3am... I was watching it live... I know what I saw...!

by Guest Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:19 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Eye witnesses said the saw the others IN the van... then van turned towards the people on pavement... then two ran off from van and away into surrounding area... leaving cardiff man there...

It was all over the bbc news from 3am... I was watching it live... I know what I saw...!

You did not see two men run off though did you?

Yes, you have repeated yourself countless times, of which I am at a loss as to why you are boring everyone with this.

So you are saying two other Far right terrorists have got away?

Or that he had passengers with nothing to do with this?

Or there was nobody else at all, as has been seen by the fact Police have said there is only one attacker?

by Guest Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:31 am

Right, I am going to bed, as getting really bored with the tedious spamming by Tommy, which no point is ever being made on this by Tommy, other than to repeat himself.

Night everyone

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:08 am

I am saying what the numerous early eye witnesses were saying happened, on the bbc news 24 channel from 3am to 4.30am...

No doubt that bbc radio stations and multiple other tv/radio programmes were also featuring same eye witnesses accounts for long enough that millions of people just here in uk alone would have heard their first hand story of what happened...

They were adamant that they saw 2 run away from van and disappeared into surrounding area as cardiff man was left with the crowd, looking completely out of his face...!!!

by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:57 am

So... still silence about the other two who ran off from the van...

by Syl Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:17 am

I cant find any news report that mentioned any other men Tommy.

Its now clear that the elderly man who was being tended to outside the mosque died from the injuries he received after the van hit him.

by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:16 pm

It was all over the news at the time Syl...

by Andy Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:42 pm

It's plausable Tom. Far right extremists are renowned for their stupidy.
Does anyone seriously believe the driver was bright enough to hire a van then navigate it to North London, by himself?

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:03 pm

Thorin wrote:
Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:They were specific in what they saw... mulitple separate individual accounts saying 3 in van and 2 ran off...

Was live on bbc news between 3.00am and 4.30am...

Who were specific?

How many saw them?

How many did not?

Again has this been verified?

Eyewitness who was there, says TWO MEN RAN OFF:

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:07 pm

And another eyewitness says that two men ran off:

by Fuzzy Zack Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:33 pm

eddie wrote:And another eyewitness says that two men ran off:

If you listen to what he says about "others", it's pure hearsay.

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:35 pm

And the other video above that one? He says he SAW the two guys running off.

I don't care either way, makes no odds how many bastards did it, just wouldnt like to think anyone got away with murder.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:37 pm

eddie wrote:And the other video above that one? He says he SAW the two guys running off.

I don't care either way, makes no odds how many bastards did it, just wouldnt like to think anyone got away with murder.

No, he said his friend told him there were two others.

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:52 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:And the other video aboveb that one? He says he SAW the two guys running off.

I don't care either way, makes no odds how many bastards did it, just wouldnt like to think anyone got away with murder.

No, he said his friend told him there were two others.

Sorry I stand corrected. I suppose his friends were lying then and all the other people who saw them including a cab driver who told the police he saw them get out of the van.

Like I said, I have heard this myself but it doesn't matter as long as they caught the driver I guess.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:53 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No, he said his friend told him there were two others.

Sorry I stand corrected. I suppose his frejdns were lying then and all the other people who saw them including a cab driver who told the police he saw them get out of the van.

Like I said, I have heard this myself but it doesn't need matter as long as they caught the driver I guess.

I'm not saying anyone's lying, but he was just repeating what they said, or what he thought they said. He could have misheard them.

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No, he said his friend told him there were two others.

Sorry I stand corrected. I suppose his frejdns were lying then and all the other people who saw them including a cab driver who told the police he saw them get out of the van.

Like I said, I have heard this myself but it doesn't need matter as long as they caught the driver I guess.

I'm not saying anyone's lying, but he was just repeating what they said, or what he thought they said. He could have misheard them.

I doubt that. If he was the only person who'd said that then I may have been inclined to agree with you.

Hahahahaha look how I spelled the word "friends"! I edited it but not before you'd quoted me. Razz

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:56 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm not saying anyone's lying, but he was just repeating what they said, or what he thought they said. He could have misheard them.

I doubt that. If he was the only person who'd said that then I may have been inclined to agree with you.

