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Post by Didgee on Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am

A woman has been decapitated in a suspected terror attack in Nice, French police say.

Three people have died and several others are injured after a knife attack took place near the Notre Dame church.

French police have confirmed a man was shot dead in Avignon earlier on Thursday, after threatening passers-by with a weapon.

And a man was arrested in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia after stabbing and wounding a guard at the French consulate, Saudi state media reported.

Nice's mayor Christian Estrosi tweeted the attacker shouted "Allahu Akbar" several times.

"Everything suggests a terrorist attack," he added.


https://news.sky.com/story/two-dead-in-suspected-terror-attack-in-nice-12117574

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:40 pm





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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:28 pm

This is how terrorists are going to attack during the pandemic - since they don't have large groups to target, it'll be grisly murders of a few people at a time.

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Post by eddie on Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:21 pm

Dirty scum bastards.

And please let us remember it is only a few. This is NOT a Muslim attack, it’s a nutter attacking people.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:19 am




How long is it now that we have been hearing the "it's only a few" excuse...!?


What it is, is Islamists doing things the Islamist way!!!


Just like Isis were doing Islam "by the book" too...



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Post by Vintage on Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:54 am

It may be only a few who actually carry out the attacks but there's a heck of a lot of people who sympathise with the attacker and think they are doing right. The head of some Muslim Council condemned the attacks but also said we shouldn't upset Muslims. The Malaysian ex President said it was right for Muslims to kill French people as French people had killed so many other people including Muslims!
When will they accept people have different beliefs and standards and if they aren't in a Muslim country they have to accept the customs and standards of that country and remember that other people can be offended by Muslim customs and culture.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:02 pm

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How long is it now that we have been hearing the "it's only a few" excuse...!?

What it is, is Islamists doing things the Islamist way!!!

Just like Isis were doing Islam "by the book" too...

Tom, you can't change the truth just because it suits your politics. It's testament to how much damage a relatively few people can do. That's the point of terrorism: make up the lack of numerical support by increasing the severity of the atrocities.

The way to combat it is the mediate the differences between the two sides. Unfortunately, too many people (like you) want the fray to stay in the hot zone, not doing anything to minimize it, while turning up the heat.


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Post by Maddog on Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:57 pm

Former Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad launched into a shocking late-night Twitter tirade on Thursday when he said Muslims had the right "to kill millions of French people" as the publications of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad has led to deadly violence in France and protests across the Islamic world.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k99bq/as-france-mourns-malaysias-former-leader-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-millions-of-french-people


Yeah, these comments dont help anyone, including Muslims.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:19 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:

How long is it now that we have been hearing the "it's only a few" excuse...!?

What it is, is Islamists doing things the Islamist way!!!

Just like Isis were doing Islam "by the book" too...

Tom, you can't change the truth just because it suits your politics. It's testament to how much damage a relatively few people can do. That's the point of terrorism: make up the lack of numerical support by increasing the severity of the atrocities.

The way to combat it is the mediate the differences between the two sides. Unfortunately, too many people (like you) want the fray to stay in the hot zone, not doing anything to minimize it, while turning up the heat.



Bullshit!!!


Apologists for evil are the problem!



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Post by Vintage on Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:54 pm

An orthodox priest has been shot in Lyon and is currently fighting for his life. The attacker is still at large.

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Post by Maddog on Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:57 pm

Vintage wrote:An orthodox priest has been shot in Lyon and is currently fighting for his life. The attacker is still at large.

Over a damn cartoon.

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:41 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Tom, you can't change the truth just because it suits your politics.  It's testament to how much damage a relatively few people can do.  That's the point of terrorism: make up the lack of numerical support by increasing the severity of the atrocities.

The way to combat it is the mediate the differences between the two sides.  Unfortunately, too many people (like you) want the fray to stay in the hot zone, not doing anything to minimize it, while turning up the heat.

Bullshit!!!

Apologists for evil are the problem!

Well, that's a far cry from saying all Muslims are evil. We're making progress.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:45 pm

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Bullshit!!!

Apologists for evil are the problem!

Well, that's a far cry from saying all Muslims are evil.  We're making progress.

What about Muslims from eastern Europe?

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Post by Vintage on Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:03 pm

Isn't it about time that respect was a two way street, we are asked to understand and respect others cultures and religions but how much do Muslims understand and respect others' religions and views. They have great respect for the prophet yet can't seem to understand that other people have great respect for free speech, people have given their all to retain free and open discussions, even criticism for each others religions, ideologies and ideas.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:11 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


How long is it now that we have been hearing the "it's only a few" excuse...!?


What it is, is Islamists doing things the Islamist way!!!


Just like Isis were doing Islam "by the book" too...



It isn't an excuse, it's just the truth.

If Islam made people into murderers, every Muslim would be a murderer.

Since only a very small percentage of Muslims are murderers, it's not fair to blame the Islamic religion. No more fair than blaming any other belief system, or followers of any other belief system.