Hahahahaha look how I spelled the word "friends"! I edited it but not before you'd quoted me.

Too late to edit. Razz

Are there any witnesses who say they actually saw two other men?

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:07 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm not saying anyone's lying, but he was just repeating what they said, or what he thought they said. He could have misheard them.

I doubt that. If he was the only person who'd said that then I may have been inclined to agree with you.

Hahahahaha look how I spelled the word "friends"! I edited it but not before you'd quoted me.

Too late to edit.

Are there any witnesses who say they actually saw two other men?

A mini cab driver and others. All hearsay perhaps?

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:08 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Too late to edit.

Are there any witnesses who say they actually saw two other men?

A mini cab driver and others. All hearsay perhaps?

I mean are there any videos of them actually saying it?

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:11 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Too late to edit.

Are there any witnesses who say they actually saw two other men?

A mini cab driver and others. All hearsay perhaps?

I mean are there any videos of them actually saying it?

I have looked on YouTube but there are so many videos!

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:20 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I mean are there any videos of them actually saying it?

I have looked on YouTube but there are so many videos!

Yeah - I'll have a look too to see if there are any direct witnesses.

by nicko Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:28 pm

It was two men who escaped being hit by the car and run away.

by Syl Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:22 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It was all over the news at the time Syl...

I didn't hear that on the news, but I had local BBC radio on so the London news would have been different.
In the 2 videos posted on here, its the same man who mentions 2 others running away, and he didn't see them himself, he was told that by someone else.

I'm not arguing you heard that though, when something first happens there is always several different versions of events.

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:27 pm

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:It was all over the news at the time Syl...

I didn't hear that on the news, but I had local BBC radio on so the London news would have been different.
In the 2 videos posted on here, its the same man who mentions 2 others running away, and he didn't see them himself, he was told that by someone else.

I'm not arguing you heard that though, when something first happens there is always several different versions of events.

It isn't the same man in both videos? scratch

by Syl Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:37 pm

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:
I didn't hear that on the news, but I had local BBC radio on so the London news would have been different.
In the 2 videos posted on here, its the same man who mentions 2 others running away, and he didn't see them himself, he was told that by someone else.

I'm not arguing you heard that though, when something first happens there is always several different versions of events.

It isn't the same man in both videos?

It is...put your glasses on. Cool

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:06 pm

It is the same man!

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:40 pm

Oh. Bloody hell. How dumb am I? Terror attack on Muslims - Page 2 3489511464

Okay I need a trip to the optometrist.

by Syl Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:01 pm

by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:37 pm

The ones interviewed on bbc at the time i said were saying they saw what i said...

by eddie Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:36 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The ones interviewed on bbc at the time i said were saying they saw what i said...

Have you tried to find the footage?

by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:27 pm

eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The ones interviewed on bbc at the time i said were saying they saw what i said...

Have you tried to find the footage?

I cant watch vids at mo cos dodgy internet conx...

But google search showed this...

About 1,130,000 results
Finsbury Park 'attack' leaves one dead and injures eight more after ...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../finsbury-park-attack-van-12-people-injured-mosque-seven-sisters-road/
4 days ago ... Finsbury Park 'attack' leaves one dead and injures eight more after hire van .... said he had heard there “might” have been two other attackers who had run off. ... “Two people ran away and one got taken away to the police.”.

However i couldnt see any mention of it in article...

But check out pics of alleged attacker looking bang out of his head...

Plus 2 pics of front of van that show no damage considering it had supposedly just ploughed through a crowd at speed...

Also look how happy the 3 medics look in other picture while wheeling someone on stretcher/trolly...

by Guest Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:49 pm

You did not see two men run off though did you?

Yes, you have repeated yourself countless times, of which I am at a loss as to why you are boring everyone with this.

So you are saying two other Far right terrorists have got away?

Or that he had passengers with nothing to do with this?

Or there was nobody else at all, as has been seen by the fact Police have said there is only one attacker?

by eddie Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:30 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The ones interviewed on bbc at the time i said were saying they saw what i said...

Have you tried to find the footage?

I cant watch vids at mo cos dodgy internet conx...

But google search showed this...