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Post by Vintage on Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:38 pm

A small percentage of Muslims only may be murderers but there are very many maybe even the majority who support what is done.
The Taliban and Isis did /are doing quite well as mass murderers , there's quite a large support for their aims if not their technique, although I doubt may who were forced to live under their regimes enjoyed the journey either, especially women.
The blame always lies elsewhere though, the women in the families of the rape gangs blamed the victims for how they dressed or behaved even though its a different culture.
The families of terrorists nearly always say what a lovely, kind, caring person their relative was before someone turned their heads.
Then there's the 'they aren't proper Muslims' excuse, yet check out the people protesting about an image not about someone life being taken.
'To take one life is like killing the world' - to paraphrase the Quoran, that only holds until you have an excuse ie Muslims have been attacked - doesn't even have to be a physical one and again its someone else's fault.
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Post by Maddog on Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:38 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


How long is it now that we have been hearing the "it's only a few" excuse...!?


What it is, is Islamists doing things the Islamist way!!!


Just like Isis were doing Islam "by the book" too...



It isn't an excuse, it's just the truth.

If Islam made people into murderers, every Muslim would be a murderer.

Since only a very small percentage of Muslims are murderers, it's not fair to blame the Islamic religion. No more fair than blaming any other belief system, or followers of any other belief system.

I dont know. Something can contribute to people acting a certain way, while not being the primary cause. Most muslims are good and decent people, but there is something about that religion that promotes violence. And that's been mentioned by other muslims.

While I don't promote being anti Muslim, I don't have a problem telling them to take a look in the mirror.

Basically every war being waged right now on this planet has Muslims on one or both sides.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:59 pm

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Bullshit!!!

Apologists for evil are the problem!

Well, that's a far cry from saying all Muslims are evil. We're making progress.


I've never said that "all Muslims are evil"...

What I've always said is that they are following something that is based on a violent psychopathic thug who robbed raped and murdered his way around the middle East with his gang of bandits!

And most of the ardent followers have done pretty much the same throughout history!


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:02 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Well, that's a far cry from saying all Muslims are evil.  We're making progress.

What about Muslims from eastern Europe?



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege



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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:05 pm

Vintage wrote:Isn't it about time that respect was a two way street, we are asked to understand and respect others cultures and religions but how much do Muslims understand and respect others' religions and views. They have great respect for the prophet yet can't seem to understand that other people have great respect for free speech, people have given their all to retain free and open discussions, even criticism for each others religions, ideologies and ideas.


There are over 100 Quranic verses urging believers to fight against non-believers.


Nothing to do with cartoons... This hostility has been going on for 1400 years!!!



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Post by Original Quill on Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:12 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Vintage wrote:Isn't it about time that respect was a two way street, we are asked to understand and respect others cultures and religions but how much do Muslims understand and respect others' religions and views. They have great respect for the prophet yet can't seem to understand that other people have great respect for free speech, people have given their all to retain free and open discussions, even criticism for each others religions, ideologies and ideas.

There are over 100 Quranic verses urging believers to fight against non-believers.

Nothing to do with cartoons... This hostility has been going on for 1400 years!!!

Are you sure?  You just admitted: “I've never said that "all Muslims are evil"...” So, I gather you are not talking about the Muslim population.  You are talking about “100 Quaranic verses urging believers to fight against non-believers.”  One response would be to say that guy is dead, and so let’s move on.  I can quote movie lines that are worse.

But you do appear to be saying that his words have an influence on the state of mind of the typical Muslim.  I would have to see evidence of that.  The occasional bad act is incidental, both with Muslims as with non-Muslims…you can’t generalize from specifics.

So where is the evidence that these “100 Quaranic verses urging believers to fight against non-believers” have any effect on the Muslim population?

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How can you, on one hand, admit that the Koran promotes violence and death be carried out by Muslims against non Muslims... but then question if this has any correlation/causality of Muslims carrying out widespread and sustained acts of violence and death against non Muslims over the last 1400 years...!!!???


How can you not see this...!!!???


Especially when there are countless examples whereby they themselves declare that they are doing what their guide book has instructed them to do...!!!???



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Post by Original Quill on Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How can you, on one hand, admit that the Koran promotes violence and death be carried out by Muslims against non Muslims... but then question if this has any correlation/causality of Muslims carrying out widespread and sustained acts of violence and death against non Muslims over the last 1400 years...!!!???

How can you not see this...!!!???

Especially when there are countless examples whereby they themselves declare that they are doing what their guide book has instructed them to do...!!!???

No, I don't buy it. When you speak of "countless examples" are you not speaking of specifics? You can't generalize from specifics. In order to generalize you have to have summary statistics, and those require at least 2 numbers (percent = 1 per/100).

I agree with the previous Tommy Monk: “I've never said that "all Muslims are evil"...” I think the examples that you speak of are aberrant incidents, as likely to be found in the non-Muslim population as in the Muslim population.

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