About 1,130,000 results
Finsbury Park 'attack' leaves one dead and injures eight more after ...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../finsbury-park-attack-van-12-people-injured-mosque-seven-sisters-road/
4 days ago ... Finsbury Park 'attack' leaves one dead and injures eight more after hire van .... said he had heard there “might” have been two other attackers who had run off. ... “Two people ran away and one got taken away to the police.”.

However i couldnt see any mention of it in article...

But check out pics of alleged attacker looking bang out of his head...

Plus 2 pics of front of van that show no damage considering it had supposedly just ploughed through a crowd at speed...

Also look how happy the 3 medics look in other picture while wheeling someone on stretcher/trolly...

I'd like to see your photos but your link doesn't work.

I too, thought the attacker looked out of his face - nothing odd about taking drugs before you're about to drive a van into someone though. I also thought the van looked undamaged but I have no answer to that apart from it may have been a bad angle or the lighting wasn't right. Don't know.

Not seen the other photo you referred to.

by Tommy Monk Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:58 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3829355/finsbury-park-mosque-terrorist-drives-van-into-people-timeline/

by Tommy Monk Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:51 am

Eddie... the news media often update/change their articles and also update/change their links to their articles etc... but search engines (such as google/bing/yahoo etc) will often still show older entries, because of the way search engines work and because the list they are searching through is updated at a much slower rate...

All i was showing was that it was mentioned that 2 ran off...

by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:56 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Eddie... the news media often update/change their articles and also update/change their links to their articles etc... but search engines (such as google/bing/yahoo etc) will often still show older entries, because of the way search engines work and because the list they are searching through is updated at a much slower rate...

All i was showing was that it was mentioned that 2 ran off...

So you have a couple of witnesses

Yet countless others including those hurt and injured by the attack, that make no such claim.

Why is that?

Are you claiming that all those hurt and that they are on a conspiracy of silence and have been bought Tommy?

I still want to know why you are so interested in this.

Is it because of the following?

So are you saying two other Far right terrorists have got away?

That the Government set this up and that the actual terrorist was a patsy?

Or that he had passengers with nothing to do with this?

Or there was nobody else at all, as has been seen by the fact Police have said there is only one attacker?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:23 am

If there were two other men involved, that would suggest a further degree of planning. There have been reports that Darren Osborne has mental problems and had asked to be sectioned not long ago. The presence of accomplices would change that.

by Guest Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:29 am

Raggamuffin wrote:If there were two other men involved, that would suggest a further degree of planning. There have been reports that Darren Osborne has mental problems and had asked to be sectioned not long ago. The presence of accomplices would change that.

He originally planned to attack a march. This was clearly an on the spur of the moment attack on the Mosque. The attack on the Mosques was not planned and only done because he arrived to late to carry out his planned attack.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/20/finsbury-park-terror-suspect-planned-attack-Muslim-march-london/

The problem with any incident is that at the beginning there is always confusion and conflicting reports.

The Police do not believe there is any accomplices

by eddie Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:47 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
You pompous pillock, Fred.
Why dont you utterly condemn Stormee SB,and Kaka both on here and on Flop, instead of yoir usual pontification?
They are laughing and cheering about last night.

Andy since you insist on checking other places to bring their BS here, at least have the decency to acknowledge that Ed did in fact condemn Major on that very thread, along with another. And good for them, racists and outright morons rule the roost there. But Ed is not one of them. At least see when people are on the same side as you on something, just because someone has RW views on economics does not mean they are automatically far-right monsters

Is that Ed (as in Edmund) or Eds (as in Eddie), Lez?

Andy appears to be either confused or deliberately in denial.

If it's Ed (as in Edmund) thanks. What folk here like you think is important to me; what fools like Andy think doesn't even register on the scale.

And everyone already knows that Eds (as in Eddie) doesn't have a racist breath in her body - well, the ones with active braincells at least know.

And so far as I can see, she didn't post in that otherwise offensive thread on IAF...the other poster was someone called Costa.

Only just seen this. Thank you Lord Ed. I love you

And like you, even I feel I see any threads or posts, especially by major or blackie, I find ignoring them is the best way. It's just beating your head on a very dense wall otherwise.

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